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tetsuo69 29th February 2004 09:58 PM

~_~ lets not think about this now ~_~.......

lets just Enjoy her music .. till she says she will no longer release..

paper_doll 29th February 2004 10:00 PM

Hmmm... I dunno. I mean she's still selling tons of copies of everything, and she'ed sell a lot even if it was crap. So, I dont think its the end.

But if it was, then what can we do?

fantaisie.sign 29th February 2004 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by AyuDearest1
When Britney was as flat as Ayu, she was able to act randy in a similar way. Ayu just doesn't have the tits but she can be as rauncy as she wants;)
I didn't see that post before, but I just have to pull out my http://membres.lycos.fr/cyberkat74/smileys/wtfdot.gif sign for such a bizarre statement.

There is a HUGE difference for why Christina and Britney turn to nudity than why Ayu turns to nudity. Britney's means for nudity is because she is an object. Since her vocal skills (or lack of them) don't go far, how else will she get attention? That's where the provocative dancing and little clothing comes in. Christina's image on the Stripped album also is an attention getter to a lesser degree, but helps to convey her message of being "stripped" from the image that the media gave her when her first album was released. If you listen to the lyrics of her "Stripped Pt. 1" intro then you'd understand that. Like what squirty said, Ayu does it for artistic purposes. It's still a way to attract attention (and I am. . . /RAINBOW does that well), but it's done in a completely different light.

Know the reasons behind why artists (in Britney's case I should say "performers") do certain things before jumping to judgements and conclusions.

Coelacanth 29th February 2004 11:21 PM

How did we get on the topic of Ayu's breasts? O_o;;
Well I like her breasts so... :P

Come to think of it, it is kind of strange...

Moments/Memories
A MUSEUM ~30th Single~
Clip Box

They all sound soooo... "farewell-ish" :shrug

AyuDearest1 29th February 2004 11:24 PM

Wow, I never knew Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, and Ayu all came here :rolleyes How can you say Ayu was doing it for art? Are you her? Have you ever listened to her? She knows she is a product, she says so herself. Was her swimsuit video for art? All the covers serve one purpose, and one purpose alone - to attract attention. Same thing with all the others. It's all done to attract attention. Ayu isn't exactly renowned for her symbolism or her artistic skills. This is the musical equivalent of analyzing harry potter. It's just a dumb thing to do. :P

tl1029530921 29th February 2004 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by Phantoma101
How did we get on the topic of Ayu's breasts? O_o;;
Well I like her breasts so... :P

Come to think of it, it is kind of strange...

Moments/Memories
A MUSEUM ~30th Single~
Clip Box

They all sound soooo... "farewell-ish" :shrug

and i think we're forgetting "Memorial Address"

Coelacanth 29th February 2004 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by tl1029530921
and i think we're forgetting "Memorial Address"
OMG... thats even worse...

I really hope she stays around... :cry

fantaisie.sign 29th February 2004 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by Phantoma101
Come to think of it, it is kind of strange...

Moments/Memories
A MUSEUM ~30th Single~
Clip Box

They all sound soooo... "farewell-ish" :shrug

I've always thought of it as Ayu remembering her past days both in her personal life and her artistic life. Perhaps it could be a double edged sword -- there's a "farewell-ish" and a "remember how life once was" tone to everything. So she might not necessarily be thinking about the end, but how she can use what happened in the past to help her create a brighter future for herself. There are a million possibilites to why the "farewell-ish"/"remember the past" tone exists, but those are a few that come to mind.

jerms 1st March 2004 12:43 AM

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Wow, I never knew Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, and Ayu all came here How can you say Ayu was doing it for art? Are you her?
geez. how can u say ayu was doing it for raunchiness? how can u say she's being provocative? are YOU her? do u even like her?

AyuDearest1 1st March 2004 02:57 AM

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Originally posted by jerms
geez. how can u say ayu was doing it for raunchiness? how can u say she's being provocative? are YOU her? do u even like her?
Everyone else says Britney and Christina do it for raunchiness so it swings both ways:thumbsup If an albino flat-chested girl is posing topless on the cover of an album, that is provocative:rolleyes I can go buy Maxim to see that. The recent hooker outfits she has worn recently are raunchy or she is losing it.

Also your location is tied to Ayu's bed. I don't know what kinky stuff you want Ayu to like to do with you:cool

Hamasaki-Kurumi 1st March 2004 03:06 AM

infinity.

kournikova 1st March 2004 09:05 AM

yeah i agree with jerms

Hamasaki-Kurumi 1st March 2004 11:10 AM

AyuDearest1: stop sexisme and back to the topic ok

LX DAI 1st March 2004 06:51 PM

Perhaps this is the end and perhaps it isn't. Perhaps she knows that her current music isn't as good as her old and can't seem to revert back and so is ending it.

