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Melrose 30th March 2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fanmail (Post 1394766)
Did you not read the Deli quote from zoomzoom? Deli is like... Queen of all things Ayu. :love

I did but it still doesn't sound to me like Ayu, nor do I hear "lose". O_o;

Edit: Oh wait, "lose" is the second time.. Yep.

Yarumi 31st March 2008 12:06 AM

I guess I'm crazy because even though it's not nasal like Ayu... it still sounds like Ayu to me... I guess because when poeple talk in a language that isn't their native language, their voice does change... For all the English speakers... if you record your voice speaking English then record it speaking Japanese the Japanese voice does sound more nasal because that language tends to produce sounds more from the nose than the throat. So I always thought because Ayu was speaking English that her voice changed to try and mimic native speakers.

But the credits do have someone credited... but they suredid find someone tha sounded like Ayu

zoomzoom 31st March 2008 12:54 AM

It probably isn't ayu saying it, but to say THERE'S NO WAY IT'S AYU is dumb. Computer technology can tweak things out of recognition.

Rebirthia 2nd April 2008 12:43 PM

and there are other lines that do not appear in Ladies Night Original remix, I think...

everlastingRAINBOW 2nd April 2008 05:01 PM

I think Ayu is definitely say the lines. It sounds like Ayu with a voice modifier. The English doesn't sound perfect either, so who else would it be? :shrug

taskinillusion 2nd April 2008 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xilirationisfun (Post 1399217)
I think Ayu is definitely say the lines. It sounds like Ayu with a voice modifier. The English doesn't sound perfect either, so who else would it be? :shrug

I always thought it was Ayu through a distorter too. :/

tasking 3rd April 2008 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by evolusean (Post 1395420)
It's absolutely not Ayu. The voice is clearly from a completely different set of vocal chords. I'm certain it is the "Jusme" person who is credited as the Vocoder voice, if for no other reason than the fact that there is only 1 vocoded voice in the track.

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Originally Posted by Yarumi (Post 1395485)
But the credits do have someone credited... but they suredid find someone tha sounded like Ayu

The following explanation is by Deli. And I quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deli
First off, here are the credits for Ladies Night:

Programming & Guitar: CMJK
B.G.Vocal: Gloria Ryann, Chantale Cerisier, Vickie Natale
Vocoder Voice: jusme
Mixed by Koji Morimoto

The rap is not "jusme" on vocoder, like some people think. That's simply not what a vocoder sounds like. A vocoder is FAR more robotic. Forget "it doesn't sound like ayu", a vocoder is almost completely unrecognizable as even being HUMAN. A vocoder is what's heard at the beginning of "Intergalactic" by the Beastie Boys (the robot voice saying "Intergalactic Planetary, Planetary, Intergalactic" if you're familiar), and in "Mr. Roboto" by Styx.

Here's a sound clip showing what exactly "jusme" did for this song. In the first part of the clip, the vocoder voice is the voice-ish sounding synthy/robot-like sound that accompany's ayu's rap, not the rap itself. In the second part, it takes a more background position during ayu's "Ah-ha" parts.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ib88s0

THAT is vocoder. Ayu's voice is distorted during the rap, yes, but that's distortion (maybe it's a phone filter... kinda sounds like one), not a vocoder.

There are various reasons why I'm certain it's ayu.

It's definitely not just a sample of Jade's original rap, you can plainly hear when they're played back to back that they're totally different performances by two totally different people.

Also, at low qualities and with distortion, ayu doesn't sound like ayu... I'm one of many that was VERY sure that it wasn't ayu singing "Moments" in the Visee CM back when all we had was the streaming version with low quality. So ayu with distortion would sound not much like ayu. Compare this rap to the one in Fly high, however, it sounds like the same person but a few years older.

Plus, the only BG Vocalists were westerners with (as we could hear in songs like Bold & Delicious and Pride) much deeper voices than ayu has, so that rules any of them out.

So if it's not them, and it's not jusme, and it's not jade, by process of elimination it has to be ayu. I agree the voice doesn't QUITE sound like her, but like zoomzoom said, to say that there's NO WAY it's ayu is very very incorrect, and it sounds more like her than the only other 4 possibilities (being Jade, Gloria, Chantale, and Vickie).


SheFliesHigher 7th April 2008 12:56 AM

Deli can do all the experiments she wants; the fact is Ayu does not sing that part during her live concert performance. And it's not like she was doing something else to distract her from being able to sing it....she was just clapping her hands to the beat and so on.

taskinillusion 7th April 2008 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SheFliesHigher (Post 1406514)
Deli can do all the experiments she wants; the fact is Ayu does not sing that part during her live concert performance. And it's not like she was doing something else to distract her from being able to sing it....she was just clapping her hands to the beat and so on.

Yeah, but there's a LOT of backing vocals that she doesn't sing like that...

SheFliesHigher 7th April 2008 11:53 PM

^ But it's really not a backing vocal at all when it first comes into the song....there's no other singing going on. It just doesn't make sense why she wouldn't sing it live. :shrug:

DOLCE 8th April 2008 12:35 AM

When I hear the version on GOLD, I hear something a bit different compared to the regular version @_@

(m)u version
Asian wisdom
Gotta replace him (DJ!)
hate him, then even so
you dont ever (need too)
think you can ???

GOLD verison
ditch him, lose him
gotta replace him (danger)
hate him, then even so
you dont ever( need too)
think you got thinner
:no

yaten 8th April 2008 01:21 AM

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4622/ia3yp.jpg

zoomzoom 8th April 2008 02:51 AM

^ You could've found a better place on here to use that one....


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