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ren0210989 24th October 2008 03:16 PM

definetly no new album in January!!!!!
then there really wouldn't be any point of releasing a single in the middle of december!!!!!!

there's no way she'll release a new album before July, there's no time.
it takes about a month to finish 1 song and that's without counting in the part of writing lyrics and studio recording if you want a quality song (i know because a friend of mine has his own recording studio).

and she really needs to take a break and relax for a month of two, so NO NEW ALBUM until early summer!!!!!!

Melrose 24th October 2008 03:19 PM

@sitara: yea good point lol. Western albums are so short!

@ayumiisr: Yea, okeeey. =p But it still feels short.

roanmy 24th October 2008 03:32 PM

I am rreally glad it's a double A side with two PVs! ^_~

And GREEN sounds so cool!!!

v3lun420 24th October 2008 04:20 PM

Sorry, I am too lazy to go over every page, but are they up for pre-order yet?

ayu_fantasy 24th October 2008 04:22 PM

yay!!! COOL!!

aura~ 24th October 2008 04:36 PM

I also think is a bad idea to release an album on 1/1... first she doesn't have enough time to prepare it... second the single would be meaningless and a B&D/pride II, and third to make an album with this short time means songs won't be as good as all of we want... so have patient and wait for a really good album for 2009... is better for ayu in my opinion....

and moreover... she have tro prepare CDL right?? it won't be the first year w/o CDL!... no no.. no time for an album...

Luv ~Venus~ 24th October 2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by v3lun420 (Post 1676426)
Sorry, I am too lazy to go over every page, but are they up for pre-order yet?

I believe so! Just check ayumisrael or LucasClyne siggy. :) There might be a thread for in the section as well.

ayumisrael 24th October 2008 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by walking.proud (Post 1676447)
I also think is a bad idea to release an album on 1/1... first she doesn't have enough time to prepare it... second the single would be meaningless and a B&D/pride II, and third to make an album with this short time means songs won't be as good as all of we want... so have patient and wait for a really good album for 2009... is better for ayu in my opinion....

and moreover... she have tro prepare CDL right?? it won't be the first year w/o CDL!... no no.. no time for an album...

If there won't be a countdown this will be the first year without a countdown.
There always was a countdown since 2000-2001. (2003-2004's CDL was a part of the tour.
There were 2001-2002 and 2002-2003 they just didn't have individual DVDs.)
So yeah, every year since 2000 had a CDL XD and I don't think that this year will be exception.

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1676451)
I believe so! Just check LucasClyne siggy. :) There might be a thread for in the section as well.

I completely forgot to change it! :laugh
I'm still with AC pre-orders links lol, going to change it thanks XD

encore_peace 24th October 2008 04:46 PM

yes i agree with walking.proud. I think ayu really needs more time to prepare and get some rest as well...:)

SolarAngel 24th October 2008 04:50 PM

^Oh yeah normally countdowns would be partly be a promotion of her new album or at least give some awareness to it. If there's no new album this year, then it would purely be a new year celebration concert. I agree that MA was a fantastic mini-album in that all the songs had their own unique quality and arrangement. She also spaced out creating the songs very well in 2003. This year, i get the impression that MW and Life came out in jan and feb and there was nothing in between for a loooooong time until now with Days and GREEN which begs the question, is ayu losing her rigour for writing songs? I think so :dead2

If a mini-album comes out, oh well. I'm going to buy it anyway. Who knows, the songs may be fabulous. And we are finally getting a single. That should show she is back on track. I think her tour this year is way too spaced out. It's too distracting for her and her staff probably. What are the concerns for this single becoming a B&D/Pride II? Song quality wise or sales wise? Personally i thought B&D/Pride was quite a strong single (i really adore Pride), just that it was too close to the release date of (m)u.

Max_ZZZ 24th October 2008 05:03 PM

well, if her new album DOES come out april 8th,
then after this single we won't really have another single

when would she have it, february? 2 months before a new album?

its going to be only two singles or one more digital single if she releases in april

but if not april not at all until end of next year right? someone was saying how ayu never has early year releases

tourniquet 24th October 2008 05:16 PM

she released all her best ofs till A COMPLETE in the first quarter of the new year, but never an original album beyond january 1st. so I think she'll stick with the two single-scheme and put out an album... yeah, the question is when.

Melrose 24th October 2008 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 1676140)
Mini album is not a bad idea, as long as her songs are superior, just like the ones in Ma. The thing is, Life is not that wonderful, and from the preview GREEN isn't that great as well. Right now I feel that I'm going through the stage (again) that I'm not too fond of ayu's music at this moment (last time occurred between I am and RAINBOW).

Either way, I still dun wanna see a new album in Jan 01, 2009. It would be too rush.

You didn't like the RAINBOW singles? o-o

Corvina 24th October 2008 05:32 PM

Wow, 4 versions...argh, my wallet crys! ;_;
Well I'll probably buy CD+DVD versions of both.

v3lun420 24th October 2008 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1676451)
I believe so! Just check ayumisrael or LucasClyne siggy. :) There might be a thread for in the section as well.

Thanks a lot luv, I just pre-ordered it

Melrose 24th October 2008 07:01 PM

Wait, no Mirrorcle World remix? That's weird.. I wonder what the Progressive Remix is for then.

ayumisrael 24th October 2008 07:24 PM

I wonder though when the new oricon year will start?
Will the sales be splitted between 2008-2009 oricon years or it's starting at Days/GREEN release date?

Raleigh 24th October 2008 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1676618)
I wonder though when the new oricon year will start?
Will the sales be splitted between 2008-2009 oricon years or it's starting at Days/GREEN release date?

I'm curious about this too. However at this stage I think Ayu doesn't really care about sales so much.

ayumisrael 24th October 2008 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk (Post 1676638)
I'm curious about this too. However at this stage I think Ayu doesn't really care about sales so much.

Since ayu became a millionare I think that the money became a bit less important but for our avex friends, money is the most important thing on earth. (Like every company but we know avex) XD.

It's warming to see though the support and high sales ayu get and that she's doing well and a lot of people like her music or interested in this or that song. ^_^

Yoake 24th October 2008 09:27 PM

kyaaaaaaaaaaaa I want I want I want

njanjayrp 24th October 2008 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1676618)
I wonder though when the new oricon year will start?
Will the sales be splitted between 2008-2009 oricon years or it's starting at Days/GREEN release date?

