Japanese market works this way:

Single 1, Single 2, Single 3, Album including 3 previously released singles

Korean market works this way:

Mini-album, Repackaged album (Mini-album with more songs)

and sometimes they release a digital single before releasing the mini-album

ikr!
what's the point of them saying that SNSD is their role model but before that they said bout their bodies are better than SNSD lmao.
probably their company is the one who wanted them to have SNSD's HOOT concept and Super 7 members disliked the idea or something. LOLS.

these girls need to look at the mirror before saying things bout others.
look at what they performed in the golden melody awards this year, i donno how could the host let them lipsynch to someone's song using SNSD's vocals and they had the head microphones on them. LOLS. definitely so different SNSD, usually when they sing other people's songs, they wouldn't lipsynch using other people's vocals but they re-record it or they sing it live.

corikaru, what happened to the girls back in 2008 Dream Concert was totally so cruel. i was not even a fan back then, but because of that incident, i got to know about the girls n when "Gee" made the hit on 2009, i started to fall for them and for me, the girls were not so bad like those antis said (mostly from the boygroups' fangirls, specially TVXQ and Super Junior, which ironically they are in the same company as the girls), i just don't get it why they can't be like fans from YGE, where Big Bang's and 2NE1's fans could unite, and i never heard of them got into huge fights.

edit!

Girls won Inkigayo mutizen! yayy~~~



so it's been triple mutizens for The Boys, Mnet countdown + mubank + inkigayo!



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I think that explanation is a little TOO simplified? Like, Koreans don't always release mini albums, and they generally don't repackage their actual mini albums. They pretty much do whatever the f they want though, lol. They switch between releasing singles and mini albums (which can both have three songs if they want, they don't care). Some artists release albums that are six songs (which we would call mini albums, but they call albums) and some release albums that have ten or more songs. Also, depending on the artists and apparently what they just happen to feel like doing at the time, the title tracks from previous singles and mini albums may or may not end up on the full album. Albums are generally the only ones that get repackaged, but not ALL artists repackage their albums. I think the album repackaging thing is mostly an SM thing, because I can't really think of any YG, JYP, etc. groups that have repackaged their albums. Of course, it's not ONLY SM artists, like how BEG, T-ara, Infinite and many others have repackaged their albums. But generally, it's not something that everyone does/something that happens every time an album is released.

yea they sometimes release mini album and sometimes full album and sometimes just single or digital single.
their pattern is just hard to predict haha~

I am so in love with that Inkigayo outfits!! :heart :heart :heart

The performance was recorded two weeks ago after Inkigayo broadcast, so it's not surprising that Sica still looked unwell :(

I'm still very much craving for more The Boys performance~

The girls will be releasing their 1st Japan Photobook: 『Holiday』

^ NOOO WHAT I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE MONEY STOP RELEASING STUFF GIRLS. I'm gonna have to wait for some time before ordering this one ;~;

This is the most accurate description I've seen to date :roflmao
Yeah well if we're talking SM they do have a pattern when it come to releases instead of being totally random like some companies XD
It's like this: They rarely ever release a digital single. If it's a mini-album they might follow-up with another track in the album later but it won't get an MV. If it's a full album it gets a repackage with 1-4 different songs. For SNSD, SHINee, and f(x) they usually have 1-2 minis between full albums. TVXQ and Super Junior only release full albums. TRAX and The Grace are totally random at the moment :laugh

oh and btw this is something I found confusing at first, most Kpop artists don't release OST songs as singles like in JPop, they only appear on OST albums.

I know they are super busy, but are they going to release a reckapage album soon ?

^I heard so, someone talked about it in T-Ara's thread.. But tbh I'm not sure ...

It would be normal for SM artists to have a repackage. So i would be surprised if this album didnt have one.
im predicting a mid Dec release...perhaps after their Singapore concert on the 9th and 10th

yea seeing SM method, it'll always occur to their artists.
OMG i really want that photobook...but too brokeeeeeeeeeeeee~~

The girls are going to be hosting their own talk show!! :D
http://www.allkpop.com/2011/11/snsd-...-own-talk-show

^ yey finally got something to watch bout SNSD full show.

Apparently the repackage of The Boys is due out in a few weeks - the Australian Kpop supplier group on Facebook apparently got their confirmation today and are taking orders :D

I got back from Sydney today - the live performance was amazing (all the acts were standouts but I'll focus on SNSD for this thread :D)!!!

