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Impracticable 29th March 2007 04:31 AM

oh i know that. I love misono, by the way. And im deeply surprised by how low her solo sales have been. I expected never + land to sell at least 100,000

hiroshi_ben 29th March 2007 04:37 AM

hmm hopefully A BEST 2 will have better sales at the end of the year.

waltz#2 29th March 2007 04:50 AM

I've always considered masa to be a reliable source of information and insight, so as far as "9/11 influence and continuing her career after A BEST" goes, please consider the following:
Spoiler:
From the timidity and loss of self-confidence of "NEVER EVER", the loneliness and despair of "Endless sorrow" to the hope and unity of "UNITE!". What were the incidents which led to this desirable reversal drama? -- I suppose there were mainly two. One would be that she came to have confidence in others little by little while preparing for the Dome Tour (June 22 to July 7) together with many staffs. And the other would be the starting or the restarting of the association with Nagase Tomoya. It was later in September that she made it public. But, as she told what suggested it in a concert of the Dome Tour, I suppose it had started just around the time she wrote "UNITE!". (Otherwise, if she had recovered by herself without such a favourable turn in her private life, there is no words to describe it but amazing mental power.)
 Speaking of the Dome Tour, she fell down from the stage in a reharsal and got injured in the ligament of her leg. But as she was helped by many staffs after the accident, her mental conditions got even better. Moreover, after the concert in Osaka, she found a kindred spirit in D.A.I-san (Mr. Nagao Dai), whom she had not been on friendly terms with, and they tried to collaborate in composing. The song made in this way was "Dearest", a warm and tender song at a midium tempo, different from her previous songs in rock style.

[...]

The lyrics of "A Song is born" is, in fact, almost as same as the opening message of the Dome Tour with slight difference. But it doesn't mean that she was neglect in making it up. The incident of Sept. 11 certainly shocked her, but when she was going to write a lyrics from what she thought then, she noticed she had already uttered such words. In other words, her social concern had started to grow before the incident.

SunshineSlayer 29th March 2007 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impracticable (Post 1053214)
She was already touring. I already explained ALL of this. learn to read a post, jackass.

And you need to learn to argue with civility. There is no way to prove your 9/11 theory unless you were inside Ayu's head at the time. So please stop acting as if it's a fact. The same goes for anyone else's theory, since no one here was close enough to the situation to definitively say. She was against the release of A Best and for various reasons still decided to continue her career afterwards anyways - just leave it at that.

ayu_fan929 29th March 2007 01:30 PM

#16 for -WHITE- ; #18 for -BLACK-.

SkyDefender! 29th March 2007 01:54 PM

thats really bad :( :( :( its a best album but kumi kodas best albums sell so much more

Lee_Hamasaki 29th March 2007 05:06 PM

ayu at number 1 and number 2 in taiwan for the second week.
http://www.g-music.com.tw/GMusicBillboard3.aspx :luv2

waltz#2 29th March 2007 08:39 PM

^ Thanks! I was hoping at least - WHITE - would move up again.

Peger 29th March 2007 10:06 PM

At this rate, they may not hit 700K. Hopefully they'll have the staying power best albums usually have.

pop909 29th March 2007 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impracticable (Post 1053195)
no? that dosent even seem relevant in the least.
As i said, She would have her career go on after A BEST, but only until all her things scheduled were over.


Why are you talking about relevance when you are talking about the effect of 9/11 on A BEST in a A BEST II chart sales.

Impracticable 29th March 2007 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pop909 (Post 1053801)
Why are you talking about relevance when you are talking about the effect of 9/11 on A BEST in a A BEST II chart sales.

I'm not sure. I'm not the one who started the A BEST conversation ~~

cater2u 30th March 2007 05:13 AM

drop

Ayumiko 30th March 2007 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee_Hamasaki (Post 1053625)
ayu at number 1 and number 2 in taiwan for the second week.
http://www.g-music.com.tw/GMusicBillboard3.aspx :luv2

alright! :D successful taipei concert and A BEST 2 sales!

truehappiness 30th March 2007 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDefender! (Post 1053560)
thats really bad :( :( :( its a best album but kumi kodas best albums sell so much more

Uh, the Koda album that's out now is selling a looottt less than A BEST 2.. lol

Impracticable 30th March 2007 08:54 AM

yeh pretty much. that makes me fel all warm and fuzzy inside. XD

Lee_Hamasaki 30th March 2007 03:41 PM

best bounce and lovers is limited:irked

Peger 30th March 2007 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayumiko (Post 1054099)
alright! :D successful taipei concert and A BEST 2 sales!

