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ren0210989 3rd December 2008 04:39 PM

i agree with ImpactBreaker.
i don't think Ayu was hit by it, she moved on.

but now that i've seen Days PV, it kinda makes me think that Ayu is having toughts about Tomoya....
and the clock in the PV shoes 6 o'clock and 8 o'clock... kinda like 2006/2008... and she woke up at 8 o'clock like she's just realized now that maybe she should have taken Tomoyas proposal....

i don't know what to think anymore @_@

ayu_ready? 3rd December 2008 06:08 PM

poor poor Ayu :(

BoBo 3rd December 2008 06:29 PM

if he thinks he will be happy this way, congrats :P

jbrat2219 3rd December 2008 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ren0210989 (Post 1726419)
i agree with ImpactBreaker.
i don't think Ayu was hit by it, she moved on.

but now that i've seen Days PV, it kinda makes me think that Ayu is having toughts about Tomoya....
and the clock in the PV shoes 6 o'clock and 8 o'clock... kinda like 2006/2008... and she woke up at 8 o'clock like she's just realized now that maybe she should have taken Tomoyas proposal....
i don't know what to think anymore @_@

That's an interesting take on the PV! Maybe that is the hidden meaning after all...

Raleigh 3rd December 2008 06:50 PM

Well to be honest even if Ayu feels bad about it.. I don't really think we should feel sorry for her. Might sound mean but she made her decision to end it after being together for such a long time. She's an adult and a mature one, as we have seen.

But then people change, sometimes they regret letting someone go and wish they could go back in time...

On another note if he is getting married after a short time.... doesn't really give me a good feeling. I always thought that dating Aibu so fast wasn't very intelligent. I don't think someone can get over a very important relationship so fast. Maybe he just wanted to get married, didn't matter who...

Anyway all the best for both of them. I like all of the three so I wish them all the best. It's a real shame that Ayu and Tomoya didn't have a happy ending though..

AyaCere 3rd December 2008 08:32 PM

After a year dating he wants to marry this girl but he was 7 years with Ayu together, they wanted to marry too bur finally broke up...

I think that can't be true...

ImpactBreaker 3rd December 2008 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk (Post 1726523)
On another note if he is getting married after a short time.... doesn't really give me a good feeling. I always thought that dating Aibu so fast wasn't very intelligent. I don't think someone can get over a very important relationship so fast. Maybe he just wanted to get married, didn't matter who...

I agree with most of you said in this post, but I think I'd just comment in this specific part:

ayu and nagase's relationship lasted at around 7 years. What if the last years were all for convenience? Like, the relationship was already weary, and they didn't really have time for each other, and everything kind of froze gradually? If that happened, I don't think it would be hard to get over it, since usually you have gotten over the relationship right before it even ended. I always thought it was weird that ayu was almost never seem out there with him, but would constantly be caught without him but with her friends over bars and parties or whatever.

Raleigh 3rd December 2008 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1726641)
I agree with most of you said in this post, but I think I'd just comment in this specific part:

ayu and nagase's relationship lasted at around 7 years. What if the last years were all for convenience? Like, the relationship was already weary, and they didn't really have time for each other, and everything kind of froze gradually? If that happened, I don't think it would be hard to get over it, since usually you have gotten over the relationship right before it even ended. I always thought it was weird that ayu was almost never seem out there with him, but would constantly be caught without him but with her friends over bars and parties or whatever.

You have a point. If the relationship had indeed faded into something where both didn't really feel anything for each other then it would've been easier for Tomoya to move on so fast. If what they had just faded into friendly terms as they both said they did it would be easy for both to date.

It's hard to tell what was really going on... and no one will really know. Especially since both can show a different image of what actually happened. But I have a feeling that both just had such a busy schedule (especially Ayu) that eventually they just got tired of trying to sort out how and when to go out/meet up. Maybe Ayu felt lonely when Tomoya was busy and she wasn't and started partying with friends to the point that partying was more fun for her. Maybe Tomoya just wanted Ayu to get married to him and get a less busy schedule so they would have more time. My hunch is that he got tired of waiting and she chose her career over him.

Somehow when I read her lyrics I get the feeling that their relationship had its' ups and downs. The only time she seems completely happy is in "RAINBOW" era. "Close to you", "RAINBOW" and "Voyage" sound like she had felt like she had met her soul mate.

Things seem to change in "MY STORY" era though. "Carols" shows that they were going through problems and they had broken up sometimes when they had problems. It shows a hint of insecurity too.. as if she feels she bothers him at times.

"part of me" was a sort of reassuring song, as if he was becoming less secure about their relationship and she seemed to force herself to show him that she was going to be there. Somehow I feel that despite the fact that they were both tired after work, etc, she still appreciated being the only one who could see that side of him as we see in "JEWEL".

Finally after their break-up, it seems that she wrote a lot about him and her lyrics are a bit hazy, as if she is not exactly sure of her direction. "GUILTY" and "dlma" seem to hint so. "Together When" reveals she still feels very strongly towards him despite of their parting. "Marionette" reveals that their relationship wasn't as rosy as the media designed it to be.

lfe. 3rd December 2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 1726091)
Maybe he is drunk and thinks he is still with Ayu HAHAHHAA

LOL

Tomoya: IM GETTING MARRIED..... TO AYU!

Friend: Dude, that was last year


I bet shes a bit bothered that hes moving on so soon but I don't think shes sad because she probably was the one that broke it off.

Beauty4123 3rd December 2008 10:26 PM

wow, unexpecting news. i wonder if ayu knows, lol. :P but we shouldn't feel sorry for her. she'll find someone better one day. :yes

ayumi_cute 3rd December 2008 10:44 PM

Poor ayu
Hope ayu's fine..

Maybe ayu already know that tomoya is getting married that inspire ayu to make DAY song and pv like that...

pommy48 3rd December 2008 10:57 PM

o.O and what does this have to do with ayu?

Jeremy911 3rd December 2008 11:10 PM

Maybe now Ayu can finally marry Yoshio Nomura:P

Calico 3rd December 2008 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1726757)
o.O and what does this have to do with ayu?

Tomoya was Ayu's boyfriend of 7 years. They broke up last year.

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 3rd December 2008 11:46 PM

Congrats to Tomoya if he is getting married.
I don't know why some people are saying that Tomoya dating Aibu for a year isn't enough time to decide if he wants to marry. My choir teacher only dated his wife for four months before proposing and they've been together for about 23 years.

Quote:

Maybe he is drunk and thinks he is still with Ayu HAHAHHAA
Quote:

Tomoya: IM GETTING MARRIED..... TO AYU!

Friend: Dude, that was last year
I snorked so bad when I read that.

pommy48 3rd December 2008 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Calico (Post 1726817)
Tomoya was Ayu's boyfriend of 7 years. They broke up last year.

oh i know that..i'm just wondering what does this have to do with ayu directly...

Calico 3rd December 2008 11:59 PM

I think the "shock" is in the fact that it's only been a year. And also there are a lot of connections between this event and Days. Pretty much everything personal related to Tomoya has been posted here anyway. >.o

Jwiz 4th December 2008 12:17 AM

Thanks for the news!

ownsarai 4th December 2008 12:56 AM

Well, it's not confirmed anyhow, and even if it is true, I'm sure Ayu doesn't really mind. She has to be over him by now, at least I would hope so. Unless the Days PV is about this situation...

SURREAL__RAINBOW 4th December 2008 12:57 AM

I hate him

hes such an idiot

....





thanks for this info anyway


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