maybe...Andy Lau, Edison Chen, TWINS, (BONUS Jacky Chan) and all these other singers are gonna go to Ayu's HK/Shanghai concert! :cool

It's good that other singers respect Ayu enough to go to her concert. I think it's interesting that Ayu admires Madonna and she went to her conert, while Jolin admires Ayu and so she went to Ayu's concert. It's like the circle of life, diva style.

but the numbers of artists who went to ayu's concert were a few...

Everyone saying that Ayu and Jolin are human.. should steps back from the people they are flaming.. you're being JUST as BAD.. because the people writing the flaming posts that YOU are FLAMING are HUMAN as well.
I mean.. seriously..
They hate, then you hate then for it.. you are being just as bad as they were in the first place.. Sure Ayu and Jolin are human.. but so are the people behind the posts.. both the original flamers and the ones flaming them! :P

and FWIW, It's cool that Jolin went to the concert, I don't care either way. She came, she saw, she left.. just like ANYONE ELSE in Taiwan that went.. *shrugs* I'm jealous of ANYONE who gets to go to an Ayu concert.. "copy cat" star or just NORMAL person

Let us put our swords back into their sheaths, comrades.

LOL Jolin is not an Ayu copy cat what has she done that is so Ayuish.J-Game and Dancing Diva are so not ayuish i love those two albums!!

I didn't notice any hating on other posters...

their songs are not in the same genre, but their styles are almost the same..

Some ppl think its their music that ppl are comparing to but its not. Their music is not alike at all..totally different. Its the style, appearance, everything else thats quite influenced by mainly ayu and other jpop and western artists.

I could say something to the effects of "the theif always returns to the scene of the crime"...but I don't really know Jolin enough to say that. If she does copy Ayu, that's fine as long as she's woman enough to admit it. If not, then she's not very honest with herself or her fans for that matter.

A year ago I watched the MV for "Dancing Diva" by Jolin and I didn't see any simularities between her and Ayu in it. I saw more J.Lo and Beyonce in it than Ayu. Maybe she does copy Ayu, i wouldn't know; only the fans of both Jolin and Ayu would know that for sure. One thing I do know for sure though, Ayumi Hamasaki is a trendsetter. She wears the styles that make our wallets seem like barren deserts when we try to imitate her. Whether we are rich and famous (like Jolin) and/or broke (like me..lol) if we like Ayu's style we will try to imitate it because we like it. Of course there are those who want to BE Ayu...but that's a another story that I DON'T think applies to Miss. Tsai.

HAHHAAHA.

Yeah anyone, I sort of expected her to go. Good for her to see what's the real stuff. :innocent Anyway she did copy Ayumi, so cut the 'please grow up' crap. How is stating the fact not growing up?

Ayumi copied madonna too. I don't see anything wrong with saying someone's copying others. It happens all the time.

That's kind of great!

that's more like gossip than news...anyway, i am glad that ayu's concert has celebrity audience.

jolin is a ayumi fan.. :D

Haha I noticed Jolin's concert entrance was on a swing, kinda similar to Ayu's (Ayu's concert entrance for HK was on a swing). I'm happy that Ayu does influence other singers, it shows Ayu's real creative in her designs. Yeah Ayu does take reference from Madonna, for eg her foxtail for Evolution. Copying or being similar is unavoidable, Ayu does mix in some of her style in stuff she takes reference from so it becomes unique.

When we do design, we also study alot of reference materials but have to modify and mix in a little creativity of our own. Just dun do whole-sale copying, keep some room for ur own creativity.

i don't understand why jolin wants to hide the fake that she's a fan of ayu..

I actually think that Madonna "copies" from Ayu. The giant cross from her 2006 Confessions Tour? I remember seeing a cross in Ayu's Countdown 2005 as well.

I also remember seeing Ayu's foxtail as early as Surreal (she performed with a white foxtail on NHK's Popjam). That would be in 2000. I saw Madonna's foxtail on her 2001 Drowned World Tour. There might be an earlier instance, though... Of course, I think some unknown girl in Harajuku wore the foxtail first :)

Madonna is a VERY clever artist. She gets a lot of her ideas from sources that are underground and not mainstream, therefore not that well-known, so that she always seems "fresh" and "original". So everyone please don't use the argument of her not knowing who Ayu is. Remember Madonna's Hollywood music video? And the unknown European fashion photographer whose work it copied? I wouldn't be suprised if she knew who Ayu was.

Anyway, the idea of "copying" expressed in this thread seems too oversimplified for my taste. Ayu_Jayson said it best: "Ayu does mix in some of her style in stuff she takes reference from so it becomes unique". Same goes for Madonna, whose influences are from around the world. Same for John Galliano. Same for The Beatles. All these great pop artists.

Originality, whatever that means, doesn't exist in the world anyway. Everything in this world, its different cultures, ideas, and people, will always have things in common, will always find in each other the most suprising similarities, and that's what makes life so beautiful.

I'm sure Madonna's heard of Ayumi. She's been to Japan alot.

now I rather someone copy ayu than someone bad mouth her...lol

i really want to see what Jolin's next concert is going to be like.

oh true, doesnt Madonna's daughter live in Japan or something? i think i heard someone said that....

but it would be cool if madonna got the foxtail idea from Ayu lol