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I just preordered the blu ray limited from amazon.
DAMN. I never knew I could save so much money with amazon.co.jp! I order from amazon.com ALL the time! Shocked though, I just saved about $60 USD lol |
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I'm as shocked as you are... I almost feel it's too good to be true:grumpy |
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I mean that they normally do not include any external bonuses like posters or lucky draw items that we get from other stores. |
I think I will wait until December to buy the bluray regular edition. Happy birthmonth and holidays to me!
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I can see why some people want this, but I'm more than satisfied with clips that are available on YouTube or clips from my DVDs. I don't think having all the PVs in HQ is worth $300+.
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You know, I wonder how much they'd sell A LIVE BOX with all of her concerts in DVD/Blu-ray for.
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I don't even want to think of such a cost though I would still want such a release!
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I think they'll leave the 4:3 videos like that. Ayu's had a few PVs with weird aspect ratios as well. |
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correct me if im wrong..but as i know the first video to be recorded in digital hd camera was BLUE BIRD the rest before was filmed in 24mm film |
here's my question about amazon.co.jp...can you cancel your order easily?
i'm afraid if i order from amazon, maybe later team ayu will sell the box with some great gift! if that happens, can i cancel at amazon? |
^^I don't see why not. It's not like a contract...they can't hold you to anything
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EDIT: AWW, just ordered mine... x.x.... Lord i need to make some money fast! lol... By the by... does anyone know what this "special edition" is??? |
Special edition?
If you're talking limited edition, it will apparently have a luxurious box and a specially designed bag. That is the only ~bonus~ you get from it. |
play-asia.com preorder links.
Blu-ray Limited Edition Blu-ray Normal Edition DVD Limited Edition DVD Normal Edition |
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eg. just researched. Friends was shot on a "35mm film" (used for movies) but was mastered to a 4:3 frame (the norm at the time of the shows release). But the 35mm film has more information than a 4:3 frame, the aspect ratio of the film is actually widescreen. So remastering the film to widescreen HD was possible. So it all depends on what the source of the video is. Given they're bothering with a blu-ray release, I'm thinking they have a lot of her videos filmed on sources where at least it can be remastered to 720p. |
Maybe even 1080p?
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^The widescreen versions of Seinfeld, on the other hand, are zoomed up in order to achieve the 16:9 frame, thus losing both information and sacrificing quality. Lets hope avex doesn't do that to ayu's PV. Btw, neither Seinfeld nor Friends has been released on blu-ray.
4:3 is fine on blu-ray. Look at the earlier Disney films (Snow White, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo and Bambi). There is nothing wrong with keeping the director's intended aspect ratio, he did after all film them for full-screen televisions. To do otherwise would be to distort his work (imagine cropping or widening the Mona Lisa because it didn't fit your pre-made picture frame). |
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So if that's the case for any of Ayumi's videos(I doubt it since 16:9 wasn't that weird for music TV back then) they probably shot them directly 4:3. When recording on film you usually crop it out for 4:3, however that does not mean the "full" ratio is better, it usually is much worse because it wasn't intended that way. I'd prefer her keeping 4:3 videos in 4:3 instead of going back to the full ratio and ****ing up the image compositions, since they are very good in some Ayumi videos. @perfectodub are you sure they recorded on 24mm and not 35mm? A full-frame sensor seems like a much better idea for professional recordings. But it doesn't matter really since both can give you crystal clear 1080i when mastered correctly. In theory 35mm film can go up to about 10 megapixels while full HD has roughly 2 megapixels. |
so,at the end of the day,it is depends on the video editor who edited the PVs with special effect and animation edit them in 16:9 ratio or 4:3 ratio.
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Pretty much. It all depends on who edited the videos and how they were edited. We can't know if we get true HD or upscales, we can't know if 4:3 videos will be extended, cropped or left 4:3.
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I also wonder about some PVs that was shot in 16:9 but release in 4:3 (I don't know how to explain) like GREEN (Days was shot and release in 16:9 while GREEN is shot in 16:9 but release in 4:3 with black bar on the top & bottom), crossroad (while the rest of Love songs was presented in 16:9), all of RnRC album track PVs (while single track was presented in 16:9). What the point of not releasing those in widecreen?
And if the blu-ray has them with original ratio (have black bar on the top & bottom) and made them fit 16:9 TV (put black bar on the right & left), it's gonna be awful! I hope they will put real HD 16:9 of those videos in blu-ray. sorry for my English |
The only way we'll really know what is TrueHD and what isn't is when we see it. Hopefully we're in for a surprise, though if a lot of them were in HD... we'd have gotten it in the description.
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Though avex will probably treat us to like 10 HD PVs and a whole lot of SD. |
this debate about the quality is boring. we'll just have to wait and see.
my wishlist for this release: (still can't believe i ordered the blu ray limited edition!) -Duty PV -maybe the full PVs for vogue, Far away, and SEASONS -PV for HANABI (although I know it will never happen) I just need there to be SOMETHING on here that justifies me spending $245 on PVs I already own on DVD! |
Were full versions of the trilogy even shot?
