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waterballoon 22nd December 2010 03:36 AM

hmm I think Virgin Road - Love song - Last angel would make sense too. It's beautiful how there isn't a "right" answer here lol.

And omg yes Mannie is SO UNF like God sexy

pepper 22nd December 2010 04:01 AM

I think you're searching too deep in the meaning.
Just like me watching the Shutter Island. XD

Krushnic 22nd December 2010 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mellody (Post 2588307)
The ending for Virgin Road didn't match if continue to Love song, so I think the correct order is : Love song - Last angel - Virgin Road

Though we need some interpretation to understand the whole PV.

My thoughts are only like this :
In Love song PV, Ayu left Mannie, but we haven't find the reason that time. She's just running away and suddenly meets a robber crime. Maybe Ayu is so depressed and think that the bank robber is Mannie, failed to run and gets shot by the officer.

In Last angel PV, the scene where Ayu sing is just an illusion I think, because she already died. Also, Mannie is cheating on another woman, that might be the reason why Ayu leave him. The scene where Ayu running away from a stalker (Perhaps) represent Ayu feeling at that time, she wants to go anywhere but she can't, and it's troubling her. At the end of the PV, the REAL Mannie come in a dream, and they go together.

In Virgin Road PV, they dreaming having fun, rob a bank, and so on....

It's just my opinion anyway, feel free to discuss~

It makes perfect sense what you said...

lilchan 22nd December 2010 04:15 AM

I like the Virgin Road-Love Song-Last Angel combo better...
Virgin Road in the beginning just because the black and white and the scene just looks like something from the past(but then again, they have spifty looking helicopters)
then they run off to the present through rebirth...
it feels Mannie was always just in her fantasy, and never really got "reborn"
and in the end, they are reunited after death...

I just like Last Angel at the end just because the title seems to apply better.

I can take the other way too with: Love Song-Last Angel-Virgin Road
and Virgin Road is just their time in Heaven (or get kicked out of Heaven at the end)

ruixiong89 22nd December 2010 04:17 AM

The stories still don't seem to make sense though. I do agree that the order should be Love song-Last Angel-Virgin Road because the previous PVs set the setting for the next PV. I think it's all just dreams and illusions in the PV, or about living out your fantasies.

It's just annoying that there's no conclusion for the Ayu in the car (OR maybe that links to ourselves LOL!) or that relationship triangle. Even in Virgin Road, so they just escape the exploding car? It's all very confusing.

lilchan 22nd December 2010 04:20 AM

^ I think they either exploded the car themselves, or died and ran away happily to the afterlife...

Krushnic 22nd December 2010 04:32 AM

Perhaps Mannie died. Ayu was frightened, and started seeing him everywhere. That explains it has taken away the picture in Love song PV, when she will leave home ... She would not do that if he had betrayed him.

TITANIC 22nd December 2010 05:00 AM

I love the story line but out of my expectation. I thought that would be moreee dramatic than this

Max_ZZZ 22nd December 2010 05:47 AM

I think...

Virgin Road
so here is when they started, and everything was perfect and they were a team who escaped their enemies

Love song
- ok so i think this video is done in a surreal like world so it's sort of like in the perceived reality by ayu lololo if you guys know what i mean-
this is when everything started to fall apart
sort of like the lyrics, she can't imagine life without these things but then she has to anyways. she leaves his memory in real life, but his memory lingers
then she gets away from him but in her head she sees them both at a bank robbery continuing their life as the thieves they were in Virgin Road. but she knows it's not true, so she gets shot by her memory which she knows isn't true. so as she realizes what she wants to deny, she is 'dead', she IS dead in real life but not by a bullet but by her memory. LOL if you get it?? so in this world she is dead, but not really

