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truehappiness 29th May 2010 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Misa-chan (Post 2372356)
forgiveness says forgive the haters. :)

forgiveness is all about forgiving the design team for their weird job with the cover, haha. I think if it wasn't so Ayu-in-Wonderland, she'd have sold at least 20k more, haha.

toniayu 29th May 2010 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2371870)
Yeah I preordered all 4 on the first day they were available, I'm sure we'll get the posters. Don't worry.

many thanks ^^

ILoveGeniuses 29th May 2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kagami (Post 2372388)
I adore forgiveness. I think it's one of her most unique and powerful ballads.


Same here. Loved the single and song ever since I first got it. Plus, although the cover was kinda different I found it to be breath taking. So was the PV. It's my favorite and what I personally consider to be her most unique and amazing ballad PV. I even had the poster.... Can't remember where I put it. Really should hang it up.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 29th May 2010 11:47 AM

I'm GUILTY :cry bought another version of the single :thud

now, I pre-ordered 3 versions xD

ILoveGeniuses 29th May 2010 11:52 AM

^which one is it u havent ordered yet? just curious. Btw, i love your siggy. makes me laugh every time.

toniayu 29th May 2010 12:46 PM

you think that the cd+dvd editions come in a deluxe box similar days/green or mirrorcle world?

ストロボ・EdGE 29th May 2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by toniayu (Post 2372571)
you think that the cd+dvd editions come in a deluxe box similar days/green or mirrorcle world?

I think when those singles were announced, along with the official track list, etc, the fact that it'd be in a deluxe package was mentioned, I think.

Foyuki 29th May 2010 01:00 PM

today I asked for this too
I hope it is not a deluxe one

ILoveGeniuses 29th May 2010 01:11 PM

I don't think it will be in those again... Weren't those done that way cause of her 10th anniversary?

Teyla 29th May 2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Foyuki (Post 2372580)
I hope it is not a deluxe one

Why? I'd kill for another deluxe :P

Foyuki 29th May 2010 01:23 PM

^
for me it's a bit hard to open and store =_=
and no responce now.(avex taiwan)
I think they will answer next Monday
cause they don't work on weekends

SURREAL__RAINBOW 29th May 2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SoldierofSilence (Post 2372533)
^which one is it u havent ordered yet? just curious. Btw, i love your siggy. makes me laugh every time.

the only one i havent pre-ordered is blossom/MOON CD+DVD :)

and lol thanks xD makes me laugh too :lech

Pieces_of_SEVEN 29th May 2010 03:56 PM

I actually love forgiveness!

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Originally Posted by pop909 (Post 2372366)
Ahhh!!! I want the B3 poster so bad but I want to just wait for the fricken 50th single...since itll supposedly be only 2 months after that.

This single releases 3 days after my birthday so any1 can send me the poster for free :D

I'll be getting four posters...sure! :)

GRACE 29th May 2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by toniayu (Post 2372571)
you think that the cd+dvd editions come in a deluxe box similar days/green or mirrorcle world?

those were done specifically because it was in 2008, and they were symbolically representing the original 8 inch singles. These won't have long cases, I can guarantee it.

SunshineSlayer 29th May 2010 06:24 PM

I'm excited for these new single projects. But I hope that Blossom is really good, because I wasn't that impressed with Moon when I heard it live; thought it was kind of boring.

Cyberbird 29th May 2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Foyuki (Post 2372364)
I'm still waiting for Rock'n'Roll Circus DVD-Audio =_=

I just wondering why? this format is more than dead :dead2
avex hasn't release another DVD–Audio since years and don't seem to do so again

Pieces_of_SEVEN 29th May 2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2372903)
I'm excited for these new single projects. But I hope that Blossom is really good, because I wasn't that impressed with Moon when I heard it live; thought it was kind of boring.

I sort of agree, but I think the studio version will be much better. It sounded really good in the CM.

jbrat2219 29th May 2010 11:08 PM

I just had a thought.... How HUGE would the album have to be to fit all these songs on it? I mean if all of the singles are at least double a-sides, that's 6 songs right there. She'd have to have a winter or new year album and God willing, she'll do at least 15 tracks again? 6 singles, 6 new songs 3 interludes? Maybe we'll get another 16 tack album? :O

hidekirby 30th May 2010 02:23 AM

I don't think we can predict the length of an upcoming album just with the number of singles and the songs on them... She had plenty of songs in 2003 and we ended up having a mini album...
I think everything can happen. It is just a matter of schedule and choice.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 30th May 2010 03:13 AM

^^ I agree, it's way too soon for album prediction.
I want another 17 track album like MY STORY ... that was amazing..

