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pommy48 6th March 2011 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 2646177)
^Not to be the pooper but... isn't it kind of... not good for a best album? Since those typically sell most of the time several times more than a studio album, at least in Japan.

I thought at the very least 75-100(?)K in the long run would've been good (for her) and expected.

I meant good for alan standards

The only kind of promotion she's really getting now are radio and live events~ So it's pretty good considering how she attracted 700+ new fans yesterday

TeamAyu2004 6th March 2011 05:05 AM

^ yeah, i love alan but hasnt all 2 of her albums sold under like 20K?? 100K would be way out of the blue.

But isn't she too new to have a best of yet??

For that matter what is it with artist have two or three albums and then coming out with a best off. You shouldnt have enough tracks to form a best of... >.>

ストロボ・EdGE 6th March 2011 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyrhythm (Post 2646180)
alan was never that popular in the first place though....why would you expect her to sell 75-100k out of the blue? Her only real hit was Kuon no Kawa after all...so its already a miracle she's charting at all....underpromoted and all.

Not "out of the blue"; didn't both of her albums sell around 50K? I was just figuring a compilation album would sell more than that.
EDIT: Apparently 20K O__O

In any case, it should, it deserves to sell more, but in any case I hope she makes enough to have her bigger room.

I'm addicted to Kaze ni mukau hana lately.

pommy48 6th March 2011 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2646192)
^ yeah, i love alan but hasnt all 2 of her albums sold under like 20K?? 100K would be way out of the blue.

But isn't she too new to have a best of yet??

For that matter what is it with artist have two or three albums and then coming out with a best off. You shouldnt have enough tracks to form a best of... >.>

Lol considering how 1st album had 7 singles :laugh

FIRSTKLAS 6th March 2011 06:44 AM

^I think it's Voice of EARTH that really paved the way for this best album. The thing has so many singles that if Avex had waited for alan to release another studio album first, her best album *still* would've been 2 CDs. :P

pommy48 6th March 2011 09:26 AM

alan is #14 today :D The mini-live yesterday really helped lol

OogoeDiamond 6th March 2011 10:18 AM

lets hope best will be a way to somekind of rise in popularity?

Midori-chan 6th March 2011 10:40 AM

alan deserves so much better. I wish, more people would recognise her talent and start supporting her by buying her singles and albums.
But hey, the "Best of" is doing quite well in the charts so let's be happy for alan!!! :yes

I can't wait until my copy arrives.
I ordered at "YesAsia", because I always have to pay soooooooo much money when I buy stuff at "CDJapan" (shipping + customs duty cost more than the album itself! -.-'')!!

adantatu2 6th March 2011 10:44 PM

yay!! i'm happy with the peaks, probably she is gonna be #15 or #16 like her 2 studio albums,Voice of EARTH was #15 and my life #16, both sold around 11k the first week.
if this happen, her sales are gonna be steady

GREENsora 6th March 2011 10:44 PM

YAYY, I got a reply from alan on Twitter! made my day :yes

TeamAyu2004 6th March 2011 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pommy48 (Post 2646205)
Lol considering how 1st album had 7 singles :laugh

Singles don't equal hits... unless this is something like a single best of album... which would be okay to gather all her singles, but still.. only two albums...

at least they packaged it with a mini album!

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRSTKLAS (Post 2646228)
^I think it's Voice of EARTH that really paved the way for this best album. The thing has so many singles that if Avex had waited for alan to release another studio album first, her best album *still* would've been 2 CDs. :P

I still dont like how the album people do things.. lol.. i just don't think you can have enough good tracks for a best of.
But I guess musically you can. its jsut not a very good verity... with only two albums and released not even a year apart...

AyumiAi 6th March 2011 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2646665)
Singles don't equal hits... unless this is something like a single best of album... which would be okay to gather all her singles, but still.. only two albums...

at least they packaged it with a mini album!



