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definetly no new album in January!!!!!
then there really wouldn't be any point of releasing a single in the middle of december!!!!!! there's no way she'll release a new album before July, there's no time. it takes about a month to finish 1 song and that's without counting in the part of writing lyrics and studio recording if you want a quality song (i know because a friend of mine has his own recording studio). and she really needs to take a break and relax for a month of two, so NO NEW ALBUM until early summer!!!!!! |
@sitara: yea good point lol. Western albums are so short!
@ayumiisr: Yea, okeeey. =p But it still feels short. |
I am rreally glad it's a double A side with two PVs! ^_~
And GREEN sounds so cool!!! |
Sorry, I am too lazy to go over every page, but are they up for pre-order yet?
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yay!!! COOL!!
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I also think is a bad idea to release an album on 1/1... first she doesn't have enough time to prepare it... second the single would be meaningless and a B&D/pride II, and third to make an album with this short time means songs won't be as good as all of we want... so have patient and wait for a really good album for 2009... is better for ayu in my opinion....
and moreover... she have tro prepare CDL right?? it won't be the first year w/o CDL!... no no.. no time for an album... |
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There always was a countdown since 2000-2001. (2003-2004's CDL was a part of the tour. There were 2001-2002 and 2002-2003 they just didn't have individual DVDs.) So yeah, every year since 2000 had a CDL XD and I don't think that this year will be exception. Quote:
I'm still with AC pre-orders links lol, going to change it thanks XD |
yes i agree with walking.proud. I think ayu really needs more time to prepare and get some rest as well...:)
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^Oh yeah normally countdowns would be partly be a promotion of her new album or at least give some awareness to it. If there's no new album this year, then it would purely be a new year celebration concert. I agree that MA was a fantastic mini-album in that all the songs had their own unique quality and arrangement. She also spaced out creating the songs very well in 2003. This year, i get the impression that MW and Life came out in jan and feb and there was nothing in between for a loooooong time until now with Days and GREEN which begs the question, is ayu losing her rigour for writing songs? I think so :dead2
If a mini-album comes out, oh well. I'm going to buy it anyway. Who knows, the songs may be fabulous. And we are finally getting a single. That should show she is back on track. I think her tour this year is way too spaced out. It's too distracting for her and her staff probably. What are the concerns for this single becoming a B&D/Pride II? Song quality wise or sales wise? Personally i thought B&D/Pride was quite a strong single (i really adore Pride), just that it was too close to the release date of (m)u. |
well, if her new album DOES come out april 8th,
then after this single we won't really have another single when would she have it, february? 2 months before a new album? its going to be only two singles or one more digital single if she releases in april but if not april not at all until end of next year right? someone was saying how ayu never has early year releases |
she released all her best ofs till A COMPLETE in the first quarter of the new year, but never an original album beyond january 1st. so I think she'll stick with the two single-scheme and put out an album... yeah, the question is when.
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Wow, 4 versions...argh, my wallet crys! ;_;
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Wait, no Mirrorcle World remix? That's weird.. I wonder what the Progressive Remix is for then.
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I wonder though when the new oricon year will start?
Will the sales be splitted between 2008-2009 oricon years or it's starting at Days/GREEN release date? |
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It's warming to see though the support and high sales ayu get and that she's doing well and a lot of people like her music or interested in this or that song. ^_^ |
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My theory with the four CD jackets is that they saw the four CD covers with MW, and the sales did go up, and Mirrorcle World technically isn't really a new song, and they're repeating the four single jacket thing. I think the best logical time for an album release is probably in February/march if she wants a full album. Granted, MA did pull off the sales with No way to say only a month ahead of time, but I hope marketing-wise, they learn their lesson from B&D in term of release time (But then again, it's avex...) |
I am also pretty surprised that her 10th anniversary wasn't so eventful. Thought they'd end up releasing so much stuff. In the end though I suspect Ayu just wants to slow down her career. She's achieved pretty much everything she had to achieve and now she wants to enjoy her life.
Probably you're right about the four jackets. They realised that the goodies attract more sales so I'm guessing there will be more first presses extra in the future. Well I do hope this time she'll spend some time to release her album and give time to her fans to buy the single. I don't want her releasing an album in January just to have an album out. MA pulled off the sales because she was extremely popular and now I doubt she can pull if off again. Hope avex figures that out too.. |
If this was 2001 ayumi time, whatever Ayumi put out, people will buy.
But in this era, even I think Avex knows that they cant do it. People just don't buy much of physical music anymore. If you think about it, like, the top selling album of this year will only make 1.5 million. And during Ayumi's peak, 4 - 6 million was so common. So I understand why Avex knew that putting out all these things for her Anniversary is unrealistic. They will probably lose money before gaining. T T I think.. in a few years time, what happened to Namie will happen to Ayumi. A slump for some years, and then able to sell 1 million once again. LOL At least, that's what I hope~ And I was thinking about her vocal situation right now. It's exactly the same thing that happened during Surreal. She was singing so well in lives, then suddenly bam, for Audience, and all those singles, It was so horrible. LOL. So we just have to wait some time, she will return to her good vocal standings~ Without complaints~ I will wait~ So I think, yeah, we just have to wait and see about this single.. It will do well, I think, its been a good wait. And people seem to be responding well to this song, Green.. Hopefully days can be an equally exciting song. |
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even though her popularity (musically wise) is going down from her peak era, it's really nice to see people's expressions when I tell them I love Ayu. They're amazed and then proceed to tell me their favorite songs, and it's just a genuine admiration for Ayu...it's so nice :D There's a lot of respect for her, in my experience, at least.