Last Angel
so here we have everyone watching and staring
the 'spirit' of ayu is sort of like ayu, just like the lyrics reflect, coming to terms with what has happened with her and her lover
this whole video is sort of like an inception? if you know what i mean. so it's a different realm emotionally for her where she is trying to find her way back to her safe place but she can't escape his memory
i think the other girl symbolised what happened to him. he must have found someone else but she wishes it was her
but the ayu in the dark is trying to get away, and finally does at the end. him banging the window was sort of like saying 'i have left now, i can't get into your safe place'
so the emotionally dead ayu sees the man she married, when she was happy with him, and he takes her as she was and she moves on finally

THIS symbolises, not she is back with him, but that she has accepted that their happy memories were nice, and although it is no more, she cherishes what they had and no longer is plagued by her love for him anymore. LOL phew and that's all. i hope someone finds this insightful

pepper 22nd December 2010 05:58 AM

i dont really understand why you still think that mannie was alive in LS
It's 100% he's dead. Mirrors and water splashes are not for just "oh distract them!" :D

yamadashun 22nd December 2010 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by voltron (Post 2588426)
Hmmm...not really sure what to think, and then there's also Do It Again & Sweet Season, which both end very mysteriously.

Using just these three, I'm thinking maybe something like:
Virgin Road - Love Song - Last Angel

Virgin Road is their past together -- they fall in love, get married, rob a bank and get a lot of money.
Then we move to Love Song -- with all the money they stole, they have a nice place in the city, and live a glamorous life. We see Ayu leaving Mannie, but we're not sure why. She's running out, and gets caught in the midst of this robbery and dies. She's upset the whole time and starts thinking that the robbers are like she and Mannie, and in her mind pictures them to be one in the same.
Which brings us to Last Angel -- where we see the back story that Ayu left because Mannie cheated. They've been running for a long time, looking at their backs because the police have been trying to find them for robbing the bank. At the end, we realize that Ayu has died in the shooting, and she imagines Mannie in his suit coming to save her in her wedding dress. Her going to "heaven" is restoring their relationship to how she fondly remembered it, as in Virgin Road.


i think i will stick to this version as i like the looping concept.

but i enjoy reading other versions too:-)

SURREAL__RAINBOW 22nd December 2010 09:00 AM

so confusing!
I wish ayu or the director explained what this is all about in the making lol

ayu_fantasy 22nd December 2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2589219)
so confusing!
I wish ayu or the director explained what this is all about in the making lol

Yea, yea, I think the trilogy PV is very open to various interpretation.... HAHA, just like shutter island... LOL

The story is pretty confusing...

yamadashun 22nd December 2010 03:08 PM

and i agree that Mannie is dead, because there is no reflection in the mirror when he ran pass in Love song, and the water was not splattered when he stepped on it...

and that makes sense in the end of Last angel, so that he could go with ayu to the "Heaven"...

elvesword 22nd December 2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mmaibff (Post 2588537)
Thats what I though at first too, when I saw the short ver. of Love Song. You can find the post I made about here the song I compared the video to was Nickelback's Someday. Anyways on to my interpretations.

After seeing the full PV for Love Song it would fit to say that Virgin Road -> Love Song -> Last Angel.

Virgin Road is their past lives where they got married and robbed banks yet they made it out of it alive and happy. Were as in Love song they have been reborn and their present life is anything but happy endings. It fits into the belief that if you were a bad person in your pass life you will have to pay for it in your next (I guess an easy way to call it would be Karma).

I'll start with Last Angel before I explain love song because it holds the back story. Ayu is dead you see people gather around her while her spirit is in the background singing. The we start to see her memories, like how your life passes right before your eyes before you die, which gives us the back story or some of it.

We see flashbacks of her and Mannie together as well as Mannie and some other girl. Notice that in the memories her hair was curly and it isn't straight like in Love Song. This represents a different time.

My assumption is that Ayu found out Mannie was cheating on her so she left him. So she left and the person chasing her is Mannie trying to explain and get her back.

The reason I think it's Mannie who's following her is because although you can't see him the silhouette looks like Mannie such as the shadow at 3:24. You she the person's shadow has their hair tied up like Mannie does in most of their videos.

