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Cahz- 19th October 2018 12:54 PM

Half CoLOURS :roflmao
It's an interesting setlist. Definitely wasn't expecting it to be this upbeat.

Party_King 19th October 2018 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voguehoney (Post 3288862)
Medley

This tour surely has a lot of surprises haha :D

freedreamer 19th October 2018 12:56 PM

YOU and Merry-go-round omgggg

I wonder if she will change the encore ballad

voguehoney 19th October 2018 12:56 PM

19. MY ALL

KittyKathy 19th October 2018 12:56 PM

I don't like the setlist. Again.

Earth_maiden 19th October 2018 12:57 PM

Survivor and Merry-go-round! I'm happy. No Step YOU for me yet again. :laugh

voguehoney 19th October 2018 12:59 PM

01 W
02 Lady Dynamite
03 1 LOVE
---Timmy Show---
04 The way I am (Acappella version)
05 æternal
06 Last angel
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07 Movin' on without you
08 Lelio
09 XOXO
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10 We are the QUEENS
11 Survivor
12 Startin'
13 Love song
14 NOW & 4EVA
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Encore ~Sorrow Instrumental~

15 YOU
16 Feel the love
17 Boys & Girls ~ Merry-go-round
18 The Show Must Go On
19 MY ALL

Party_King 19th October 2018 01:00 PM

What an amazing and different/refreshing Setlist!
I didn't saw this coming, I'm really surprised <3

I'm sooo ready for all these Songs:
W, Lady Dynamite, The way I am, We are the QUEENS, Survivor, Startin', YOU, Feel the love and Merry-go-round

BTW there's no evolution haha :D

Cahz- 19th October 2018 01:07 PM

Btw I love she's doing the acapella version of The way I am, I like this version way more than the regular one.

~angel*ayumi~ 19th October 2018 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voguehoney (Post 3288859)
17. Boys & Girls ~ Merry-go-round

New Standart medley for the next 10 years? :roflmao

mizuki-7 19th October 2018 01:08 PM

Not a lot of older songs that’s Interesting ;)

njanjayrp 19th October 2018 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voguehoney (Post 3288869)
01 W
02 Lady Dynamite
03 1 LOVE
---Timmy Show---
04 The way I am (Acappella version)
05 æternal
06 Last angel
--------------------
07 Movin' on without you
08 Lelio
09 XOXO
--------------------
10 We are the QUEENS
11 Survivor
12 Startin'
13 Love song
14 NOW & 4EVA
---------------------
Encore ~Sorrow Instrumental~

15 YOU
16 Feel the love
17 Boys & Girls ~ Merry-go-round
18 The Show Must Go On
19 MY ALL

Awesome setlist! Can't wait for February!

Aderianu 19th October 2018 01:17 PM

Feels like YOU may be replaced with some other old rare songs at each show

aliceshields 19th October 2018 01:25 PM

No ballads....

Earth_maiden 19th October 2018 01:26 PM

I'm fully expecting there to be changed throughout the tour, but I'm really happy with that setlist.

ayumint 19th October 2018 01:41 PM

YOU?????? Omg

Chris85 19th October 2018 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kotora (Post 3288843)
LOL what is timmy show? strip dancing? I would love that.

LOL. His costumes leave nothing to imagination already, haha!

2 lucky boys and 4 lucky girls this time. No MC.

Son_of_Sun 19th October 2018 02:16 PM

Excited for the COUNTDOWN concert. Going to apply for the ticket lottery since I'm in Tokyo over New Years. I already have a ticket for the concert in Ibaraki but with my bad/good luck I'll get a ticket.

Last year I got a ticket for her (non)New Years concert in Tokyo but paid like 3 times the normal price from a dude outside the venue.

tokyoxjapanxfan 19th October 2018 02:37 PM

Welp I don’t like the set list at all...

Lady dynamite, aeternal, the way I am, you, merry go round, now & 4 eva and love song are the only songs I’m interested in seeing...

Not surprised it’s Tim-centric. His persona will continue to make me cringe, but that’s the way it is I guess...

njanjayrp 19th October 2018 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aliceshields (Post 3288876)
No ballads....

She's over-done it with the ballads in CH3 of JTB and PoM, so I am happy this is more upbeat for a change. I was hoping she'd do WORDS...