Atm the only other example I can think of was sweetbox's COMPLETE BEST which was released in December 2007 but it's on top 100 oricon of 2008 and the sales aren't split up.

ayumisrael 24th October 2008 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1676738)
Atm the only other example I can think of was sweetbox's COMPLETE BEST which was released in December 2007 but it's on top 100 oricon of 2008 and the sales aren't split up.

It was out on 12th December so if it's true so Days/GREEN will be counted in 2009 oricon year, yay!

Raleigh 24th October 2008 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1676677)
Since ayu became a millionare I think that the money became a bit less important but for our avex friends, money is the most important thing on earth. (Like every company but we know avex) XD.

It's warming to see though the support and high sales ayu get and that she's doing well and a lot of people like her music or interested in this or that song. ^_^

True but I figure that as long as she sells well they won't really bother. So I don't think they are worried about how it will chart on Oricon if on 2008 or 2009. Unless they plan to milk it for all it is worth.

Kikaru 24th October 2008 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk (Post 1676821)
True but I figure that as long as she sells well they won't really bother. So I don't think they are worried about how it will chart on Oricon if on 2008 or 2009. Unless they plan to milk it for all it is worth.

I was actually surprised that avex isn't milking more out of Ayu's 10th anniversary.

My theory with the four CD jackets is that they saw the four CD covers with MW, and the sales did go up, and Mirrorcle World technically isn't really a new song, and they're repeating the four single jacket thing.

I think the best logical time for an album release is probably in February/march if she wants a full album. Granted, MA did pull off the sales with No way to say only a month ahead of time, but I hope marketing-wise, they learn their lesson from B&D in term of release time (But then again, it's avex...)

Raleigh 24th October 2008 11:52 PM

I am also pretty surprised that her 10th anniversary wasn't so eventful. Thought they'd end up releasing so much stuff. In the end though I suspect Ayu just wants to slow down her career. She's achieved pretty much everything she had to achieve and now she wants to enjoy her life.

Probably you're right about the four jackets. They realised that the goodies attract more sales so I'm guessing there will be more first presses extra in the future.

Well I do hope this time she'll spend some time to release her album and give time to her fans to buy the single. I don't want her releasing an album in January just to have an album out. MA pulled off the sales because she was extremely popular and now I doubt she can pull if off again. Hope avex figures that out too..

maikaru 25th October 2008 12:14 AM

If this was 2001 ayumi time, whatever Ayumi put out, people will buy.

But in this era, even I think Avex knows that they cant do it.
People just don't buy much of physical music anymore.
If you think about it, like, the top selling album of this year will only make 1.5 million.
And during Ayumi's peak, 4 - 6 million was so common.
So I understand why Avex knew that putting out all these things for her Anniversary is unrealistic.
They will probably lose money before gaining. T T

I think.. in a few years time, what happened to Namie will happen to Ayumi.
A slump for some years, and then able to sell 1 million once again. LOL
At least, that's what I hope~

And I was thinking about her vocal situation right now.
It's exactly the same thing that happened during Surreal.
She was singing so well in lives, then suddenly bam, for Audience, and all those singles,
It was so horrible. LOL.
So we just have to wait some time, she will return to her good vocal standings~
Without complaints~ I will wait~

So I think, yeah, we just have to wait and see about this single..
It will do well, I think, its been a good wait.
And people seem to be responding well to this song, Green..

Hopefully days can be an equally exciting song.

Melrose 25th October 2008 12:28 AM

@ ^: I agree 200% :yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk (Post 1676846)
I am also pretty surprised that her 10th anniversary wasn't so eventful. Thought they'd end up releasing so much stuff. In the end though I suspect Ayu just wants to slow down her career. She's achieved pretty much everything she had to achieve and now she wants to enjoy her life.

Probably you're right about the four jackets. They realised that the goodies attract more sales so I'm guessing there will be more first presses extra in the future.

Well I do hope this time she'll spend some time to release her album and give time to her fans to buy the single. I don't want her releasing an album in January just to have an album out. MA pulled off the sales because she was extremely popular and now I doubt she can pull if off again. Hope avex figures that out too..

Well it's pretty logical that all those tricks work for sales, or they wouldn't have done it for MW and BLUE BIRD in the first place. =p

tokyoxjapanxfan 25th October 2008 01:12 AM

even though her popularity (musically wise) is going down from her peak era, it's really nice to see people's expressions when I tell them I love Ayu. They're amazed and then proceed to tell me their favorite songs, and it's just a genuine admiration for Ayu...it's so nice :D There's a lot of respect for her, in my experience, at least.

alternarist 25th October 2008 06:24 AM

i still feel that ayu's way to celebrate her 10th anniversary is to get closer to her fans. and thats why this yr's ASIA TOUR is exceptionally long and grand.. :)

yoshino 25th October 2008 09:35 AM

wow.. I'm happy to know abt this release!! A Double A-sided single sounds so great! The covers must be nice!! hahaz.
oh great! 4 versions. N more 10th anniversary ver.!!! They are making me so wanna get this single. :luv2

FoObY 25th October 2008 09:37 AM

Hopefully she'll have two very different covers for both versions, kind of like ayaka's Why/CLAP&LOVE & CLAP&LOVE/Why

miroro 25th October 2008 10:58 AM

anyone knows if Days is gonna have a tie-in??

MissElin_ 25th October 2008 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoObY (Post 1677293)
Hopefully she'll have two very different covers for both versions, kind of like ayaka's Why/CLAP&LOVE & CLAP&LOVE/Why

It sure will. MW doa and MW YOU version hade diffrent covers so. But I hope for more diffrence then like the BB diffrent covers. More like MY STORY. That would be awesome. ^^

bluegie 25th October 2008 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1676866)
If this was 2001 ayumi time, whatever Ayumi put out, people will buy.

But in this era, even I think Avex knows that they cant do it.
People just don't buy much of physical music anymore.
If you think about it, like, the top selling album of this year will only make 1.5 million.
And during Ayumi's peak, 4 - 6 million was so common.
So I understand why Avex knew that putting out all these things for her Anniversary is unrealistic.
They will probably lose money before gaining. T T

Totally right except 4 - 6 million... It should be 2 - 4 million instead. During ayu's peak the highest album sales was hikki's Distance (4.3 - 4.5 million copies?), and A BEST was another album able to pull off 4 million copies. Next year (2002), the top album was again hikki's DEEP RIVER (3.5 million copies), while ayu's I am was around 2.3 million copies.