Hopefully sales will go up b/c of the concert! It looks so far like A BEST 2 will repeat Secret's sucess in Taiwan.

Beyond the Sea 30th March 2007 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee_Hamasaki (Post 1054278)
best bounce and lovers is limited:irked

+ It's a Best with basically no new material. Unlike this one which comes with a concert and documentary. They're unevenly weighed. If you want a fair match, do Best ~second session~ and A BEST 2 -White-. The only way to save A Best 2 now is for avex to repackage it as A Best 2 B&W (2 CDs 2 DVDs), drop the concert, and give it a huge price drop. That'll put it back on the market. Secret could use a nice big price drop too to boost up sales.

Peger 30th March 2007 05:52 PM

I dunno, i think you can compare B&L to AB2. B&L has two new songs, new versions of her old hits, a new video, and the dance teaching video. A BEST 2 together probrably has the edge due to the new song and the concert, but overall the extras in each Best are pretty much equal. Also, it's not quite clear whether B&L is limited and to what extent that limit applies. I think you can compare them, but you have to take into consideration B&L's possible limitations.

babamon 30th March 2007 06:12 PM

#13 for white and #14 for black today! White went up 3 places and black went up 4 places :)

Ayaka's First message went back to top 20 again :O

Ayumiko 30th March 2007 09:00 PM

thats good they went up :D All the albums above A BEST 2 on the chart except for one album were released after A BEST 2. so I think its very good already its still in the top 20.

ayu_fan929 30th March 2007 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j_nerd (Post 1054321)
+ It's a Best with basically no new material. Unlike this one which comes with a concert and documentary. They're unevenly weighed. If you want a fair match, do Best ~second session~ and A BEST 2 -White-. The only way to save A Best 2 now is for avex to repackage it as A Best 2 B&W (2 CDs 2 DVDs), drop the concert, and give it a huge price drop. That'll put it back on the market. Secret could use a nice big price drop too to boost up sales.

Remember those people saying after they saw the success of ~second session~? "If Ayu released an A BEST 2 it would own ~second session~'s sales..." :innocent

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peger (Post 1054363)
I dunno, i think you can compare B&L to AB2. B&L has two new songs, new versions of her old hits, a new video, and the dance teaching video.

Wasn't it only 1 new song?

greggerz189 30th March 2007 09:47 PM

WHOA! It really dropped in rank!!

Peger 30th March 2007 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1054487)
Remember those people saying after they saw the success of ~second session~? "If Ayu released an A BEST 2 it would own ~second session~'s sales..." :innocent


Wasn't it only 1 new song?

Ashita e and taisetsuna kimi e. I believe they're both new, but i could be wrong since i don't have her first three albums.

~X2RADialbomber~ 30th March 2007 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peger (Post 1054503)
Ashita e and taisetsuna kimi e. I believe they're both new, but i could be wrong since i don't have her first three albums.

Yeah, they were b-sides and were never released on any albums. (Taisetsuna Kimi e is the B-Side of Butterfly, but I'm not sure about Ashita e)

truehappiness 31st March 2007 12:55 AM

Supposedly "Ashita E" was some "omg song" that was penned by some guy as a new songs for B&Lz.

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 31st March 2007 01:11 AM

the concert would do **** all for the DVD sales, this is just selling on her back catalogue alone. This would have owned second sessions easily if it was released earlier and had a ******** of new material.

truehappiness 31st March 2007 01:20 AM

I think it's unfair to compare AB2 with that -SS- album.

Like, there was a crapload of indirect promotion [12 weeks of singles leading up until the album.. :|] and there's also the fact that Koda was at her peak at the time :|

Peger 31st March 2007 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1054571)
Supposedly "Ashita E" was some "omg song" that was penned by some guy as a new songs for B&Lz.

I found it sort of forgetable. I've noticed that a lot of songs made just for Best albums are sort of lacklustre...

immel 31st March 2007 01:37 AM

Uhh, sales progressing like expected. Seems Ayu has set a very definite standard on how her recent sales look. I expect the next week drop will be around 40%.

Peger 31st March 2007 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by immel (Post 1054601)
Uhh, sales progressing like expected. Seems Ayu has set a very definite standard on how her recent sales look. I expect the next week drop will be around 40%.