Gustavopc 19th October 2018 02:50 PM

Hmmm, not sure if I like the setlist tbh. I mean, of course I haven't watched the concert and it might work live but looking at it I just don't feel it. Wish there was more of A ONE, sixxxxxx and MIJ songs than Colours, especially cause these from Colours are not my fav from the album... And I hope she adds WORDS later on :(

Irish_Ayu_Fan 19th October 2018 03:10 PM

Ok, I need to hear how Boys & Girls ~ Merry Go-round sounds like now

xLuna&1LOVE 19th October 2018 03:11 PM

Wow no evolution~SURREAL~evolution?! Haha!
And lots of lots of recent songs instead of the classics! I am loving it! Sounds like a very girl-empowering live show and I am encouraging that.

Anyone knows what she was wearing??

adrtwb 19th October 2018 03:29 PM

I would die for “YOU”

hud 19th October 2018 03:32 PM

amazing setlist! I love Colours so I'm loving it!

also I hope Boys & Girls ~ Merry-go-round is the new staple medley cause we needed a new one lol

alternarist 19th October 2018 03:43 PM

definitely happy to see songs like Lady Dynamite, Survivor, Startin' and YOU!

Looks promising!

roxaskh2fm 19th October 2018 03:46 PM

This setlist is amazing!!!

AyuCanada 19th October 2018 04:05 PM

Not my kind of setlist, and I feel less than conviced about the Timmy show, but since Iast year was all about ballads (and I loved it) I understand the uptempo tour. Was the band on stage?

voguehoney 19th October 2018 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuCanada (Post 3288894)
Not my kind of setlist, and I feel less than conviced about the Timmy show, but since Iast year was all about ballads (and I loved it) I understand the uptempo tour. Was the band on stage?

no band

ayumi_ed 19th October 2018 04:23 PM

With PoM focusing on her classics, a tour with songs from her recent works is refreshing!

ayumi_croatia 19th October 2018 04:26 PM

I love the setlist. It looks really refreshing. Bonus points for including YOU!

Sandy 19th October 2018 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 3288883)
Welp I don’t like the set list at all...

Lady dynamite, aeternal, the way I am, you, merry go round, now & 4 eva and love song are the only songs I’m interested in seeing...

Not surprised it’s Tim-centric. His persona will continue to make me cringe, but that’s the way it is I guess...

Agree, can't wait for this Timmy-era to be over, I loved him in PoM 2011 but he does take the spotlight form Ayu :/

At least this setlist looks different and please let it be full version of YOU!!

SunshineSlayer 19th October 2018 05:09 PM

I'm so-so on the setlist; a couple of gems in there, but most have been overdone ad naseum over the last few years. Also, how is Words not on the list? lol

I DO like that she is finally doing something different with Boys & Girls though.

voltron 19th October 2018 05:26 PM

I really feel like her TA tours in 2015 & 2016 were to "experiment" with certain songs in a smaller venue, knowing that she'd have hall tours in her future. From this setlist, she performed 9 between the two tours for the recorded version, and at least 10 overall (Last Angel was performed the day before the finale in 2016, but swapped for 1 Love in the finale). 3 are completely new songs. So that leaves 6, most of which have been performed recently in other tours.

All that said, I'm sure the setlist will evolve a bit, and she is choosing songs that she feels confident in performing and that will work together, especially for when you are there in person.

relmy 19th October 2018 05:40 PM

Sounds like a show that it would be fun to attend and dance along, but not as fun to watch on DVD.

CeReSu 19th October 2018 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voguehoney (Post 3288869)
01 W
02 Lady Dynamite
03 1 LOVE
---Timmy Show---
04 The way I am (Acappella version)
05 æternal
06 Last angel
--------------------
07 Movin' on without you
08 Lelio
09 XOXO
--------------------
10 We are the QUEENS
11 Survivor
12 Startin'
13 Love song
14 NOW & 4EVA
---------------------
Encore ~Sorrow Instrumental~

15 YOU
16 Feel the love
17 Boys & Girls ~ Merry-go-round
18 The Show Must Go On
19 MY ALL

YEAAAAH I'm so happy! This setlist is amazing!!!