Tiffany and Yuri hosted the event - speaking mainly in Korean with Tiffany then recapping the conversation a little in English, which was nice but we missed their banter!!

They appeared around the middle of the show but before their song performance, HyoYeon, YoonA, Yuri and SooYoung did a collaborative dance performance with SHINee....I screamed myself so hoarse I started to sound like SooYoung's fangirl xDDD

Here's the best cam I found for the dance: http://youtu.be/qSJI5VdnhuQ | http://youtu.be/NNL8jxwMw3w

When they performed lots of people stood up on their chairs so I couldn't see them at all :( Which really, really sucked but I got to hear them and I even saw Hyo do the little jump in the Gee chorus through a gap in the sea of heads lol

They performed The Boys in Korean, Kissing You and finally Gee before they exited the stage. I was expecting them to do 4 songs like some of the other acts got but I was happily surprised with Kissing You - what a cool song to perform lol

Jessica spoke lots of English this time, which was really cool considering she didn't say much in the NY interviews - her voice is so sweet......SeoHyun also spoke some English and SooYoung was one of the 4 to stay til the end and say her farewells.

I was about 60 metres away from them from my seat but even there I could feel their energy........all the concert did was make me want to see a full SNSD concert even more :)

The Boys
Kissing You (short)
Gee

At the end the remaining 4 members sang the Korean national anthem with all the other performers and threw the little rubbery balls with autographs like Ayu does. I missed one by about a foot and saw 3 people with 2 and one with THREE who was already talking about how much he'd sell them on eBay for :( That put a real dampener when I saw lots of younger kids trying to jump and get the balls but older people snatched them all up!

I really can't fault the performances, from what I saw they were perfect, although Jessica's mike wasn't working properly in The Boys and it looked like she missed her queue (although the camera was on her and you could see her lips moving) - straight after The Boys her mike was changes (as well as Tiffany's I think) but they still had some dropouts in the other songs (at least that's what I heard....

The concert will apparently be broadcast on MBC on December 3 - so soon you'll all get to watch it xD

In person (well, on a giant TV screen being projected from close to me) the girls look gorgeous. Yuri was sparkling, Sunny looked gorgeous, TaeYeon was on fire, Jessica was so elegant and SeoHyun looked totally porcelain and flawless.............they all looked fantastic that I couldn't decide who I liked best that night. Such a shame there were no fanmeetings but I intend on writing a few suggestions to the organisers for the next concert (if there is one ^_^)

Since we got home I have had Factory Girl playing - we watched NY Part 2 and my fiancée was cracking up at SooYoung's conversation with the taxi driver :P

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I really want that photobook too lol But luckily there's no FP bonus that I need to have so it can wait til post-Christmas or something :)

@Cori - I haven't been in this thread much lately but you're newer to SNSD? Basically the Korean market produces three types of albums: [*]mini albums (usually about 5-6 songs each - too long for a single, not enough for a full album - here we'd call it an "EP")[*]albums (released usually every year and approx 14 tracks)[*]repackaged albums (released 1-2 months after an album and contains 1-2 new tracks and sometimes a new tracklisting.....think of it like Gaga's Fame Monster - it's The Fame with "more"........that's the gist of it)

Actually TomPunks' answer does a better job xD labels do tend to do wtfever they feel like, which is super confusing when you're coming into KPOP music........ :tired

SNSD's key discography is this:
Into The New World (debut single)
Girls' Generation (first album)
Baby Baby (first album repackage) adds 3 tracks/remixes
Gee (first mini album)
Genie (second mini album)
Oh! (second album)
Run Devil Run (second album repackage) adds 3 tracks
Hoot (third mini album)
Girls' Generation (Japan first album)
The Boys (third album)

So if you're not a real collector, you can get by on the repackages and the mini albums but I'd hazard a guess about the 3rd album repackage coming out January 2012 or maybe February.

They also have loads of TV shows - if you haven't before, check out Girls Go To School, Intimate Note feat. SNSD and Hello Baby and Factory Girl if you're up for a longer challenge - they're all great shows that give you a great picture of their personalities and helps you get to know them a bit better :)

The weekly show sounds cool too, although I hope it lasts longer than Cheer Up! and all those other cancelled-after-three-episodes-or-even-less shows xDDD I wanna see if they force Sunny's aegyo ;)

I used to just feel bad for Super7 because I thought they were just being forced to emulate SNSD by their company, but after that lipsynching performance at that awards ceremony plus all that *****ing I think they can go jump :P There's no need to put others down to elevate yourself - it's one of the prime reasons I don't bother following western music - what's wrong with people just being civil to one another?!?