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i still feel that ayu's way to celebrate her 10th anniversary is to get closer to her fans. and thats why this yr's ASIA TOUR is exceptionally long and grand.. :)
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wow.. I'm happy to know abt this release!! A Double A-sided single sounds so great! The covers must be nice!! hahaz.
oh great! 4 versions. N more 10th anniversary ver.!!! They are making me so wanna get this single. :luv2 |
Hopefully she'll have two very different covers for both versions, kind of like ayaka's Why/CLAP&LOVE & CLAP&LOVE/Why
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anyone knows if Days is gonna have a tie-in??
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So even back in ayu's (and/or hikki) peak era, the declines has been started already. I remember I was actually shocked that I am first week sales was only 1.6 million copies (actually 1st and 2nd week combined since it was released on the new year). Duty's first week sales was over 1.6 million copies as well, but that was done in one week. I thought ayu's popularity was sharply decreased during that moment, but then later on I realized that everyone's sales decreased as well... OMG sorry I was too off topic LOL. I hope that this time Days and GREEN's covers will be totally different. I would be shocked if all covers have the same theme... And if that's the case I don't see why avex names 2 covers with Days as the lead, and the other 2 with GREEN as the lead.. |
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Didn't First Love sell 6 mil? |
AVEX is pretty clever
they know what theyre going with their artists xD and obviously ayu is the one who gives/gave them more income ^^ so they need to bring her back (if they didnt do it already) again. AC was just a big step to another bigger one! xDD not just in Japan, but in all Asia what is next?? the WORLD???? O___o **madonna, kylie, britney shivering** |
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But 1999, still one of her best years, Utada sold more than 7 million~ with First Love. I was so amazed at that one too~ ahaha So I just chose 4 - 6 as a fair estimate.. LOL But in that way, still, you are right.. sales I think were starting to fall even then. I am pretty sure if A BEST was not released in competition to Utada, it would have sold MUCH more.. Big mistake with Avex LOL Oh well~ at least we know Green will be a solid sales.. Even if not #1 for a week, it will be at least for a day.. And I think that's fine, because most people will probably buy it in iTunes.. And not stores?~ Oricon should really enter partnership with online things. LOL |
@ ^: Nah it will get #1 weekly don't worry.. ^^ It's an oriental song which sells well, she hasn't released anything for a long time, it has 4 versions, avex can always use avex magic, and so far there isn't any major planned from other artists in the same week.
But yea the physical copies are going down..which is a shame. : / I can't believe people would rather download something than own a physical copy.. I'd prefer paying $20 extra for a physical copy any time. @nagamori: Haha maybe. But somehow I think that if she'd go worldwide she'd lose her #1 streak. : P thus if she does go worldwide she'd take a second alias so she can keep her Ayumi Hamasaki #1 streak. Like Hikki. |
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but personally I wouldnt mind xDD if she still being the best in japan and asia being second, or third or whatever in the World doesnt worry me at all ^^ |
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totally agree with what you've said!! |
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afterall what better way to say Thank You to your fans then touring the whole year!!!!:D Quote:
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Days/GREEN (and not GREEN) will be most likely #1, there's no competition also ^-^ so it's great. |
WOO i just preordered both the dvd versions!!!! im so excited :) but it says i wont get them till december 30th :(
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I think quality songs are what's most important. Ayu was popular around 2003 when she released MA but i'm sure her forgiveness and no way to say sales were quite a shock after the 2002 single sales high. MA was a very well compiled mini-album (lol same initials) with great individual songs. Even the non-single songs were well done (BoY especially IMO). If she releases a mini-album of a high standard, it will sell reasonably well i'm sure. I'm a little selfish in the sense that i want my ayu album at the end of the year lol. I see Days/GREEN a little like B&D/Pride, a herald for the new album. It may hurt the single sales but it'd be good promotion for the album. Gone were the days where she can release re-cut singles and complementing singles with the album (SURREAL, appears).
I am excited about this release. I hope this can show that ayu is still at the top of her game. I also hope maikaru is right in that this is just a cycle of bad vocals and it'll get much better in the future. Sort of like the economy :P |
i think forgiveness and B&D/Pride kinda shook the japanese audience...i dunno..after those two were released, u do see some fall..
i really hope Days/GREEN will be able to generate the AYu-hype once again..(im sure it already has).. Its weird that her first a-side Days has no tie-in O.O |
i'm hoping it's as non-commercial as MW... but not enough to freak out the Japanese.
