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ストロボ・EdGE 28th November 2008 08:56 PM

I don't see why everyone's so surprised about Ootsuka Ai not being on the list. Her past three singles have bombed, she's lost her signature style, and no one's going to buy LOVE LETTER. I was talking to another Ai fan that didn't even know/heard of Rocket Sneaker and Kurage, Nagareboshi. She used to be really popular...

Nevertheless, I love Ai chin AND I love the past three singles and I'm so going to buy LOVE LETTER, but what I mean is that she's really lost popularity. She doesn't want to be "cute" anymore...

truehappiness 28th November 2008 09:30 PM

The thing about this list is that it's chosen by Oricon Style subscribers, who all are very much Mr. Children / aiko / Hikki fans. This is a very biased list, as it only samples like 20,000 people who all generally have the same music interests.

lfe. 28th November 2008 10:24 PM

^ Yeah I too thought the list was biased or inaccurate. I mean even after the scandal, I doubt Kuu's popularity woulda dropped THAT much that she would not be in a top 20 poll, same goes with Ayu. Namie should also be in top 5 with the recent popularity boom too.

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 28th November 2008 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1720596)
The thing about this list is that it's chosen by Oricon Style subscribers, who all are very much Mr. Children / aiko / Hikki fans. This is a very biased list, as it only samples like 20,000 people who all generally have the same music interests.

It is because I find the polls biased, I really don't care so much if Ayu is or isn't on the list. Pretty sure if the survey was over 20,000 random people off the streets, the answers would be different.

ayuayu798 28th November 2008 11:46 PM

I wouldn't be worried 20,000 out of the whole population of Japan isnt a lot at all!!

taskinillusion 29th November 2008 12:12 AM

Still, I gotta admit, I'm pretty shocked she's not there. I mean, out of TWENTY people, she's not there at all? :/

ストロボ・EdGE 29th November 2008 12:16 AM

BTW, are there ANY avex artists on that list??

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 29th November 2008 01:17 AM

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BTW, are there ANY avex artists on that list??
Namie Amuro and EXILE

emi♡ 29th November 2008 03:12 AM

:laugh

Ayu has been losing popularity for a long time.

I mean honestly, you could probably go sample all of Japan, and she would maybe MAYBE be in the top ten.

Some people need to come back to reality.

Ayu is just not as popular as she once was. Besides, there are other artists that deserve attention too, it's not all about her.

Hanabi_surreal 29th November 2008 03:14 AM

Maybe is 'cause she don't give the public new music in this year O.O
don't you?

crazygeek 29th November 2008 03:18 AM

i hate utada

ストロボ・EdGE 29th November 2008 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by emiko (Post 1721000)
:laugh

Ayu has been losing popularity for a long time.

I mean honestly, you could probably go sample all of Japan, and she would maybe MAYBE be in the top ten.

Some people need to come back to reality.

Ayu is just not as popular as she once was. Besides, there are other artists that deserve attention too, it's not all about her.

Well, you see, I didn't know this. I figured she wouldn't be called the Empress of JPop if she wasn't the Queen anymore. You know, that the title would be passed to one of the new hot-shots in the same way that it was passed from Amuro to Ayu.

A lot of the people commenting here have gotten a little hostile, c'mon please,,

SunshineSlayer 29th November 2008 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by andre2907 (Post 1719284)
I disagree. Fairyland was playing absolutely EVERYWHERE you went to in Japan when it was released: on the super market, on record stores, on the streets. I think that was her last really popular song.

That's true of pretty much any major pop artist when they release a new single in Japan. :)

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Originally Posted by ayuayu798 (Post 1720746)
I wouldn't be worried 20,000 out of the whole population of Japan isnt a lot at all!!

It's still enough to get a general sense. I mean people here follow the Ninki polls, and that is only 400 people.

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 1721026)
Well, you see, I didn't know this. I figured she wouldn't be called the Empress of JPop if she wasn't the Queen anymore. You know, that the title would be passed to one of the new hot-shots in the same way that it was passed from Amuro to Ayu.

A lot of the people commenting here have gotten a little hostile, c'mon please,,

Seiko Matsuda and Akina Nakamori are still called the Queen's or Empresses of J-Pop, yet obviously they aren't popular anymore.

Rocky Raven 29th November 2008 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 1721026)
Well, you see, I didn't know this. I figured she wouldn't be called the Empress of JPop if she wasn't the Queen anymore. You know, that the title would be passed to one of the new hot-shots in the same way that it was passed from Amuro to Ayu.

A lot of the people commenting here have gotten a little hostile, c'mon please,,

Feel sorry for Ayu but the way u post make me think that u dont even ever listen or know about Namie!Especially her work this year!

emi♡ 29th November 2008 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 1721026)
Well, you see, I didn't know this. I figured she wouldn't be called the Empress of JPop if she wasn't the Queen anymore. You know, that the title would be passed to one of the new hot-shots in the same way that it was passed from Amuro to Ayu.