So even back in ayu's (and/or hikki) peak era, the declines has been started already. I remember I was actually shocked that I am first week sales was only 1.6 million copies (actually 1st and 2nd week combined since it was released on the new year). Duty's first week sales was over 1.6 million copies as well, but that was done in one week. I thought ayu's popularity was sharply decreased during that moment, but then later on I realized that everyone's sales decreased as well...

OMG sorry I was too off topic LOL. I hope that this time Days and GREEN's covers will be totally different. I would be shocked if all covers have the same theme... And if that's the case I don't see why avex names 2 covers with Days as the lead, and the other 2 with GREEN as the lead..

Melrose 25th October 2008 12:33 PM

^

Didn't First Love sell 6 mil?

SURREAL__RAINBOW 25th October 2008 12:36 PM

AVEX is pretty clever
they know what theyre going with their artists
xD

and obviously ayu is the one who gives/gave them more income ^^



so they need to bring her back (if they didnt do it already) again.


AC was just a big step to another bigger one!
xDD



not just in Japan, but in all Asia




what is next??

the WORLD????

O___o




**madonna, kylie, britney shivering**

maikaru 25th October 2008 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 1677408)
Totally right except 4 - 6 million... It should be 2 - 4 million instead. During ayu's peak the highest album sales was hikki's Distance (4.3 - 4.5 million copies?), and A BEST was another album able to pull off 4 million copies. Next year (2002), the top album was again hikki's DEEP RIVER (3.5 million copies), while ayu's I am was around 2.3 million copies.

So even back in ayu's (and/or hikki) peak era, the declines has been started already. I remember I was actually shocked that I am first week sales was only 1.6 million copies (actually 1st and 2nd week combined since it was released on the new year). Duty's first week sales was over 1.6 million copies as well, but that was done in one week. I thought ayu's popularity was sharply decreased during that moment, but then later on I realized that everyone's sales decreased as well...

Well, if you consider just 2000 - 2001, then it's right.
But 1999, still one of her best years, Utada sold more than 7 million~ with First Love.
I was so amazed at that one too~ ahaha
So I just chose 4 - 6 as a fair estimate.. LOL

But in that way, still, you are right.. sales I think were starting to fall even then.

I am pretty sure if A BEST was not released in competition to Utada, it would have sold MUCH more..
Big mistake with Avex LOL

Oh well~ at least we know Green will be a solid sales..
Even if not #1 for a week, it will be at least for a day..
And I think that's fine, because most people will probably buy it in iTunes..
And not stores?~

Oricon should really enter partnership with online things. LOL

Melrose 25th October 2008 02:25 PM

@ ^: Nah it will get #1 weekly don't worry.. ^^ It's an oriental song which sells well, she hasn't released anything for a long time, it has 4 versions, avex can always use avex magic, and so far there isn't any major planned from other artists in the same week.

But yea the physical copies are going down..which is a shame. : / I can't believe people would rather download something than own a physical copy.. I'd prefer paying $20 extra for a physical copy any time.

@nagamori: Haha maybe. But somehow I think that if she'd go worldwide she'd lose her #1 streak. : P thus if she does go worldwide she'd take a second alias so she can keep her Ayumi Hamasaki #1 streak. Like Hikki.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 25th October 2008 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melrose (Post 1677495)
@nagamori: Haha maybe. But somehow I think that if she'd go worldwide she'd lose her #1 streak. : P thus if she does go worldwide she'd take a second alias so she can keep her Ayumi Hamasaki #1 streak. Like Hikki.

trueee
but personally I wouldnt mind
xDD

if she still being the best in japan and asia

being second, or third or whatever in the World doesnt worry me at all

^^

aura~ 25th October 2008 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1676866)
And I was thinking about her vocal situation right now.
It's exactly the same thing that happened during Surreal.
She was singing so well in lives, then suddenly bam, for Audience, and all those singles,
It was so horrible. LOL.
So we just have to wait some time, she will return to her good vocal standings~
Without complaints~ I will wait~

me too ^^

totally agree with what you've said!!

ren0210989 25th October 2008 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alternarist (Post 1677116)
i still feel that ayu's way to celebrate her 10th anniversary is to get closer to her fans. and thats why this yr's ASIA TOUR is exceptionally long and grand.. :)

i agree^^
afterall what better way to say Thank You to your fans then touring the whole year!!!!:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1677490)
Well, if you consider just 2000 - 2001, then it's right.
But 1999, still one of her best years, Utada sold more than 7 million~ with First Love.
I was so amazed at that one too~ ahaha
So I just chose 4 - 6 as a fair estimate.. LOL

But in that way, still, you are right.. sales I think were starting to fall even then.

I am pretty sure if A BEST was not released in competition to Utada, it would have sold MUCH more..
Big mistake with Avex LOL

Oh well~ at least we know Green will be a solid sales..
Even if not #1 for a week, it will be at least for a day..
And I think that's fine, because most people will probably buy it in iTunes..
And not stores?~

Oricon should really enter partnership with online things. LOL

yeah, GREEN will surelly be #1 for a little while, maybe not for more than a week, but still it'll sale very good^^

ayumisrael 25th October 2008 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melrose (Post 1677495)
@ ^: Nah it will get #1 weekly don't worry.. ^^ It's an oriental song which sells well, she hasn't released anything for a long time, it has 4 versions, avex can always use avex magic, and so far there isn't any major planned from other artists in the same week.

But yea the physical copies are going down..which is a shame. : / I can't believe people would rather download something than own a physical copy.. I'd prefer paying $20 extra for a physical copy any time.

@nagamori: Haha maybe. But somehow I think that if she'd go worldwide she'd lose her #1 streak. : P thus if she does go worldwide she'd take a second alias so she can keep her Ayumi Hamasaki #1 streak. Like Hikki.

If you mean to a sudden promotion and gifting then you're correct (if they can invest in them).