I still dont like how the album people do things.. lol.. i just don't think you can have enough good tracks for a best of.
But I guess musically you can. its jsut not a very good verity... with only two albums and released not even a year apart...

yes i agree with you, if she had released another album THEN a best it would have been more successful, not only because there would have been more variety but her popularity would have increasedwith time no? XP
at least its doing well on the charts :D

SURREAL__RAINBOW 7th March 2011 02:26 AM

alan is working on her 15th single already!!

YAYAYAY!!!! :love

I cannot wait!!!!


Info by pommy in http://alan-international.forumotion.com/forum

Bigtop 7th March 2011 04:23 AM

15th single already?! That's quite fast!

NintendoHTF1242 7th March 2011 04:49 AM

^ This is alan we're talking about. This is no surprise.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 7th March 2011 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2646778)
15th single already?! That's quite fast!


where were you the past 3+ years since ashita e no sanka :thud



lol anyway I'm super excited!!! I wonder if they will want to try something new and fresh or stick to the ballads... I hope for more songs like Diamond and Over the clouds :yes

pommy48 7th March 2011 06:07 AM

I would kill...a lot of people to get another Over the clouds...or BRAVE! :thud

SURREAL__RAINBOW 7th March 2011 06:11 AM

OMG BRAVE too!

And for ballads, something like ashita e no sanka would just kill me :inlove

Bigtop 7th March 2011 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2646822)
where were you the past 3+ years since ashita e no sanka :thud

Nowhere, sorry... I'm kind of considering alan as a new artist to my portfolio, though I have heard about her, just not the songs...

SURREAL__RAINBOW 7th March 2011 06:49 AM

Nah I should be sorry, I just assume everybody knows everything about her and her music instantly when they pop into this thread lol

pommy48 7th March 2011 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2646832)
Nowhere, sorry... I'm kind of considering alan as a new artist to my portfolio, though I have heard about her, just not the songs...

Lol well just know that alan has releases after releases...

Like 2 weeks after one single was released, we get info about a new song she recorded lol:thud

y_nathz 7th March 2011 08:23 AM

a new single ? omg please let it be something upbeat like diamond/over the clouds :luv2

AyumiAi 7th March 2011 03:44 PM

Anyone know her chart position for today? 崩

roanmy 7th March 2011 07:44 PM

19.

Aderianu 7th March 2011 09:48 PM

she work so hard

NintendoHTF1242 7th March 2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pommy48 (Post 2646837)
Lol well just know that alan has releases after releases...

Like 2 weeks after one single was released, we get info about a new song she recorded lol:thud

More like 2 days rofl

I hope it's unique like BRAVE or something. Her recent releases have been lackluster.

AyUta 7th March 2011 11:58 PM

Horray! :heart I hope it's upbeat too >.<

adantatu2 8th March 2011 12:09 AM

something like Diamond / Over the clouds would be amazing !!!
the epic ballad and the upbeat song !!!
or maybe another cute pop song like Swear or Koko ni Iru (don't hate me, but Swear is amazing)

Midori-chan 8th March 2011 12:14 AM

A new alan-single?!
Wahhhhh~~, I'm superhappy now! :heart

I want something powerful like "Ashita e no Sanka"! :love

Aozora 8th March 2011 04:41 AM

Omg I support another BRAVE <3. Or another Sora Uta. Something along those lines. I feel like that's such a unique and upbeat sound but she does it so seldom :(.

AyumiAi 8th March 2011 04:08 PM

Xp I hope for another sad and beautiful ballad like kanashimi or ballad :p nut an upbeat song would be an interesting change :D

octocoffee 8th March 2011 04:25 PM

haha, as long as alan sticks to her vocal-showcasing style, I'm good. I would love it if she did something along the lines of Sennen no Niji. I think it was a really great upbeat song that worked well with her voice.