Earth_maiden 19th October 2018 06:35 PM

Timmy era will never be over unless he does a Leslie Kee on her, and he won't because he's not that kind of person. :laugh Every tour there's always some Timmy bashing, good old AHS.

mi|kshake 19th October 2018 07:08 PM

Setlist is looking good although XOXO feels like a "waste" to me, as in, there could be so many other better songs in it's place.

Loving the combo of WATQ and Survivor although disappointed that there's no band. The band seems to be there less and less often recently. I hope this doesn't become permanent.

Sky High 19th October 2018 07:49 PM

Setlist is nice, glad to se Merry-go-round.

EndOfTheWorld 19th October 2018 08:23 PM

Interesting setlist.:yes
Makes me curious to see how it all comes together. But Survivor? I think that is the only Ayu song I skip. So many better songs could have taken it's place. I'm trying to be optimistic about the "Timmy section" but I can't say I'm excited.
Startin, Last Angel, and YOU have got me the most hyped. I hope she doesn't get rid of YOU for the recording.

attractive nausea 19th October 2018 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mi|kshake (Post 3288917)
Setlist is looking good although XOXO feels like a "waste" to me, as in, there could be so many other better songs in it's place.

Loving the combo of WATQ and Survivor although disappointed that there's no band. The band seems to be there less and less often recently. I hope this doesn't become permanent.

She's touring was too often nowadays, I think she's preserving them from getting a burnout. I don't even know how her dancers keep up with rehearsing and touring non stop lol

RealLight 19th October 2018 10:33 PM

Apart from YOU being there, which is a lovely surprise, what a boring setlist. And can 1 LOVE just take a hike? I feel like it's been on every damn show since 2015.

Katsuyuki012 19th October 2018 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealLight (Post 3288927)
Apart from YOU being there, which is a lovely surprise, what a boring setlist. And can 1 LOVE just take a hike? I feel like it's been on every damn show since 2015.

CDL14-15, AT15, TA16 and well, this tour of course.

Deep snow 20th October 2018 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voguehoney (Post 3288869)
01 W
02 Lady Dynamite
03 1 LOVE
---Timmy Show---
04 The way I am (Acappella version)
05 æternal
06 Last angel
--------------------
07 Movin' on without you
08 Lelio
09 XOXO
--------------------
10 We are the QUEENS
11 Survivor
12 Startin'
13 Love song
14 NOW & 4EVA
---------------------
Encore ~Sorrow Instrumental~

15 YOU
16 Feel the love
17 Boys & Girls ~ Merry-go-round
18 The Show Must Go On
19 MY ALL

thank you for this! a really interesting set list in my opinion :yes

probably the only thing I object to is XOXO; I think that dumpster fire of a song should be erased from collective human memory :laugh

tokyoxjapanxfan 20th October 2018 12:33 AM

I wasn’t bashing him, I stated I dislike his persona. He’s talented otherwise. It’s just what he does on stage. I feel awkward and it takes me out of the concert. I don’t see how complaining about him is any different than complaining about songs or costumes. He’s part of the show. It’s not my fault he’s doing the same thing every time. *shrug*

krtman2002 20th October 2018 01:02 AM

Oh my god... the set list is pure gold! I love all of them. Maybe xoxo, 1love and now and 4eva are the worst for me, but still like them. I want to see this concert already!!!

cosmicfirefly 20th October 2018 01:36 AM

Not a bad setlist, most of the songs are pretty motivating too which is nice to see. Though I was hoping for Warning and I'm kind of tired of 1 LOVE at this point. It's a shame she didn't add WORDS, I mean TROUBLE is only 5 tracks after all. But I'm so glad to see Startin' on there!

Xianghua 20th October 2018 02:32 AM

So glad that The Way I Am was performed acapella! I really loved it during the LINE live.

As for WORDS, I've always found it a bit boring so I don't mind that it was missing :x
Happy with the setlist.

Katsuyuki012 20th October 2018 03:54 AM

Wish she performed WORDS as well. I really love that one but I find The Way I Am & æternal to be quite forgettable.. And the acapella version didn't do much for me either. It's good she is performing them, though since she should. It's called "TROUBLE Tour" after all and with so few new songs.. Hope she will add WORDS but overall it looks like a fine setlist.

It's good she doesn't only sing her old sings but uses a lot of newer stuff. She still needs new touring material IMO but it's a good setlist with some nice surprises.