Ranma Matsuri 30th May 2010 03:22 AM

I kinda want a long album but then I kinda don't... my favorites by her are MA, RAINBOW, and Duty which weren't long compared to other albums, lol. But then, I'm greedy and want lots of new Ayu material hehehe. :D

LacusClyne 30th May 2010 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2372903)
I'm excited for these new single projects. But I hope that Blossom is really good, because I wasn't that impressed with Moon when I heard it live; thought it was kind of boring.

ha ha, you must be the only who heard it live at the concert and don't like it. Somehow, when i was at the yokohama show, my eyes got a little teary although i can understand 50% of it.

i'm already addicted to it, been repeating the live recorded version despite the poor quality.

primavera♥ 30th May 2010 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ranma Matsuri (Post 2373242)
I kinda want a long album but then I kinda don't... my favorites by her are MA, RAINBOW, and Duty which weren't long compared to other albums, lol. But then, I'm greedy and want lots of new Ayu material hehehe. :D

i want the album as long as possible. albums like my story really do feel like well . . .stories. and i find when she makes longer albums they feel like a real story is told. that could be a written novel

however her shorter albums do feel sufficient with their length so it doesnt really matter much. all her albums tell something to me


anyway im still really excited for this. July feels to far T.T MOON sounds gorgeous already with poor quality (and im not the type to praise ballads until several listens). . .blossom seems so mellow. perfect.

love in music 30th May 2010 03:47 AM

I wouldn't mind the album being long at all as long as the quality of the music doesn't suffer. I felt like MY STORY included quite a bit of filler songs that don't stick with me, I don't want that happening again.

Ranma Matsuri 30th May 2010 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2373255)
I wouldn't mind the album being long at all as long as the quality of the music doesn't suffer. I felt like MY STORY included quite a bit of filler songs that don't stick with me, I don't want that happening again.

This is basically what I was about to respond with, lol. I do love how My Story actually does tell a story with it's music but I felt she could've achieved the same effect without the filler. Half of the middle section and the tracks between Inspire and Humming 7/4 seemed completely unnecessary and the tracks started sounding alike and running into each other. Same with Loveappears.

On the other hand, there's I am... (which is steadily growing on me) and m(u) that are pretty long but manage to have a lot of diverse and consistently good tracks so I guess it really all just depends on the quality of the music. Whether the album is long or short, I just want good Ayu music to enjoy. :P

SunshineSlayer 30th May 2010 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LacusClyne (Post 2373247)
ha ha, you must be the only who heard it live at the concert and don't like it. Somehow, when i was at the yokohama show, my eyes got a little teary although i can understand 50% of it.

i'm already addicted to it, been repeating the live recorded version despite the poor quality.

I don't think its bad, but just thought it was OK. I couldn't really remember what it sounded like a few minutes after the first listen, so it didn't really grab me.

truehappiness 30th May 2010 08:11 AM

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I couldn't really remember what it sounded like a few minutes after the first listen, so it didn't really grab me.
I think a lot of Ayu's music is like that. Rock'n'Roll Circus is -really- like that, haha.

But it grows on you tremendously after a while. yasashii uta wo kimi ni ageru yoooo~

Tony G 30th May 2010 08:17 AM

I've never associated ayu with 'filler' tracks. She's one of the few artists that puts just as much into the album tracks as she does into the single tracks. Often, the album tracks are better!

tokyoxjapanxfan 30th May 2010 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2372903)
I'm excited for these new single projects. But I hope that Blossom is really good, because I wasn't that impressed with Moon when I heard it live; thought it was kind of boring.

i agree.

but i was bored with it with just the cell phone preview.
I thought when I saw it live my opinion would change, but it's still not that interesting.

it's an average song for me :)

Though when the PV comes out, it could make me like it more than I do now :)

njanjayrp 30th May 2010 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony G (Post 2373413)
I've never associated ayu with 'filler' tracks. She's one of the few artists that puts just as much into the album tracks as she does into the single tracks. Often, the album tracks are better!