Or if she ever decided to do something like Hitomi Shimatani's Destiny ~Taiyou no Hana~... I wouldn't mind that either :P

glowlydays 8th March 2011 06:27 PM

don't know if it was already posted, but weekly album sales:
#15 8,385 alan

Mirrorcle Monster 8th March 2011 06:29 PM

Worse than expected but not too bad

roanmy 8th March 2011 07:02 PM

Allthough it's not really bad position-wise, sales are REALLY low. I do hope she'll chart for a long time, but I doubt it. =/

xLuna&1LOVE 8th March 2011 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by roanmy (Post 2648136)
Allthough it's not really bad position-wise, sales are REALLY low. I do hope she'll chart for a long time, but I doubt it. =/

Maybe this sounds harsh and I totally wish for alan to get more popularity and have higher ranks - she totally deserves that with her talent, but I actually like it that she's not a popular pop artist. I mean, she has beautiful expressive music and is not really producing #1-hits and I would not even like it if she turns into a real pop diva (which will never happen, I guess). I like her just the way she is: small with beautiful expressive and alternative music and that's why I am still impressed with her sales. I still think these sales are pretty high, for someone as alan.
But it's not about my opinion at all.

Cannot wait to hear her new single!

milky_way 8th March 2011 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by octocoffee (Post 2648046)
Or if she ever decided to do something like Hitomi Shimatani's Destiny ~Taiyou no Hana~... I wouldn't mind that either :P

I would love this :luv2 :yes

Bigtop 8th March 2011 10:38 PM

Well, 8,385...what about her past sales? I'm not sure how I would compare this...

NintendoHTF1242 8th March 2011 11:43 PM

I would like to see alan do something like Hitomi's Destiny (because that song was damn amazing when I heard it back on her collection) but at the same time, I don't think she'd be able to pull it off. It'd be interesting though.

adantatu2 9th March 2011 12:11 AM

The peak is good, the sales aren't really good, but is enough for get more new japanese music, yay!!!

AyuGAME 9th March 2011 01:23 AM

8.385 is not bad...
i hope it has longevity on the chart, and maybe sold 15k in the end...

AyumiAi 10th March 2011 04:32 PM

I think it's gold enough for vex to keep her :3 I don't know if vex doesn't understand that if they don't promote artists like Alan they will never sell a lot y.y go Alan keep fighting :)

koumori 10th March 2011 05:08 PM

I'm not too surprised on the sales; the price was too high to tempt those who would buy a Best album to try out a new artist, and the Limited version was only really for those hardcore alan fans. It's a shame, if they'd done the CD & CD&DVD versions prices lower I'm sure that more people would be inclined to try her out, if anything.

But 8k is still good, I'm happy for her. I do hope for a longer charting life for this Best though.

glowlydays 10th March 2011 05:14 PM

#11 11,056 Voice of EARTH
#16 11,748 my life

somebody asked for previous sales... ; ) these are first weeks

SURREAL__RAINBOW 10th March 2011 10:27 PM

she needs to have live events every single day

adantatu2 11th March 2011 12:13 AM

Voice of EARTH was #15 the first week, the highest peak was #10 on the daily ranks.
my life was #16 the first week, the highest peak was #8 the first day.
maybe the sales of this best aren't great, but the peak is good for alan, she isn't dropping a lot on the charts, #15 in the first week and #11 the first day is really good.

zellyx 11th March 2011 01:30 AM

hello~ I posted something under asian music download requests but haven't heard back..
I'm wondering, what has alan released after Lan Se in Mandarin...? I'm learning Mandarin and I'd love her Mandarin songs also :)

SURREAL__RAINBOW 11th March 2011 05:33 AM

I don't have an answer for that sorry :( I don't learn many of her Chinese songs' names U_U

And I got my copy of the limited edition from mumo today! :D

The poster is beautiful and everything else too!! :inlove totally worth buying!!