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Lol, some people are interested in buying the blu-ray for the quality! :P I hope we get a fair share of HD and SD and not most SD though... Hopefully Avex will unveil more specs soon?
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This Duty "PV" discussion is such nonsense. That is not a PV, it's footage from the pachinko game set to Duty, not a PV for the song. |
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I wish they'd put the full CM version at least (the 30 second Tu-ka CM).
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Her earliest PV dates from 1998, there are movies being release in blu that date as early as 1920 and they got remastered and look good (given the source). Let's be patient and wait to see what avex will tell us. I'm going for full hd on all PVs but if you don't have such faith, wait and see. |
they said something about never released stuff... i hope those are pv's!!
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If she isn't going to release anything this christmas,probably i'll buy it.But i think she is going to release the photobook and maybe even a single/album...
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it would have been already announced by this time... forget it. no new single/album this year...
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I rather she takes some time before releasing anything. I didn't like Five too much and rather indulge in this compilation.
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wich photobook u talkin about? '-' i guess it's too random to release a photobook by the end of this year...
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^ the life style photobook that Ayu announced through TeamAyu~
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oh i forgot about this one... kinda strange it didnt have the releasement date announced yet '-' maybe next year...
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With A CLIPS BOX it's better.
That box got my money over for this month. xD |
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^haha,maybe next year...but would be great to have it on christmas u.u |
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^ I just don't hope that they'll put black boxes above and beneath the video :laugh. (Many of my HD movies I have home -and on my pc- are like that).
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I really want more info on this! Speculation is annoying and usually wrong lol
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Of course you can cancel your order, if it's not worth it, just cancel.
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i hope we'll have a TV-CM soon!!
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Seeing the last releases of ayu, you could expect a cm one day before the release data XD
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^ Or even after; remember ayu-mi-x 7 Youtube Commercial's ? XD
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Imagine a TV-CM with a small clip of all 100 PVs, lol.
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i wish i can gat the limited edition~~ :(
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preordered~ :3 ... who needs an iphone 4S if you can have our queen in HD?!
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I preordered on Amazon as it's my wish that she re-released Clip Box in BR (read Five BR thread). But for 300$ it'd better have:
- An awesome box design - A photobook included. I don't want lyric sleeves like the old Clip Box. Please a a photobook or artworks... - All videos are with optional Ayu and/or director's commentary so we would know her PVs better. - I know a lot of videos on this release will be HD-upscaled (like heavy-CGI-using videos like Forgiveness, Starting,...) or videos that don't have good source (like filmed on tape or SD digital formats...) but Avex pls remastered the videos that were filmed on good quality film so this BR release would be in its perfect sense. - Please leave 4:3 videos as they are. don't zoom, don't crop them. 16:9 videos which weren't filmed in anamorphic you can crop but please don't crop native 4:3 videos. |
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And I know, for at least Friends, the images are not zoomed or cropped. As I explained previously, the source of the footage is not a 4:3 video but a 35mm film. The film was then cropped to 4:3 as was the norm at the time. However, the source film is not 4:3, its actually widescreen like in motion pictures (where this film is used) with enough information to create a HD picture. So the film is re-scanned and remastered, using the wider aspect ratio available and thus making a 16:9 version. I'm sure this is the same thing that Seinfeld did - look this up on google, there are pages on information on this topic and the shows HD versions. The whole point is, this could have happened with many of Ayu's earlier clips. They have been filmed on a source where a HD and/or widescreen version could be created. They wouldn't be releasing a blu-ray unless they had something like this up their sleeve for the majority of her PVs. If her 4:3 videos are just that - with no source to create a HD version - they will be left as is, for sure. No right minded studio or company would crop a 4:3 video to fit widescreen because you can do that yourself on a blu-ray player. |
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As for ayu, I still think we will have everything in the same aspect ratios, no point on changing what is already good. |
If I do order this, I'll try and remember to use the CDJapan link here on AHS. I forgot last time when I ordered FIVE. Right now, just trying to find the money to pay for this.