FoxyPinkGirl 20th October 2018 05:48 AM

she just posted to instagram of her "selfie"ing during XOXO https://www.instagram.com/p/BpI_BlxH...on_share_sheet

jbrat2219 20th October 2018 06:36 AM

I like the setlist! Very high energy!

xLuna&1LOVE 20th October 2018 06:37 AM

^^ It is fun for us! But I would be really fed up with it, standing in the audience and seeing her constantly singing into her phone. Unless it is live connected to some big screen.

But hey... it is part of the art.

FoxyPinkGirl 20th October 2018 06:50 AM

^ me too

~angel*ayumi~ 20th October 2018 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xLuna&1LOVE (Post 3288948)
^^ It is fun for us! But I would be really fed up with it, standing in the audience and seeing her constantly singing into her phone. Unless it is live connected to some big screen.

But hey... it is part of the art.

I whouldn´t mind if it´s only for one song, as it´s parts of the PV for XOXO

FoxyPinkGirl 20th October 2018 07:08 AM

actually, if you look closely at the beginning of the video, they are projecting it on the big screen behind them on stage for the audience.

AyuWorld 20th October 2018 09:25 AM

Merry Go Round , I hope this will stay long and we will get to see it in the dvd,

xLuna&1LOVE 20th October 2018 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 3278691)
Why do i have a feeling, that by the next Saitama PoM date, we’re gonna get a full length album in March after her last TROUBLE concert

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~angel*ayumi~ (Post 3288950)
I whouldn´t mind if it´s only for one song, as it´s parts of the PV for XOXO

@freedreamer Please, be a witch and make your instincts and feelings come true!

@angel*ayumi
Yeah I understood that, it's part of the art - or the whole little world she created around XOXO. And it is fun too, don't get me wrong, I adored the video.

But I am glad FoxyPinkGirl noticed a big screen behind her to which the video is connected. In this way, it is still interactive.

I would dislike it if she ran for the entire song after her phone, trying to steal away from her friends/dancers/singers who steal it away from her. For 30 seconds it's cute. Longer than that, I would find annoying, as an audience.

Oh man it is so easy getting all caught up in your comment on a forum. I didn't mean to write an whole essay about it. I even like the video and that she recreated the PV on stage!!!!!! What's my problem? LOL

mi|kshake 20th October 2018 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deep snow (Post 3288932)
thank you for this! a really interesting set list in my opinion :yes

probably the only thing I object to is XOXO; I think that dumpster fire of a song should be erased from collective human memory :laugh

Haha yes agreed on XOXO! I don't mind it from time to time but it is a really basic RedOne production that adds nothing to her discography

~angel*ayumi~ 20th October 2018 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xLuna&1LOVE (Post 3288965)

Oh man it is so easy getting all caught up in your comment on a forum. I didn't mean to write an whole essay about it. I even like the video and that she recreated the PV on stage!!!!!! What's my problem? LOL

Haha yeah, happens all the time xD

Xianghua 20th October 2018 02:44 PM

Most recent Twitter update says we'll be getting a little spoiler movie like this from every day of the tour on the TA movie page.

But the question is will they stick with it, or will it be abandoned like everything else :rolleyes

attractive nausea 20th October 2018 03:07 PM

That would be so fun!

~angel*ayumi~ 20th October 2018 06:21 PM

btw was setlist the same on the 2nd day?

Aderianu 20th October 2018 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xianghua (Post 3288977)
Most recent Twitter update says we'll be getting a little spoiler movie like this from every day of the tour on the TA movie page.

But the question is will they stick with it, or will it be abandoned like everything else :rolleyes

TA members, please share those videos with us :love

if they will be posted...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~angel*ayumi~ (Post 3288989)
btw was setlist the same on the 2nd day?

according to rongayu weibo it was the same

truehappiness 20th October 2018 10:58 PM

I think people posted that the movie was just the same as what was on Instagram? Looking at it on TA, it seems to be the case.

LOGMAN 20th October 2018 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mi|kshake (Post 3288917)
The band seems to be there less and less often recently. I hope this doesn't become permanent.

I would suggest this is the new normal - likely the band will only be at big shows and Ayu's mostly going to be doing halls now.

truehappiness 20th October 2018 11:24 PM

I think the touring schedule is a bit too much lately for them to be there all the time since the band has their own engagements usually as well and Ayu's been touring nearly ALL YEAR as of late. Maybe whatever comes after TROUBLE's tour?