Yesasia posted the HK press for the album + some new goods related to the album:


http://www.yesasia.com/global/alan/0...7&bt=47&sb=138



Please try to support alan!!

pommy48 11th March 2011 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zellyx (Post 2649479)
hello~ I posted something under asian music download requests but haven't heard back..
I'm wondering, what has alan released after Lan Se in Mandarin...? I'm learning Mandarin and I'd love her Mandarin songs also :)

Hu Huan 呼喚 and Tears of Sakura 櫻花的眼淚

Hu Huan is ECHOES' Chinese version and Tears of Sakura is eternal love's Chinese version~

SURREAL__RAINBOW 11th March 2011 09:06 AM

alan is okay after the earthquake, she confirmed it herself in English to a fan through Twitter.

I think she said she was in rehearsal when the earthquake stroke or something.

AyUta 11th March 2011 03:29 PM

Oh, good to hear!

Bigtop 11th March 2011 04:26 PM

We're glad she's fine, but let's see how the situation goes...

AyumiAi 11th March 2011 06:51 PM

I know some people might disagree with me but think about it 8000 people love alans music enough to purchase it I thimk while it's not the millions akb48 is selling that's still a lot of people, if I were an artist, knowing that I have 1000 people who love my music would be enough to make me so happy so I think Alan is happy, and we should not co,pare her sales too much to other artists xp

zellyx 12th March 2011 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pommy48 (Post 2649600)
Hu Huan 呼喚 and Tears of Sakura 櫻花的眼淚

Hu Huan is ECHOES' Chinese version and Tears of Sakura is eternal love's Chinese version~

谢谢!!

GREENsora 12th March 2011 12:07 AM

Glad to know that alan's alright!

pommy48 12th March 2011 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2649981)
I know some people might disagree with me but think about it 8000 people love alans music enough to purchase it I thimk while it's not the millions akb48 is selling that's still a lot of people, if I were an artist, knowing that I have 1000 people who love my music would be enough to make me so happy so I think Alan is happy, and we should not co,pare her sales too much to other artists xp

She said that she knows her music is not mainstream, but she's keep on making music for those that love her~

AyumiAi 12th March 2011 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pommy48 (Post 2650164)
She said that she knows her music is not mainstream, but she's keep on making music for those that love her~

Yes :D which is why I love Alan!

OogoeDiamond 12th March 2011 05:43 PM

are Hu Huan and Ying Hua De Yan Lei out in full? If they are can someone upload them?

octocoffee 13th March 2011 03:41 AM

I know that Hu Huan is available on AI :) I'm pretty sure that Ying Hua De Yan Lei is there as well.

I wonder how alan must be feeling right now... Although she wasn't present at the Sichuan earthquake (though my memory is rather fuzzy on the details), this is the second earthquake that's seriously affected her in such a short time, only a few years...

pommy48 13th March 2011 03:52 AM

Everything is available at AI (and oh....there's a never-before-released song of alan's on AI too~ It was recorded before she debuted with Avex...everyone should go check it out!)

alan's family lives in Sichuan, but it didn't hit her family~ She immediately called her parents after this earthquake

AyumiAi 13th March 2011 04:47 PM

Poor Alan she's so strong, another thing that makes me love her

SURREAL__RAINBOW 16th March 2011 02:02 AM

according to alan, she's going back to China due to the nuclear problems and probabilities of a second potential earthquake.

Info thanks to NJDevils from AI.

Aderianu 16th March 2011 07:30 AM

^ That is right decision

Bigtop 16th March 2011 08:16 AM

Good decision there. She'd better go back to her hometown to stay safe. I wished if Ayu went to LA with her new husband Mannie for the same thing...