In the end Ayu is dead and we see Mannie dressing as he was in Virgin Road helping Ayu up, who is also wearing the Virgin Road outfit. We can assume they are going to heaven now because they paid for their crimes in their past lives in this one. Thats why they are dress in the Virgin Road attire because this was the happiest time for the both of them their past lives. In order for him to be a spirit as well means that he is dead which goes back of my theory of him already being dead in Love Song.

Love Song you see Ayu packing to leave and in the video I would assume that somehow she found out Mannie was dead.

Although we can see Mannie she looks right pass him. He doesn't have a reflection in most of the video except in the cab mirror (which is slightly confusing) until the driver adjust it and he disappear as if his reflection was never there to begin with. He also doesn't make any splashes in the puddles and doesn't show up in the glass of the shops.

At first I wasn't sure how the stalker scene ended but now after writing this and rereading my interpretations. I think that he caught up to her and manage to applogize to her and they got back together.

So after fighting and breaking up because he was cheating they got back together, but it still doesn't give them a happily ever after because after they get back together something happens and he dies.

From the trauma of finding out he's dead she starts hallucinating when she see the robbers as Mannie and Her, which can also represent their past lives as robbers and their crime. This is where she gets caught in the crossfire between the robbers and the police.

This all goes back to the karma thing, they committed crimes in their past and in their present they are face with various obstacles and strains on their relationship. In the end they can finally be happy and at peace after they died because now they can start over with a clean slate.

The only thing that doesn't fit is how did Mannie die?


After I read your interpretations, I finally understand the story line :thud That's why AYU's leaving the place cuz Mannie is died, but as you said, how did he die ? Thanks anyway, now I am going to look again as well~!!:love

Nessa 22nd December 2010 05:29 PM

To all you people who think Virgin Road came first: How do you explain their inexplicable escape RIGHT next to the blown up car? Why would they blow up the car if they weren't in it? The ending makes no sense as a prequel.

love in music 22nd December 2010 10:04 PM

well, I can pretty much understand everything if the order is Virgin Road-Love Song-Last Angel instead.. EXCEPT the part where she's running away in that silver dress from what I am 99% sure is Mannie. The only thing I could come up with that would make sense in the story was that they were trying to show that she was haunted by him after he died during the time she was still alive. really not sure though.

~*Mabushii*~ 22nd December 2010 10:27 PM

I think it's:

Love Song > Last Angel > Virgin Road.

Love Song

Ayu is sad because Mannie is dead. WHY he's dead? Why does that matter? He's just dead. I don't think they really wanted to explain that too much?
So she's running away from the house because it's too painful to be in.
There's the robbers, I think at one point her and Mannie must have done this. UNLESS: The Robbers part is JUST a memory of when they did that, nothing more?
At the end, she just passes out from heartbreak?
I don't believe she was shot. There was no blood or anything to indicate this..


Last Angel
Ayu is passed out now.
We get flashbacks of happy times with her and Mannie. The other girl probably is her mind wondering, what would have happened to him if it was someone else and not me??
The parts where she is wondering and lost is her soul as it's trapped. My guess is Ayu is dying from a broken heart/something similar.
She's being chased and it's hard to tell who is in the car, but I am about 98% sure the other guy IS Mannie really. She's scared, she's lost, she's alone, she doesn't know what to do because she lost him and 'lost herself'.
At the end, Mannie comes in wearing the tuxedo from Virgin road. I think it's a goof with the guy looks at him, but next they're all staring down at Ayu. Who BOOM, suddenly is wearing her Virgin Road wedding dress.
My guess is Mannie's soul/spirit came and got Ayu's soul/spirit so they could be together in the afterlife how they planned to be in real life.

Virgin Road
They're dead.
Thus the black and white.
They get married like they wanted to do, and go about robbing another bank like they did that one time. They're running off together, it's the same car even from the Last Angel video at first. Until they trade it for the one that I think is a Ranchero. ;)
I think them running off together at the end, after the car gets blown up is just them being connected, together, happy, and free. Their spirits are finally free of the last ties they had in the real world?