Xianghua 20th October 2018 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 3288994)
I think people posted that the movie was just the same as what was on Instagram? Looking at it on TA, it seems to be the case.

Yes, it was.

junshen 21st October 2018 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3288991)
TA members, please share those videos with us :love

if they will be posted...


according to rongayu weibo it was the same

16 Feel the love~Merry-go-round
17 Boys & Girls

Is the correct setlist.

AJFmzk 21st October 2018 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 3288998)
I think the touring schedule is a bit too much lately for them to be there all the time since the band has their own engagements usually as well and Ayu's been touring nearly ALL YEAR as of late. Maybe whatever comes after TROUBLE's tour?

Yeah, this is her third tour this year, that's intense. If the band is involved in this one at all I'd guess it's just for the Countdown Live, they were there for the 31 show last year if I remember correctly. I know Yusuke said he's doing some touring with Michiya Haruhata in December, but not on 31.

The setlist looks like it'd be a lot of fun to see in person, but on paper it seems like a mash up of TROUBLE, COLOURS and the TA 2016 setlist. It's not bad, but not really to my taste, though I'll have to reserve judgement until I actually see it. I much preferred the JTB 3 and POM setlists, though I do like that she threw in Startin', Merry-Go-Round YOU and Last Angel, I hope she keeps them for the final/broadcast/dvd. The whole Timmy thing is getting on my nerves though, he's too overpowering in the show lately. I was fine with him in POM 2011, CDL2013-14 and even Arena Tour 2015, but lately it's becoming like Hotel Love Songs era and it's becoming annoying and takes me out of the moment of the show, but that's just my opinion.

EndOfTheWorld 21st October 2018 01:38 AM

I think this tour may be catered to fans who enjoy Ayu's more recent material and her diva side of her personality. Just the beginning chapter 3 and Power Of Music 2018 seemed to cater to more traditional long time fans. But the tour goods for TROUBLE were retro themed so I don't know for sure yet. Based on the setlist I don't think this will be a new favorite tour of mine but I am interested to see what it is like. It might be filled with high energy and have a party vibe.:think

truehappiness 21st October 2018 02:10 AM

It's kind of weird how this show is so Colours oriented but I guess as an album it fits the vision. YOU is probably the biggest surprise of the whole thing IMO then maybe Merry-go-round mashed up with Boys & Girls.

AJFmzk 21st October 2018 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EndOfTheWorld (Post 3289003)
I think this tour may be catered to fans who enjoy Ayu's more recent material and her diva side of her personality. Just the beginning chapter 3 and Power Of Music 2018 seemed to cater to more traditional long time fans. But the tour goods for TROUBLE were retro themed so I don't know for sure yet. Based on the setlist I don't think this will be a new favorite tour of mine but I am interested to see what it is like. It might be filled with high energy and have a party vibe.:think

Yep, that's exactly my thinking. It could be a fun high energy tour though, I think people would enjoy more in person (which is more the point of lives anyway-to enjoy in person) or if you happen to be in the mood for it on dvd. I listen to colors on occasion when I'm feeling it, though it's not usually what I go for.
I'm a little confused about the goods since they don't really seem to match the theme, unless I'm missing something. I do really like the camo style goods though.

Zeke. 21st October 2018 05:44 AM

I can’t tell you how happy I was to hear The Show Must Go On. For a second I thought she was gonna end the show with Boys & Girls and I was already getting dissapointed thinking of the possibility I wouldn’t hear TSMGO after all. But te song ended and I though “ok if there’s ever a time, it’s now” and that ‘boom’ of TSMGO intro began and I shouted “YEEEAAHH!” and immediately began jumping up and down. I felt the tingling sensation of a rush of endorphins ooze from and blanket my brain and I was overcome with so much joy and energy. The BIGGEST smile on my face the whole time! Totally worth it just to experience that song live at least once!!

Overall though the setlist was full of mediocre / disliked tracks for me. If TSMGO wasn’t there I would’ve considered it a waste. I danced nonstop the majority of the concert, but when Survivor began I got so pissed, lol. It’s the one track I completely wiped from my hard drives and memory of existence. I was so mad I paid money to be served that, lol.

