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channy 7th May 2010 12:40 PM

I have no clue how anyone can tell, that MOON sounds rather good or not. It's a 15 seconds commercial or let it be 30 seconds, but also, there's the fact, that her songs used for a commercial are edited somehow, so they sound different from the actual "Original Mix".

Let's wait till we know the whole song.

Cherry Dynamite 7th May 2010 01:08 PM

I still don't like MOON, But I'll have to wait for Full HQ before I can decide.

Foyuki 7th May 2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AyUmIXx (Post 2349418)
got this info from AyuChina

New Single?

Fake
it is not from ayuchina

Tony G 7th May 2010 01:26 PM

The song sounds even better in the CM!

amorphose 7th May 2010 01:31 PM

Glad that specific rumor was fake. I hate the title SKYLINE. haha I do love MOON so much though. I can tell it's gonna be one of my favorite songs ever. I'm hoping she does a triple a-side in June or July though.

Mirrorcle Monster 7th May 2010 01:34 PM

The Cm is awsome!!!

AngelxAyumi 7th May 2010 01:38 PM

cant wait for this to be released... sounds good from the honda commercial... but they dont play very much which is annoying! lol... but yeah cant wait for it XD

Bigtop 7th May 2010 02:27 PM

Well, there's still even no data about when this single is going out... Maybe if Avex officially announces the single, then I would say it's going to be released sometime around late July/early August or so...

toniayu 7th May 2010 02:32 PM

new single????YAY!!!perhaps...

Mari-chan 7th May 2010 03:11 PM

Isn't the Musik in the Cm different from the Mic-Recording, we heard befor??

AyuWorld 7th May 2010 03:17 PM

^ yeah the CM mix is slightly different from the other preview~

jbrat2219 7th May 2010 03:18 PM

After hearing the song in better quality. I'm not really feelin' it. It's quite boring, generic and it's only memorable because it reminds me of another song. Give me another Sunrise as a summer song over this any day. I also hope it's not the main A-side and that she has another song up her sleeve. Maybe the full track will change my mind. Also, how is this a ballad? Maybe my definition of ballad is limited but this just sounds mid-tempo not mid-tempo "ballad" but whatever. And even though I don't really like this track I'd take it over Last Links (her most generic, unoriginal and underwhelming song to date in my book) any time any day. /end crankiness.

noisy_harmony 7th May 2010 03:22 PM

^ I... I have to agree with all you said o.O (maybe only not with Last Links xD)

*waiting patiently for full song*

Kazeyomi 7th May 2010 03:34 PM

How can people judge a 30 seconds song?
I remember when most of us don't like Don't look back CM preview and now most of us love it lol.
MOON it's so and so for me atm, I'll wait the longer version for judge it.

Nackar_91 7th May 2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2349708)
After hearing the song in better quality. I'm not really feelin' it. It's quite boring, generic and it's only memorable because it reminds me of another song. Give me another Sunrise as a summer song over this any day. I also hope it's not the main A-side and that she has another song up her sleeve. Maybe the full track will change my mind. Also, how is this a ballad? Maybe my definition of ballad is limited but this just sounds mid-tempo not mid-tempo "ballad" but whatever. And even though I don't really like this track I'd take it over Last Links (her most generic, unoriginal and underwhelming song to date in my book) any time any day. /end crankiness.

Well, I absolutely adore Last Links and thought it was everything but generic, so yeah, I'd also rather have something like that.

I hope her next single isn't a ballad though. I'm not a ballad fan and I can only appreciate it if they're epic (like, ironically, BALLAD). Plus it really doesn't fit in with the summer, if she were to release a single around that time.

njanjayrp 7th May 2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2349708)
After hearing the song in better quality. I'm not really feelin' it. It's quite boring, generic and it's only memorable because it reminds me of another song. Give me another Sunrise as a summer song over this any day. I also hope it's not the main A-side and that she has another song up her sleeve. Maybe the full track will change my mind. Also, how is this a ballad? Maybe my definition of ballad is limited but this just sounds mid-tempo not mid-tempo "ballad" but whatever. And even though I don't really like this track I'd take it over Last Links (her most generic, unoriginal and underwhelming song to date in my book) any time any day. /end crankiness.

15 seconds? You've based your opinion on 15 seconds? (and this goes to the people who are already loving the song as well) I rest my case...

Max_ZZZ 7th May 2010 04:43 PM

ppleeeeease don't change how this sounds for the real version!!

i hope for a june-july release

this chorus is so catchy, one time i actually was looking through rnrc looking for this song i was humming then realized it was moon LOL

njanjayrp 7th May 2010 05:03 PM

^ late July/early August I guess - just in time for a-nation.