A lot of the people commenting here have gotten a little hostile, c'mon please,,

Do you think there is anyone else seriously worthy of the title? lol

Ayu is called a lot of things. Remember that Avex does pay for her marketing. They'd call her the Queen forever if it would help their sales and if they didn't decide it was another artist.

I personally don't see anyone worthy of the title atm, not even Koda Kumi. Her lasting power gosh...nose dove at a rate three times that of Ayu :laugh Ai Otsuka...psh, she doesn't have anything. There really isn't another REALLY great person yet. Maybe if Alan has as much support in Japan as she does at AHS, but it's really too early to tell lol.

and uh...honestly, rockyraven...he doesn't have to know about namie. God, I've listened to a few of her albums, and my opinions of her havent changed drastically at all since before when I hadn't listened to any of her music. I think she's respected of course, much in the same way ayu will be too, forever, and I think he recognizes that at least.

truehappiness 29th November 2008 04:26 AM

If you look at the previous years, Ayu hasn't even broken the top 10..it's basically the same 10 artists in the top 10 with some fluctuation due to different interests each year.

2005's top 10 vs. 2008's top 10
1. aiko / Utada Hikaru
2. Utada Hikaru / Kobukuro
3. Mr. Children / aiko
4. Porno Graffiti / Mr. Children
5. B'z / Dreams Come True
6. BoA / Southern All-Stars
7. Southern All-Stars / Namie Amuro
8. SPITZ / B'z
9. Ai Otsuka / SPITZ
10. Mika Nakashima / ARASHI

Seriously, this poll-thing really isn't that reliable. LOL. It barely changes each year other than like 4~5 artists.. lame. I mean how would BoA get #5 in 2005? BEST OF SOUL?

SURREAL__RAINBOW 29th November 2008 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1721087)
If you look at the previous years, Ayu hasn't even broken the top 10..it's basically the same 10 artists in the top 10 with some fluctuation due to different interests each year.

2005's top 10 vs. 2008's top 10
1. aiko / Utada Hikaru
2. Utada Hikaru / Kobukuro
3. Mr. Children / aiko
4. Porno Graffiti / Mr. Children
5. B'z / Dreams Come True
6. BoA / Southern All-Stars
7. Southern All-Stars / Namie Amuro
8. SPITZ / B'z
9. Ai Otsuka / SPITZ
10. Mika Nakashima / ARASHI

Seriously, this poll-thing really isn't that reliable. LOL. It barely changes each year other than like 4~5 artists.. lame. I mean how would BoA get #5 in 2005? BEST OF SOUL?



why is aiko soo popular in those polls?? xDD

her voice is not that good, and she looks a bit weird to me...


she still cute

but not enough xDD

ストロボ・EdGE 29th November 2008 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocky Raven (Post 1721036)
Feel sorry for Ayu but the way u post make me think that u dont even ever listen or know about Namie!Especially her work this year!

To be honest, Namie just got lucky with BEST FICTION. Hasn't she been struggling for a while? Not saying that she doesn't have talent or anything... I love "NEW LOOK"!

BTW, Seiko Matsuda is also called "The Empress of JPop"?! She's like 1,000 years old and she releases still single after single, every year a couple... she doesn't stop even though she only sells 10,000 copies per single; THIS is what I don't want to happen to Ayu!!!!

Rocky Raven 29th November 2008 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 1721116)
To be honest, Namie just got lucky with BEST FICTION. Hasn't she been struggling for a while? Not saying that she doesn't have talent or anything... I love "NEW LOOK"!

Why u say she just "lucky"? I'm sure that 1,4 million ppl who have already bought BF didnt buy that album just for fun/
@___@ U also love my most hated song for Namie. I skip that song everytime i play BF
New Look doesnt show the world that NAMIE AMURO's style! that song is...not her =__= Terrible simple pop song i have to be honest about that.
anyway nevermind, u have different taste ^____^

ストロボ・EdGE 29th November 2008 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocky Raven (Post 1721124)
Why u say she just "lucky"? I'm sure that 1,4 ppl who have already bought BF didnt buy that album just for fun/
@___@ U also love my most hated song for Namie.
New Look doesnt show the world that NAMIE AMURO's style! that song is...not her =__= Terrible simple pop song i have to be honest about that.
anyway nevermind, u have different taste ^____^

Yes but what I meant was that her sales have dropped more dramatically than Ayu's; face it, she's lost a whole lot of popularity, even more than Ayumi.

PLAY and QUEEN OF HIP HOP only sold half a million! STYLE sold even less! Like 250,000.

Until I started this thread (to my dismay), I still thought Ayu was on top of the world (I'm a fairly new Ayu fan). And the truth is that the title WAS taken away from Ms. Amuro and given to Ayumi.


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