I think it's a bit strange that her best album's are struggling to beat out her latest studio album, though. Maybe best albums are losing their apeal in general these days.

ayu_fan929 31st March 2007 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peger (Post 1054503)
Ashita e and taisetsuna kimi e. I believe they're both new, but i could be wrong since i don't have her first three albums.

Ashita e is the only new song. It was penned by Tokunaga Hideaki (I think that's how you spell it)

Yukitora 31st March 2007 08:25 AM

...and it was just as dissapointing as part of Me <_<

It's ayu equalivant should actually be RAINBOW heh... new, first track of ballad album.

truehappiness 31st March 2007 09:14 AM

Hey, I liked part of Me :<

immel 31st March 2007 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peger (Post 1054616)
I think it's a bit strange that her best album's are struggling to beat out her latest studio album, though. Maybe best albums are losing their apeal in general these days.

Hmm? Secret ended up selling 670k~, (miss)understood around 880k. MY STORY was released almost 3 years ago now, that's a long period in an artists career. I don't think they're loosing their appeal at all, it's just what happens when an artist loose fans willing to buy the actual CDs. Plus that CD sales will, in general, never again be able to reach the heights they used to a few years back.

somethinglost 31st March 2007 10:32 AM

I thought (m)u sold 880K....?

Anyway, I think AB2 will sell atleast 700K, which is good. :]

immel 31st March 2007 10:37 AM

That's true... um, my memory totally fails me.

Uh, it should be added to my previous post that I view the two A BEST 2 albums as one album. No matter if it's the same fans buying 2 of it.

tourniquet 31st March 2007 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1054738)
Hey, I liked part of Me :<

heard the previews, heard the full song via PV. absolutely forgettable.

Lee_Hamasaki 31st March 2007 06:48 PM

http://www.g-music.com.tw/GMusicBillboard3.aspx
this week in taiwan ayu is still on top! :lech

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 31st March 2007 11:37 PM

get over the sales you stupid ppl
you just CAN´T enjoy a cd without looking at how many people bought it

kiseki89 1st April 2007 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1054738)
Hey, I liked part of Me :<

ditto!

Peger 1st April 2007 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by immel (Post 1054779)
That's true... um, my memory totally fails me.

Uh, it should be added to my previous post that I view the two A BEST 2 albums as one album. No matter if it's the same fans buying 2 of it.

That was why i was worried, though. If the same people are buying each version of A BEST 2 and it doesn't look like either version will outsell Secret by too much, that means not many more people were willing to buy her best album. Things might be changing, but best albums used to have widespread appeal since anyone with a slight interest in the artist would pick the album up, but this seems to imply that people aren't that interested in Ayu anymore. Given Kuu's best of flop though, best albums might just not be opular anymore. I guess we'll be able to tell in a fe months.

Yukitora 1st April 2007 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1054738)
Hey, I liked part of Me :<

Me too, but it doesn't mean I was dissapointed :tipsy

Wow. 670k seems really high to me for some reason! I think it's great Secret sold that much. It's a great album and deserves its sales.

truehappiness 1st April 2007 09:42 PM

If you still go to school, think about how many people go to your school and multiply it by.. 300,000. LOL~

That's a lot of CDs.

ayu_fan929 1st April 2007 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peger (Post 1055785)
That was why i was worried, though. If the same people are buying each version of A BEST 2 and it doesn't look like either version will outsell Secret by too much, that means not many more people were willing to buy her best album. Things might be changing, but best albums used to have widespread appeal since anyone with a slight interest in the artist would pick the album up, but this seems to imply that people aren't that interested in Ayu anymore. Given Kuu's best of flop though, best albums might just not be opular anymore. I guess we'll be able to tell in a fe months.

I think they still have appeal. It might be just avex BEST albums that seem to not do spectacular lately.

immel 1st April 2007 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1055969)
I think they still have appeal. It might be just avex BEST albums that seem to not do spectacular lately.

In general none of the avex artists seem to do spectacularly, compared to boy bands that is. They still rule the solo singer market.

truehappiness 2nd April 2007 12:21 AM

Boybands have crap album sales though.

Manbands on the other hand..

ayu_fan929 2nd April 2007 01:31 AM

Johnny's and bands in general usually have high single sales. Solo artists usually have high album sales.