Max_ZZZ 7th May 2010 06:06 PM

honestly that's true... but i wish it wasn't '-___-
it just seems like another 2 single album pattern and i would love to see if 3 singles would affect her album sales

truehappiness 7th May 2010 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2349708)
After hearing the song in better quality. I'm not really feelin' it. It's quite boring, generic and it's only memorable because it reminds me of another song. Give me another Sunrise as a summer song over this any day. I also hope it's not the main A-side and that she has another song up her sleeve. Maybe the full track will change my mind. Also, how is this a ballad? Maybe my definition of ballad is limited but this just sounds mid-tempo not mid-tempo "ballad" but whatever. And even though I don't really like this track I'd take it over Last Links (her most generic, unoriginal and underwhelming song to date in my book) any time any day. /end crankiness.

Japanese people loooove genericness though. Her interesting stuff always flies over their heads and she's basically got to cater to her main audience. It's lame that the alternas and such always get such a cold shoulder from Japanese people, but that's life.

(I love this song and Last Links soooooooooo, lol. They both have nice melodies and strong messages imo.)

It seems to me like you tend to stray away from simple-sounding songs, haha. How are you when it comes to Life and Curtain call?

This song is a ballad in the sense that it basically is an ~emotional love song~ of some sort, I think.

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The most common use of the term ballad in modern pop music is for an emotional love song.[32] When the word ballad appears in the title of a song, as for example in The Beatles's "The Ballad of John and Yoko" or Billy Joel's "The Ballad of Billy the Kid", the folk-music sense is generally implied. Ballad is also sometimes applied to strophic story-songs more generally, such as Don McLean's "American Pie".[33]
--from Wikipedia

"Let me give you a gentle song for you to believe in forever and ever.. I just want to see your smile once again, yadda yadda..."

Typical Japanese ballad-y lyrics. The song is probably a lot better in full, but I dunno how people will feel about it since accounting for personal taste is just.. I don't even know.

ayu-marco 7th May 2010 06:20 PM

just hearing the preview
i like MOON so much

Lanz16 7th May 2010 06:55 PM

In the preview, I love it so much.
I love the melodies, its kinda nostalgic since the composer is from her ASfXX era.

About on the rumored single, I doubt its fake.
MOON/SKYLINE is such a good title to be true.

AyUta 8th May 2010 04:15 AM

Idk...it sounds alright, but then again it doesn't. Or at least not to my liking. I need to wait for the full thing :).

AyuGAME 8th May 2010 04:53 AM

i love it even more after see that honda cm...
the way ayu sing it really make me remember old ayu, its kinda raw and emotional...love it

jbrat2219 8th May 2010 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2349897)
It seems to me like you tend to stray away from simple-sounding songs, haha. How are you when it comes to Life and Curtain call?

I ADORE Curtain call. I think it's perfect and under-appreciated. As far as Life, I never listen to it. I kind of forget it exists like teens and a song is born. I just hope MOON turns out to be better than the preview leads on. Previews suck in that respect they ruin the essence of a song.

As for Last Links, I see why people eat up that song. But really, an Ayu song only disappoints me when I feel like ANYONE in the world can sing it. Maybe it's just me but I'm not moved by her emotion for this track. It's her vocals I have a big problem with (and that crappy chorus). I LOVE the lyrics though.

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2349782)
15 seconds? You've based your opinion on 15 seconds?

I've based my opinion of a 15 second clip on a 15 second clip, yes. :P When the full song comes out I'll decide whether or not I like it but so far the clip leaves much to be desired.

truehappiness 8th May 2010 07:08 AM

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But really, an Ayu song only disappoints me when I feel like ANYONE in the world can sing it. Maybe it's just me but I'm not moved by her emotion for this track. It's her vocals I have a big problem with (and that crappy chorus). I LOVE the lyrics though.
Well, I think anyone in the world could've sung it, but that goes for a lot of Ayu songs. In Ayu's case though, only she could've written a lot of the songs that she has, haha.

Bigtop 8th May 2010 07:10 AM

I hope I can listen it in full; my estimate is that it could be five minutes long; maybe slightly longer or shorter or such...

And my estimate that it could be released sometime in late July or even August...

SURREAL__RAINBOW 8th May 2010 07:41 AM

if she is singing it at her concerts already this song shouldnt take long to be released right??? I mean, even next month or something??

love in music 8th May 2010 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2349708)
I'd take it over Last Links (her most generic, unoriginal and underwhelming song to date in my book) any time any day. /end crankiness.

