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andre2907 15th October 2006 09:47 PM

I'm very sure it isn't that's just a excuse.

Did anyone saw the press conference? He didn't know what language he was going to study and he didn't know if he was going to do the homestay program. Well, basically, he didn't knew anything about "studying abroad".

And then when this morning TV show reporter asked: "there are this very strong rumor that you're going out of the group because you're marrying a mixed-race girl. That's the truth, right?" and he got VERY nervous (even more than during the rest of the press) and he said: "that's my personal life, no comments about that".

Weird.

Lumix 15th October 2006 11:39 PM

I think that he can't say much about his studying program..

And then when this morning TV show reporter asked: "there are this very strong rumor that you're going out of the group because you're marrying a mixed-race girl. That's the truth, right?" and he got VERY nervous (even more than during the rest of the press) and he said: "that's my personal life, no comments about that".

Woah? Do you have youtube link?

truehappiness 15th October 2006 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre2907 (Post 911666)
I'm very sure it isn't that's just a excuse.

Did anyone saw the press conference? He didn't know what language he was going to study and he didn't know if he was going to do the homestay program. Well, basically, he didn't knew anything about "studying abroad".

And then when this morning TV show reporter asked: "there are this very strong rumor that you're going out of the group because you're marrying a mixed-race girl. That's the truth, right?" and he got VERY nervous (even more than during the rest of the press) and he said: "that's my personal life, no comments about that".

Weird.

Do you live in Japan? :|

waltz#2 16th October 2006 04:20 AM

I'm not sure what press conference andre2907 means, but this is from one as well:

Reporter: "When did you decide you wanted to go on an exchange?"
Akanishi: "I've thought about this since I was 17 or 18."
Reporter: "What will you be doing?"
Akanishi: "I'm interested in linguistics, not only in English, but also in the language of various other countries. I can't say yet."
Reporter: "There's no connection to some trouble with a relationship?"
Akanishi: "No, nothing like that."

the rest can be found here: http://community.livejournal.com/kat...18.html#cutid1

hallelujah_united 16th October 2006 06:54 AM

Now that does seem very strange. After all, you wouldn't leave a group that sells CDs by the millions and gets all sorts of HUGE endorsement deals unless you were absolutely sure of your plans afterwards would you?

It definitely feels more than a little fishy now.

andre2907 16th October 2006 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by waltz#2 (Post 912023)
I'm not sure what press conference andre2907 means, but this is from one as well:

I don't know if it's that one, but maybe it isn't, because the press conference I'm talking about, according to my friend, was only aired two times, both in Fuji TV: yesterday on Sutamen and today morning Tokudane.

truehappiness 16th October 2006 10:16 AM

English-speaking manfan living in Japan 'Santos' has this to say:
Quote:

U15 Love Killed KAT-TUN?
The keyword of first half of 2006 was 'kaisan', but it seems that of the later half will become 'kyuushi'(discontinue). According to some sources, Akanishi Jin of KAT-TUN , an idol group from the human beings which I'm not interested in at all, will stop all his activities in this year. And the reason why he has to take a leave is not announced yet. But his picture is not in the jacket of their third single, and it seems he did not attend to the recording of the song. In the worst scenario, he won't return to the group.

Well, some might notice, but the situation is very similar to the case of Yukari's AAA. Without detailed information, Akanishi suddenly stopped his activity, and now is about to leave his group without saying anything to fans. Or, did he and Yukari run away together??

At this point, the most plausible reason of his leave is that he was fed up with being scolded by his manager for his private, and lost his motivation, and refired from the office by himself.

In fact, the interview held in last January he declared his longing for freedom, and a trip to Spain. So, he might have chosen to go to a journey rather than to be a slave of the president of his agency, Johnny-san.

Meanwhile, one rumor says that this leave is due to his 'inappropriate relationship with a junior high school girl. And the girl was... Chinami of Berryz Kobo!!! In fact, Berryz Kobo and KAT-TUN appeared in the same TV show in last August, and they exchanged phone numbers after the show.