Of course, there are exceptions like Mr. Children since they have both high single and album sales.

truehappiness 2nd April 2007 06:38 AM

I wonder just what category B'z, SAS, and Misuchiru are under.. x.x

Peger 2nd April 2007 07:01 AM

They're just bands, i think. Though they're also sort of legends now, lol.

namiie 2nd April 2007 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukitora (Post 1048547)
Last year BEST ~second sessions~ and ken hirai's utabaka were only a few thousand off the 1 mil mark for first week sales. But they weren't duel releases.

Erm... the two BESTs won't make the top 10 at this rate.... but combined her sales will around the same as lasts years if not more.

Mr. Children has been known to have several million-selling-a-week albums in the past.

I'll be happy if both albums reach like 800K or something. Ayu's music hasn't dropped in quality, but it's a shame that her album sales have.

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1056331)
I wonder just what category B'z, SAS, and Misuchiru are under.. x.x


Dunno what the others are, but B'z is the highest selling Japanese music act of all time, with over 80 million albums sold. They've been charttoppers for like...17 years. D:

truehappiness 2nd April 2007 07:31 AM

Yeah, almost as long as I've been alive! D:

dayumi 2nd April 2007 01:06 PM

A BEST 2 -WHITE- is #10 now!! and BLACK is #11!!! great job Ayu..
now A BEST 2 is on top 10!

Lee_Hamasaki 2nd April 2007 01:08 PM

really nice!! maybe tomorrow both a best 2 will be in top ten

CHAS_AYU 2nd April 2007 01:13 PM

It's great to hear that 1.9 million A BEST 2 has shipped!

somethinglost 3rd April 2007 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tourniquet (Post 1054929)
heard the previews, heard the full song via PV. absolutely forgettable.

I thought that about "part of Me" when it first came out too, but it was anything but forgettable for me. The whole repetition of the chorus really got me after a while. It's similar to many of Ayu's previous ballads, but it is still good. I love the melody and the eagerness in Ayu's voice. I think it wasn't the best choice to promote AB2, but that doesn't mean that it is a forgettable or bad song. :]

---------------------

You guys act like it's the end of the world because Ayu isn't debuting with 1,000,000 in sales with each album anymore. She's been a massive figure in Japan for nearly 10 years, she isn't the hottest thing out there anymore, but people still love her and her music. Also, I think with AB2, it will stay in the charts for best part of the rest of the year, so it may not sell huge amounts every week, but it will keep on chugging away and will eventually sell a respectable amount. Ayu, like any diva, will have her comeback. ^_^

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 3rd April 2007 06:38 AM

She's already like the highest selling female artist of 2007 in total.


and, if not, then very close.

s1012h 3rd April 2007 07:29 AM

she's the coolest person in japan
so it's all good
her sales are already amazing by themselves, and jawdropping when combined
although i'm still a bit sad that BLACK didn't get #1 weekly

Ayumiko 3rd April 2007 07:30 AM

I think as of now koda is selling a little bit more...with the sales of black cherry, BEST B&L, BUT/aisho, second session dvd...and ayu only have a little bit of sales from secret and then A BEST 2 black and white.

truehappiness 3rd April 2007 09:09 AM

Well that's obvious to anyone.

But in the long term, it's also obvious that Ayu has sold a ton more than Koda, so meh.

~X2RADialbomber~ 3rd April 2007 09:14 AM

Here we go again with the Koda-talk...

Ayumiko 3rd April 2007 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1057280)
Well that's obvious to anyone.

But in the long term, it's also obvious that Ayu has sold a ton more than Koda, so meh.

ofcourse since ayu is the 4th best selling artist of Japan history...and the 1st for female solo artist :D

truehappiness 3rd April 2007 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~X2RADialbomber~ (Post 1057281)
Here we go again with the Koda-talk...

Really, it's like inevitable. :(

~X2RADialbomber~ 3rd April 2007 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1057347)
Really, it's like inevitable. :(

Well don't encourage it then :P

'zomg ayu already sold tons more than ayu!!~'

Who cares? Kuu is the best :mischief

icy_iven 3rd April 2007 12:52 PM

Week 5

15 *14,168 *,660,647 浜崎あゆみ (WHITE)
16 *13,265 *,646,264 浜崎あゆみ (BLACK)

other info (if you are interested):

*1 350,045 *,350,045 大塚愛 
*2 *93,946 *,967,827 Mr.Children
*6 *32,261 *,241,077 倖田來未

ayu_fan929 3rd April 2007 01:36 PM

Finally a week where sales didn't drop like crazy. It'll be easy for both albums to outsell 'Secret' since it already dropped out of the charts.

elepop 3rd April 2007 01:40 PM

Thanks icy_iven!