Days/GREEN (and not GREEN) will be most likely #1, there's no competition also ^-^ so it's great.

ayupan90 25th October 2008 04:30 PM

WOO i just preordered both the dvd versions!!!! im so excited :) but it says i wont get them till december 30th :(

elepop 25th October 2008 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoObY (Post 1677293)
Hopefully she'll have two very different covers for both versions, kind of like ayaka's Why/CLAP&LOVE & CLAP&LOVE/Why

Hopefully! MW covers were all the same. XD

SolarAngel 25th October 2008 06:08 PM

I think quality songs are what's most important. Ayu was popular around 2003 when she released MA but i'm sure her forgiveness and no way to say sales were quite a shock after the 2002 single sales high. MA was a very well compiled mini-album (lol same initials) with great individual songs. Even the non-single songs were well done (BoY especially IMO). If she releases a mini-album of a high standard, it will sell reasonably well i'm sure. I'm a little selfish in the sense that i want my ayu album at the end of the year lol. I see Days/GREEN a little like B&D/Pride, a herald for the new album. It may hurt the single sales but it'd be good promotion for the album. Gone were the days where she can release re-cut singles and complementing singles with the album (SURREAL, appears).

I am excited about this release. I hope this can show that ayu is still at the top of her game. I also hope maikaru is right in that this is just a cycle of bad vocals and it'll get much better in the future. Sort of like the economy :P

freedreamer 25th October 2008 06:11 PM

i think forgiveness and B&D/Pride kinda shook the japanese audience...i dunno..after those two were released, u do see some fall..

i really hope Days/GREEN will be able to generate the AYu-hype once again..(im sure it already has)..
Its weird that her first a-side Days has no tie-in O.O

rakeru 25th October 2008 06:32 PM

i'm hoping it's as non-commercial as MW... but not enough to freak out the Japanese.

miroro 25th October 2008 06:53 PM

i want Days to be super upbeat and dance!!
something like real me + STEP you :)

ayu_ready? 25th October 2008 07:02 PM

I like that 4 versions thingy very muchie!

YAY! can't wait!!! great news ;)

:love

ren0210989 25th October 2008 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayupan90 (Post 1677653)
WOO i just preordered both the dvd versions!!!! im so excited :) but it says i wont get them till december 30th :(

what?? really?? what shipping did you use?
if it's a slow one, i'm not suprised...

tehxiinae 25th October 2008 09:03 PM

omg omg this is so exciting! i think ive already decided which one i'm gunna buy :)

Coelacanth 25th October 2008 11:13 PM

GREEN romaji

hikari kagayaite rin to shi ta kigi tachi wa
mi o kakusu you ni iro o keshite yuku
kibou o e tsunagaru nanimokamo o toozake te
nukumori o kowagaru watashi no you ni

fureta yubi no saki kara
omoi ga afuredashi sou ni
natta ano shunkan kara
kono koi ni kidzukimashita

(miss)understood 25th October 2008 11:25 PM

confusing

Ayu-roBeat 13 25th October 2008 11:27 PM

OMG, TO BE??? That's a dream come true! Thank you Ayu!

Melrose 25th October 2008 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coelacanth (Post 1678033)
GREEN romaji

hikari kagayaite rin to shi ta kigi tachi wa
mi o kakusu you ni iro o keshite yuku
kibou o e tsunagaru nanimokamo o toozake te
nukumori o kowagaru watashi no you ni

fureta yubi no saki kara
omoi ga afuredashi sou ni
natta ano shunkan kara
kono koi ni kidzukimashita

Thanks so much!!!

How do you write kidzukimashita in JP though? The dzu part. o_O I heard kitsukimashita.. I hate that sentence. It's like

kono koi nikitsukimashita

The koi ni kitsu part is weird

gothicayu 26th October 2008 01:49 AM

i wonder what the cover gonna looks like

kotora 26th October 2008 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by gothicayu (Post 1678152)
i wonder what the cover gonna looks like

Hopefully it is not going to be like this

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8747/91514457nk7.jpg

YuriChan 26th October 2008 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kotora (Post 1678241)
Hopefully it is not going to be like this

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8747/91514457nk7.jpg

:laugh That's too gruesome for Ayu's taste! XDD

RikkuChii 26th October 2008 03:56 AM

Eee!! I can't wait! I hope I'll have money to buy it..

ALPHY 26th October 2008 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kotora (Post 1678241)
Hopefully it is not going to be like this

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8747/91514457nk7.jpg

Haha, the anger!!!

XD

emi♡ 26th October 2008 03:57 AM

:laugh that's great.

LacusClyne 26th October 2008 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk (Post 1674969)
I wonder why avex didn't come up with an anniversary album, with her resinging the classics. They're usually geniuses at milking artists and it would've been actually nice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~ayu-cake~ (Post 1674975)
^ That would have been such a good idea :S Strange that they haven't done it.

it could really happan, since he new songs are too little for a full album, but she could surprise us with a 10th anniversary album...with all resung tracks, with poker face too. coz it still weid to hav those 10th anniversary songs, but not her debut track.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by ren0210989 (Post 1675138)
i finally got the e-mail from cdj about it^^

but i must say that i'm kinda confused...
within the e-mail it said:

is that true or is that just so that i can be 100% sure i get the first press edition???
i have the 2 CD+DVD versions in my cart, but i'll only get 1 of them, i didn't proceed to the actual buying (i don't have the money on my credit card yet...)
any toughts?

you can order both now, that when the cover came out and you can kick out one by editing your order and cancel it. As for money issues, hmv and cdjapan will only deduct it upon shipping.

rakeru 26th October 2008 05:46 AM

Wiki says GREEN & Days will have "a production cost of $1.6 million, it is Hamasaki's second most expensive video behind 2005's fairyland."
http://wiki.theppn.org/Hamasaki_Ayumi

any confirmation elsewhere?

♛_baby_ayumi_♛ 26th October 2008 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rakeru (Post 1678371)
Wiki says GREEN & Days will have "a production cost of $1.6 million, it is Hamasaki's second most expensive video behind 2005's fairyland."
http://wiki.theppn.org/Hamasaki_Ayumi

:( i wish she wouldnt waste money on her music videos so much. no matter how much she spends, they always look the same and fail to impress anyone. fairyland was such a big waste of money. utada does best, she can take a video like hikari where she's just washing dishes and it comes off a lot better than ayumis expensive videos. she should spend her money on making better music instead. her albums since i am... have been decreasing in quality. she hasnt been the jpop queen for the longest time because of her standards.:no

