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YUKARI 30th May 2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by relmy (Post 2694779)
Whether or not she's an idol, she should just be... polite... you know? She can change the way idols are expected to act and managed, but that doesn't mean you have to lose your manners while you do it.

For example: Ayu.

yes, I'm totally agree with you :)

koumori 30th May 2011 12:51 PM

The scandal is four years old, let's forget about it already. :laugh She had a bad day, not a big deal.

i'm obviously a sawajiri fan :laugh sorry

panda87 30th May 2011 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by VRGRK (Post 2694086)
If you watch ^ "The Music Industy Exposed" ^ it makes you question a lot of things that you normally may have over looked.

In all honesty it doesn't suprise me that ayu finally admitted selling her soul for fame.

EDIT: I'm not going to bother editing my post about what I said about ayu, since I have known for quite a while that she was a sell out. I am however going to say that when I came across "THE MUSIC INDUSTRY EXPOSED" on youtube I wasn't intentionally looking for it, it came up in another video I was watching on the side bar ... out of curiosity I clicked it and found it to be quite intresting and informative. If I offend anyone with my opinion I'm not going to apologize, there isn't any need to since I would not expect anyone else to state an opinion and then turn around and apologize when someone else doesn't agree with it.

ok... if i say im a raingirl, that means i sold my soul? maybe i meant that i'm offering myself to the world b/c i want to give abundant love in a selfless manner, not necessarily selling myself to boost an industry. i understand ayu's public persona (as i don't know her personally to say i understand 'her') as someone who gives herself without regard to herself, independent of her lyrics, her work, her whereabouts, and someone who never seemed to want something in return in the form of a spotlight, in other words, fame. she came into this outside of her will, thus she used it to initiallyjust to save her a$$ (psychologically to be specific), and eventually found some compassion out of it as a gift she can offer to the world so they can live on like she did.

so... selling her soul? like, seriously? for someone who writes her own dayum words? who knows what's truly up for Ayumi Hamasaki in particular, but i think the most important thing is--let us decide for ourselves. don't choke your understandings down our throats.

JackieRos 30th May 2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by miskiq (Post 2694500)
Spoiler:

I always wanted to see this and never found the clip thank you.
Ahahaah she looked so bored and frustrated!!!
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Originally Posted by pommy48 (Post 2694503)
Lol but in a recent interview a few months back, she said that she regretted apologizing~

lmao nice

AyUta 30th May 2011 09:14 PM

everyone has bad days guys, you never know what is bothering a person. poor erika, gotta love her <3 thanks for the pic and the article!

rakeru 30th May 2011 09:47 PM

lol seeing that video, I don't think so badly of Erika anymore. That was absolutely nothing.

chu-lips 31st May 2011 04:55 AM

n as i hear erika like bullying her junior
lol

HilaryDuffFanboy 31st May 2011 06:07 AM

Erika just sounded as rebellious as Ayu admitted to being when she was in her late teens.

Seiferz 31st May 2011 09:32 AM

Sawajiri Erika really seem Arrogant in the blonde wig video~ it's reasonable for fan to lose hope on her if she keep behave like that.Who will love someone with RUDE attitude??

I love her in One Litre Of Tears.I even feel sad for her in that Movie.But she show a totally different side,which make me feel sick with her.

anyway ~ ayu and erika seem polite to each other.

AyuWorld 31st May 2011 12:08 PM

LOL other than that video posted by Miskiq this one is a bit shocking when i first watch it because at first i know her as Aya who is a beautiful,lovely and a tough girl :P



LOL wth with the rebelious and naughty attitude and chewing gum on the red carpet :laugh now i watch it back i found it funny :P

yeah she's a great actress somehow i wouldnt want to watch 1LoT if it not because of her, and maybe after this she can do a collaboration with Ayu :D

PS: she looked hot though xD

relmy 31st May 2011 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Koumori (Post 2694800)
The scandal is four years old, let's forget about it already. :laugh She had a bad day, not a big deal.

i'm obviously a sawajiri fan :laugh sorry

The scandal is four years old but it's still relevant to her career and image. She is still known for it and judged by it - hence why people discuss it. It's not anti-Erika to do so, it's just discussing a pivotal moment in her career and image. :/

koumori 31st May 2011 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by relmy (Post 2695510)
The scandal is four years old but it's still relevant to her career and image. She is still known for it and judged by it - hence why people discuss it. It's not anti-Erika to do so, it's just discussing a pivotal moment in her career and image. :/

Well in that case, let me link all the videos and articles of her improving her career, which in that case would be completely off-topic. I'm just tired of Erika-haters using this as a free bash session :rolleyes Like seriously, as an Erika fan I understand it was a "huge moment" etc, but in retropect it's only because the media went all crazy over it. In reality, not such a big deal. The amount of times Western artists and actresses have been rude and totally just said "Oh, bad day sorryyyy :laugh", and Erika has to deal with the backlash for years. I was stating it's incredibly unfair to a talented actress, not stating that it should never be discussed. It should of been forgotten, rightly so - I can name much bigger scandals tbh - but whatever, if people want to rehash old facts, let them.