I guess both will outsell "Secret" soon! There's no way it's gonna beat "(m)u".

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~X2RADialbomber~ (Post 1057349)
Who cares? Kuu is the best :mischief

No, not really. Actually, no. Not at all.

haruki 3rd April 2007 01:56 PM

... i dun really understand why people are complaining... Ayu has been out there for 10 years and the fact that she can still maintain this imply that she is really good already. i believe there are many singers that couldnt even maintain for a single year.

hiroshi_ben 3rd April 2007 02:28 PM

^yap...u made a good point there...ayu is already considered very good as compared to other artists since she's going to reach her 10th year anniversay soon

yamogi 3rd April 2007 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~X2RADialbomber~ (Post 1057349)

Who cares? Kuu is the best :mischief

you somehow piss me off :mischief

Peger 3rd April 2007 03:18 PM

Finally, no 50%+ drop. Hopefully she keeps selling over 10k for a few weeks:P .

It's kind of unfair to compare Kuu's overall sales to Ayu's, since Kuu peaked when the industry was a lot weaker than when Ayu did.

Hatix 4th April 2007 09:41 AM

Just saw the new daily rankings and something weird happened. After so many weeks, -black- is better selling than -white-. This is only the second time in daily rankings that black was better selling than white, since the first time being the very first day. Could this be a new trend? Or is it just for today, we'll see in the next days :)
But both versions will definitely outsell Secret, in 1 or 2 weeks. Now hope for one of them to reach 700K :)

~X2RADialbomber~ 4th April 2007 09:43 AM

I can't believe some of you took my joke seriously. Maybe next time I have to put an influx of emoticons for you to understand.

I think she sold very well this week, and it comparison to Mr Children

truehappiness 4th April 2007 10:06 AM

Yeah, I think you might.. or some italics or bolds..

Oh well.

Her total sales are still really high for a dual release at this point in time.. I wonder how someone else would do if they did such a release..

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 4th April 2007 10:12 AM

Well 2007 so far,

Ayu:

A BEST 2 = 1,306,911
Secret = 170,825

TOTAL: 1,477,736

Koda:

But / Aishou = 87,512
Black Cherry = 976,029
BEST ~Bounce & Lovers~ = 208,816

TOTAL: 1,272,357

205,370 difference.

I dunno if the sales or any of it for CG go towards 2007, I can't be bothered to check, either way it makes no real difference.

Yeah, I pointed it out, so what. :P

truehappiness 4th April 2007 10:39 AM

:rolleyes

freedreamer 4th April 2007 12:22 PM

thats for those stats..im glad haa

~X2RADialbomber~ 4th April 2007 12:50 PM

Whoa, I love you Kingofpop! Well I wouldn't really care anyway, but it's about time ayu's beating that koda girl.

Enfluerage 4th April 2007 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingofpop (Post 1058305)
Well 2007 so far,

Ayu:

A BEST 2 = 1,306,911
Secret = 170,825

TOTAL: 1,477,736

Koda:

But / Aishou = 87,512
Black Cherry = 976,029
BEST ~Bounce & Lovers~ = 208,816

TOTAL: 1,272,357

205,370 difference.

I dunno if the sales or any of it for CG go towards 2007, I can't be bothered to check, either way it makes no real difference.

Yeah, I pointed it out, so what. :P

I think with that end-of sales award (forgot what it was called), I thought it is counted from December 06 (ie: Secret's sales is more than 170k) to December 07, and it is not sales but revenue.

So currently, Hamasaki Ayumi would rank much higher

Lee_Hamasaki 4th April 2007 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingofpop (Post 1058305)
Well 2007 so far,

Ayu:

A BEST 2 = 1,306,911
Secret = 170,825

TOTAL: 1,477,736

Koda:

But / Aishou = 87,512
Black Cherry = 976,029
BEST ~Bounce & Lovers~ = 208,816

TOTAL: 1,272,357

205,370 difference.

I dunno if the sales or any of it for CG go towards 2007, I can't be bothered to check, either way it makes no real difference.