SURREAL__RAINBOW 26th October 2008 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678415)
:( i wish she wouldnt waste money on her music videos so much. no matter how much she spends, they always look the same and fail to impress anyone. fairyland was such a big waste of money. utada does best, she can take a video like hikari where she's just washing dishes and it comes off a lot better than ayumis expensive videos. she should spend her money on making better music instead. her albums since i am... have been decreasing in quality. she hasnt been the jpop queen for the longest time because of her standards.:no

wow
here you go again
xDD



are you for real??? =S


now you are worrying me

douggn 26th October 2008 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678415)
:( i wish she wouldnt waste money on her music videos so much. no matter how much she spends, they always look the same and fail to impress anyone. fairyland was such a big waste of money. utada does best, she can take a video like hikari where she's just washing dishes and it comes off a lot better than ayumis expensive videos. she should spend her money on making better music instead. her albums since i am... have been decreasing in quality. she hasnt been the jpop queen for the longest time because of her standards.:no

I have the hikari PV and thought it was one of utada's most boring PV, i love the song and every time i watch it i think of how good ayu PV's are. I think that it probably costing that much is because of the time that the song is set, it would of cost a bit to make the set look 1930s (I think thats the year its set) it could also be the combined cost for GREEN and Days not just for one

prussian blue 26th October 2008 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678415)
:( i wish she wouldnt waste money on her music videos so much. no matter how much she spends, they always look the same and fail to impress anyone. fairyland was such a big waste of money. utada does best, she can take a video like hikari where she's just washing dishes and it comes off a lot better than ayumis expensive videos. she should spend her money on making better music instead. her albums since i am... have been decreasing in quality. she hasnt been the jpop queen for the longest time because of her standards.:no

i disagree with that.

in my opinion, fairyland is such a great PV that attract ppl attention. you see the PV with those blue sea, mountain, azure sky and other fascinating scenery is shot beautifully. a lot of my friend got the attention of her since they watched that PV, so i think thats quite a prove that this PV is interesting to watch. i never think she ever wasting her money to unnecesarry thing in any PV. her PV are always good looking. (well except some of her lately PV that i dont really like) anyway, after all its your opinion, i still respect it :)

SURREAL__RAINBOW 26th October 2008 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by prussian blue (Post 1678469)
i disagree with that.

in my opinion, fairyland is such a great PV that attract ppl attention. you see the PV with those blue sea, mountain, azure sky and other fascinating scenery is shot beautifully. a lot of my friend got the attention of her since they watched that PV, so i think thats quite a prove that this PV is interesting to watch. i never think she ever wasting her money to unnecesarry thing in any PV. her PV are always good looking. (well except some of her lately PV that i dont really like) anyway, after all its your opinion, i still respect it :)


dont worry about her

she sounds more an Utafan than an ayufan

♛_baby_ayumi_♛ 26th October 2008 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nagamori_etsuya (Post 1678470)
dont worry about her

she sounds more an Utafan than an ayufan

you have been targetting me in all the threads. :eyebrow can you please grow up and start to respect other people's opinions?

SURREAL__RAINBOW 26th October 2008 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678481)
you have been targetting me in all the threads. :eyebrow can you please grow up and start to respect other people's opinions?

meh
i don't mind anymore what you say
lol

sorry if i bother you

i just thought that you appreciate more ayus music

thats all

♛_baby_ayumi_♛ 26th October 2008 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nagamori_etsuya (Post 1678489)
meh
i don't mind anymore what you say
lol

sorry if i bother you

i just thought that you appreciate more ayus music

thats all

everyone has their own opinions, u need to realize that. just becuase i dont lke something ayumi has done u called me an utafan. i dont wish to argue with you anymore. bye.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 26th October 2008 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678496)
everyone has their own opinions, u need to realize that. just becuase i dont lke something ayumi has done u called me an utafan. i dont wish to argue with you anymore. bye.

last thing im gonna say lol



I wasnt arguing with you

and I respect your opinion

njanjayrp 26th October 2008 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678415)
:( i wish she wouldnt waste money on her music videos so much. no matter how much she spends, they always look the same and fail to impress anyone. fairyland was such a big waste of money. utada does best, she can take a video like hikari where she's just washing dishes and it comes off a lot better than ayumis expensive videos. she should spend her money on making better music instead. her albums since i am... have been decreasing in quality. she hasnt been the jpop queen for the longest time because of her standards.:no

I disagree as well. And unlike Hikki who seems to dislike spending the money on her PVs even though she is loaded, Ayu is still trying to write history and put her money to use. fairyland was awesome, and so was JEWEL, if this one is going to be as good as those then her money won't go to waste. And her music isn't decreasing in quality at all ^^ her latest arrangements sound richer and more detailed compared to pre MA ones. In the end I guess it's all the matter of what you like to hear/see.

amuseum 26th October 2008 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678415)
:( i wish she wouldnt waste money on her music videos so much. no matter how much she spends, they always look the same and fail to impress anyone. fairyland was such a big waste of money. utada does best, she can take a video like hikari where she's just washing dishes and it comes off a lot better than ayumis expensive videos. she should spend her money on making better music instead. her albums since i am... have been decreasing in quality. she hasnt been the jpop queen for the longest time because of her standards.:no

Quote:

Originally Posted by prussian blue (Post 1678469)
i disagree with that.

in my opinion, fairyland is such a great PV that attract ppl attention. you see the PV with those blue sea, mountain, azure sky and other fascinating scenery is shot beautifully. a lot of my friend got the attention of her since they watched that PV, so i think thats quite a prove that this PV is interesting to watch. i never think she ever wasting her money to unnecesarry thing in any PV. her PV are always good looking. (well except some of her lately PV that i dont really like) anyway, after all its your opinion, i still respect it :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by nagamori_etsuya (Post 1678470)
dont worry about her

she sounds more an Utafan than an ayufan

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1678550)
I disagree as well. And unlike Hikki who seems to dislike spending the money on her PVs even though she is loaded, Ayu is still trying to write history and put her money to use. fairyland was awesome, and so was JEWEL, if this one is going to be as good as those then her money won't go to waste. And her music isn't decreasing in quality at all ^^ her latest arrangements sound richer and more detailed compared to pre MA ones. In the end I guess it's all the matter of what you like to hear/see.