Songs I’m glad I heard:
1 LOVE
Last angel
Lelio
NOW & 4EVA
The Show Must Go On
MY ALL

And that’s being lenient. If I narrowed it down further to tracks I only consider a 10, it’s be 1 LOVE, Lelio, and The Show Must Go On

However, it was really special for me that she ended with MY ALL because it was the song she ended my first concert tour I attended in 2008 with, the song she ended my return to Japan last year with, and now ending the last concert of hers I’ll attend before leaving the country. So in my mind she thanked me for coming to see er in 2008, welcomed me back in 2017, and sent me off in 2018 all with that song.

The stage setup was way better than anything she’s done in the past year of touring. It was more flashy. But as far as satisfaction with the song choices and experience, I’d rank the tours I attended since coming back to Japan last year as such:

1. jtb 2
2. jtb 3
3. TROUBLE
4. PoM

~angel*ayumi~ 21st October 2018 08:14 AM

2nd video is up, it´s again from the same segment. (sry don´t know how to extract the video from the site)

Party_King 21st October 2018 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junshen (Post 3289000)
16 Feel the love~Merry-go-round
17 Boys & Girls

Is the correct setlist.

Really? So no "Boys & Girls ~ Merry-go-round" Medley?

~angel*ayumi~ 21st October 2018 08:33 AM

Setlist FM also says it´s B&G ~ MGR
Can someone who attended confirm what setlist is correct?

Zeke. 21st October 2018 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~angel*ayumi~ (Post 3289026)
Setlist FM also says it´s B&G ~ MGR
Can someone who attended confirm what setlist is correct?

It’s Feel the love〜MGR. Boys & Girls follows.

Earth_maiden 21st October 2018 12:41 PM

Sounds like you had a terrible time, Zeke!! :D

I'm still waiting for pictures of the outfits.

thinkingoutloud89 21st October 2018 02:23 PM

^really. it sounds like he hated it lol
Thats to bad, because the songs he liked would have been among the worst for me. Survivor is a greta song btw.

Xianghua 21st October 2018 02:28 PM

Hey, I just saw the Ayu money picture on the first page. Was it thrown out during a song/ which one?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3289017)
So in my mind she thanked me for coming to see er in 2008, welcomed me back in 2017, and sent me off in 2018 all with that song.

Aw, that's sweet.

Zeke. 21st October 2018 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3289049)
^really. it sounds like he hated it lol
Thats to bad, because the songs he liked would have been among the worst for me. Survivor is a greta song btw.

Haha, I wouldn’t say I “hated,” because I went into it accepting that being headlined by the TROUBLE album, it wouldn’t be better than what I’ve already witnessed. The only realistic hope I had was hearing TSMGO, which I did, so it’s a checkmark rather than an X solely for being granted that wish. I would have regretted not going if I saw the setlist after the fact and realized I missed the opportunity to experience that one track.

But yes, the rest of the tour I would have been perfectly fine missing. They weren’t “bucket list” experiences.

Earth_maiden 21st October 2018 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3289049)
^really. it sounds like he hated it lol
Thats to bad, because the songs he liked would have been among the worst for me. Survivor is a greta song btw.

My bad, I went back and fixed it. :D

hud 21st October 2018 04:03 PM

I think I need to get out of this forum. privileged people are unbearable sometimes lol. "me me me I I I I myself myself myself"

~angel*ayumi~ 21st October 2018 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xianghua (Post 3289050)
Hey, I just saw the Ayu money picture on the first page. Was it thrown out during a song/ which one?

Didn´t find out yet, i just saw that single pieces of that money sell for 3k+ Yen on Yahoo and such o.o

xLuna&1LOVE 21st October 2018 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowo (Post 3289061)
I think I need to get out of this forum. privileged people are unbearable sometimes lol. "me me me I I I I myself myself myself"

What's wrong? :(

~angel*ayumi~ 21st October 2018 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xLuna&1LOVE (Post 3289066)
What's wrong? :(

I think he is a bit upset because some ppl complain about setlists they don´t like, waste of money and such while others whould be happy to even afford the trip to a concert, no matter what she sings or how much she overreacts.

mi|kshake 21st October 2018 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOGMAN (Post 3288995)
I would suggest this is the new normal - likely the band will only be at big shows and Ayu's mostly going to be doing halls now.

