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truehappiness 30th June 2006 11:48 AM

Well, HONEY was said to have been dedicated to Tomoya.. as told to us by Ayu in an interview.

That was Dec 04 or something.. so it's been a year and a half and more since then.. :/

HiruNoKaze 30th June 2006 04:11 PM

Whoa serious? Do you remember what interview this was?

iphis 30th June 2006 05:16 PM

i really hope Ayu and tomoya are together
coz tomaya maybe one of the most handsome guys among japanese artists
and he loves music and writes songs himself
he and Ayu must have a lot in common
and besides rommance, they can talk about music

spacelion 30th June 2006 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustie
Well, I kinda have the feeling they're not together anymore. Hence the TOKIO guy (not Tomoya) pulling pranks at her and her not really acting in any special way when he's around.

If they were still together, I'm sure she would turn around to look at him at least once and they'd exchange smiles.

Besides, when was the last time they were seen together?... That photo with the car in the background, from a Chinese tabloid? That was quite some time ago, wasn't it?........ and nothing since then...

They were seen together in a picture in 2004, when Ayu was filming "INSPIRE." Then in late 2005, when B&D was filmed people were gossiping that Ayu was cheating on Tomoya with "Tim." :rolleyes (If they are still talking about Ayu "cheating" then they're probably together.)

Also recently a celebrity gossip magazine interviewed Tomoya's parents and they said they think they're still together.

Aga-chan 30th June 2006 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness
Well, HONEY was said to have been dedicated to Tomoya..

Yes, and it was also in "MY STORY" that she wrote thanks to her honey (= Nagase) in the booklet. And she wrote the same in the booklet of "(miss)understood", right? (I can't remember well and am too lazy to look it up. :P)

So I think we can assume that they are still a couple. For several reason...

1) The MUSIC STATION incident:

I don't know how the "arigatô gozaimasu" should be classified. If it was a mean joke or something else. Only they know. I just don't understand why they should look at each other during the broadcast. Being there is part of their job. (Even if it doesn't sound romantic.) Maybe it would distract/bother the other guests if they'd hang on one another. And I read once that it's not so common to show love-y feelings in public in Nihon. So maybe this could be another reason?

2) Her songs:

According to masa-san "CAROLS" talks about the re-start of their relationship. (I guess... :think) How their relationship came to a next level. Became more serious. I think the following part portrays it well:

The days we couldn't understand each other and parted
The days of tears, the days of smiling faces
Whatever may happen and
Whatever mood you may be in
I'll always accept you


Since then she hasn't written a song that I'd classify as an end-of-the-relationship-song. Maybe "is this LOVE?" could be seen as one, but it rather describes a triangle (watashi-anata-kanojo) and if it would reflect her experiences with Nagase I think she'd handle them differently. Especially since the relationship came into the level of being a relation not just for the near future, but also for the far. And ayu doesn't seem to get as emotinal while performing "is this LOVE?" than "HANABI", for example.

3) Her comment from the past:

I rather vaguely remember that at the time when rumours about the end of the relation between ayu and Nagase started to spread widely, she wrote a comment by herself that she'd tell her fans if it would happen. So... (I'm not too sure about it, though.)

PS. Sorry, for rambling and going off-topic... :(

micster 30th June 2006 06:14 PM

Im thinking she is almost certainly with him

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Originally Posted by (miss)understood booklet
Special Thanks [lots of people] my family & my honey, all of you who participated this album --- and you [Love Heart]


spacelion 30th June 2006 06:24 PM

[QUOTE=Aga-chan]

3) Her comment from the past:

I rather vaguely remember that at the time when rumours about the end of the relation between ayu and Nagase started to spread widely, she wrote a comment by herself that she'd tell her fans if it would happen. So... (I'm not too sure about it, though.)

PS. Sorry, for rambling and going off-topic... :([/QUOTE

I remember that as well. I'm pretty sure she'd tell her fans before the media got ahold of the story, since she is so close to her fans.

Aga-chan 30th June 2006 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by spacelion
I remember that as well. I'm pretty sure she'd tell her fans before the media got ahold of the story, since she is so close to her fans.