♛_baby_ayumi_♛~ I agree with you here. To me having a huge budget for a PV means nothing. Ayumi's pvs of late have weak concepts and really, just boring and recycled. I agree with you, her quality of PVS and music is declining. I can only HOPE green will be any good.

prussian blue~ Yes fairlyland was ok, but it was recycled with Blue Bird. And the glitter recycled the melody. Doesn't this disapoint you when you see the same thing, just slighty changed? You might not think she's wasting her money on the PVs, but she's certainly not retaining her old fanbase by recycling old concepts.

nagamori_etsuya~ I love Utada and Ayumi. Utada at least come up with different concepts and arrangments. The prisoner of love PV was simple and effective, just showing off utada and her voice. Ayumi has become this huge diva, and hides behind showy costumes and expensive pvs. How can anyone relate to her anymore?

njanjayrp~ Utada has some good taste when it comes to PVs. Look at You Make Me Want to be A Man? and Heart Station. They may not have billions of jewels, but at least they have some depth.
her latest arrangements sound richer and more detailed> You're kidding??
they are clumsy and recycled, and just boring.
Has she ever heard of KISS?

Anyway, I just couldn't help to give my oppinion, I can't stand crazy fandom/
I love ayumi, I'm a huge fan, but it's obvious she's lost her spark.

ayujarl 26th October 2008 10:11 AM

:love:love:love I LOVE FAIRYLAND PV!!! :love:love:love

washing dishes to make a PV, I don't like that idea on Ayu. don't think it worked that well on Utada either. :o

I understand why "fairyland" and "my name's WOMEN" are so $$$ to make, but what about JEWEL? why is it that expensive as well? I always wonder :p

YuriChan 26th October 2008 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678415)
:( i wish she wouldnt waste money on her music videos so much. no matter how much she spends, they always look the same and fail to impress anyone. fairyland was such a big waste of money. utada does best, she can take a video like hikari where she's just washing dishes and it comes off a lot better than ayumis expensive videos. she should spend her money on making better music instead. her albums since i am... have been decreasing in quality. she hasnt been the jpop queen for the longest time because of her standards.:no

Are you for real?? OMG! At least fairyland and my name's WOMEN had a storyline!!! Hikari was boring! D< Besides, ayu's not the type of woman to just spend money on something stupid! She's not THAT stupid!! I hate that you're bashing Ayu left to right! I can understand that you have your own opinion... But that doesn't give you the right to bash an artist that everyone else loves! :eviltongu (I've spoken my peace. :yes)

pommy48 26th October 2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678415)
:( i wish she wouldnt waste money on her music videos so much. no matter how much she spends, they always look the same and fail to impress anyone. fairyland was such a big waste of money. utada does best, she can take a video like hikari where she's just washing dishes and it comes off a lot better than ayumis expensive videos. she should spend her money on making better music instead. her albums since i am... have been decreasing in quality. she hasnt been the jpop queen for the longest time because of her standards.:no

seriously?...they always impress me!!! and how do you think she can sell CD+DVD versions of her single and albums if she didn't have good enough of a PV to attract the people?
:thud...washing dishes is of course absolutely much better than seeing someone on beautiful beaches and the blue sky...:rolleyes

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Originally Posted by ayujarl (Post 1678589)
:love:love:love I LOVE FAIRYLAND PV!!! :love:love:love
washing dishes to make a PV, I don't like that idea on Ayu. don't think it worked that well on Utada either. :o
I understand why "fairyland" and "my name's WOMEN" are so $$$ to make, but what about JEWEL? why is it that expensive as well? I always wonder :p

all the sparkling things in the PV was fake, they were swarovski crystals..so they're expensive, especially when you have a set full of them X_X

Qt Mashi 26th October 2008 10:27 AM

omg, i cant wait for this!!

10th anniversary versions of to be and love destiny!

YuriChan 26th October 2008 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Qt Mashi (Post 1678608)
omg, i cant wait for this!!

10th anniversary versions of to be and love destiny!

I hope TO BE's version sounds like TA Live! ^^

Zeke. 26th October 2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HONEY_INSPIRE_ME19 (Post 1678601)
Are you for real?? OMG! At least fairyland and my name's WOMEN had a storyline!!! Hikari was boring! D< Besides, ayu's not the type of woman to just spend money on something stupid! She's not THAT stupid!! I hate that you're bashing Ayu left to right! I can understand that you have your own opinion... But that doesn't give you the right to bash an artist that everyone else loves! :eviltongu (I've spoken my peace. :yes)

LMFAO! I love that with the tongue thing. Ha ha. I agree as well, but I do think Ayu tends to throw play the "high-production value" card often. Ha ha. I enjoyed fairyland - it was gorgeously done. JEWEL was a complete masterpiece as well and she looks SO BEAUTIFUL in it. my name's WOMEN was downright HOT & SEXY. I'm hoping this PV is great as well.

MissElin_ 26th October 2008 11:06 AM

Ayu have ALOT of money, she can afford to put in alot of money in making amazing PVs. And I love her for that! Cuz they often come out really amazing. Like fairyland. :heart
Then offcourse Ayu too can make simple PVs. HEAVEN is just one big clip but OMG so powerful! Love it.

I mean why this diskussion about her spending money on PVs? ITs her choise, they always comes out amazing, so no harm made. I mean, I adore Ayus PVs. Shes the one artist who always gives me amasing PVs. Even if i was misspleased with MW it was still better then many other PVs other artists make. :D

SURREAL__RAINBOW 26th October 2008 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MissElin_ (Post 1678642)
I mean why this diskussion about her spending money on PVs? ITs her choise

YOU SAID IT!!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

freedreamer 26th October 2008 11:38 AM

fairyland was AWESOME goodness...sheeshh...
yea WADEVA..it's ONLY your opinion.. so doesn't matter..

GREEN AND Days are gonna use that money or just GREEN?..

o god im seriously gonna freak out if she is merging the two PVs again!!!!

i mean..choreography in China would mean Days is upbeat and its gonna link to GREEN..

sry if im slow...coz i was always expecting 2 seperate PVs..but SUDDENLY this struck me

Keiichi_JPU 26th October 2008 12:27 PM

I don't think she's merging two PV's. look at this:

Quote:

DVD Tracklist ("Days / GREEN ver.")

1. Days (PV)
2. GREEN (PV)
3. Days (Making Clip)
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DVD Tracklist ("GREEN / Days ver.")

1. GREEN (PV)
2. Days (PV)
3. GREEN (Making Clip)
Different track order, so she can't really have merged PV's. You can't play Fated before Glitter for example :)

@baby_ayumi: you really think Hikari impresses more people than Fairyland? As a huge Hikki fan myself, I think I'm safe to say Hikari is nothing (PV wise) compared to Fairyland. Of course, it's your opinion that Hikari is better, and I respect that. But I think you have to admit more people will think Fairyland is better.