Yeah, she is among the rare artists that makes the album tracks as good and at times better than her singles.

As for the MOON at first it was just ok, after a couple of tries the song grows on you and I pretty much love it.

Zeke. 30th May 2010 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony G (Post 2373413)
I've never associated ayu with 'filler' tracks. She's one of the few artists that puts just as much into the album tracks as she does into the single tracks. Often, the album tracks are better!

My thoughts exactly. I'm always way more excited for Ayu's albums than her singles. Not only because we get a larger amount of songs upon that release, but mostly because there's always pretty much a gaurentee that she'll have some bomb-ass album tracks!

my name's WOMEN, About You, Ladies Night, JEWEL, Microphone, 1LOVE, momentum ... I could go on and on.

ILoveGeniuses 30th May 2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2373430)
My thoughts exactly. I'm always way more excited for Ayu's albums than her singles. Not only because we get a larger amount of songs upon that release, but mostly because there's always pretty much a gaurentee that she'll have some bomb-ass album tracks!

my name's WOMEN, About You, Ladies Night, JEWEL, Microphone, 1LOVE, momentum ... I could go on and on.

You two have just already said my thoughts exactly!! I totally love all of Ayu's songs! And I even think some are under-appreciated at times. She's my greatest inspiration, and her words and actions has helped me through some of the hardest experiences in my life.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 30th May 2010 12:19 PM

lol funny how we haven't even got this single out and we are all talking about the new album!! :laugh


Should we have a thread to see how many of us are getting this single???

Aderianu 30th May 2010 01:13 PM

Does TA member get posters from mu-mo? or only postcard and uchiwa?

nanakopy87 30th May 2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LostHeaven (Post 2373541)
Does TA member get posters from mu-mo? or only postcard and uchiwa?

TA member will get poster and uchiwa

Misa-chan 30th May 2010 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nanakopy87 (Post 2373543)
TA member will get poster and uchiwa

:shrug No news about posters yet.

ILoveGeniuses 30th May 2010 01:47 PM

I never heard that thing about the uchiwa TA FC thing. I have a Kumi one and i rarely use it for anything. Usually just hangs on the hook on my wall, so I don't see such the big deal about them... Maybe just a Japanese custom thing I'm guessing.

Still, I'd love to see how the new Moon/blossom FC one looks. Bet its pretty.

Mirrorcle Monster 30th May 2010 01:56 PM

I wanna see something this week!!!

AyusakiFan 30th May 2010 02:24 PM

How soon do you think the jackets for the singles will be available before the release? I'm having a hard time deciding which CD I want so I think it's going to come down to which jacket I like the best.

ILoveGeniuses 30th May 2010 02:39 PM

^I find ayu really likes to wait before showing off the covers... so there might not be anything for another 2 weeks.

kinix 30th May 2010 03:12 PM

Yesasia already updated the info with posters included~
Any yeap price is raised again!
Gd thing I've pre ordered before they raise it with the posters!

ILoveGeniuses 30th May 2010 03:31 PM

YA's added the posters to my order. They're giving me four of the same one since I ordered all 4 editions. Oh, and bit off-topic, but I just won the "&" poster on ebay. :D

AyUmIXx 30th May 2010 03:49 PM

yay..so happy that they're giving out posters to the 1st press....
it could somehow exchange with the serial number or something~~

Ranma Matsuri 30th May 2010 03:49 PM

Awesome. Congratulations. They have so many posters on Ebay, I want a Secret, MW and G/D one so bad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2373430)
My thoughts exactly. I'm always way more excited for Ayu's albums than her singles. Not only because we get a larger amount of songs upon that release, but mostly because there's always pretty much a gaurentee that she'll have some bomb-ass album tracks!

my name's WOMEN, About You, Ladies Night, JEWEL, Microphone, 1LOVE, momentum ... I could go on and on.

Oh, she does have some amazing album tracks that I often love way more than the singles (Secret and RAINBOW <333 being prime examples). Like I said it's pretty much dependant on the quality of music as LA and MS are pretty much the only albums she's had that I felt had a lot of filler. I would love a long album if the tracks are as incredible as the ones on Secret, I am... and m(u). :love

Maemi 30th May 2010 05:19 PM

Guys where are the pics that were posted in this or the previous thread? Someone said they were the previews of the new covers or sth ...