Last Links her most generic & unoriginal? Even compared to Days, Sunset, glitter, and a lot of the ASFXX album?
http://i39.tinypic.com/11ad3x4.gif

jbrat2219 8th May 2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2350403)
Well, I think anyone in the world could've sung it, but that goes for a lot of Ayu songs. In Ayu's case though, only she could've written a lot of the songs that she has, haha.

Ayu does not have that many songs anyone could sing or would sound as good if anyone else have sung them. She has a uniqueness to her music that is just missing from Last Links. I don't HATE Last Links, it's a nice listen. But it just falls so low below the bar for me as far as Ayu's music is concerned.

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2350417)
Last Links her most generic & unoriginal? Even compared to Days, Sunset, glitter, and a lot of the ASFXX album?
http://i39.tinypic.com/11ad3x4.gif

Even compared to those songs Last Links is the worst as far as originality. It's not about the instrumentals or composition of this particular song. I don't feel anything from it at all. Her voice doesn't deliver the song. Even in Sunset her vocals are better (as my friend who doesn't like her would describe, "sexy" :roflmao). When I say anyone could sing it, I literally mean anyone could sing it, because Ayu's emotion are not there in my opinion. :no And it feels so rushed, it seems like she's singing the entire song through without stopping because she wants to get it over with. In the universally agreed generic song Days, Ayu's voice is FILLED with emotion and sweet tenderness and that is why Days has captivated a lot of fans and is STILL on the charts (in one way or another). But this isn't about those, this is about the 15 sec clip of MOON, which so far seems to deliver as much as Last Links which is nothing at least to me. But I'll wait for the full song because I still really want to hear it.

Ayusan 8th May 2010 04:16 PM

wow what a "fight" for 15 sec. of a song lol

Personnally I have no real opinion for MOON for the simple reason it's 15 seconds O.O though I have an odd feeling but how can you hate it or love it with 15 sec ?! Lucky that we don't judge humans only by their clothes we saw for 15 seconds or we would miss a lot on earth I think !

Anyway yeah, she already sing it in lives, I wonder if we will have to wait until july, august .... sounds odd to me. A good parts of their fans would already known the song by the time. Or she won't release it ? Or only as digital .... don't have a clue at all.

love in music 9th May 2010 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2350754)
Even compared to those songs Last Links is the worst as far as originality. It's not about the instrumentals or composition of this particular song. I don't feel anything from it at all. Her voice doesn't deliver the song. Even in Sunset her vocals are better (as my friend who doesn't like her would describe, "sexy" :roflmao). When I say anyone could sing it, I literally mean anyone could sing it, because Ayu's emotion are not there in my opinion. :no And it feels so rushed, it seems like she's singing the entire song through without stopping because she wants to get it over with. In the universally agreed generic song Days, Ayu's voice is FILLED with emotion and sweet tenderness and that is why Days has captivated a lot of fans and is STILL on the charts (in one way or another). But this isn't about those, this is about the 15 sec clip of MOON, which so far seems to deliver as much as Last Links which is nothing at least to me. But I'll wait for the full song because I still really want to hear it.

It's like, hard for me to understand how you can think that about Last Links but okay :P I think the exact opposite of you on Last Links and Days. It's like, imagine someone saying "Sparkle" is super bland and boring and her most boring dance song ever.. you'd be like "what?!" that's how I feel about what you're saying about Last Links...like for me, it's so far from the truth. But I think it's interesting that you think of it that way.

amorphose 9th May 2010 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2350417)
Last Links her most generic & unoriginal? Even compared to Days, Sunset, glitter, and a lot of the ASFXX album?
http://i39.tinypic.com/11ad3x4.gif

LOL @ this

I'm sorry~ I'm one of the people that's formed a strong opinion based on the clip. I loveee it. I feel like it's going to be as epic as Moments! :luv2 It doesn't remind me of Moments or anything, but I feel like it's gonna be her best ballad since then. :D

I'd also personally love if this song came out next month. I want more than two singles for the next album, please.

hsienko 9th May 2010 04:12 AM

I like it. But I think it's too early to form a 'real' opinion because the CM versions tend to suck. Like I remember how awful Sparkle and GAME sounded in the Honda and Panasonic commericals.

jbrat2219 9th May 2010 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2351174)
It's like, hard for me to understand how you can think that about Last Links but okay :P I think the exact opposite of you on Last Links and Days. It's like, imagine someone saying "Sparkle" is super bland and boring and her most boring dance song ever.. you'd be like "what?!" that's how I feel about what you're saying about Last Links...like for me, it's so far from the truth. But I think it's interesting that you think of it that way.