Or maybe people look too deeply into symbolism to realize that maybe it isn't the end and she is making titles like these for a whole different reason.

Sometimes things like these happen and people will look so deeply into it that a blind idiot(no offense to anyone, I'm just making an example) could see the true meaning.

Like the Simpsons when lisa thought she was getting dumber everyday. She looked so hard into that little riddle that even Ralph could solve.

I just say, wait and see. Don't get too excited if it isn't the end and don't get too depressed if it is the end. One generation dies, another is born.

SheFliesHigher 1st March 2004 08:15 PM

This topic got pretty weird

Larisa-chan 1st March 2004 08:38 PM

::adds to the OTness of this topic:: I hate the Duty cover... it's the only CD cover that Ayu did which I thought was distasteful =/

as for her career.. it's possible she might be nearing the end -.- but she should go out with a bang! =\

jerms 1st March 2004 08:53 PM

Quote:

Perhaps this is the end and perhaps it isn't. Perhaps she knows that her current music isn't as good as her old and can't seem to revert back and so is ending it.

Or maybe people look too deeply into symbolism to realize that maybe it isn't the end and she is making titles like these for a whole different reason.

Sometimes things like these happen and people will look so deeply into it that a blind idiot(no offense to anyone, I'm just making an example) could see the true meaning.

Like the Simpsons when lisa thought she was getting dumber everyday. She looked so hard into that little riddle that even Ralph could solve.

I just say, wait and see. Don't get too excited if it isn't the end and don't get too depressed if it is the end. One generation dies, another is born.

ee..never thoguth i'd agree with ya lx, but BINGO! did i mention that people are looking into what's not there?


lol..this is pretty much exactly what i think. there's no inner story or correlation on her quitting or not. if her career ends, then so be it, but wait til theres u know..obvious evidence instead of these "hidden meanings". i doubt she's slowly putting out symbols, etc. lol..u just nailed my thoughts. thanks :thumbsup

Delirium-Zer0 2nd March 2004 02:55 AM

Okay, I'm going with A and I can END the speculation of ayu's career ending debate FOREVER right now (if enough people read this).

<b>AYUMI HAMASAKI'S CAREER IS NOT ENDING ANYTIME SOON. SHE IS STILL PROFITABLE. SHE'S NOT WALKING OUT OF HER SINGING CAREER WITHOUT ANNOUNCING IT FROM THE RAFTERS FOR ALL TO HEAR.</b>

As long as she makes them money, Avex sure as hell won't get rid of her.

As long as she feels she has an obligation to her fans, Ayu sure as hell won't quit.

There would be a formal announcement and a veritable media FIRESTORM if ayu was quitting anytime soon.

Sure, she may end up being replaced as the queen of Jpop, but Ayu basically replaced Namie Amuro as such, and oh look! Namie's making some of the best music she's ever made even now.

I'm sick of these "I think ayu's gonna stop singing soon" threads. You doomsayers (and you know who you are! Some of you are friends of mine but YOU NEED TO CUT THIS OUT) are doing nothing but depressing everyone.

If Ayu was quitting singing, we'd know!!!!

It would be different if she wasn't making any CMs anymore, Ayu Ready was canceled, she wasn't on any tv shows anymore, her sales declined down to 100,000 then 5,000 then less every single...

For heaven's sake people, she's doing fine and she's WAY too ambitious to just walk away from her success! And her success may be waning slightly, but yeah, she's been around awhile, it's to be expected. When her albums start debuting at #4 or 5 on the oricon that doesn't mean she's gonna quit! When they start debuting at #30 and never going higher than that, then maybe we might have cause for concern.

If she's replaced as queen of jpop, okay fine, but the fans will stick by her and she'll still sell alright.

Until you hear official word FROM AYU'S MOUTH that she's quitting, don't even bother to speculate, cuz it's NOT HAPPENING.

<b>And if I EVER see a thread like this again at AHS, I will TELL THE MODS TO SMACK YOU WITH FISH!!! >___<</b>

And I apologize for the attitude but my goodness it needed to be said >__<

In summary, stop speculating (based on something as dumb as song titles x_X if someone's first single was called "memories" I get the feeling that some of you would be rather confused) that ayu's career is going to end.

Coelacanth 2nd March 2004 03:00 AM

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Originally posted by Delirium-Zer0


As long as she makes them money, Avex sure as hell won't get rid of her.

As long as she feels she has an obligation to her fans, Ayu sure as hell won't quit.

There would be a formal announcement and a veritable media FIRESTORM if ayu was quitting anytime soon.

You're absoleutely right... now I feel better, Thanks! :laugh

Delirium-Zer0 2nd March 2004 03:01 AM

Glad I could help ^_^

Hopefully we won't be bombarded by depressing thoughts of ayu's career ending anymore x_X

Maybe one day she wont' be CRAZY popular, but I'm sure she'll still be there for the fans who still support her.


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