Such a shame. Ayu's band are a huge part of her live shows for me. I was wondering if it was something to do with the budget as well.

Zeke. 22nd October 2018 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~angel*ayumi~ (Post 3289068)
I think he is a bit upset because some ppl complain about setlists they don´t like, waste of money and such while others whould be happy to even afford the trip to a concert, no matter what she sings or how much she overreacts.

I’d say to those people, save your fkn money and go then. Make some damn sacrifices. Get your priorities straight and stop longing for it. Anything is possible if you have the passion to map out the road to get there and the self discipline to follow it. I sacrificed and gave up a lot in order to see her my first time (sold car, walked miles to work and school daily, worked overtime, saved lunch money, ate nothing but cereal, shut myself off from activities and temptations), and I worked my ass off to get to Japan again this year (researched 6 scholarships and poured my soul into each application to be awarded them all). I was handed no priveleges - I made them!

Secondly, I refuse to lie about my judgements and emotions. I do not allow perceptions of how I should feel about something to mask my honest and authentic interpretations of it. As I said, TSMGO made it all worth it in the end, and I’m thankful having been able attend 4 separate concerts in a single year (3 of those twice), but it would be a lie to not admit it would have been a better show for me had she sang a few more of the songs I have left on my bucket list, rather than songs I avoid listening to and have been made to hear multiple times this past year. When you have no basis for comparison it’s easy, but seeing as this is my 8th time seeing her, it’s natural that my interpretation of this experience is stacked against my previous ones. My verdict is a personal one because of those factors, and likewise, another person’s verdict would be skewed in such a way that is appropriate to their own experiences.

tl;dr Don’t shame me simply because YOU’VE failed to get your act together.

xLuna&1LOVE 22nd October 2018 05:57 AM

^ Well, this is why I asked @snowo what is wrong and yes, publicly - because his/her comment comes out of blue. Still we don't know why he/she is upset. Could be because of the reasons @~angel*ayumi~ suggested. But now you assume it is because of your post. I read into it that you feel offended. It is maybe not about you. At least we don't know that, but therefore let's not assume the comment was made to shame you.

Kudo's btw to make such good choices. I try to save up every month hoping to get there as well. Hopefully she will be still around her 25th anniversairy, but ofc I hope I reach my goals earlier.

kotora 22nd October 2018 06:40 AM

AHS Drama Alert ~TROUBLE TOUR SPECIAL~

- Wow. TROUBLE TOUR is out only for two days. The drama is already very hot. The tea jumped in. Some people complain about the set list, the goods, and the money they spent, etc. THEY JUST COMPLAIN EVERYTHING. The tea is so hot.

- Some members can't stand for the complains and want to step out AHS. OMG OMG. How can this tea get settled down? We will see.

freedreamer 22nd October 2018 07:07 AM

Ayu decides to release surprise new album on AHS instead of AWA: DR(A)MA

BabyJane 22nd October 2018 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3289081)
I’d say to those people, save your fkn money and go then. Make some damn sacrifices. Get your priorities straight and stop longing for it. Anything is possible if you have the passion to map out the road to get there and the self discipline to follow it. I sacrificed and gave up a lot in order to see her my first time (sold car, walked miles to work and school daily, worked overtime, saved lunch money, ate nothing but cereal, shut myself off from activities and temptations), and I worked my ass off to get to Japan again this year (researched 6 scholarships and poured my soul into each application to be awarded them all). I was handed no priveleges - I made them!

Secondly, I refuse to lie about my judgements and emotions. I do not allow perceptions of how I should feel about something to mask my honest and authentic interpretations of it. As I said, TSMGO made it all worth it in the end, and I’m thankful having been able attend 4 separate concerts in a single year (3 of those twice), but it would be a lie to not admit it would have been a better show for me had she sang a few more of the songs I have left on my bucket list, rather than songs I avoid listening to and have been made to hear multiple times this past year. When you have no basis for comparison it’s easy, but seeing as this is my 8th time seeing her, it’s natural that my interpretation of this experience is stacked against my previous ones. My verdict is a personal one because of those factors, and likewise, another person’s verdict would be skewed in such a way that is appropriate to their own experiences.

tl;dr Don’t shame me simply because YOU’VE failed to get your act together.