Lol that's why everyone is different! I admit, I was super cranky I don't think nearly as negatively about Last Links as I let off. I still think it's unoriginal though lol.

tokyoxjapanxfan 9th May 2010 11:47 AM

So I found the lyrics of MOON from someone who went to one of the concerts and took down the lyrics on the screen.

While there can still be mistakes, depending on whether or not the person wrote them down 100% correctly or not, here they are:

僕たち出会った夜は
幻想の中に紛れて
夢とリアルを行き来したから
幻のように消えてった

あの日の月は遠すぎて
記憶も曖昧なままで
君の姿はぼやけてたから
忘れられるはずだったんだ

傷つけた心が初めて見せた涙を
この手でそっと拭う
勇気がなくてごめんね

ねぇ優しい歌を君にあげるよ
永遠と永遠信じられるように
だからもうそんな悲しい瞳で
震える声で聞かないで...
「愛してる?」

手をのばせば届きそうな月を
二人で見上げたね
綺麗過ぎて苦しかったから
泣きだしそうになったんだ

瞳を閉じて誓った祈りが
叶うのならば
もうそれ以上他には何も
何にもいらない

ねぇ優しい歌を君にあげるよ
永遠と永遠信じられるように
だからどうか君は笑っていて
幸せだよと聞かせて...もう一度

優しい歌を君にあげるよ
永遠を永遠信じられるように
だからもうそんな悲しい瞳で
震える声を隠して聞かないで...
ねぇ愛してる?

優しい歌を君にあげるよ
永遠と永遠信じられるように
だからどうか君は笑っていて
幸せだよと聞かせて
もう一度





They weren't on the main page, but have they been posted in full yet?
haha...

Anyway, they were on an Ameba blog~

ayane4ever 9th May 2010 11:50 AM

It sounds good...can't wait for the full song :yes

millie47 9th May 2010 12:28 PM

thanks for the preview!!:D

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Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 2317730)
(damn it..Ayu is giving me back what F.I.R has lost)

uuuuu!!! I loved F.I.R too!;D just saying..haha :))

Misa-chan 9th May 2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by amorphose (Post 2349282)
Did you guys see this?



It's in the DL section~

...

That doesn't sound like what I have from my TA chaku-uta.

I really hope the final version is the chaku-uta one, and not this. This version sounds horrid to me... :weep

tokyoxjapanxfan, nice lyrics!! :heart them~~

AyUmIXx 9th May 2010 03:27 PM

MOON..
all i can say, I really need a HQ ver..
listening to the preview, I still don't really find it that special yet..
but what Max and Ayu mentioned about MOON for being like a nostalgic song to the old Ayu... and it's been a special song to Ayu and Max..

Misa-chan 9th May 2010 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AyUmIXx (Post 2351565)
MOON..
all i can say, I really need a HQ ver..
listening to the preview, I still don't really find it that special yet..
but what Max and Ayu mentioned about MOON for being like a nostalgic song to the old Ayu... and it's been a special song to Ayu and Max..

I felt the special-ness with the chaku-uta version, but not with this. This version kills the song somewhat.

I still don't know if it's just me and my ears, but the CM version really sounds very different from the chaku-uta. The chaku-uta really gave me that old classic ayu feeling, but the CM one just made me wonder what kind of weird arrangement they subjected the song to. Could someone who actually has the chaku-uta listen to it and tell me I'm not hearing things?

AyUmIXx 9th May 2010 04:22 PM

^
really?
so it's liked a totally different songs? hmm~~
sometimes ago, we got the short preview from the chaku-uta
but i also forgot already how did it sound like hahaha..
oh well.. still waiting for MOON~
even with chaku-uta or the CM song..i still can't judge what's the special-ness on this song yet hehe~

Bigtop 9th May 2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AyUmIXx (Post 2351565)
MOON..
all i can say, I really need a HQ ver..
listening to the preview, I still don't really find it that special yet..
but what Max and Ayu mentioned about MOON for being like a nostalgic song to the old Ayu... and it's been a special song to Ayu and Max..

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Originally Posted by Misa-chan (Post 2351574)
I felt the special-ness with the chaku-uta version, but not with this. This version kills the song somewhat.

I still don't know if it's just me and my ears, but the CM version really sounds very different from the chaku-uta. The chaku-uta really gave me that old classic ayu feeling, but the CM one just made me wonder what kind of weird arrangement they subjected the song to. Could someone who actually has the chaku-uta listen to it and tell me I'm not hearing things?

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Originally Posted by AyUmIXx (Post 2351631)
^
really?
so it's liked a totally different songs? hmm~~
sometimes ago, we got the short preview from the chaku-uta
but i also forgot already how did it sound like hahaha..
oh well.. still waiting for MOON~
even with chaku-uta or the CM song..i still can't judge what's the special-ness on this song yet hehe~

Umm...what's the problem with "special-ness"?

