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You sound like she's so lazy and just picking things up from the recycle bin. And she deserves for lower sales just because you dun like the album? I dun mind people criticizing artists works (sometimes I do criticize ayu, hikki, etc.), but your comment is just out of manner. (Sorry if I offend anyone. I dun wanna be rude but his comment is just totally off.) |
Good sales I think the top 3 female studios of 2010 will look like this
1. Namie 2. Koda 3. Ayu IMO thats really good considering this is Ayu's 11th album and her longevity in the industry has been amazing. |
See I think that comment by Dark_hated is funny, lol.
It's like how Ku fans make fun of her ****tyness and it's usually all good in that hood. |
At least she got number one 2 days...but I think that one of the reasons is that NEXT LEVEL was a better album than Rock & roll circus
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Maybe you need to let the album grow on you? |
Yeah I think Masamune mistaken the album w/ the AT09 DVD. :)
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The Ku trolls should go away as no one even cares anymore :innocent |
I hope this weekend boost sales up a little ;)
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kuu doesn't fit the list though, BEST ~third universe~ is also a compilation album so it doesn't fit the list. Without the BEST kuu could be the third. |
this album is having very low sales,deserves many more...u_u
BUY THE ALBUM!!!!!!!!!!!! |
i'm glad she's still #1
the drop was so small !!<3 |
I hope it stays the same tomorrow and doesn't just keep dropping and dropping.
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i hooooope those boxes kick in and give us a nice 200K
i only wish for the album to cross the 300K mark come oooooon |
oh ...no Concert effect?
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Without the perfomance yesterday it could decrease in a half again. As for the tour there wasn't a tour date yesterday, there is today and tomorrow. ^^ |
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Actually I think it's good for today's JPop standards :D
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Ayu is the most important female artist in Japan, Namie hasnīt been so famous past years, and Koda neither, but Ayu has always been #1 in the charts
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hey.. but weekend sales aren't this ones.. those are from friday... and tomorrow we will know saturday sales, right? And the concert is today, not yesterday...
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Moreover, international fans often take every (sexy) little thing as a treasure... we apreciate the oricon charts, the #1, the polls, her records, if she gets a lot of promotion or not, the CM's, if the tour is long or not, every image no matter when it comes from, the prizes, if the merchandising is good or not, if she repeats songs or costumes in the tour, etc etc... And I'm sure japanese fans doesn't care of half of this list... XDD That's our problem... before being an ayufan I didn't care of what an album was selling, or if it was #1 weekly.. in Spain we don't have those things (plus here if an album sells 100K is a HIT!) So... yeah... we can't avoid it.. XD |
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This is one of the most selfish and nonsense comments that I've seen lately coming out of AHS. And it makes me sad to see some people's way of thinking, makes me believe even more that this World is ****ed up. EDIT: I mean, you are asking her EVEN MORE? Are you serious? Do you even ask yourself that much? All the people out there thinking the same way as this individual, Do you ask yourselves as much as you ask others? seriously get a life. This is for the Spaniards that do not understand it in English Spoiler:
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Oricon has lost some of its credibility anyway, due to a scandal that involved a certain firm (I can't remember which) accusing Oricon of inflating Johnny's artist sales and sometimes even decreasing the sales of others to make Johnny no. 1. (There was an example with a Johnny's group and Porno Graffitti, I'll try to find the site."
Many find Soundscan to be more reliable, BUT it doesn't nearly have as many information suppliers so the overall numbers are lower and it's harder to track because they chart every single version seperately. |
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Gods, I wonder what the hell people making comments like that are doing around here. Trolling apparently. |
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Still, no matter what she releases, I like seeing her get #1 and having good sales XD |
well er. she didn't drop much from yesterday, yay! ^^
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I think it's interesting how sales charts in Japan and in America (Billboard) are both strange and kinda flawed in their own way. I'm not sure if people realize that, either! A lot of people don't bother with physical copies of CDs these days unless they specifically want album art or photobooks, maybe the PV DVDs that come with it -- the casual listener (or the less luxurious/can't afford it listener ^^; ) of Ayu probably only wants the "meat" -- her songs and videos. Which they can buy off of iTunes for less than they could get in a store, getting the physical copy of the CD/DVD. To me it makes total sense not to go out and buy a CD when you can get the same thing on iTunes. Easy access, cheaper than the in store purchase.... Photobooks can only persuade some people for so long, and I don't think the average music-listener/buyer really cares all that much for them in the end. (I'm talking about people who aren't like us here on AHS, who just want the songs and PVs and don't really care how pretty Ayu is in this shoot or what clothes she wears in that set XD) I think if physical CDs want to learn how to survive in this shifting to digital market, they'll either have to make something reaaaaaaaally nice/exclusive for physical releases or just learn to bow out quietly, with dignity. All in all, it's important to bear in mind that Oricon isn't a measure of Ayu's album's success :yes |
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But going back to what truhappiness said, I guess I need to let the album grow on me. Hell, it took two years for 'Guilty' to grow on me and I thought it was her worst album ever. Now it's one of my top favorite ayu albums. Oh well, we shall see. For now I'll blast 'Next Level' in my car. ;) |
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Ayu's sales are fine. If you think sales figures are low then you have no idea what state record sales in Japan are in.