^ i'm so envy of you. u gotta see the girls performing The Boys Live..
anyway, were they singing all live?
can't wait to see MBC air the whole show soon =))

^ all were live, they had mic faults so you could tell hahahaha

They all have awesome stage prescence. Oh! And it was the Korean version which was a bit surprising as I expected English to promote the maxi single...........that's only a few days away too :)

^ Oo lucky! I can't wait to see them next month as well :heart

And yes, talking about their variety shows, everywhere they appear the girls surely give colors and fun. I remember I'm watching Horror Movie Factory and laughed so hard :laugh and Invincible Youth with Sunny + Yuri well + Kim Shinyoung and Narsha too they make such a dynamic combination :yes

kendelle, that's good to hear, because they've been said lipsynched by some ppl.
haha LOL it seems Sica always becoming the victim for mic malfunction for this comeback. haha XDD~~

@kendelle...wow..few weeks?? maybe thats why they are promoting The Boys Remix already. come to think of it, its about a month from their comeback already. Hopefully it'll come out before the 10th :P

Um....MBC. Meaning, can we people in america see it on channel 11? :O the news channel?

^ MBC Korea - which means it'll pop up on JPop Suki that same night lol

^ knew it was too good to be true :(

woah kendelle, that sounds like a really great experience!!
And good to know that they performed live, poor Sica anyway XD

^ haha Sica is always so poor wakakka..
she's cursed this year lmao~~~

Their appearance on Dream Team (111113) is up and subbed on Youtube :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3HZw...el_video_title - Part 1/5, other parts are on the user's channel! Tiffany in the speedwalking race and SeoHyun/Jessica in Capture the Flag................. <3

^ Thanks for that, it was really entertaining. I don't see them in enough variety shows because I never know what to look for or where to find them, so that was hysterical :D

Oh wow, that's pretty disjointed lol Although their voices sound sweet :) I guess that's a track for the repackage, then.........?

@bondingo - The SSF Classics channel has loads of their older variety stuff if you'd like to check it out sometime! I prefer to download them (I'm an artist hoarder even in the digital world lol) so I don't see them streaming all that often but if I see any other really cool ones I'll link those too :D

umm well I don't know what to think about that short preview, I liked the part in the end though

wow Boomerang.. that's their new song for repackage album?
seriously?

it sounds really interesting and different! Can't wait

so this week it's gonna be the goodbye stage for SNSD~
ah~~ time flies so fast..

oh they performed at Mnet Countdown today too

they sang How great is your love as their goodbye stage



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Goodbye stage?! really weird

^ yea.. this week, i think they have wrapped up their The BOys promotion
they have won 3 times for each show, so i guess it's the rule for stopping the promotion.

well the repackage is propably coming soon so they'll be back shortly! :D

I like it! :)

^ MAMA = Mnet Asian Music Awards. It used to be called Mnet KM Music Festival (MKMF) until 2009.
I wouldn't say the MAMA is prestigious, it's kinda been the joke of the kpop fandom for the last couple of years :laugh The girls didn't attend it in 2009 & 2010 because SM and Mnet had some disputes. SM accused them of being unfair to their artists and boycotted them until early this year. Personally I was never fond of Mnet in general so the MAMAs don't matter to me, plus it's just a huge popularity contest and fans tend to take the voting a little too seriously. You can read more about the SM vs Mnet fight here
The Golden Disk awards are what really matter, and they won that last year. (despite the fact that Super Junior fans say they didn't win it fairly :rolleyes)

Boomerang is awesome omg :luv2 !! It's weird that it leaked now though, is this confirmed to be the title song for the repackage ?

I just love all those parts in Boomerang where the vocals don't match up to the music track at all. Really well produced stuff here.

Boomerang is crap, I read its just a unreleased song from sometime ago? About time they moved on to working on their 2nd Japanese album now...

Boomerang sounds pretty cool!
I hope the repackage is out soon I want to buy it :luv2

For a japanese album, usually the artists have to release singles first.
In my opinion, Oh! it could be a new single

Boomerang is good...need time to grow..