AyuWorld 9th May 2010 04:35 PM

^yes Misa chan i notice it too,this CM version is slighty different from the chaku uta rip.i listen to it again and again.from the chaku uta feel like i'm listening to the mix of ASFXX~verison 2~ with the guitar and string mix and have the feeling of Season :P i cant hear the strings in the CM,maybe thats just me,idk,


all we had now just a LQ preview of it,kinda hard to judge it now~

AyUmIXx 9th May 2010 05:09 PM

true..probably both ver taken from different part..one chorus one bridge?
gosh can't wait Ayu!!

Bigtop 9th May 2010 05:11 PM

Time passes, and I'm still waiting for it...

evolution 9th May 2010 05:14 PM

i tot both sounds the same?

Misa-chan 9th May 2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AyuWorld (Post 2351641)
^yes Misa chan i notice it too,this CM version is slighty different from the chaku uta rip.i listen to it again and again.from the chaku uta feel like i'm listening to the mix of ASFXX~verison 2~ with the guitar and string mix and have the feeling of Season :P i cant hear the strings in the CM,maybe thats just me,idk,


all we had now just a LQ preview of it,kinda hard to judge it now~

Yeah, the chaku-uta version had stronger strings, and some fantastic drumming going on. And none of that crazy bass going on like in the CM version.

Oh well, I guess it IS too early to judge. But the chaku-uta really had my hopes up. No ayu preview ever got me the way MOON did, lol!! :luv2

*Ayu_Freak* 9th May 2010 06:42 PM

I have just downloaded it to me and it sounds again very good, and definitely be back very rocky

truehappiness 9th May 2010 07:23 PM

That clip of the CM has some really LQ audio, I think. I got the high def-ish TV version and it sounds like a clearer version of the original chaku uta, hm....

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 9th May 2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Misa-chan (Post 2351728)
Yeah, the chaku-uta version had stronger strings, and some fantastic drumming going on. And none of that crazy bass going on like in the CM version.

Oh well, I guess it IS too early to judge. But the chaku-uta really had my hopes up. No ayu preview ever got me the way MOON did, lol!! :luv2

The drums are almost as audible as Ayu singing. :irked

love in music 9th May 2010 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2351814)
That clip of the CM has some really LQ audio, I think. I got the high def-ish TV version and it sounds like a clearer version of the original chaku uta, hm....

:yes Misa-chan, go download the HD CM!

Bigtop 10th May 2010 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2351920)
:yes Misa-chan, go download the HD CM!

Yeah, I want it too...

truehappiness 10th May 2010 01:58 AM

It's in the Downloads section.

Misa-chan 10th May 2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Yum!Fruit_Salad! (Post 2351878)
The drums are almost as audible as Ayu singing. :irked

That wasn't my complaint. The fantastic drumming is still there, but the bass just covered it all up. :shakehead

I did listen to the DL version. It's not changed my opinion. :no Oh well, guess I'll just cross my fingers and wait to hear the final arrangement...

GRACE 10th May 2010 02:53 PM

^Misa-chan, is it really wise to get all pissed about a version that's muffled and has someone talking over all of it? The song was done when she released the Chaku-Uta, therefore, this shouldn't be a different mix, it'd just be lower quality then the chaku-uta rip

elvis810 10th May 2010 03:00 PM

i agree the song reminds me of the old ayu before I am... era.
Look forward to the whole song.

Keiichi_JPU 11th May 2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GRACE (Post 2352412)
^Misa-chan, is it really wise to get all pissed about a version that's muffled and has someone talking over all of it? The song was done when she released the Chaku-Uta, therefore, this shouldn't be a different mix, it'd just be lower quality then the chaku-uta rip

Agreed. It's just a quality difference probably.

Misa-chan 12th May 2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GRACE (Post 2352412)
^Misa-chan, is it really wise to get all pissed about a version that's muffled and has someone talking over all of it? The song was done when she released the Chaku-Uta, therefore, this shouldn't be a different mix, it'd just be lower quality then the chaku-uta rip

Nahh, I'm not pissed. Disappointed maybe, but not angry definitely.

I guess everyone's misunderstanding what I'm saying, actually. My concern is not about the quality, it's about the arrangement of the song. In the chaku-uta, there was none of that bass sound that it is so clearly, definitely there in the CM version. I think it's a horrible addition, and my hope is that the final version doesn't actually have that bass sound, and even if it does, at least turn it down and not let it rule over the entire sound the way it's doing in the CM version. That's all.