Keiichi_JPU 30th May 2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2373524)
Should we have a thread to see how many of us are getting this single???

Good one, just made it :)

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101489

dreamland2.0 30th May 2010 06:08 PM

hmmm so far yesasia hasn't given me a poster yet :(

!Lawi! 30th May 2010 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Maemi (Post 2373760)
Guys where are the pics that were posted in this or the previous thread? Someone said they were the previews of the new covers or sth ...

I guess you're talking of these pics : http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101400

No one knows if they will be MOON/blossom's covers anyway ^^

jbrat2219 30th May 2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony G (Post 2373413)
I've never associated ayu with 'filler' tracks. She's one of the few artists that puts just as much into the album tracks as she does into the single tracks. Often, the album tracks are better!

Yeah! A lot of the time I do prefer her album tracks to her singles. And since we got so many new album tracks with RnRC, it just makes the album seem more amazing!

SURREAL__RAINBOW 31st May 2010 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 2373791)

awesome! thanks :)


I just posted in there xD

ストロボ・EdGE 31st May 2010 06:04 AM

We need some new news to talk about..

Aderianu 31st May 2010 09:06 AM

~6 weeks before release
too early for news

Foyuki 31st May 2010 09:14 AM

I think cover will be on air between June 3rd~10th
(guess the from import date)

Mirrorcle Monster 31st May 2010 09:46 AM

Hope u´re right...

ayumisrael 31st May 2010 12:27 PM

Btw her new hair reminds me of UNITE!. XD

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 31st May 2010 02:34 PM

o.O

UNITE! ????

it's not similar~~~ ==a
and waaayyyy different...

it's a long bob, not short-shaggy...

Maemi 31st May 2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by !Lawi! (Post 2373825)
I guess you're talking of these pics : http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101400

No one knows if they will be MOON/blossom's covers anyway ^^

Yeah, that's it, thanks^^ she's so pretty there :yes

!Lawi! 31st May 2010 08:15 PM

She is ! Let's pray for great covers !

Cherry Dynamite 31st May 2010 08:36 PM

I can't wait to see the covers!

Polyrhythm 31st May 2010 09:09 PM

*prays for dark haired Ayu

.....ŕ la Koda Kumi in her MOON.

love in music 31st May 2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyrhythm (Post 2374885)
*prays for dark haired Ayu

.....ŕ la Koda Kumi in her MOON.

omg she better not have that same awful hairstyle.
The color would be fine, but I don't think she'll do it for this single.

spanishfan 31st May 2010 09:36 PM

Anyone could tell my why DVD versions are Limited editions? Does it mean we'll couldn't get DVD versions in the future or that the're specials (like...I don't know how it's said, these paper box instead plastic box for CD's) and when they'll get sold out avex will release a normal version?
Or it's still unknown?
Basically I wanna know what I have extra if I get DVD version instead CD only version, of course not counting the DVD xD

I'm a little lost with this single -_-

Pieces_of_SEVEN 31st May 2010 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry Dynamite (Post 2374842)
I can't wait to see the covers!

Me too!

njanjayrp 31st May 2010 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanishfan (Post 2374924)
Anyone could tell my why DVD versions are Limited editions? Does it mean we'll couldn't get DVD versions in the future or that the're specials (like...I don't know how it's said, these paper box instead plastic box for CD's) and when they'll get sold out avex will release a normal version?
Or it's still unknown?
Basically I wanna know what I have extra if I get DVD version instead CD only version, of course not counting the DVD xD

I'm a little lost with this single -_-

Nothing.

truehappiness 31st May 2010 10:40 PM

The DVD versions aren't really limited... I don't really know why CDJapan has them listed as such.

love in music 31st May 2010 10:53 PM

I'm seriously dying for the moL piano version and Last Links orchestra version. I keep listening to the songs and imagining how amazing they're going to sound in those versions.

njanjayrp 31st May 2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2375032)
I'm seriously dying for the moL piano version and Last Links orchestra version. I keep listening to the songs and imagining how amazing they're going to sound in those versions.