Although Akanishi is 22 years old, to go out with Chinami, 14 years old, is still against Japanese law. So, Johny's might cut him before this sensational scandal was covered by some paparazzi magazines. In fact, speaking of Johny's, recently, a lot of young people were fired after this kind of delinquency scandals. There was a group named NEWS before KAT-TUN, but ironically, the group had to after two of members were suspended for this kind of scandals, this group had to terminate its activity as a group.

And Speaking of KAT-TUN, another popular member of this group, Kamenashi was covered a scandal with a 40-year-old woman in last spiring. If this rumor is true, they cover from 14 to 40.... “KAT-TUN” is originally named after the initials of members, but now “A” is going to move. “KTTUN” sounds weired, so I'd like to recommend “Attack All Around” as a new name of this group instead.

Anyway, no matter what made Akanishi suspended, just like Yukari's case, we'd better think that this boy won't return to this group so easily. Mysterious leave is now going to become a new trend of idol industry for both sexes.

But I don't think this way - to give 3 months to calm down fans before he or she actually is cut - is the best solution to solve a problem of this kind of situation. Far from it, just like Chinami's story, in this Internet Era, it creates unnecessary buzz. In other words', Don't mess up fans!!

[Updated]
Johny's updated its official site, and explained the details of Akanishi's problem. According to it, "He studies abroad for 6 months", and it was "his dream." But if his study goes well, his stay might be prolonged. And for his study's sake, they won't announce which country he actually go to.


... Why only 6 months? And why can it be 'prolonged?' Still sounds like just an excuse for the hidden truth...

[Updated]
(Wounderful Picture snatched from 2ch)

Akanishi met the press at his office tonight.
http://www.nikkansports.com/entertai...13-103406.html
According to this article, he said "To study abroad" was his dream which he kept in his mind since he was 16 or 17 years old. And he is very inerested in liguistics, and interested in many languages. But he can not say where and which language he studies. And he denied that it was not due to scandals with woman.
http://santoslove.exblog.jp/

WOW. That's CREEPY.

Lumix 16th October 2006 02:38 PM

I don't think it's fishy. I believe Jin. I think you have to know him to say if it's fishy or not.. he has a special character - he always does what he wants. Everyone says that about him and he even sings it in his song. If he feels like studying, he'll do it.
About selling milions of CDs.. Jin said he doesn't like showbiz. He's there only because of his friends and singing.

Hazuki 16th October 2006 03:46 PM

Same thing here. I doubt there's anything fishy in this.. There might be a controversy in the end, but, Jin's still young, he has time to study.

andre2907 19th October 2006 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre2907 (Post 911666)
I'm very sure it isn't that's just a excuse.

Did anyone saw the press conference? He didn't know what language he was going to study and he didn't know if he was going to do the homestay program. Well, basically, he didn't knew anything about "studying abroad".

And then when this morning TV show reporter asked: "there are this very strong rumor that you're going out of the group because you're marrying a mixed-race girl. That's the truth, right?" and he got VERY nervous (even more than during the rest of the press) and he said: "that's my personal life, no comments about that".

Weird.

Lol. He really is dating a nippo-brazilian called Rina.

The original news is from Uwasa (uwasa.up.md, in Portuguese):

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f60/maik2006/aka2.jpg
The news come from the "geinoukai" part of the news shows Tokudane.

The mixed race girl he is dating (the nippo-brazilian) is called Rita:
http://www4.airnet.ne.jp/tsuyoshi/mt...mages/rina.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f60/maik2006/aka4.jpg

Rina is a model and speak fluent japanese and portuguese. She spent 1/3 of her life in Japan and 2/3 in Brasil. Akanishi was already tired of his aidoru life and the love/hate relationship with the fans because they're are responsable to make the artist popular and respected at the same time they can make his life a living hell. And his serious relationship with Rina, who is 4 years older, made him realize the world is bigger than Japan.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f60/maik2006/aka3.jpg
He was tired of his life being controlled by Johnny's, paparazzi and insane fans who always wants to know who he is dating, if he is drinking or smoking, what he bought...