And I don't think it's a waste of money at all, I love ayu's PV's!

Melrose 26th October 2008 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678415)
:( i wish she wouldnt waste money on her music videos so much. no matter how much she spends, they always look the same and fail to impress anyone. fairyland was such a big waste of money. utada does best, she can take a video like hikari where she's just washing dishes and it comes off a lot better than ayumis expensive videos. she should spend her money on making better music instead. her albums since i am... have been decreasing in quality. she hasnt been the jpop queen for the longest time because of her standards.:no

Sorry but Hikki's known for her bad PVs. wtf is traveling about? JEWEL, Marionette, etc. etc. own those clips ANY day.

(And I like Hikki's music to but that's just the way.)

Ayu's high budget PVs DO tend to turn out the best IMO. Otherwise where does the money go?

freedreamer 26th October 2008 12:30 PM

^o yea...haha i forgot..YAY gd thing...
so now we really gotta see if both are as good as one another? lol

Melrose 26th October 2008 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1678604)
seriously?...they always impress me!!! and how do you think she can sell CD+DVD versions of her single and albums if she didn't have good enough of a PV to attract the people?
:thud...washing dishes is of course absolutely much better than seeing someone on beautiful beaches and the blue sky...:rolleyes



all the sparkling things in the PV was fake, they were swarovski crystals..so they're expensive, especially when you have a set full of them X_X

Hmm why was my name's WOMEN so expensive then? Just some choreography, bg set and random ppl.

Jwiz 26th October 2008 12:40 PM

^ Something to do with the venue i guess, coupled with the special effects, choreography (may cost a bomb), the huge numbers of people involved, and expensive outfits.

Meat Pao 26th October 2008 01:05 PM

Especially hiring the Caucasians must have costed a bomb :o

tourniquet 26th October 2008 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melrose (Post 1678705)
Sorry but Hikki's known for her bad PVs. wtf is traveling about? JEWEL, Marionette, etc. etc. own those clips ANY day.

(And I like Hikki's music to but that's just the way.)

Ayu's high budget PVs DO tend to turn out the best IMO. Otherwise where does the money go?

omg, how can someone seriously be so ignorant. look at the songtext of traveling and you understand, and even without, the PV is very fitting to the song name. what the hell is JEWEL about? about ayu sitting in bling bling? ayu understands to hide her messages in nonsensical PVs which show of her beauty but nothing else usually. lately, I was especially disappointed by Together When...'s PV. omg, poor ayu, crying again fake tears. seen that before.

Marionette was her only good PV from the GUILTY era imho.

but hikki's PVs lately suck too. but at least she has some really artistic **** like traveling, SAKURA Drops, Deep River, Keep Tryin' and Passion. I love how fitting they are to her music.

ayumisrael 26th October 2008 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678415)
:( i wish she wouldnt waste money on her music videos so much. no matter how much she spends, they always look the same and fail to impress anyone. fairyland was such a big waste of money. utada does best, she can take a video like hikari where she's just washing dishes and it comes off a lot better than ayumis expensive videos. she should spend her money on making better music instead. her albums since i am... have been decreasing in quality... . she hasnt been the jpop queen for the longest time because of her standards.:no

Quote:

Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678415)
you answered it yourself.. i just dont like her old albums and new singles.. i want ayumi to go back to her secret and (miss)understood days.. it was so exciting back then, her singles always made me unable to wait. now though i hardly bother..

Contradiction. So which album of her do you like? x_x

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678493)
shes been doing that all this time with her singles. they all sound the same with each other. talking 2 myself, inspire, deicision, memorial address, no way to say, momentum all sound like they were made in the same day. if she can go back making boring rock songs, why cant she return to making really good muisc like RAINBOW and voyage again?? she has been slacking in the industry, and her sales will keep on falling until she does something good again. look at namie, she managed to save her career. unfortunately ayumi doesnt seemto be able to becuase she stopped being creative.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678426)
im her fan for her music, not her image.. :D if i dont like her music i wont be the fan of an album. those albums are all very poorly made, thats why i think she doesnt deserve it.

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678414)
those are some of her worst albums, they dont deserve to be in the list. i cant imagine any fan buying them and ever listening to them :no: rainbow especially, its extremely bad. they only sold well because she was very popular and it was considered cool to have her cds back then.


This is the gist of whatever you wrote since you are in AHS you ayu troll.
A word of advice, don't waste your life in hating ayu :P lol.
Hopefully you will be banned soon.

Anyway all of her high budget PVs are great (fairyland, JEWEL, my name's WOMEN) so hopefully GREEN will be great as them.

♛_baby_ayumi_♛ 26th October 2008 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1678765)
This is the gist of whatever you wrote since you are in AHS you ayu troll.
A word of advice, don't waste your life in hating ayu :P lol.
Hopefully you will be banned soon.

is this how you people handle comments against ayumi? by bashing me for it and calling me a troll? im shocked at the response ive been getting here just from a few comments against ayumi.

A word of advice, don't waste your life hating me. It's you who need to be banned, bullying new members and bashing other peoples comments. just cos you blindly vow to love all her songs doesnt make your opinions superior to mine.

ayumisrael 26th October 2008 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678776)
is this how you people handle comments against ayumi? by bashing me for it and calling me a troll? im shocked at the response ive been getting here just from a few comments against ayumi.

A word of advice, don't waste your life hating me. It's you who need to be banned, bullying new members and bashing other peoples comments. just cos you blindly vow to love all her songs doesnt make your opinions superior to mine.

That's how we handle people that coming here only to say bad things about her and he/she doesn't like anything she does. And since you only post such things, it's not the forum for you.

prussian blue 26th October 2008 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatpao (Post 1678734)
Especially hiring the Caucasians must have costed a bomb :o

i wonder if hiring them really cause a lot of money? i thought its just like hiring model for a fashion show, but i dont think it will cost until 1 million, right?

njanjayrp 26th October 2008 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1678785)
That's how we handle people that coming here only to say bad things about her and he/she doesn't like anything she does. And since you only post such things, it's not the forum for you.

I know what you're saying and I am really ok with it, as else AHS would turn into Ayu's Last.fm shout box, but I don't think _baby_ayumi_ deserves to be banned just based on this, at least not yet.