And this is all just my personal opinion. Many people like this CM version, I'm fine with that. I love the song itself too, alot. Personally, I just don't like that CM arrangement.

AyuWorld 12th May 2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Misa-chan (Post 2351728)
Yeah, the chaku-uta version had stronger strings, and some fantastic drumming going on. And none of that crazy bass going on like in the CM version.

Oh well, I guess it IS too early to judge. But the chaku-uta really had my hopes up. No ayu preview ever got me the way MOON did, lol!! :luv2

agreed :yes

that bass in the CM mix took over the song :thud

just wait for the full version then,hope it'll be a lil bit different~

Queen Bee 12th May 2010 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Misa-chan (Post 2354462)
Nahh, I'm not pissed. Disappointed maybe, but not angry definitely.

I guess everyone's misunderstanding what I'm saying, actually. My concern is not about the quality, it's about the arrangement of the song. In the chaku-uta, there was none of that bass sound that it is so clearly, definitely there in the CM version. I think it's a horrible addition, and my hope is that the final version doesn't actually have that bass sound, and even if it does, at least turn it down and not let it rule over the entire sound the way it's doing in the CM version. That's all.

And this is all just my personal opinion. Many people like this CM version, I'm fine with that. I love the song itself too, alot. Personally, I just don't like that CM arrangement.

It could always be that the CM used a demo of the song and CM has been done for a while but they had to wait on promotion and the chaku-uta is the actual finished product?

I'm probably wrong. Or this whole thing could be like Moments with the sound in the CM was VERY different compared to the actual studio recording. I personally loved the CM version. I think Moments might be a case where the CM and finished song are the most different. Ack! Sorry to get off topic.

Misa-chan 12th May 2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumi626 (Post 2354617)
It could always be that the CM used a demo of the song and CM has been done for a while but they had to wait on promotion and the chaku-uta is the actual finished product?

I'm probably wrong. Or this whole thing could be like Moments with the sound in the CM was VERY different compared to the actual studio recording. I personally loved the CM version. I think Moments might be a case where the CM and finished song are the most different. Ack! Sorry to get off topic.

Yeah, I understand. I personally like STEP you's CM version better too, it's slower and more rock-ish, instead of sweet pop like the final official version. :yes

I love the official Moments though, it's my fav song. :D Haven't heard the CM version before actually.

Foyuki 12th May 2010 05:29 PM

well I sang a bit with low quality(not TA chakuuta verison)
I don't know if this will do some help
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/rqfsSo4eBn4/

Queen Bee 12th May 2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Misa-chan (Post 2354658)
Yeah, I understand. I personally like STEP you's CM version better too, it's slower and more rock-ish, instead of sweet pop like the final official version. :yes

I love the official Moments though, it's my fav song. :D Haven't heard the CM version before actually.

Oh I love the offical version of Moments, it's my favorite as well. Here is the CM version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pFjEDmduts

I agree with STEP you but I also notice the same thing with Beautiful Fighters and ANGEL'S SONG. All four songs sound very different than their final version. I hope for you that it was just the demo on MOON used in the CM.

Misa-chan 12th May 2010 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumi626 (Post 2354671)
Oh I love the offical version of Moments, it's my favorite as well. Here is the CM version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pFjEDmduts

I agree with STEP you but I also notice the same thing with Beautiful Fighters and ANGEL'S SONG. All four songs sound very different than their final version. I hope for you that it was just the demo on MOON used in the CM.

... WOW!!! :thud

That's a really traditional and -Moments- version of Moments. I :heart it lol!!! Damn, now I can't stop listening to it and thinking of the possibilities lol!! :D

Picaflor 7/4 12th May 2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumi626 (Post 2354671)
I agree with STEP you but I also notice the same thing with Beautiful Fighters and ANGEL'S SONG. All four songs sound very different than their final version. I hope for you that it was just the demo on MOON used in the CM.

you never know. for all that could happen, the song might be entirely different from the commercial version. just look at the commercial version of still alone. its a completely different song.

Queen Bee 12th May 2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2354710)
you never know. for all that could happen, the song might be entirely different from the commercial version. just look at the commercial version of still alone. its a completely different song.

I completely forgot about that CM version! That makes 5 that sound very different than the end result.

truehappiness 12th May 2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Misa-chan (Post 2354704)
... WOW!!! :thud

That's a really traditional and -Moments- version of Moments. I :heart it lol!!! Damn, now I can't stop listening to it and thinking of the possibilities lol!! :D

When that CM initially came out, no one thought Ayu was singing the song.