So am I, especially meaning of Love~

nanakopy87 1st June 2010 01:26 AM

so far,i've seen 2 sites saying CD+DVD is limited edition :95music (taiwan site) and cdjapan.
other sitelike cdjapan,yesasia,tower records etc,doesn't state this single's CD+DVD is limited edition.maybe we'll know if this is limited edition after the tracklist and cover is announced?

ILoveGeniuses 1st June 2010 01:28 AM

^the tracklists are posted on YA now.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 1st June 2010 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by identity (Post 2375032)
I'm seriously dying for the moL piano version and Last Links orchestra version. I keep listening to the songs and imagining how amazing they're going to sound in those versions.

Really? I'm actually anticipating the Microphone and Don't look back remixes more.

nanakopy87 1st June 2010 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SoldierofSilence (Post 2375182)
^the tracklists are posted on YA now.

lol.i see.i forgotten that they had announced the tracklist on the first day of the pre-order XD
i really hope this is not a limited edition version because i plan to wait for the cover is out,only see if i want to buy or not. :(

ILoveGeniuses 1st June 2010 01:36 AM

well heres the tracklists according to YA for Moon/blossom versions

CD Only

01. MOON (Original mix)
02. blossom (Original mix)
03. Microphone (Remix)
04. Last Links (Orchestra ver.)
05. MOON (Original mix -Instrumental-)
06. blossom (Original mix -Instrumental-)

CD+DVD

01. MOON (Original mix)
02. blossom (Original mix)
03. Microphone (Remix)
04. MOON (Original mix -Instrumental-)
05. blossom (Original mix -Instrumental-)

DVD
01. MOON (video clip)
02. blossom (video clip)
03. MOON (making clip)

So basically, on the CD+DVD they just remove the "Last links orchestra ver" on the CD and give you the dvd with the two PVs and one making-of clip. Her PVs and Making-Of Clips always end up on her albums anyways, so if you were gonna just pick one I'd recommend the CD Only.

love in music 1st June 2010 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2375186)
Really? I'm actually anticipating the Microphone and Don't look back remixes more.

I'm looking forward to those too, but with piano/orchestra versions I just know I'm going to love them - there's not a single piano/orchestra version from a single that I don't like.. but with remixes sometimes they turn out really weird and I don't care for them.

Kazeyomi 1st June 2010 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nanakopy87 (Post 2375191)
lol.i see.i forgotten that they had announced the tracklist on the first day of the pre-order XD
i really hope this is not a limited edition version because i plan to wait for the cover is out,only see if i want to buy or not. :(

I don't think there will be a limited edition of this single.
Even though I don't remember when they announced the alternate cover of Yw/BALLAD's first press.

nanakopy87 1st June 2010 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koshka (Post 2375194)
I don't think there will be a limited edition of this single.
Even though I don't remember when they announced the alternate cover of Yw/BALLAD's first press.

i really hope so.
i'm afraid AVEX will not think so.they might make it limited edition because this is the 3 single project thingy.they want to make it as special as possible.

hopefully its me who think too much XD

ILoveGeniuses 1st June 2010 01:41 AM

ok seriously, just came to mind. many of ayu's older singles had a lot of remixes on them. So why is it she doesnt put the remixes and orchestra and piano versions of all these onto just one edition instead of splitting them up amongst 4?

love in music 1st June 2010 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoldierofSilence (Post 2375199)
ok seriously, just came to mind. many of ayu's older singles had a lot of remixes on them. So why is it she doesnt put the remixes and orchestra and piano versions of all these onto just one edition instead of splitting them up amongst 4?

To make people buy them all lol

nanakopy87 1st June 2010 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoldierofSilence (Post 2375199)
ok seriously, just came to mind. many of ayu's older singles had a lot of remixes on them. So why is it she doesnt put the remixes and orchestra and piano versions of all these onto just one edition instead of splitting them up amongst 4?

so that they can gain more profit!they did this since you were.../BALLAD?