Nukaru 31st May 2011 01:26 PM

@Rain-girl:
Ayumi mentioned that it's her fault it's raining outside, when a big event is right around the corner. She worte, she had the feeling it's always raining when she goes out to perform.

So it's not like Ayumi admitted she's sold her soul.. she's just making a joke she's made on twitter and TA before.

@Sawajiri Erika:
I really like her attitude. There are enough Idols smiling, laughing and playing a role everytime a camera flicks on. Erika is doing her thing, she's risking her carrer to change something and that, IMO, is something I respect.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 31st May 2011 01:27 PM

omg ERIKA looked like 2001 ayu in that video XD I love that look

maneayu 31st May 2011 03:10 PM

I like Erika Sawajiri a lot since 1 litre of tears, and her single "destination Nowhere" is one of my favorite songs.
She rocks, and I don't care about the past incident. We all have bad days like that.

Mari-chan 31st May 2011 03:29 PM

Oh.. I remember, when I told a japanese friend of mine, I was watching 1Litre of tears, she said, that a lot of Japanese don't like her, becaus of her behaviour.
Well.. such a behaviour like with the blond wig isn't really good. And isn't very positiv for her career.

oneheart 31st May 2011 05:15 PM

They NEED to do a song together! XD

relmy 1st June 2011 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Koumori (Post 2695518)


Well in that case, let me link all the videos and articles of her improving her career, which in that case would be completely off-topic. I'm just tired of Erika-haters using this as a free bash session :rolleyes Like seriously, as an Erika fan I understand it was a "huge moment" etc, but in retropect it's only because the media went all crazy over it. In reality, not such a big deal. The amount of times Western artists and actresses have been rude and totally just said "Oh, bad day sorryyyy :laugh", and Erika has to deal with the backlash for years. I was stating it's incredibly unfair to a talented actress, not stating that it should never be discussed. It should of been forgotten, rightly so - I can name much bigger scandals tbh - but whatever, if people want to rehash old facts, let them.

Spoilering as it's waaay off topic:

Spoiler:
Trust me, I am well aware of her efforts to improve her career - because she appears enough on news sites. Evidently, she isn't being very successful at reviving her reputation, as this thread proves.

If someone wanted to hate on Erika properly they'd talk about divorce, not the attitude she had in that interview. Those who don't follow celebrity news like you or I? This one incident is what she is known for. And isn't anything only an incident because of the media? I imagine plenty of horrible out of place or whatever things have been said with no backlash - as there was no media presence.

Most of the comments about Erika and the incident are because scandals are remembered over positive things you do. I'm indifferent to her personally, I've never seen her act and I've only seen news from both pro and anti Erika. I like what she's trying to do - change the industry, I just think she's doing it the wrong way. By meeting Ayu maybe she'll see how to both be independent and deal with backlash effectively so something like the interview doesn't happen again.

The video of her comments was posted because somebody didn't know what the incident with her was.

All I was trying to point out is that, for you, as an Erika fan, what appears as old news is in fact the ONLY thing a lot of people know about her. Fans, such as yourself, can correct them all you want but it's irrelevant when her own attempts aren't being successful to win back her favour.

In my opinion, it's going to be a 'big deal' until she becomes known for something else - releases a hit song, stars in something big. It's just the way things work. It's not fair, but hey, the media isn't fair..

I'm not trying to argue with you, I just... have a lot to say about her haha I'm sorry if I came off as confrontational, I don't intend to, it just happens because I'm quite forceful in my opinions.

OT rant over. This is why I shouldn't be allowed on the internet after midnight D:


On topic. I really love Erika's dress and hair. She looks really cute, but really elegant. Not too fond of Ayu's look here, she looks cute, but the outfit isn't as nice as Erika's. It's 'cause Erika has nicer hair here for me. I'm so biased towards hair.

jbrat2219 1st June 2011 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by oneheart (Post 2695639)
They NEED to do a song together! XD

Erika sings? o_O?

IYFreak 1st June 2011 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2696005)
Erika sings? o_O?

Totally! Lololol this is my fave song by her,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCrEE_auY_g


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