AyumiAi 16th March 2011 05:10 PM

Smart move alan I'm prayed though that it will have been a useless precaution and nothing bad actually happens

AyUta 16th March 2011 06:14 PM

Oh good. :)

octocoffee 17th March 2011 05:28 AM

I'm sure her family's really worried and they'll be glad to have her close again. I think it's a good idea. I sincerely hope there isn't a second earthquake though.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 17th March 2011 05:38 AM

I hope she spends some really nice time with her family, after these horrible events, I bet is like deja vu for her after her hometown had an earthquake a couple of years ago :(


I wonder if her company isn't going to waste any time and make her work with her Chinese music for China/Taiwan/HK fans??

adantatu2 17th March 2011 06:03 AM

probably she is gonna do something in China, maybe she is gonna end her 3rd chinese album (she has already Hu Huan and the chinese version of eternal love).
but i hope she can rest and stay with her family some days (or weeks)

i hope she can make a charity song like Shiawase no Kane again for help to japan

SURREAL__RAINBOW 17th March 2011 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adantatu2 (Post 2653788)
probably she is gonna do something in China, maybe she is gonna end her 3rd chinese album (she has already Hu Huan and the chinese version of eternal love).
but i hope she can rest and stay with her family some days (or weeks)

i hope she can make a charity song like Shiawase no Kane again for help to japan

I hope so too, and I have a feeling that she will :)

GREENsora 17th March 2011 08:24 AM

Smart move for alan to go back to her hometown, her family must be so worried!

pommy48 17th March 2011 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2653783)
I hope she spends some really nice time with her family, after these horrible events, I bet is like deja vu for her after her hometown had an earthquake a couple of years ago :(


I wonder if her company isn't going to waste any time and make her work with her Chinese music for China/Taiwan/HK fans??

Well after the promotion for JAPAN PREMIUM BEST, she had some Chinese work she has to do, so I guess they're just moving her schedule up~

And I don't think she'll have much time to spend with her family...she's not on vacation~ She went to a press conference today and had a magazine photoshoot :tired

glowlydays 19th March 2011 08:13 PM

second week sales of JAPAN PREMIUM BEST & MORE
57 1,572 alan

total: 9,957 copies

so she'll hit 10k and, sadly, that's gonna be it... ; (

adantatu2 20th March 2011 06:49 AM

probably it's true, but at least 10k isn't really bad.
thanks for the weekly rank

AyumiAi 20th March 2011 06:12 PM

Pommy sorry to sound ignorant, but is alan popular back in China?
>.<

pommy48 20th March 2011 10:01 PM

Pretty popular~ She has pretty good sales in China

Just compared her followers on Twitter and Weibo (Chinese version of Twitter)

Twitter: 13,105
Weibo: 154,325

Midori-chan 20th March 2011 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glowlydays (Post 2655321)
second week sales of JAPAN PREMIUM BEST & MORE
57 1,572 alan

total: 9,957 copies

so she'll hit 10k and, sadly, that's gonna be it... ; (

Mhm, personally I think that the Japanese don't think too much about buying CDs or stuff like that right now!


And I don't think that the sales are so bad.
alan knows that the kind of music she makes isn't mainstream and therefore she will never sell as much as Ayu, Namie, Kumi and others.

BUT I LOVE her music and I also love it that she will not change herself or her music only to make more money!

OogoeDiamond 21st March 2011 04:53 PM

they dont think about buying CD's? look at EXILE sales from earthquake week - 300k

Bigtop 21st March 2011 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pommy48 (Post 2655885)
Pretty popular~ She has pretty good sales in China

Just compared her followers on Twitter and Weibo (Chinese version of Twitter)

Twitter: 13,105
Weibo: 154,325

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midori-chan (Post 2655933)
Mhm, personally I think that the Japanese don't think too much about buying CDs or stuff like that right now!


And I don't think that the sales are so bad.
alan knows that the kind of music she makes isn't mainstream and therefore she will never sell as much as Ayu, Namie, Kumi and others.