I'm completely agree with TofuBunny about MAMA~ and the thing that the girls' The Boys got into some of the nominations is somehow TOO FAST,i mean the girls just released their album in OCTOBER, and the award show will be held in NOVEMBER, that's kinda too fast for me and it's weird. not that i don't want SNSD to win anything at MAMA but knowing SME vs Mnet back then and now their artists are back on the game specially SNSD, i just don't want the girls being accused as unfair winner by those antis/other artists' fans.

noisy_harmony, wow there's actually full song of Boomerang! thanks for sharing!
and i like Boomerang!

and today's MuBank, The Boys!
they won again and it's 10th time! yey!
i thought they wouldn't win again because it's already 3 times. hmm~



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Yay another win! They surely won a lot XD

^ yea.. it's 10th now for the record..
so happy for them!

I thought Inkigayo was the only one where an artist can only win three times with a song?

Yay I'm so happy for them :heart ! And it's the tenth win already omg :thud

^ Yeah it's only inki. They did win K-Chart 9 times in a row for Gee after all.

omg guys, im completely obssesed with the app sm released for iphone of the girls!! i can't stop playing .___.
best 2€ i spent ever:laugh

^ What app *-* !! I only have the Hoot one D:

edit: nvm I'm downloading it right now! I can't wait to play :heart

And m-net Countdown

omg it's so addictive but I keep getting an F I'm such a fail :roflmao .. I hope they release more songs quickly!

^i got a C on My J:laugh yes yes yes yes! more songs!! i want gee:thud!!!

^ what have you done I couldn't keep my eyes off the iTouch for 10 minutes straight and now my eyes hurt from focusing so much :tired
omg Gee would be amazing :thud .. I want Kissing You and Genie too :luv2

^omg, i don't know! im just touching the screen nonstop!
AND I HAD A B ON TELEPASY!! omg:laugh

^ YAY CONGRATS :laugh !! I tried My J thinking it would be easy and it gave me another F :roflmao .. Are you playing on the Tap or Shake mode? Oh and I don't know what to do with the cards I just bought a lot of them XD

the tap:laugh i don't understand the shake one ._. my life ends really quickly XD like in 30seconds :roflmao
no idea about the cards too:roflmao but i have already 6 of yoona!:heart

^ I'm the opposite XD The shake one is really simple you just spin the wheel into the right direction :laugh
Oh well they're just really nice to look at then XD I got 6 Taeyeons and 5 Yuris .. I don't remember the rest ~

haha, every time you post a performance i watch it and then i see your ayu sig and its super cute because it seems like ayu is clapping to the music and having fun :laugh

^ wahahha lols.. yea the siggy is so funny..

anyway, here's today's performance of The Boys @ MuCore



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and today's inkigayo performance!
it's the goodbye stage



credit: the uploader!

Agh the mic is so low.


Did anyone else think it was going to be a remix during the middle 8? There is some added beats/sounds I think. I want them to do another awesome remix like the Genie remixes they did live...maybe for the repackage.

^yeah...i hear it

@Cori: These are their "official titles" - Soshified has the most useful profiles on all the girls :)

Leader: Taeyeon
Lead Vocalist: Taeyeon, Jessica, SeoHyun
Supporting Vocalist: Sunny, Tiffany, HyoYeon, Yuri, Sooyoung, YoonA
Lead Dancer: HyoYeon, Yuri

While Yuri is often the focus over HyoYeon, Hyo is the group's "dancing queen", she's only just been getting the love she deserves with this album cycle...against Yuri, who is one of the "faces" of SNSD, Yuri wins in terms of media focus!

So I guess you could say that TaeYeon, Jessica, SeoHyun, HyoYeon and Yuri are the "main players" in the group, with the others relegated to supporting roles. However, in the world of KPOP, they need members who are good on variety shows, those with model's looks for magazine covers and endorsements and those with huge personalities to attract attention. None of the members are "useless" within SNSD but not all their roles are pivotal for their music!

I only have a Gen 1 iPod - that game won't work for me, will it?? ;_; They need android stuff too!

^ oh, i thought Tiffany is the lead vocalist for all this time.
and i think the girls don't have leader anymore right? since a year or two years ago, when Taeyeon stepped down. hmm..