Yeah, I pointed it out, so what. :P

where is the sense in that?
secret 170 and black cherry 976?

black cherry released the 20th of december, not in 2007..
so bc approximately sold 400k in 2007

ayu_fan929 4th April 2007 01:45 PM

Since Oricon will include anything that sold in 2007, here's what I got

Ayu
Secret: 170,825
A BEST: 2,935
A BEST 2 (combined): 1,306,911
(m)u LIVE: 8,268
Total: 1,488,939

Kuu
Pre 2007 releases that lapped onto the 2007 Oricon year*: 104,350
Black Cherry: 984,753
~BOUNCE~: 241,077
BUT/Aishou: 103,696
~second session~ LIVE: 76,434
Total: 1,510,310

* includes Yume no Uta/~first things~ CD/~second session~ CD/~first things~ DVD/Cherry Girl.

So they pretty much sold the same amount so far in 2007.

Lee_Hamasaki 4th April 2007 02:49 PM

ok but u can't count ALL sales of Bc and only 20% of Secret...

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 4th April 2007 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee_Hamasaki (Post 1058399)
where is the sense in that?
secret 170 and black cherry 976?

black cherry released the 20th of december, not in 2007..
so bc approximately sold 400k in 2007

I think the Oricon year starts berfore the 1st of Jan.

Now to something completely different. I will continue to get extreme pleasure from looking at the sales of A BEST 2 individually and BEST ~BL~

Now I can't wait to see Namie and Utadas upcoming album sales, I hope they do so good which will most likely happen.

hiroshi_ben 4th April 2007 04:53 PM

u had miscounted some of ayu sales...secret and (miss)understood arena tour won't sell so low..

Peger 4th April 2007 05:35 PM

Oricon began the year with the 12/13 week, so Secret's first two weeks aren't counted in.

njanjayrp 4th April 2007 08:45 PM

well, it woul donly be fair to count the total sales of Secret, and to be honest Ku had more releases.So when u put it like this, Ayu's still selling just fine.

DerrickRocks 4th April 2007 08:56 PM

ahhhhh?!!!leave kuu out of this focus on Ayu's sales. one is not better than the other come on now! i thought you guys stopped this..Ayu was banned from being talked about in the kuu thread... because it upsets alot of people. i love them both why can't fans co exist...

Peger 4th April 2007 09:00 PM

If people were more mature, there wouldn't be a need for a ban. I guess some people just can't resist starting innane fights over artists.

ayumisrael 4th April 2007 09:02 PM

A BEST 2 sales are doing great ^_^

ayu_fan929 4th April 2007 09:21 PM

I don't see why people think it's "unfair" since...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peger (Post 1058566)
Oricon began the year with the 12/13 week, so Secret's first two weeks aren't counted in.


DerrickRocks 4th April 2007 10:54 PM

^ people are trying to upset ayu fans either it be intentionally or unintentionally. Everyone has different taste in music. Its nature people dont hate ayu as a person or kuu i hope. They just dont like their music...

truehappiness 5th April 2007 12:58 AM

You know, shouldn't any talk of Koda be banned from the Ayumi Hamasaki forums section of this forum? :|

I mean, it's not like there's any real reason for her to ever bring her up in an Ayu news thread..

[I'm just being real here. :<]

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 5th April 2007 01:01 AM

^ Very True, should be banned 110%

ayu_fan929 5th April 2007 01:36 AM

But didn't you say it was inevitable?

Peger 5th April 2007 02:42 AM

The problem is, people should be mature enough to compare sales between two artists without everything turning into a flame war. I don't understand why Kuu is the one coming under attack all the time anyway. At least she and Ayu are on the same label; Ayaka's new album outsold Secret by a lot yet no one's complaining about her.

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 5th April 2007 03:05 AM

Ayaka deserves to sell that much.

Peger 5th April 2007 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingofpop (Post 1059007)
Ayaka deserves to sell that much.

That's all opinion though. Personally, i felt Ayaka's album was bland and relied entirely on her voice. She has a great one, sure, but a good album takes more than that. An hour of power ballads that sound the same doesn't deserve to hit a million, imo.

Tasked 5th April 2007 08:42 AM

Ayu's really gonna fall of the charts soon; but at least it's awesome that it's still IN the charts now.. Almost all of the albums that are in the top20 are quite new releases..

WillofDusk 5th April 2007 09:08 AM

Combine her shipped n sold copies we've got more than 3mi, that's really something.
She's still far beyond the very top artist of Japan.

truehappiness 5th April 2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1058968)
But didn't you say it was inevitable?

Yeah, that's the point.

Stop it from being inevitable by stopping it altogether. :|


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