I don't think it is always that easy to say that someone failed to get their act together. Everybody lives in a different situation. I for myself am unemployed and have to take care of my grandmother, who suffers from Alzheimers disease. I get 300 EURO a month and also have to pay expensive mediaction for myself, which my health insurance won't cover, but a relevant for me to get better.

How am I supposed to put aside money to afford a flight to Japan and back, hotel, concert ticket+goodies and everything else in Japan.

I admire you for your strength and decisions to make it to Japan and ayu's concert, but like I said it is not always simple.

Aderianu 22nd October 2018 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyJane (Post 3289098)
I for myself am unemployed and have to take care of my grandmother, who suffers from Alzheimers disease. I get 300 EURO a month

Damn, I want to be that unemployed and get 300 euro! I have full time job and recieve only around 235 euro at month

BabyJane 22nd October 2018 09:03 AM

^That is the money my grandmother gets from the nursing care insurance and she gives it to me for everything I do!!! Btw it's not like I get the money solely for myself. For expamle I also have to pay for gas to get my grandmother to her appointments, etc

It may not be a full time job you or others consider or define as a "full time job", but start taking care of loved ones that are sick with all its facettes and you know what a full time job this is!

kotora 22nd October 2018 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 3289096)
Ayu decides to release surprise new album on AHS instead of AWA: DR(A)MA

DON'T GIVE HER ANY IDEA. SHE IS WATCHING US! Damn it.

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Originally Posted by BabyJane (Post 3289098)
I don't think it is always that easy to say that someone failed to get their act together. Everybody lives in a different situation. I for myself am unemployed and have to take care of my grandmother, who suffers from Alzheimers disease. I get 300 EURO a month and also have to pay expensive mediaction for myself, which my health insurance won't cover, but a relevant for me to get better.

How am I supposed to put aside money to afford a flight to Japan and back, hotel, concert ticket+goodies and everything else in Japan.

I admire you for your strength and decisions to make it to Japan and ayu's concert, but like I said it is not always simple.

Sorry to hear that. If you want to support her, you can watch her music video on her Youtube channel or avex channel and she gets money from the advertisement (I guess she get that too?). You don't need to go to the tour for support her. Family and health is more important.

Andrenekoi 22nd October 2018 02:00 PM

It's far easier to save that amount of money if you live in the USA or Europe, as different countries will have different currencies and therefore this trip is far more expensive, when compared to everyday expenses, to people from some countries than it is for people from other countries.

But good for those who have a confortable enough life they can make going to Japan to watch Ayu a priority by making the huge sacrifice of walking a little.

Sandy 22nd October 2018 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EndOfTheWorld (Post 3289003)
I think this tour may be catered to fans who enjoy Ayu's more recent material and her diva side of her personality. Just the beginning chapter 3 and Power Of Music 2018 seemed to cater to more traditional long time fans. But the tour goods for TROUBLE were retro themed so I don't know for sure yet. Based on the setlist I don't think this will be a new favorite tour of mine but I am interested to see what it is like. It might be filled with high energy and have a party vibe.:think

That's one thing I like about the setlist, it's different from the few previous ones, however... it could have done better, XOXO / 1LOVE are so overplayed by now. But I can't judge more than this before having actually seen the concert :P

koumori 22nd October 2018 02:26 PM

Let's not compare lives. This is ridiculous and everyone has a different situation. You will always end up with your foot in your mouth since there will be so many people here who have never owned anything valuable enough to sell in the first place to get a ticket, nor have the circumstances to be able to put money aside for a trip abroad. I believe in celebrating people's successes but in remaining empathetic that not everyone has the chance to earn those opportunities.

Let's take this thread back to discussing the actual tour.

BabyJane 22nd October 2018 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kotora (Post 3289108)
Sorry to hear that. If you want to support her, you can watch her music video on her Youtube channel or avex channel and she gets money from the advertisement (I guess she get that too?). You don't need to go to the tour for support her. Family and health is more important.

Thank you for these nice words :shughug

I try to support her also by buying her releases (mostly as birthday or xmas presents), but I think it is every fans wish to see their idol live on stage. I will try to achieve this wish someday, but like I said it isn't always black and white.

alternarist 22nd October 2018 03:40 PM

It's a forum, everyone gets to express his/her own opinions.


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