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Midori-chan 22nd July 2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by noisy_harmony (Post 2721573)
Hm there are also "anti-kpop" lovers of jpop :shrug

Of course there are, but I think that KPop-fans are more intense, when it comes to hating.
I can only speak about my personal experiences, though.

Their reasons for hating JPop are mostly:

*Japanese artists can't sing as well as Korean
*can't dance as well
*and are in general not as talented as Korean musicians

Korean musicians (or at least idol groups) seem to get a very strict - not to say cruel - training.
But there are so many Japanese singers, who are just as talented as Korean ones.


I just don't get all the hate thing. Why a person would want to waste their time and energy with hating somebody is beyond me!

noisy_harmony 22nd July 2011 02:18 PM

Hm I still don't agree. I become convinced by going through various sites and communities that both sides are insane. and both contain trolls

Midori-chan 22nd July 2011 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by noisy_harmony (Post 2721586)
Hm I still don't agree. I become convinced by going through various sites and communities that both sides are insane. and both contain trolls

Like I have said...I can only speak from personal experiences, but I'm sure that you're right.

I can remember that JPop-fans on tumblr stopped following my blog, because I started posting KPop-graphics! I mean what the...! :headache


But I try to stay as far away from drama as possible. I already have enough drama in my own life and really don't need to participate in stupid fights between JPop- and KPop-fans!

When I like a song then I like it and I couldn't care less from which country the singers are from! :yes

tetsuo69 22nd July 2011 02:45 PM

thats why i keep away.

y_nathz 22nd July 2011 03:45 PM

haters gonna hate anyway, wether it's jpop hate or kpop hate

George 22nd July 2011 04:00 PM

I think it has something to do with the Korean culture, I'm no expert in Korean culture and I only speak from what I've heard from a Korean friend. Koreans tend to be blunt about things which I think translate to being aggressive when someone criticize their idol and in the same way do horrible things to the idols they don't like just because they can.

I'm probably wrong but I doubt any knows the answer since it's very subjective.

FIRSTKLAS 22nd July 2011 04:57 PM

I'm sure sensationalism has something to do with it as well.

The KPop industry loves to (over)hype up news about themselves so I wouldn't be surprised if it goes both ways for both good news and bad news. It's a "any publicity is good publicity" mentality and it probably feeds a vicious cycle of fans eating up the hype and acting crazy and then media outlets reporting on that craziness.

If there was no hype, the KPop industry and fandoms probably wouldn't be that much different from JPop.

TofuBunny 22nd July 2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 2721556)
As for the crazy Western based kpop fans, I think for awhile they were living in the shadow of Jpop and Jpop fans, and so they built up this anti-Jpop thing and they were often times very defensive. Now that kpop is gaining popularity, they're moving into this whole "yeah we've always been better" "kpop ftw" "korea is the best" type of thing.

but that's just my own personal experience with them. korean based kpop fans, well, i know nothing about haha.

Really :shakehead ? I didn't want to bring this up but it's mostly Jpop fans who hate Kpop, not vice versa, all the Kpop fans I've met either like Jpop as well or simply have zero interest in it.

From what I've seen (here and in Arama), a lot of Jpop fans are bitter because Kpop is gaining a lot more attention than Jpop and because they think Jpop is oh-so-superior to Kpop.

I think that Kpop fandom's main negative point is the loud and obnoxious fans, while Jpop's negative point is the elitist ones :shrug

Rogue 22nd July 2011 06:12 PM

Okay, I didn't have a CLUE about the crazy fanboys and girls until I read this thread (yes sometimes I'm a very clueless girl) but the part about the girl that commited suicide just brought me to tears, I'm really shocked ._.
I can't understand people who act like that ^^;
Envy is sure a sickening thing ^^;

yamashita.san 22nd July 2011 06:51 PM

I think kpop fans are so crazy because the most of them are teenagers. Teens are always crazy...:laugh

koumori 22nd July 2011 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TofuBunny (Post 2721663)
From what I've seen (here and in Arama), a lot of Jpop fans are bitter because Kpop is gaining a lot more attention than Jpop and because they think Jpop is oh-so-superior to Kpop.

I think that Kpop fandom's main negative point is the loud and obnoxious fans, while Jpop's negative point is the elitist ones :shrug

Yes x 1000. Obsessive fans bring themselves their own downfall and bad reputation.

terra 23rd July 2011 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Midori-chan (Post 2721589)
Like I have said...I can only speak from personal experiences, but I'm sure that you're right.

I can remember that JPop-fans on tumblr stopped following my blog, because I started posting KPop-graphics! I mean what the...! :headache

But I try to stay as far away from drama as possible. I already have enough drama in my own life and really don't need to participate in stupid fights between JPop- and KPop-fans!