BUT I LOVE her music and I also love it that she will not change herself or her music only to make more money!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aitakute (Post 2656244)
they dont think about buying CD's? look at EXILE sales from earthquake week - 300k

I agree that alan is more different. What type is she - ballads? The ones that are mainstream does all kinds of musical types - not just ballads, but also popish and pop-rock styles...

adantatu2 22nd March 2011 02:17 AM

^the music of alan is like the music of Hitomi Shimatani and Mika Nakashima, they do a lot of ballads, but sometimes they released something upbeat.
alan released a lot of ballads for historical movies or series, and she has some upbeat songs like Over the clouds, or Swear, but her best sales are with the ballads, and maybe for that reason she isn't releasing more upbeat songs, but she could try release something different in the future

AyumiAi 22nd March 2011 03:56 AM

Thanks for the info about her popularity! :) Glad to know she's appreciated in her home country X)

Midori-chan 22nd March 2011 01:42 PM

@Aitakute: Okay, then allow me to quote myself:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midori-chan (Post 2655933)
alan knows that the kind of music she makes isn't mainstream and therefore she will never sell as much as Ayu, Namie, Kumi and others.


OogoeDiamond 23rd March 2011 01:24 PM

I am not saying that alan sells worst that other cause I nothing new that she is selling in a medium level because of its genre
I am just saying that she (or cd in japan at all ) did sell low because of an earthquake

pommy48 23rd March 2011 10:36 PM

well she didn't get the chance to promote some more~ she had like 3 TV performances that had to be rescheduled due to the earthquake

she was supposed to have a mini live the day after the earthquake, so even though she still wouldn't get #1, but at least she could have sold more

AyumiAi 24th March 2011 12:12 AM

^ yea that's true >.<

ストロボ・EdGE 24th March 2011 02:04 AM

I've been devouring her music the past several weeks and catching up with singles I ignored like Kaze ni mukau hana. It's so good it hurts.

pommy48 24th March 2011 02:10 AM

Haha what other songs did you ignore before?

ストロボ・EdGE 25th March 2011 03:23 AM

Basically anything that wasn't an A side and the more recent singles. I love how her album tracks are just as good and sometimes better than her singles. Nobody knows but me has the most plays so far~

pommy48 25th March 2011 05:25 AM

:lech I love it when her b-sides are just as good/even better than the a-sides

adantatu2 26th March 2011 02:11 AM

Since Swear, the b-sides are part of my favourites, they are in the same level as a-sides.
(Beauty, Koko ni Iru & Namonaki Tane are so AMAZING, seriously they could be an amazing single without the a-side)

adantatu2 31st March 2011 01:24 AM

WEEK #4
Peak...............129
Sales..............699
Total Sales.....11,340

Thanks to led0658@tieba


yay!!! one month on the Oricon charts

AyumiAi 31st March 2011 03:08 AM

congratz alan :)

Bigtop 31st March 2011 05:06 AM

Over 10,000's quite good for her!

AyuGAME 31st March 2011 09:03 AM

11k not bad...15k looks possible...

Luja. 31st March 2011 06:29 PM

I just watched the Voice of EARTH DVD again, and can't stop thinking how much her music has changed. Am I the only one? Of course she is still producing high quality music, and it isn't mainstream, but somehow the songs of her first album sounded very different to the ones on "my life" and what came after that.

waterballoon 31st March 2011 06:47 PM

^ gotta say, her songs have taken a turn to sound more mainstream, while still maintaining that unique "alan" sound

dreamland2.0 1st April 2011 12:16 AM

I think Kaze and Kanashimi plus Echoes and eternal love all sound like the 'alan style'. I think her music has stayed consistent. Consistently awesome!

adantatu2 2nd April 2011 01:47 AM

^i think the same, her "mainstream singles" are Swear and Diamond / Over the clouds, and that's all, she keep with the ballads and sometimes she does something different and upbeat like Lost Child, Venus Flower or Call My Name.

Bigtop 2nd April 2011 03:49 AM

I kind of like ballads a bit more. So it seems that alan's more into ballads than, let's say, Ayu?

freedreamer 2nd April 2011 04:13 AM

I think people are sort of missing that more Oriental and Tibetan feel. ECHOES has recaptured that, and I'm really happy with it. I do sense that her melodies are becoming more mainstream but the arrangement and stuff are still almost the same :)


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