To put into perspective, Tohoshinki's Best Selection album hasn't even reached 600,000 in sales (not shipment) yet and that's even when fans know it's possibly going to be their last album as a group of 5. Anyway I'm not surprised. Every time Ayu releases an album/single, there will always be pple who start to diss her using her sales figures as "proof". So standard behaviour it's already old. |
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It's just certainly nice seeing her at the top of the charts, but the actual figure doesn't mean very much. Her sales are considered low right now, and yet she's still got a decent amount of distance from whoever is #2 |
yay it didn't drop that much!!
hope it will stay around there tomorrow too :)~~~~ i don't think oricon is accurate, cannot be they account for EVERY SINGLE CD sold right? Japan is sooooo big. |
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Sales are still looking good IMO! and she's still #1
Keep on going Ayu! |
Still being number one says that sales are certainly still good.
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@AngelSenshi ,o.o so i am not caring for sales anymore since it do not account for digital buying...ayu sure have sold much more than this..if that was the case..
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there's a definite line these days between super high sellers, really good sellers and then just normal sellers that can't reach 100,000... I think Ayu's sales are fine!! Actually I don't really care.... as long as I still get to buy her CD's!! lol |
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And yes, with me I'm happy as long as I can buy the album and listen to her great music. |
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A song from PAST<FUTURE called "the meaning of us" has been doing great despite the album being over 4 months old, due to it being the theme of a bee tv drama. Had Namie released it as a re-cut single it would of done amazing. At the beginning of the month the song was still in the top 30 Chaku-uta charts. It's hard to have "hits" when you never release singles that are properly promoted. According to you "It's not her music that's truly popular.", all the people buying her latest album and tour dvd would probably disagree with you :yes Having just a good image will not take you as far as Namie has come in the past 3 years. |
^ lol i wouldn't even bother. he has a bad reputation in regards to namie (just ask anyone on jpm)
currently namie is more popular than ayu in every single way ok? that could all change in a matter of months though. the end also i don't mean to be a downer for this itunes discussion but...itunes isn't that popular in japan. there are a lot of other more popular digital stores that people use over itunes. |
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Anyhow, alot of speculation in this thread so of course I'm going to add mine; based on what your saying and the history of Namie's comeback, seems to me that her current success is totally attributed to marketing ala Koda Kumi during the 12 singles era. That Vidal Sasson contract was the best thing Namie could have ever done. I'm also one of the ones who just cant get into RnR Circus. It flows well, but I just can't find alot of it memorable. Its almost like GUILTY part 2. I wish she'd take her time with the next album and make a Secret, Duty or LoveAppears part 2. |
what is with the comparisons :no ayu is ayu.
no other artist has come close to what she's already achieved but you don't see anyone remembering that when new sale figures arrive. she's had her peak. she's passed it. she's 12 years old in the music industry and she's still selling this much? i actually applaud her. the only decline she's ever faced is the normal one that all artists face. for a solo female artist, and with the amount of singles and album(s) she releases yearly, ayu pretty much reigns over the others with her sales altogether. proof can be seen in end of year charts. nuff said. bringing koda, namie (who both have completely different career stories to ayu) or anyone else in this is pointless. |
^ merci ^__^ that is needed
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What I adore about Kuu & Ayu is that they don't chase after sales, their true artists. Namie and Utada make generic fluffy pop music that sells IMHO.
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Obviously you can't. No one can. So all of this comparison is pointless, really >_< |
I just think people should stop bringing other artists to this thread. We all have different taste of music in some degrees, so no need to bring an artist here to trash ayu, or worship ayu as the goddess while dissing the others.
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do you think Ayu takes care about sales ?