@_baby_ayumi_ - you have to understand that most of us here are really big fans, and even though we know everyone has the right to think what they want, it annoys us when people bash Ayu in any way and believe it or not some of us do like all of her songs a lot. I don't have a thing against you tough, but your comments are really negative, and as Ayumisreal said, none of your comments were positive, if you don't like anything about her there is no point in posting in this part of the forum :)

tokyoxjapanxfan 26th October 2008 02:54 PM

ummm isn't it avex's money? not ayu's? i don't think she spends her own money on pv's o_o. and it would be awesome if the pv is 1.6 mil xD but...i dont want a joined pv...

ayumisrael 26th October 2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 1678801)
ummm isn't it avex's money? not ayu's? i don't think she spends her own money on pv's o_o. and it would be awesome if the pv is 1.6 mil xD but...i dont want a joined pv...

Don't worry it won't be joined since both versions DVDs have

1. Days PV
2. GREEN PV

or

1. GREEN PV
2. Days PV

If it would be connected it would be called xxxx ~xxxx~ (Days/GREEN or GREEN/Days).

XD

maikaru 26th October 2008 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tourniquet (Post 1678762)
omg, how can someone seriously be so ignorant. look at the songtext of traveling and you understand, and even without, the PV is very fitting to the song name. what the hell is JEWEL about? about ayu sitting in bling bling? ayu understands to hide her messages in nonsensical PVs which show of her beauty but nothing else usually. lately, I was especially disappointed by Together When...'s PV. omg, poor ayu, crying again fake tears. seen that before.

Marionette was her only good PV from the GUILTY era imho.

but hikki's PVs lately suck too. but at least she has some really artistic **** like traveling, SAKURA Drops, Deep River, Keep Tryin' and Passion. I love how fitting they are to her music.

How can YOU be so ignorance???

The whole thing about JEWEL is she is talking about her "treasure," in the last line, she says "My important treasure."
I think it only makes sense for her to be in a winterland of treasures, if she is talking about that.
She is talking about how her treasure made her feel peace and kindness, and she is peacefully and looking kind in the PV.
So I don't know what's the problem of JEWEL...

Did you wanna her to be happy and dancing in Together When...?
How do you know it's a fake? Can you know her real emotions?

Out of all the pv you mention, I think Marionette is the one with least meaning, yet you wanna say its the best? I'm so confused at what kind of pv you like.

don't leave me alone's pv was so good too... except the pants.. ahaha
She was saying how she changes to adapt to things with the change ties,
And how she must always find ways for her to make things feel less hurtful.

I think maybe you gotta re-think about it..
I find a lot of the times Utada Hikaru has really bad pvs.
Much worse than Ayumi. (like Heart Station? Prisoner of Love? ._.); )

I just think you should stop making bad talk about someone which a bbs is dedicated to..
You can take your extreme criticisms of her somewhere who hates her.
Because obviously, people her will defend her so much, so no points.

unless you wanna stir trouble~ LOL

njanjayrp 26th October 2008 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1678806)
How can YOU be so ignorance???

The whole thing about JEWEL is she is talking about her "treasure," in the last line, she says "My important treasure."
I think it only makes sense for her to be in a winterland of treasures, if she is talking about that.
She is talking about how her treasure made her feel peace and kindness, and she is peacefully and looking kind in the PV.
So I don't know what's the problem of JEWEL...

Did you wanna her to be happy and dancing in Together When...?
How do you know it's a fake? Can you know her real emotions?

Out of all the pv you mention, I think Marionette is the one with least meaning, yet you wanna say its the best? I'm so confused at what kind of pv you like.

don't leave me alone's pv was so good too... except the pants.. ahaha
She was saying how she changes to adapt to things with the change ties,
And how she must always find ways for her to make things feel less hurtful.

I think maybe you gotta re-think about it..
I find a lot of the times Utada Hikaru has really bad pvs.
Much worse than Ayumi. (like Heart Station? Prisoner of Love? ._.); )

I just think you should stop making bad talk about someone which a bbs is dedicated to..
You can take your extreme criticisms of her somewhere who hates her.
Because obviously, people her will defend her so much, so no points.

unless you wanna stir trouble~ LOL

Sometimes it's hard to understand Ayu's PVs if you don't understand the lyrics.
Hikki's PVs were cool back in the days when she was married. The pre-Deep River ones, and post UB ones suck terribly and that's a fact ^^, not just a matter of opinion XD

ayumisrael 26th October 2008 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1678806)
How can YOU be so ignorance???

The whole thing about JEWEL is she is talking about her "treasure," in the last line, she says "My important treasure."
I think it only makes sense for her to be in a winterland of treasures, if she is talking about that.
She is talking about how her treasure made her feel peace and kindness, and she is peacefully and looking kind in the PV.
So I don't know what's the problem of JEWEL...

Did you wanna her to be happy and dancing in Together When...?
How do you know it's a fake? Can you know her real emotions?

Out of all the pv you mention, I think Marionette is the one with least meaning, yet you wanna say its the best? I'm so confused at what kind of pv you like.

don't leave me alone's pv was so good too... except the pants.. ahaha
She was saying how she changes to adapt to things with the change ties,
And how she must always find ways for her to make things feel less hurtful.

I think maybe you gotta re-think about it..
I find a lot of the times Utada Hikaru has really bad pvs.
Much worse than Ayumi. (like Heart Station? Prisoner of Love? ._.);)

I just think you should stop making bad talk about someone which a bbs is dedicated to..
You can take your extreme criticisms of her somewhere who hates her.
Because obviously, people her will defend her so much, so no points.

unless you wanna stir trouble~ LOL

oh I love you XDD.
Your posts are always so cute ^-^.

Anyway it's always easy to say that ayu fans are to defending and then write hikki's PVs are the best, I like them better than ayu. Like they defend hikki and it's ok but when people defend ayu it's not.

It's also always easy to find meanings in hikki's PVs and excuse ayu's just for beauty and divaish meanings and not find the true meanings behind them and ayu's crying is always fake while it's a PV and I say - even if she had to fake it, it was for the actual PV who cares if it's fake or not it's for a story/meaningful PV! (and all that because they don't really care for ayu's PVs, but they will care for hikki's even if the whole PV is only about recording a song or sitting in a train which I'm sure they have some meaning in but still not one of her best or interesting PVs.. imo).
Ugh.

I hate those comparisons, they always get the worst of fans (both's fans).
And I also don't like fans of someone who pop somewhere and say "x PVs are better/worst than x" all of a sudden, like our new forum friend did.


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