ILoveGeniuses 1st June 2010 01:44 AM

^actually they started earlier than that. wasnt Mirrorcle World the first one?

nanakopy87 1st June 2010 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SoldierofSilence (Post 2375209)
^actually they started earlier than that. wasnt Mirrorcle World the first one?

oh ya.i totally forgotten about mirrorcle world :P
this is why i don't like to buy her singles.i rather download it.if not because you were.../BALLAD has the alternative cover,i think i will not buy it :P

ILoveGeniuses 1st June 2010 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanakopy87 (Post 2375210)
oh ya.i totally forgotten about mirrorcle world :P
this is why i don't like to buy her singles.i rather download it.if not because you were.../BALLAD has the alternative cover,i think i will not buy it :P

Ayu's one of the two artists I buy absolutely every single, album, dvd etc. :P Yeah I know, she could've gotten rich off of just me from the start.:P

waterballoon 1st June 2010 03:17 AM

I'm looking forward the most to Don't look back remix and Last Links orchestra mix. The moL piano version.... well can imagine how it would sound like already ^^

rakeru 1st June 2010 03:26 AM

I hope they don't hold out on the covers for too long. I need to see them to decide which version I'll buy!

jimex289 1st June 2010 05:24 AM

The countdown to 50...I have a feeling her 50th will see something very big.

fantaisie.sign 1st June 2010 06:04 AM

Oops, I'm late to the conversation yet again...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimex289
I have a feeling her 50th will see something very big.

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver
I hope 50 just shatters them all

This is the one thing that worries me about the 50th single: having very high expectations. While it's great to be excited for a possible single that's several months away, I personally think that's it's not good to maintain such high hopes for months at a time because it makes disappointment almost inevitable. :( I've seen that time and time again on AHS. Looking back over her past singles, Ayu seems to have found her niche and might not change her sound *too* much for that milestone release. For some weird reason, I keep thinking it'll contain a song similar to "Who..." in terms of sound and lyrics. Whatever it is, Avex will heavily promote it without a doubt, painting Shibuya with Ayumi Hamasaki posters lol.

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver
Although forgiveness was terrible for the 30th single. Especially since they celebrated the 30th with a special live. I mean... forgiveness…?

I was an AHS member back when "forgiveness" was released, and I honestly do not remember a lot of hype behind that single. My memory might be terribly faulty, but I do remember all the mixed opinions on the song and people frantically trying to figure out the Engrish at the end of the song lol. I like "forgiveness" dearly and thought it deserved to be the 30th single because of its rich, sonorous arrangement and other characteristics that distinguished it from Ayu's preceding ballads. It really doesn't deserve all the "hate" it gets, especially when you look at the song itself from a technical standpoint.

Again my memory is probably faulty, but the only ballad that Avex hyped like crazy was "HEAVEN" which they compared to "My Heart Will Go On" back in 2005. Of course, part of that was due to the release of Shinobi which used "HEAVEN" as its theme song.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony G
I've never associated ayu with 'filler' tracks. She's one of the few artists that puts just as much into the album tracks as she does into the single tracks. Often, the album tracks are better!

I wholeheartedly agree with this! Like SoldierofSilence said, some of her album tracks are definitely underappreciated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by identity
I'm seriously dying for the moL piano version and Last Links orchestra version.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN
Really? I'm actually anticipating the Microphone and Don't look back remixes more.

I'm anticipating them all, but the "meaning of Love" and "Last Links" remixes excite me a little bit more because Ayu's classical remixes are incredible and turn out amazingly well. The dance/electronic/trance/techno/breakbeat remixes, on the other hand, are very hit or miss; they're either exceptionally well done or sadly terrible. My expectations are already super high for the "Don't Look Back" remix because I love that song so gosh darn much, meaning I'll likely be disappointed. :( I keep wondering how a MSTRKRFT remix of "Don't Look Back" would sound if they ever made one. Now *that* would be EPIC! :D

maaya 1st June 2010 07:19 AM

Very bad news for ayu, arashi is gonna release their single on 7/7 and we all know that their sell is so good also in the second week.
Is their a chance that she will get no2 in the first day?

majrakun 1st June 2010 07:31 AM

If Ayu's gonna postpone the release date after this, then something fishy is going on. I don't want her to move the release date, but I don't want her to lose too D:

njanjayrp 1st June 2010 08:03 AM

Ah bad news I guess. I wish AVEX wouldn't push the release date for once and fought for the #1, though I guess the odds are on their side...

Crystal_Ageha 1st June 2010 08:04 AM

Oh. ****. :(

waterballoon 1st June 2010 08:14 AM

oh dear. bye MOON, i'll only be getting ur leak or something a week later :(

love in music 1st June 2010 08:22 AM

UGH.