I was so baffled that people would think that Ayu would be starring in a CM (in 2004, as she did it in 2002 with BREATH's song) that didn't have her singing the song... haha.

Queen Bee 12th May 2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2354736)
When that CM initially came out, no one thought Ayu was singing the song.

I was so baffled that people would think that Ayu would be starring in a CM (in 2004, as she did it in 2002 with BREATH's song) that didn't have her singing the song... haha.

I remember when all that drama was going on! I think you were one of the few that kept saying it was Ayu. I knew from the moment the CM came out it was her as well.

Picaflor 7/4 12th May 2010 08:56 PM

to be clear, you're talking about this video right? to tell you the truth, call me deaf, but I really don't hear that much of a difference from the album version.


love in music 12th May 2010 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2354710)
just look at the commercial version of still alone. its a completely different song.

I didn't even know about that and just looked it up, omg. The CM version sounds SOO much better than the final one.. seriously. I wish the full version sounded like that :(

ayumisrael 12th May 2010 09:05 PM

I usually love both final mixes and CM versions since the CM versions sound like an altenative versions for me and both sound good. =D

ストロボ・EdGE 12th May 2010 09:14 PM

I can't find the CM with Beautiful Fighters in it. I found the Step you one on YT and it's really different.

Wow, that Moments CM... Sorry but her voice there makes me cringe, and Ayu has never ever made me cringe! The way she sang "hana" was :dead2; I dunno.. if I was around at that time I would not have believed that was her.

Picaflor 7/4 12th May 2010 09:20 PM

^ http://www.myvideo.de/watch/4301104/...l_Fighters_30s

i still don't hear that much of a difference in the songs. i think people are exaggerating. besides her voice sounding a bit different, i can't pick out that much of a change. besides, there's way too much talking going on in a lot of these commercials to really be able to compare them.

Queen Bee 12th May 2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2354874)
^ http://www.myvideo.de/watch/4301104/...l_Fighters_30s

i still don't hear that much of a difference in the songs. i think people are exaggerating. besides her voice sounding a bit different, i can't pick out that much of a change. besides, there's way too much talking going on in a lot of these commercials to really be able to compare them.

I know quite a few of the people on the forum at the time who liked the CM version of Beautiful Fighters and didn't like the end result. I don't think people are exaggerating but that's just my opinion. And like truehappiness said, when the CM version on Moments came out a lot of members didn't believe it was her.

love in music 12th May 2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Foyuki (Post 2354661)
well I sang a bit with low quality(not TA chakuuta verison)
I don't know if this will do some help
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/rqfsSo4eBn4/

I don't get it, what is this?

And I still can't hear a difference in the MOON CM clip from the chaku uta.. it's like exactly the same this time lol.

ストロボ・EdGE 12th May 2010 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2354874)
^ http://www.myvideo.de/watch/4301104/...l_Fighters_30s

i still don't hear that much of a difference in the songs. i think people are exaggerating. besides her voice sounding a bit different, i can't pick out that much of a change. besides, there's way too much talking going on in a lot of these commercials to really be able to compare them.

In this one, neither do I, it's just at a slower tempo it seems.

She should release a CM version collection. That'd sell like, 7 copies.

Foyuki 13th May 2010 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2354885)
I don't get it, what is this?

And I still can't hear a difference in the MOON CM clip from the chaku uta.. it's like exactly the same this time lol.

a bit part of verse opening part -_-not the chorus
totally different from the chakuuta ver.

jbrat2219 13th May 2010 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2354854)
to be clear, you're talking about this video right? to tell you the truth, call me deaf, but I really don't hear that much of a difference from the album version.


Good Lord! I hear it, she sounds rough!!! The CM's hot though! I'll just mute it and fantasize~ ;D

truehappiness 13th May 2010 04:22 AM

Foyuki was singing the part of MOON that his friend let him hear when he called him from the concert a few days ago.

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i still don't hear that much of a difference in the songs. i think people are exaggerating. besides her voice sounding a bit different, i can't pick out that much of a change. besides, there's way too much talking going on in a lot of these commercials to really be able to compare them.
I think you just can't hear it because you don't want to hear it, haha. Beautiful Fighters has quite a bit more of a heavy sound compared to the woman-cheer-song version. I thought from the title that it'd be a harder edged song [FIGHTERS] but it ended up being more Beautiful than Fighting-ready, haha.

love in music 13th May 2010 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Foyuki (Post 2355125)
a bit part of verse opening part -_-not the chorus
totally different from the chakuuta ver.

OH I see! I'm liking how it sounds. I can't wait to hear the official version with ayu singing it.