:yes And as we didn't hear anything from ayu about it I guess we can say that they are still a couple.

tokyoxjapanxfan 30th June 2006 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by norain
Wait, how does it only appear for one hour? And that's pretty freaky if it just collapsed, and since it started to sink, lol...but how? O_O

edit: plus also, that vid you uploaded, I don't see where I heard arigatou...:thud

edit2: nevermind, at the beginning, lol

it doesnt technically sink, the water just rises over it, the tide goes in so the water covers it until the tide goes back out, from what i heard from my friend ^^;;

AyUmIXx 30th June 2006 07:20 PM

japanese artists seem to be pretty good in having a totally secretive relationship..

both of them looked so cute in the airport..where tomoya carried ayu on the back..
ayu looked like a little kid..haha..that's so lovely..
(is that the picture when they filmed INSPIRE? tomoya went with Ayu to America to film a PV?) or tomoya went to the airport to fetch her?

anyway..did ayu really ever tell the media/interview clearly that she's having a relationship with tomoya?? (pls let me know..thanks)

SheFliesHigher 1st July 2006 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by immel
^As has been stated many times before, they are professionals.

So that means they can't acknowledge each other at all? If Ayu goes so far as to say in an interview that "Honey" was about Nagase, why is she so uptight about acknowledging him for like 3 seconds on a TV show? Or doing anything else which would suggest they are together?

And her writing "to my honey" in her CD booklets doesn't prove she is still with Nagase. That "honey" could be anyone.

Nevada 1st July 2006 03:38 AM

Woa, I didn't notice. But I'm glad that people are noting these things, it's always interesting to read about.

truehappiness 1st July 2006 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SheFliesHigher
So that means they can't acknowledge each other at all? If Ayu goes so far as to say in an interview that "Honey" was about Nagase, why is she so uptight about acknowledging him for like 3 seconds on a TV show? Or doing anything else which would suggest they are together?

And her writing "to my honey" in her CD booklets doesn't prove she is still with Nagase. That "honey" could be anyone.

Maybe the acknowledgement is off camera. All you see on MS really is the talk, performance.. and etc. XD

I wonder what'd happen if TRF and Namie were on the same show LOL LOL~

Aga-chan 1st July 2006 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SheFliesHigher
So that means they can't acknowledge each other at all? If Ayu goes so far as to say in an interview that "Honey" was about Nagase, why is she so uptight about acknowledging him for like 3 seconds on a TV show? Or doing anything else which would suggest they are together?

And her writing "to my honey" in her CD booklets doesn't prove she is still with Nagase. That "honey" could be anyone.

Maybe ayu is shy? Who knows?
Does anyone know how other celebrity couples behave on such kind of TV shows?

"HONEY" was written about Nagase, so it would be natural to think that the "to my honey" in the booklet of "MY STORY" refers to him. But what about the booklet of "(miss)understood"? I actually don't think that she'd refer to someone else by the same words. Especially since she wrote a song with that title.
I mean, imagine one calls his or her long-time love "star". Would he or she call their next love "star" aswell? I highly doubt so (though it's possible, of course). Because for the person it's not just a word or a nickname, but it includes experiences, memories etc.

truehappiness 1st July 2006 10:38 AM

(miss)understood's booklet does indeed have the 'my HONEY' dedication.
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5301/mu137sg.jpg

I don't think many celebrities are hooked up in Japan.. :/

Dustie 1st July 2006 11:10 AM

Even if they broke up, she could still be including thankies to her honey. It would actually look kinda weird if she suddenly stopped writing so.


It seems we have no other choice but to kidnap Nagase and get the first hand information xD

Aga-chan 1st July 2006 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dustie
Even if they broke up, she could still be including thankies to her honey. It would actually look kinda weird if she suddenly stopped writing so.

ayu wrote thanks to her friend Natsuki from "A Song for XX" to "Duty", so their friendship probably ended around that time. So we'll have to wait for the next album. If she still writes "to my honey" there.

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Originally Posted by Dustie
It seems we have no other choice but to kidnap Nagase and get the first hand information xD

lol Zróbmy to~! XDDD

kirika 1st July 2006 12:12 PM

Hahah, yeah , but I think it wouldn't be easy thing to do ;)

freedreamer 1st July 2006 03:19 PM

her face kinda changed a bit when she looked to that side...

then the SOS wan was so funny and HS was beside her!!...wad did HS say before aYU sing?

Manross 2nd July 2006 02:33 PM

LOL its funny. i wouldnt have notice it. thanks ! hahaha


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