Tasked 1st June 2010 08:28 AM

actually. arashi doesn't sell good in their second week.. Their first week is usually extreeemely high, but the 2nd week is not.. Ayu can beat that.

Last few arashi singles
542,334 - 64,632
431,685 - 42,302
342,070 - 33,313

Arashi rarely gets #1 for 2 weeks with a single

Nackar_91 1st June 2010 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rody! (Post 2375575)
actually. arashi doesn't sell good in their second week.. Their first week is usually extreeemely high, but the 2nd week is not.. Ayu can beat that.

Last few arashi singles
542,334 - 64,632
431,685 - 42,302
342,070 - 33,313

Arashi rarely gets #1 for 2 weeks with a single

Exactly. And although record sale are dropping I sincerely doubt Ayu's first week numbers would drop so significantly she'd get below THAT line!

TITANIC 1st June 2010 08:37 AM

I doubt Arashi can beat on their 2nd week and obvioulsy Ayu will not sell more than 90K for the first week. im pretty sure

Bigtop 1st June 2010 08:39 AM

Yes, I'm totally concerned about that - remember when ikimono-gakari's Nostalgia was outsold by Arashi's Troublemaker, and the fact was that Nostalgia was only on their first week while Troublemaker was only on their second week?

This is quite concerning... :no

Any possible competition on July 21st, however, if there are "contingency" plans? I just tweeted to "ayunews" if they're planning some kind of play here...

But earlier I already did some analysis that should complement the one earlier here...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rody! (Post 2375575)
actually. arashi doesn't sell good in their second week.. Their first week is usually extreeemely high, but the 2nd week is not.. Ayu can beat that.

Last few arashi singles
542,334 - 64,632
431,685 - 42,302
342,070 - 33,313

Arashi rarely gets #1 for 2 weeks with a single

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rody! (Post 2375575)
actually. arashi doesn't sell good in their second week.. Their first week is usually extreeemely high, but the 2nd week is not.. Ayu can beat that.

Last few arashi singles
542,334 - 64,632
431,685 - 42,302
342,070 - 33,313

Arashi rarely gets #1 for 2 weeks with a single

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2375562)
I might need some analysis here, but first of all, the thing is that if fans are expecting for a possible album, it might be coming up later on maybe in August or such, as usually if this is just a single song in a single and that's all, and maybe before then there will be an upcoming album that the single is actually in the album, this single might just be considered by myself "useless"!

Here's how my analysis goes among "summer singles" (any Arashi singles released in July or August)
  • Typhoon Generation (Pony Canyon) - #3
  • Jidai (Pony Canyon - last one under that label!) - #1
  • Hitomi no Naka no Galaxy / Hero - #1
  • Aozora Pedal - #1, 154,832 (remember - this was the time that Arashi was not as popular as it is today!)
  • One Love - #1, 313,976
  • Everything - #1, 342,070

And when we take a look at Troublemaker's second week sales: #2, 64,632

What about Ayu's second week sales? Remember, her last single "You were... / BALLAD" had a double week in their first week, but I decided to put it here for reference; the last one that was regular was last year's "Sunrise / Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~" - here's the stats:
  • Sunrise / Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~ - first week: #1, 75,352 (I don't know if this is quite concerning...)
  • You were... / BALLAD - double week as first week: #1, 103,351

I don't know if this is quite concerning, but I think Ayu can make it through. The fact that Arashi's song is quite a bit slower tempo compared to the "Troublemaker" and "Monster" singles released earlier this year, as well as greater (earlier) planning for Ayu's 48th (MOON/blossom), 49th and 50th singles (which can equate that people are starting to buy this such item all because they want that preview for the 49th single!), I hope Ayu can get #1 there. But already Arashi's single is sold out for pre-order, while Ayu's still not, though with four choices and the first press releases are still available, I think she can make it, and there's still time (longer time) that the first press can sell out.

At Arashi's pace for summer singles on the other hand, they don't produce such 500,000+ sales, but they're still going to be great hits for summer; however, Ayu's much more planned and I hope her fans will be really crazy for this single. (And I hope both Ayu and Arashi come on Music Station at the same time for the summer!)