I thought Sunny and Tiffany are lead vocalists :0
^oh I heard about that Taeng thing as well, hmm..

anyway, i just read at akp..lols Tiffany's shorts is the hot topic at the moment lols
http://www.allkpop.com/2011/11/tiffa...#disqus_thread

why would people care with some shorts XD
and well this is just my personal opinion, I hate shorts that shows butt cheeks no matter who wore it. I think it looks ugly lol

^ haha yea right. it's actually way too short..
haish i hope the stylist would think of the girls' image next time.
or else they'll be bashed again.. specially Tiffany which she was bashed so bad last time for being wearing very short shorts/skirts in purpose, they said.

@ExodusUK, omg I'd love it if they performed some cool remixes for The Boys like they did with Genie :thud

Speaking of remixes, I LOVE this one:



I totally agree with the last paragraph! I hate it when people call members like Yoona useless because she doesn't sing or dance as well as the others. She brought SNSD a lot of publicity with her role in You Are My Destiny and all the endorsement she gets.

Yeah I guess it only works for iPhones and the new iPods. They really should make an android version

When it comes to the lead singers, I think Taeyeon, Jessica, Tiffany, Seohyun, and Sunny all share that role. Like when they were on Music Travel La-La-La



They've all had solo songs outside the group as well :yes
Okay I need to stop before I spam the thread with a million videos of the girls singing :roflmao

well you are forever allowed to spam us with these flawless girls singing :yes
:laugh

^ :lech




(The original video of this performance had 1mil views but it was taken down :eviltongu)





One of my ultimate faves:




Extra! Sooyoung covering Everlasting :heart

^ thanks for all those videos.
the girls are talented!!
love their singing!

^ Glad you like em!

Preview of Sooyoung and Fany in Vogue's December issue:



GORGEOUS :luv2 :luv2 !!!

Anyone have a download link for Boomerang? *_*

thanks sarah :luv2

sooyoung looks sooo tall there :0

@Cori omg I only have like.. 17 plays for the track, and 90 plays for the album XD

TofuBunny, thx for sharing VOGUE pics.
they both look so gorgeous! love it!

Cori, wow that's cool! you're so into The Boys then hehe.

pommy, i only could find out youtube link. can you convert it to mp3?

^ You're both welcome :shughug

Pommy, enjoy :D!


I don't have that many plays for The Boys :laugh 35 for the Korean version and 6 for the English one. TRICK (AKA THE MOST FLAWLESS TRACK ON THE ALBUM KFJNEHBFRE) has 93 plays though :lech

I wonder how you guys have such listenings powers XD I can't listen to a track that much, even my most played track only has 50 plays, and that's already a huge number to me XD

The Boys only has 2 plays for me. :innocent

My plays of the boys
Korean : 198
English : 35

Quite overplayed lmao

haha i don't know how many times i've played The boys..
but i've been listening to the song every day ever since its release...n specially the korean version ~~

^omg how frequent XD dilligent listener eh
I'm quite interested with the diversity, some are really crazy about the song, some are okay, and some didn't enjoy it that much..

but it's been few days that i don't listen to the album..busy watchin drama right now hahah ~~

Crap. I was expecting a lot more plays. Lulz. I can't even imagine how many times I've played the PV of the song on my phone.

That's another stand out track for me. 79 plays.

Thank you so much!

i only hear The Boys, when i watch the PV

news about the girls

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the girls gonna be busy for TV shows then.

can I be those teenagers ? :eyes *envies*
lol joke, I can't wait to watch it, I wonder how it will be!

Why does it sound like SM's going to make them a new girl group? >_>

I had these play counts on my iPod

The Boys 39
OSCAR 28
TRICK 28
Top Secret 27

the girls won again in today's mubank! wow 5th time.



backstage with Wonder Girls



the winning video



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Anyone has posted these videos?
It's very interesting about the girls 'personal' up close life behind the stage, more like a documentary for me but it captures most precious moments you probably want to know.

There's 4 episodes, but I could only find 2 fully subbed on YT and ep 3 part 1, i'll post episodes 1-2 first

cr : YuriKwonBlkPearl Channel

Thanks for the videos! It's fun to watch their daily life..

I love seeing my angel Seohyun, thanks...

yep Seohyun is so kind to her friends :heart

I hope her friends don't take advantage of her...though I don't think the girls earn very much due to SM's slave contracts anyway...