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f60/maik2006/aka5.jpg
Him nervous on the press conference.
__

And the japanese press initially believed she was a mixed-race girl, but now they are very relieved to know she is actually a brazilian-born-japanese (yeah, they don't like mixed-race people).

And all the things he said (about the fans, he realizing the world is bigger than Japan) is supposedly from his management.

immel 19th October 2006 10:30 PM

So much tabloids.

Do you actually know what he said in the press conference, or do you base your 'knowledge' about what his thoughts and opinions are on the articles on uwasa?

The girls is really cute.

Hazuki 19th October 2006 10:49 PM

I have those interviews, and I will re-upload them (this weekend) for anyone who wants them, but I do not remember anything about Rina in there.

They were only asking him things like: "Where are you going?" "What language will you study?" and such.

I don't see what the problem is if Jin really would want to go marry that girl. After all, it surely is his studies that are causing him to leave. He did, after all, want to go be an exchange student since he was 18 or so.

immel 19th October 2006 10:52 PM

The tabloids seem to draw their 'conclusions', like always.

Pretty obvious things they state, I have read those exact same words about other artists way too many times to even remotely take anything like those tabloids seriously.

He's leaving, he might be dating a girl, if he's leaving there's obviously something that isn't the way he wants it. Fans are unhappy and are willing to buy/read anything that has to do about him. The juicier, the more it'll sell. End of story?

andre2907 19th October 2006 10:53 PM

^^ He didn't mentioned Rina on any press conference, obviously. And in Japan, the media already believe this is "confirmed news" and if it's really true, there's no exchange program, sorry.

(The original press conference was aired on Fuji TV shows like Tokudane and the guy who asked about the mixed race girl was actually from the Tokudane show. And Tokudane is considered a seriously gossip show, like with "reponsable" journalism. Of course I'm not in Japan, so I'm not sure if that's the fact. And Immel, are you sure you are used to the japanese press?).

immel 19th October 2006 10:56 PM

Nothing to be sorry for, I couldn't care less about Akanishi :D. Although... Lucy... I care for her, and she might be sad :/.

Edited my post slightly.

Also, please understand I have nothing against you and all your information, what I'm against is the tabloids trying to sell their stories the way they do ... and so on. Nothing I say is aimed towards you.

andre2907 19th October 2006 10:58 PM

I know, I'm just saying that because people sometimes don't know how the japanese media works. It's VERY different from the way the media from our side of the world work.

And anyway, I guess you're taking your own conclusion. No tabloid article was posted, so we don't even know what was the tabloid treatement for the story.

And anyway, Hazuki, don't worry. If that's really true, I guess he was really unhappy being an idol. I mean, with all the insane fans who don't let him date? Or with the paparazzi and Johnny's? It must be really hard. He wants freedom and he will be happier like that.

immel 19th October 2006 11:02 PM

I thought that was where you got the information from, sort of, because I heard uwasa to be stated to be a tabloid page earlier, am I wrong?

No, no entire article was posted, but the way your post was written sounds like it's taken again from tabloid 'conclusions'.

I don't know though, you already explained the way Japanese media works pretty well in that other thread, if you remember, quite some time ago. I still always seriously doubt anything like this, anyway. And the reason it's brought up is because it sells, for a short while, then, in the long run, no one will care and it'll settle.

I also agree on the last part of your post, aimed at Hazuki. Don't worry :).

andre2907 19th October 2006 11:03 PM

It is a website with news from the asian/japanese showbusiness. And the news piece wasn't taken from a tabloid but it was a report from what was said on the Tokudane, a morning variety/news show. The show was aired yesterday on Japan. Of course nothing is confirmed yet, but the japanese media is going crazy.

Lumix 19th October 2006 11:06 PM

:thud

He kills me, really. :cry

But if he's happy without singing and happy with Rina.. he should keep it like that and never come back.

evechoco 20th October 2006 07:23 AM

so sad, anyway good luck with whatever he wants to do


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