ストロボ・EdGE 13th May 2010 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2355191)
Good Lord! I hear it, she sounds rough!!! The CM's hot though! I'll just mute it and fantasize~ ;D

I know right? :laugh She looks drop dead gorgeous, and it's not often she has done anything involving a man (OK, a foreign one; not you Shu-ya!!) caressing her. But that "music" is so piercing to the ear..

Meat Pao 13th May 2010 07:36 AM

That "HAAAAANAAAA" never fails to crack me up everytime hahahha

AyUta 13th May 2010 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2354854)
to be clear, you're talking about this video right? to tell you the truth, call me deaf, but I really don't hear that much of a difference from the album version.


I definitely hear a difference. Her vocals are not as fine. :yes

Picaflor 7/4 13th May 2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2355192)
I think you just can't hear it because you don't want to hear it, haha. Beautiful Fighters has quite a bit more of a heavy sound compared to the woman-cheer-song version. I thought from the title that it'd be a harder edged song [FIGHTERS] but it ended up being more Beautiful than Fighting-ready, haha.

I think I'm deaf lol. but really comparing commercial from final, I don't think it's that drastic.

dream_ayumix 14th May 2010 12:30 AM

nice! could i listen it ?

love in music 14th May 2010 12:36 AM

If her voice sounded like how it did in that CM in the final version of Moments I totally wouldn't love that song how I love it now. That's my 2nd least favorite CM version of a song (STEP you is the worst for me)

adantatu2 14th May 2010 12:51 AM

^ :yes STEP you CM ver.- is horrible

but sometimes i miss her old voice (example: Moments CM Ver. is the best CM song 4 me)

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 14th May 2010 02:42 AM

Listening to the Moments CM, that was probably the version I heard first. Totally explains why for a short while why I skipped over it. Cause I remember letting it play through and started thinking "why haven't listened to this song before? It's so beautiful!" Now I know :laugh

Tony G 14th May 2010 04:16 PM

So now we have a live rip of the song, what did people think of it?

I really, really like it. Little surprise guitar solo in there as well, wasn't expecting it. Its been really well arranged.

That chorus is epic. The synths that soar with Ayu's vocals.. wow. Perfect.

The only downfall (if this is really one anyway) is that it is a familar sound from Ayu. Not as er.. unique from her other mid-tempo songs as I expected it to be. It does sound more modern though, this formula has been given a glossy makeover. You can tell she's got some new composers/arrangers in there.

But I'm only going to listen to it once or twice, not going to ruin hearing the song in good quality!

noisy_harmony 14th May 2010 04:26 PM

Yes, that song isn't something new from Ayu, but it sounds really nice! I wouldn't say that it sounds like her old works, I think it's similar with her recent songs (it would perfectly suit on R'n'C album). I'm amazed about her voice, she sang it really good!

freedreamer 14th May 2010 04:34 PM

I've a feeling MOON and blossom were made during RNRC period...the vocal style is reminiscent..and I LOVE THAT

Kazeyomi 14th May 2010 04:37 PM

MOON sounds like a classic Ayu song, its good but nothing special imo.
Maybe I'll change my mind with HQ preview :yes

Max_ZZZ 14th May 2010 04:38 PM

listening to it.... WHAT A SICK OPENING!!

wwowowowowo i want to hear it in hq but it sounds so good man ugh i wish this was on the album LOL

labello 14th May 2010 04:45 PM

MOON sounds really nice^^
It really reminds me of classic ayu songs, but it's a bit predictable. Like I knew what kind of part after the guitar solo would come nevertheless I like the song a lot, it's really nice^^

roanmy 14th May 2010 04:51 PM

I am loving MOON! =D

majrakun 14th May 2010 05:06 PM

I love it! The verses sounds so nice!

ILoveGeniuses 14th May 2010 06:02 PM

I've never heard any differences of any song used in a CM compared to the version produced for CD single or album. I dunno. I find the guy talking over the song about the product is too strong for me to really hear the difference.

aura~ 14th May 2010 06:03 PM

OOOhhhh I love MOON!!!!

The start is beautifull!! I love the verses and the bit of rock in it!! The bridge is strange!! I love how it's so soft in the "nee aishiteruu" <3

AND OMG her voice was GREAT!!! she sang so well!!!

I want it in HQ NOOW!!

and this song isn't supposed to be sth new, Ayu herself said it was really melancholic, so it's more like it's gonna be similar to her recent songs!!

I love her "ye yee" befor ethe chorus! XD

love in music 14th May 2010 07:26 PM

I love MOON! It really does sound like it could be on ASFXX, it sounds so, so, dated to me. But it works. It's a nice catchy song from what I can hear in the live.


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