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she has been in the business for over 11 years, most of her stuff is #1 anyways. ayu debuted every album at #1 isn't that an amazing achivement? most artists can only dream of a longevity like that! it's not like avex kicks ayu from the label if she happens to not catch #1. :rolleyes |
12 years. XD
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koda kumi - driving hits koda kumi - driving hits 2 koda kumi - out works & collab best koda kumi - BEST ~third universe~ PLUS new album packed in 1 not to mention all of the singles she releases and.. ayumi hamasaki - A BEST 2 ayumi hamasaki - A COMPLETE (just a year later) ayumi hamasaki - NEXT LEVEL (4 versions) ayumi hamasaki - Rule/Sparkle (3 versions) ayumi hamasaki - You were.../BALLAD (3 versions) |
They are all pop musicians... they all have their amount of generic music and useless releases to milk their fans...
Nothing wrong here... |
^^ Agreed.
As much as I love both of them, Ayu and Kuu (especially Kuu, lol x_X) have been milked. It may not necessarily be their fault - I don't see either of them caring as much as other artists - but either way, it happened. And that goes for almost everybody under avex. It's just how it is, lol. avex finds something that sells, and they squeeze to get every last cent they can. But I do agree with Nackar, about how they're true artists. Even if Ayu was shoved in people's faces for years, and even if Kuu's a release *****, when you read their interviews and see them perform, you can tell they're different than a lot of people. I love that about them. Although, I don't necessarily agree that Hikaru isn't a true artist. You can tell, if anything, she loves to write music, and it's often genuine... Well, her Japanese stuff is, at least. I can agree that both Utada's English work and Namie's music is produced for the masses, though. >_< On the other hand, both Ayumi and Kumi have had some mass-produced songs, too. It's just a pop star thing, really. :shrug EDIT: I put all that crap about Kumi, thinking I was in the Kumi thread. XD Lol...... I tried to veer back on topic, but ended up flying way in the other direction because it wasn't even the right thread. Oh my. :headache |
^ Agreed. Plus I wouldn't go so far as to say either artist is individually responsible for the idea of a "best of/compilation" album. Even in the west, the labels and record companies are the ones to put together those ideas, right? For a guaranteed hit. Compilation albums = $$$ (or ¥¥¥ as the case may be), so instead of blaming Kuu or Ayu for best of/obviously ploys for sales boosts, blame the label~ But even "blame" is too strong a word because all musicians are, to the label, a means to an end. That "end" is profit and making money. To survive a label is going to do whatever they can to ensure sales and profit. That's just a fact of the business life.
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Stop comparing AYU with other singers... this is a thread to have the number of AYU's sales...not to compare her with others...here should be info. about AYU...only... If you want to make comparisons...go to another, more appropriate thread ^^ I got lost and had to go to the first page for the 4th day sales...thing that I really don't like doing... I like to read peoples thoughts, whether or not I agree with them... Anyways...I see AYU is still #1!! I'm so proud!! :D |
Could someone explain to me why these are good sales? I'm not saying they're bad or I'm disappointed, but how is this album comparing with other major female artists? I can't remember what Kumi's UNIVERSE sold...
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^ Well, when you say "major", the only solo females that come to mind are, of course, Ayu, Kuu and Amuro. Now, Namie's sales are a little over half a million, in case you don't know, and that's considered very amazing....which is sad. :( Kuu's sales are also considered pretty good, but UNIVERSE has only sold about 350k, I believe. -_- Oh, and Kaela Kimura isn't as big as those three, but her best album sold 'wonderfully', at about 400k, if I remember correctly. And considering Rock'n'Roll Circus is already in the top 25 for the year, well..... :headache
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Solo females + girls groups
Koda Kumi UNIVERSE 221,887 (FIRST WEEK) Namie Amuro PAST<FUTURE 330,742 (FIRST WEEK) aiko BABY 135,541 (FIRST WEEK) JUJU JUJU 47,903 (FIRST WEEK) AKB48 Kamikyokutachi 294,627 (FIRST WEEK) BoA IDENTITY 37,606 (FIRST WEEK) Perfume ⊿ 210,576 (FIRST WEEK) alan my life 11,748 (FIRST WEEK) Ai Otsuka LOVE LETTER 104,232 (FIRST WEEK) Kaela Kimura 5years 215,974 (FIRST WEeK) Ayu sells pretty well and you know alan sells much less, but i'm her fan too |
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Oh and by the way, some of you need to seriously get a life. That is all. :P |
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i wonder how long it will take OR when for oricon to implement digital downloads (chaku-uta, recochoku, itunes) onto single/album/dvd sales..i know billboard in U.S mixes physical & digital sales together :P |
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Just for a bit of a comparison of Ayu's first weeks~
RAINBOW - 1,016,000 A BALLADS - 474,600 Memorial address - 524,028 MY STORY - 574,321 (miss)understood - 654,000 (2 weeks total) Secret - 386,000 A BEST 2 -BLACK/WHITE- - 470,057 / 475,284 GUILTY - 432,113 (2 weeks total) A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~ - 538,876 NEXT LEVEL - 240,810 Rock'n'Roll Circus - 180-190k? |
I hope a sunday miracle!!!!!!!!!!