And already, this would be Arashi's 5th single since not releasing an album (except All the BEST! 1999-2009, which did not include "Everything"), and five singles are MORE than enough to fit in an album! (Except there's only five A-sides for Arashi, and generally Arashi does NOT release B-sides of their singles into their albums; Ayu only released two singles that would be in the Rock'n'Roll Circus album, but both of the singles were double A-sides, and as always, Ayu's B-sides are also included in her albums; as such, "RED LINE ~for TA~" was included in the RnRC album!)

Also, I have another thing to say: Are all of Arashi's works (along with other Johnny's artists such as Hey! Say! JUMP and KAT-TUN) available on iTunes (including Japan) or not? And if not, why?

There's still a month left, and there still have time... Arashi already have released five singles that are not assigned to an album yet, and if sometime during the month of June that they are releasing a new album, well this could dampen Arashi's sales a bit, while Ayu does not have plans for another album - they're already planning on their 49th and 50th singles...

And, I mean, here's the thing:
Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 2375280)
31st single - To be free
Release date - 7th July 2010


Single release from Arashi featuring catchy pop tune and instrumental for two tracks total. Includes a bonus DVD featuring music video and making-of. *Unless otherwise indicated, DVDs are region-2 encoded (Japan, Europe, and Middle East), and carry no subtitles.

tracklist
1. [CD] To be free
2. [CD] To be free (Original Kraoke)
3. [DVD] To be free (Music Video & Making-of)

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=JACA-5227

O_O

What ...... & just 1 song only ? eh eh eh eh eh & it only be released in CD + DVD edition too hmmm

I smell a new album after this

ONLY ONE SONG FOR A SINGLE!? :thud

Come on, Arashi, you can do something better than that - or are they intentionally doing something like that because they want to root for Ayu on trying to chase for the streak?

I hope some of Arashi's fans are also Ayu fans...

maaya 1st June 2010 08:46 AM

Well, in Arashi newest single "monster" their managed to make #1 in 4 weeks.

I think for first day Ayu will win but for the whole week, kinda impossible.

Tasked 1st June 2010 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2375584)
Yes, I'm totally concerned about that - remember when ikimono-gakari's Nostalgia was outsold by Arashi's Troublemaker, and the fact was that Nostalgia was only on their first week while Troublemaker was only on their second week?


are you kidding? Nostalgia only sold 26,009 copies in their first week. That's not so difficult to beat for Arashi in their second week. Plus, Nostalgia was #3, not #2... Ayu will most definitely sell more than 26k :P

Bigtop 1st June 2010 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rody! (Post 2375595)
are you kidding? Nostalgia only sold 26,009 copies in their first week. That's not so difficult to beat for Arashi in their second week. Plus, Nostalgia was #3, not #2... Ayu will most definitely sell more than 26k :P

Of course, Arashi was much more popular than ikimono-gakari... The thing that on that week Nostalgia was #3 while Arashi was #2 surely fits that "Nostalgia was out-sold by Troublemaker" quote - didn't you look CAREFULLY?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2375584)
Yes, I'm totally concerned about that - remember when ikimono-gakari's Nostalgia was outsold by Arashi's Troublemaker, and the fact was that Nostalgia was only on their first week while Troublemaker was only on their second week?


Tasked 1st June 2010 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2375599)
Of course, Arashi was much more popular than ikimono-gakari... The thing that on that week Nostalgia was #3 while Arashi was #2 surely fits that "Nostalgia was out-sold by Troublemaker" quote - didn't you look CAREFULLY?

yes, but it has absolutely nothing to do with Ayu :p... I mean, we can name a few other artists that sold less than 30k in their first week and thus were outsold by arashi :p Ayu is not one of those artists

Nackar_91 1st June 2010 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2375599)
Of course, Arashi was much more popular than ikimono-gakari... The thing that on that week Nostalgia was #3 while Arashi was #2 surely fits that "Nostalgia was out-sold by Troublemaker" quote - didn't you look CAREFULLY?

Seriously?

Even Troublemaker, ARASHI'S BEST SELLING SINGLE SINCE THEIR DEBUT IN 1999, only sold 64k in its second week. Ayumi's lowest first week sales so far are somewhere around 75k. Even if Arashi manages to reach that number again for the second week (which I strongly doubt since it's only one song), Ayu would still have to have a STRONG drop in sales to become no. 2

Honestly, I think there's no reason to be worried at all.


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