That's just my guess on it though. I really love these Pv's! ^_^

Luuuuund 22nd December 2010 11:58 PM

Wooah so many .. You guys are so smart, I think I understand now.
After reading everyone's I pieced them together like this.

Virgin Road – Last Angel - Love Song
Two bank robbers fall in love, get married, living life robbing banks. They both are very happy and it’s all good. Then they started living in the city and things were going great, but then Mannie cheated on her. So Ayu leaves him without notice and that’s why he is “stalking” or following her, to explain and get her to forgive him. But Ayu thinks she’s crazy and thinks that she is seeing him everywhere so when she gets inside the car she’s like “whatta hell am I doing, there’s no one there”

But then we see that guy in the car, someone who had a grudge with Ayu and wanted to hurt her. (or he knew that she had a lot of money and wanted to kidnap her, I don’t know :P ) He (car guy) attacks her and Mannie saves her and dies in the process and Ayu witness it all but can’t do anything. (since there’s a gap in the filming here we don’t know that but I think it makes her feel more guilty over his death this way. And also why she forgives him for cheating)

It’s to painful for her to stay in the city because she’s reminded of him everywhere, so she wants so flee somewhere and start a new life, we here see the ghost of Mannie trying to figure out if Ayu forgave him or not, or he still doesn’t realize that he’s dead and is still chasing her to explain.
She get’s out of the cab and on her way (to station maybe) she meets the robbers that reminds her and she’s lost in her memories and get’s shot. Ends up in a coma and see’s her life with him flashing in front of her, or her spirit does. But since she is feeling so much guilt that she didn’t forgave him and that he lost his life because of her she does not want to return to life and that’s when he shows up dressed as the man she loved and married and they both went to heaven guilt-free and happy as they once were..

how's that? :)

one thing though.. end of virgin road.. I'm thinking they got away, but some people are saying that both died in that car, and then my story doesn't work..

Isthan 23rd December 2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Luuuuund (Post 2589944)
Virgin Road – Last Angel - Love Song
Two bank robbers fall in love, get married, living life robbing banks. They both are very happy and it’s all good. Then they started living in the city and things were going great, but then Mannie cheated on her. So Ayu leaves him without notice and that’s why he is “stalking” or following her, to explain and get her to forgive him. But Ayu thinks she’s crazy and thinks that she is seeing him everywhere so when she gets inside the car she’s like “whatta hell am I doing, there’s no one there”

But then we see that guy in the car, someone who had a grudge with Ayu and wanted to hurt her. (or he knew that she had a lot of money and wanted to kidnap her, I don’t know :P ) He (car guy) attacks her and Mannie saves her and dies in the process and Ayu witness it all but can’t do anything. (since there’s a gap in the filming here we don’t know that but I think it makes her feel more guilty over his death this way. And also why she forgives him for cheating)

It’s to painful for her to stay in the city because she’s reminded of him everywhere, so she wants so flee somewhere and start a new life, we here see the ghost of Mannie trying to figure out if Ayu forgave him or not, or he still doesn’t realize that he’s dead and is still chasing her to explain.
She get’s out of the cab and on her way (to station maybe) she meets the robbers that reminds her and she’s lost in her memories and get’s shot. Ends up in a coma and see’s her life with him flashing in front of her, or her spirit does. But since she is feeling so much guilt that she didn’t forgave him and that he lost his life because of her she does not want to return to life and that’s when he shows up dressed as the man she loved and married and they both went to heaven guilt-free and happy as they once were...

I think exactly this way too :).

The reason why I think the order is Virgin Road - Love Song - Last angel, is because Virgin Road fits more as their past. It's mostly in black & white, they get married, their life is happy... And at the end, it turns into color and they get away from the police, leading eventually to the events of Love Song and Last angel. I think it'd be weird if it was all just a dream, a fantasy. I mean, they're both dead at the end of Last angel. So that's why I think this order is more fitting.


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