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Also, a lot of those names aren't solos, they're groups. And like somebody else mentioned, a few are also bests. So take that into consideration, too. And damn, I forgot to mention aiko! >_<' She's the only other solo worth mentioning, really... |
It's nice to see Ayu on #1 and all but I don't see what the big deal is.. Imo the most important is that she's still singing and she's still active. She's my favorite singer and not only that.. her as a person, her sales really means nothing to me. As long as she's famous to me she's famous forever.
Also, like many has mentioned... Japanese is more digital now... they LOVE their phones and they will buy from iTunes/mu-mo it's just been more popular thing now in Japan to buy songs digitally instead of the physical CDs. I would say unless they are really hardcore fans that they probably won't buy the CDs... I buy CDs and even if I could get from mu-mo or iTunes I'd rather have the CD b/c I'm just like that... I like having her poster and photobooks haha now if I didn't care about those.. I'd be like the rest and buy digitally LOL btw.. I used to not like RnR album.. now I love it.. well basically these three songs.. count down, last links and meaning of love :D |
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JUJU's physical sales are tragic. Isn't she the Chaku Uta monster? I'm going to pray for some Avex magic for the weekend sales. |
The Meaning of Us will probably make a bit of a dent in the yearly charts if it keeps ranking the way it does for the rest of the year.
(Ayu's Days PV was on the chaku movie chart basically from December 2008 to December 2009... #1 in the chaku movie category! Haha. I wish we could see how much it sold...) |
Not to be mean or anything but ayu will never release another "Duty", "I am..." or whatever album you like best. Just like us, ayu grows & changes over the years. She can't be stuck in the same era forever. So I think the most you can hope for is ayu to release a new album that you'll love as much as your favorite ones.
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^That's true, ayu is growing and changing, her music is not the same (but i like it year by year), and
I wonder if the new album of YUI can sells more than RnRC. her last singles sells more than 100k |
^ maybe yes , maybe no ?
cos her last album I LOVED YESTERDAY did not sold as well as CAN'T BUY MY LOVE then again I LOVED YESTERDAY was released some 2 years back so anything goes & the CD + DVD's of her singles which're deemed limited editions are always out of print pretty fast on online sites like for to Mother , the CD + DVD's already out of print on CDJapan when I checked last night |
YUI!!! That's the other girl I forgot about! She's definitely making a come back I hear. But I guess 100k-200k is the new norm now.
Btw, Ayu's doing very well digitally. Does iTunes release the figures on how many copies were downloaded? Of the whole album I mean, it has to be at least 8 or more tracks no? |
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wow even BEST albums are not selling very well so ayu is doing quite ok with just a normal album~ if theres an A BALLADS 2 or something.....
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Yeah I'm unsure if this album will ever fully "grow" on me. I think after my first listen, I've grown to like it less and less. It's like, if it weren't by Ayu, I wouldn't like it at all. It's just my fandom giving it a chance.
Seriously, at this point I am actually contemplating my idea of boycotting Ayu for an entire year. By boycott I mean, not listening to any of the singles this next year. No previews either. No PV shoots as well. That way when the next album arrives, I'll have ALL NEW MATERIAL! It would be one hell of a project and I'm curious to actually try it out! Another thing that really effects the way people rank albums is weather or not they heard the singles prior to the album... Like if some people just discovered Ayu and then went back and downloaded albums, their opinions and the effect the album would have on them would be completely different than the rest. I used to think I was disappointed in (miss)understood, but as time has gone by I begin to view the album as a whole, singles and all. |
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is not like everyone was gonna love the album anyway
GUILTY was hated and loved at the same time... same thing happened with NEXT LEVEL, and with all albums too so I'm even more excited now, seeing all the good feedback from RnRC as well as the negative ones, because yeah, I'm one of the ones that haven't listened to the album xD I will get my copy on monday (hopefully) *o* |
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ugh I was trying to emphasize more on her latest works but okay xD I mean there's no way we could even think on comparing her latest albums/singles/etc with what she was doing back then. And you could think everyone loves those albums, but there's people out there in the universe that hates them so much xD and that surprised me. |
I guess the people out there in the universe might not be the ayu fans :P hehe. I was in a ayu newsgroup back then, and it was actually very hard to find a person hate something from ayu.