When I like a song then I like it and I couldn't care less from which country the singers are from! :yes

That's what I hate about 'Anti-Kpop' Jpop Fans :( especially in tumblr. I stay following ones even with JPop biases that I don't like. Idc really as long as we have something other than that to share.

And I agree, as long as it's enjoyable whenever they came from I don't care!

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Originally Posted by TofuBunny (Post 2721663)
Really :shakehead ? I didn't want to bring this up but it's mostly Jpop fans who hate Kpop, not vice versa, all the Kpop fans I've met either like Jpop as well or simply have zero interest in it.

From what I've seen (here and in Arama), a lot of Jpop fans are bitter because Kpop is gaining a lot more attention than Jpop and because they think Jpop is oh-so-superior to Kpop.

I think that Kpop fandom's main negative point is the loud and obnoxious fans, while Jpop's negative point is the elitist ones :shrug

Indeed. Both sides have negative sides. Not just one. Like Koumori agree on!

Besides, based on my experience KPop fans don't really care about what happen in JPop scenes so they kinda shut about it until it involves their idol.

happiholic★ 23rd July 2011 02:55 AM

This thread has opened my eyes. Holy, I didn't know that these kinds of things went on in the K-Pop fandom. I assumed it would be only as bad as the J-Pop fandom.

Lady~Deviance 23rd July 2011 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TofuBunny (Post 2721663)
I think that Kpop fandom's main negative point is the loud and obnoxious fans, while Jpop's negative point is the elitist ones :shrug

THIS. :yes

When it comes to K-pop, I usually just keep my opinions and thoughts to myself. To be honest I personally do not communicate with other K-pop fans because of their irrational and childish behavior. The way some of those fans carry themselves is just downright repulsive and maddening. Real talk. Besides, I'm mostly a fan of old school K-pop (1999-2002). ;)

AyUta 23rd July 2011 04:53 AM

This forum is all i need for my kpop needs :) and jpop of course.

tokyoxjapanxfan 23rd July 2011 05:52 AM

It's hard, in my opinion, to be loud and obnoxious and not be elitist, haha. But again, everyone has different experiences. The reason I didn't talk about Jpop fans was because this is a topic on Kpop fans...

Of course Jpop has crazy fans. Although the elitism I feel with Jpop fans is usually towards other Jpop singers. i.e. koda is better than ayu, utada is the best compared to anyone, etc etc.

Plus, the majority of my experience with kpop fans was from 2004-2006, when I listened to both jpop and kpop equally and regularly. kpop fans then and now are quite different, which I believe is due to the recent popularity spike with korean music.

but yes, both sides of the spectrum have crazy fans. no better no worse, just crazy.

chu-lips 23rd July 2011 06:34 AM

as far as i know...
those kpop fans who feels superior than other,,,,everythng made in korea is a masterpiece...
noone on the earth can sing and dance like their idol n idolize them like a god...
n when it comes to jpop...they bash jpop like jpop idol r talentless cant sing n can dance..
dont forget about the kpop media who blow up n exagerating all the news...

terra 23rd July 2011 08:48 AM

^
Calm down,
Everyone is sharing opinions calmly and we didn't tend on leaning on one side either. Should you put a salt on this?

I wonder if you're just love to troll on things or just don't know how to read the situations :shrug
Plus you're attitude is just the same as those loud obnoxious KPop fans, but you're on JPop that's all if you know what you've been doing.

happiholic★ 23rd July 2011 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chu-lips (Post 2721923)
as far as i know...
those kpop fans who feels superior than other,,,,everythng made in korea is a masterpiece...
noone on the earth can sing and dance like their idol n idolize them like a god...
n when it comes to jpop...they bash jpop like jpop idol r talentless cant sing n can dance..
dont forget about the kpop media who blow up n exagerating all the news...

There are people who treat J-Pop like its better than everything the way you describe K-Pop fans. I find that there are some who think that all of Japan is superior, won't listen to anything but J-Pop, eat with chopsticks, only watch anime etc. There are fans like that in every fandom, not just K-Pop.

CHE.R.RY 25th July 2011 03:15 AM

Honestly, I can't speak for everyone but I think that any person (or fan if you will) who is deeply passionate about something may come off as 'intense'. I mean, there are stans everywhere you look whether it be western or eastern or w/e kind of music. It's just how it is :shrug.

Me personally, I just try to ignore it when people put down my favorite music/artists because everyone is entitled to his/her opinion & whether he/she likes it or not has nothing to do with me.

Of course, there is a fine line between just pure opinion & bashing (where it just gets disrespectful), but even then what's the point of letting it get to you? Chances are the person bashing the singer/artist has no idea what he/she is talking about & aren't even worth your time of the day lol, so really...there's no point in letting every little negative thing get to you (I mean 'you' as in everyone in general btw).


So yeah, in a nutshell you're gonna see this kind of thing everywhere you look...it's not exclusive to k-pop fans by any means.


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