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Edit: WAIT WHAT? She has 100 PVs now??? |
Mwahahhaha, I bet the CM will be something like that, starting on poker face and then fast forwarding through her entire videography, something like:
hamasaki ayumi, then a little bit of poker face then fast forward till her last clip then 1sec of silence and then the guy, A CLIP BOX... coming soon... AVEX TRAX. Ta-dah. |
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According to this list: http://secsecae.multiply.com/journal/item/10 it's 87 PVs + the FIVE PVs + the trilogy, so 95(96 including Dream ON). |
basically blowing my ayu budget for half a year in one hit for this but who care, all her PV's in one nice box with the CM's to boot. I hope other PV's mean the special DUTY PV from her CR game thing :P but other than that, basically only Blossom has 2 PV's, not much different and Dearest which has a Acoustic ver. PV
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2 ・YOU 3 ・Trust 4 ・For My Dear... 5 ・Depend on you 6 ・WHATEVER 7 ・LOVE ～Destiny～ 8 ・TO BE 9 ・Boys & Girls 10 ・A [TV-CM] 11 ・appears 12 ・kanariya 13 ・Fly high 14 ・vogue 15 ・Far away 16 ・SEASONS 17 ・SURREAL 18 ・AUDIENCE [TV-CM] 19 ・M 20 ・evolution 21 ・NEVER EVER [promotional clip] 22 ・Endless sorrow 23 ・UNITE! [TV-CM] 24 ・Dearest 25 ・Daybreak 26 ・Free & Easy 27 ・H [TV-CM] 28 ・Voyage 29 ・ourselves 30 ・Greatful days 31 ・HANABI ～episode II～ 32 ・forgiveness 33 ・No way to say 34 ・Moments 35 ・INSPIRE 36 ・CAROLS 37 ・STEP you 38 ・is this LOVE? 39 ・fairyland 40 ・HEAVEN 41 ・Bold & Delicious (single version) 42 ・Pride 43 ・Startin' 44 ・Born To Be... 45 ・BLUE BIRD 46 ・距愛 ～Distance Love～ (glitter / fated) ＜short film＞ 47 ・talkin' 2 myself 48 ・decision 49 ・Mirrorcle World 50 ・Days 51 ・GREEN 52 ・Rule 53 ・Sparkle 54 ・Sunrise ～LOVE is ALL～ 55 ・Sunset ～LOVE is ALL～ 56 ・You were... 57 ・BALLAD 58 ・MOON 59 ・blossom (single ver.) 60 ・crossroad 61 ・Virgin Road 62 ・Last angel 63 ・Sweet Season 64 ・Dearest (Acoustic Piano version) 65 ・Connected 66 ・Real me 67 ・RAINBOW 68 ・ANGELS' SONG 69 ・Because of You 70 ・GAME 71 ・About You 72 ・walking proud 73 ・Humming 7/4 74 ・my name's WOMEN 75 ・alterna 76 ・Bold & Delicious -SIDE STORY- (album version) 77 ・rainy day 78 ・Ladies Night 79 ・Beautiful Fighters 80 ・JEWEL 81 ・1 LOVE 82 ・momentum 83 ・part of Me 84 ・Together When... 85 ・Marionette 86 ・(don't) Leave me alone 87 ・NEXT LEVEL 88 ・Curtain call 89 ・Sexy little things 90 ・Microphone 91 ・Don't look back 92 ・Lady Dynamite 93 ・blossom (-director's cut-) 94 ・Love song 95 ・do it again 96 ・progress 97 ・ANother song feat. URATA NAOYA 98 ・Why... feat. JUNO 99 ・beloved 100 ・BRILLANTE |
>o< must have BDs
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I was just thinking about something. On the first tracklist we got to see, the PVs for the singles where by chronological order and then the album PVs followed after, I seriously hope it will be all in the right order, because it will suck big time to have stuff like this. On the Complete Clip Box it was all arranged by order let's hope for the same here.
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I think it's probably preliminary since the release date isn't for another few months.
I'd be surprised if it was were not chronological. |
^ I hope that is the case, I'd be rather disappointed if that wasn't the case, but let's just wait and see.
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I kind of hope they would put original pvs and different/cut versions on somewhere else or afterwards or something. xD
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People that don't know they put since the first single the 15 and 30 sec for singles, albums, dvds, lives and compilations. |
I hope they put alternative versions like that we discovered of Sweet Season
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How come I see people always saying that the Complete Clip Box is so hard to find when I can still see it for sale in CDJapan? If anyone is interested I'll be more then happy to sell it, since I want to get this one instead. I understand probably collectors would be interested in that one over this.
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I bought Complete Clip Box back in august for 70$ on ebay. i think there are still a few on sale on ebay |
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^you can sell them here in AHS
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How to sell items here?
Looks like my copies are getting ready to find their new masters. |
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luckily i have those Green/Days single...if not, i will buy it from you~~lol
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Can someone advise me in which part of the forum I can sell my stuff please? Thanks.
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Thank you so much!!! I have some things that I really don't care that much anymore, so might as well just sell them to buy new stuff XD.
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They are releasing very similar things lately; FIVE Blu-ray (All contents except for making off's are in A CLIP BOX 1998-2011), 50 SINGLES ~LIVE SELECTION~ (edit; the songs are in A CLIP BOX 1998-2011)... However, by now I know that avex is just an greedy company. :laugh
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^^nothing from the 50 singles live DVD is in the A CLIP BOX 1998-2011...
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^^some, maybe, not not really...? we are talking about PVs, not just songs.
50 singles collection live has 50 live performances. this collection has 100 PVs. |
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It's like being surprised that A COMPLETE had all the singles up until Mirrorcle World. |
Sure, each year is a commemoration of something to avex
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50 singles got a set of ayu-mi-xes and a DVD, and 100 clips got a new box set. I don't think they'll be doing anything like this for a while, at least until 100 singles/200 clips. Maybe A BEST 3, but that's due in a while anyway. |
I hope they release ayu-mi-x 8 house and trance and work on tracks from Secret - Love songs.
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