Anywayz.. any mid-day sales figure for today?? |
well..anybody knows the mid-day sales figure? anyone?
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*2 *7,144 UVER *3 *4,203 神曲 If this is for real, then her sales went up for today! |
oh no no no -,-
no no no =,= no effect -<-///// I thought today would be over 20k |
Why would today be over 20,000?
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Because of the TOUR effect!!
and weekend effect BUT it hasn't been better than I thought |
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*1 *,558,605 **1,231 PAST<FUTURE / 安室奈美恵 09/12/16 *2 *,524,281 **7,494 BEST SELECTION 2010 / 東方神起 10/02/17 *3 *,507,012 **4,060 ハジマリノウタ / いきものがかり 09/12/23 *4 *,464,707 **8,595 ファンキーモンキーベイビーズBEST / FUNKY MONKEY BABYS 10/02/10 *5 *,426,813 **3,717 5years / 木村カエラ 10/02/03 *6 *,368,782 **1,476 愛すべき未来へ / EXILE 09/12/02 累計1,265,877 *7 *,354,840 **1,993 BEST~third universe~ & 8th AL "UNIVERSE" / 倖田來未 10/02/03 *8 *,294,627 294,627 神曲たち / AKB48 10/04/07 *9 *,284,664 ***,551 あの・・・こんなんできましたケド。 / 遊助 09/12/16 10 *,226,578 **5,500 All the BEST! 1999-2009 / 嵐 09/08/19 累計1,659,359 11 *,182,054 **1,593 リサイタル / ヒルクライム 10/01/13 12 *,173,612 *20,050 ONE PIECE MEMORIAL BEST / Various Artists 10/03/17 <--Ayu is now under this ONE PIECE MEMORIAL BEST in the yearlies 13 *,169,196 ***,934 Every Best Singles ~COMPLETE~ / Every Little Thing 09/12/23 14 *,167,765 **1,916 スポーツ / 東京事変 10/02/24 15 *,165,055 *29,514 BABY / aiko 10/03/31 16 *,158,930 ***,419 What's flumpool!? / flumpool 09/12/23 17 *,156,627 **3,738 うれしくって抱きあうよ / YUKI 10/03/10 18 *,155,833 **1,872 いままでのA面、B面ですと!? / GReeeeN 09/11/25 累計532,257 19 *,149,542 **6,803 The Fame Monster / Lady Gaga 09/11/18 累計207,972 20 *,142,745 ***,*** Olympos / LANDS 10/01/13 |
^^ Hmmmn, true.. but the weekend effect has gone since.. two years ago? (for all artists). I dunno why tho. Back then it's almost a guarantee that the weekend sales would get a boost up from the horrible Friday sales.
@TH: for a second, I thought that number 16,737 was the figure w/o multiplier... :no :P |
hopefully sales rise u_u
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ネクレベ ロクローサカス
月 火 *99,200 *85,142 水 *48,318 *42,288 木 *24,935 *19,693 金 *17,208 *15,297 土 *18,089 *16,737 日 *20,167 ━━━━━━━━━━━━ 計 227,917 179,157 週 240,810 累 379,989 NEXT LEVEL vs. Rock'n'Roll Circus |
It still has the potential to break 200K on the first week :yes.
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^i hope =)
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I'm actually kind of scared that the first press handwritten lyric sheets are going to be stuck in stores at this rate... aie.~
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Thinking about that it's kinda funny... At the same time I feel sorry for ayu. She has spent her time on writing the lyrics.
And I feel sorry for us... none of us got those precious handwritten lyric sheets... :cry |
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I do not know why Japanese people do not buy the album,with the amount of gifts that brings u_u
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They are buying it, but with 400,000 first press copies, it seems like they'll be gotten by random purchasers later on months from now~~
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^yes...poor ayu
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Because they dun really care? A handwritten sheet is pretty useless unless you are her fan. Let's supposed Namie wrote lyric sheets during BEST FICTION, and I got one, I would be quite happy, but not like I would put it in a safe.
Yeah.. if I could get a lyric sheet from ayu or hikki, I would definitely frame it, then hide it in a place that it will never be stolen :P. |
She deserves success with this album. She put so much heart into it and has, and is doing, so much.
I bought 3 copies altogether, and I urge any of you guys (who can manage it) to buy an extra copy! Why not buy one as a gift to a friend or family member? Get some more new fans out of it and help boost the sales a bit. As a group we can do something about this! :) |
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