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i want Days to be super upbeat and dance!!
something like real me + STEP you :) |
I like that 4 versions thingy very muchie!
YAY! can't wait!!! great news ;) :love |
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if it's a slow one, i'm not suprised... |
omg omg this is so exciting! i think ive already decided which one i'm gunna buy :)
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GREEN romaji
hikari kagayaite rin to shi ta kigi tachi wa mi o kakusu you ni iro o keshite yuku kibou o e tsunagaru nanimokamo o toozake te nukumori o kowagaru watashi no you ni fureta yubi no saki kara omoi ga afuredashi sou ni natta ano shunkan kara kono koi ni kidzukimashita |
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OMG, TO BE??? That's a dream come true! Thank you Ayu!
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How do you write kidzukimashita in JP though? The dzu part. o_O I heard kitsukimashita.. I hate that sentence. It's like kono koi nikitsukimashita The koi ni kitsu part is weird |
i wonder what the cover gonna looks like
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http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8747/91514457nk7.jpg |
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Eee!! I can't wait! I hope I'll have money to buy it..
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:laugh that's great.
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Wiki says GREEN & Days will have "a production cost of $1.6 million, it is Hamasaki's second most expensive video behind 2005's fairyland."
http://wiki.theppn.org/Hamasaki_Ayumi any confirmation elsewhere? |
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here you go again xDD are you for real??? =S now you are worrying me |
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in my opinion, fairyland is such a great PV that attract ppl attention. you see the PV with those blue sea, mountain, azure sky and other fascinating scenery is shot beautifully. a lot of my friend got the attention of her since they watched that PV, so i think thats quite a prove that this PV is interesting to watch. i never think she ever wasting her money to unnecesarry thing in any PV. her PV are always good looking. (well except some of her lately PV that i dont really like) anyway, after all its your opinion, i still respect it :) |
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dont worry about her she sounds more an Utafan than an ayufan |
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i don't mind anymore what you say lol sorry if i bother you i just thought that you appreciate more ayus music thats all |
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I wasnt arguing with you and I respect your opinion |
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prussian blue~ Yes fairlyland was ok, but it was recycled with Blue Bird. And the glitter recycled the melody. Doesn't this disapoint you when you see the same thing, just slighty changed? You might not think she's wasting her money on the PVs, but she's certainly not retaining her old fanbase by recycling old concepts. nagamori_etsuya~ I love Utada and Ayumi. Utada at least come up with different concepts and arrangments. The prisoner of love PV was simple and effective, just showing off utada and her voice. Ayumi has become this huge diva, and hides behind showy costumes and expensive pvs. How can anyone relate to her anymore? njanjayrp~ Utada has some good taste when it comes to PVs. Look at You Make Me Want to be A Man? and Heart Station. They may not have billions of jewels, but at least they have some depth. her latest arrangements sound richer and more detailed> You're kidding?? they are clumsy and recycled, and just boring. Has she ever heard of KISS? Anyway, I just couldn't help to give my oppinion, I can't stand crazy fandom/ I love ayumi, I'm a huge fan, but it's obvious she's lost her spark. |
:love:love:love I LOVE FAIRYLAND PV!!! :love:love:love
washing dishes to make a PV, I don't like that idea on Ayu. don't think it worked that well on Utada either. :o I understand why "fairyland" and "my name's WOMEN" are so $$$ to make, but what about JEWEL? why is it that expensive as well? I always wonder :p |
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omg, i cant wait for this!!
10th anniversary versions of to be and love destiny! |
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Ayu have ALOT of money, she can afford to put in alot of money in making amazing PVs. And I love her for that! Cuz they often come out really amazing. Like fairyland. :heart
Then offcourse Ayu too can make simple PVs. HEAVEN is just one big clip but OMG so powerful! Love it. I mean why this diskussion about her spending money on PVs? ITs her choise, they always comes out amazing, so no harm made. I mean, I adore Ayus PVs. Shes the one artist who always gives me amasing PVs. Even if i was misspleased with MW it was still better then many other PVs other artists make. :D |
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fairyland was AWESOME goodness...sheeshh...
yea WADEVA..it's ONLY your opinion.. so doesn't matter.. GREEN AND Days are gonna use that money or just GREEN?.. o god im seriously gonna freak out if she is merging the two PVs again!!!! i mean..choreography in China would mean Days is upbeat and its gonna link to GREEN.. sry if im slow...coz i was always expecting 2 seperate PVs..but SUDDENLY this struck me |
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@baby_ayumi: you really think Hikari impresses more people than Fairyland? As a huge Hikki fan myself, I think I'm safe to say Hikari is nothing (PV wise) compared to Fairyland. Of course, it's your opinion that Hikari is better, and I respect that. But I think you have to admit more people will think Fairyland is better. And I don't think it's a waste of money at all, I love ayu's PV's! |
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(And I like Hikki's music to but that's just the way.) Ayu's high budget PVs DO tend to turn out the best IMO. Otherwise where does the money go? |
^o yea...haha i forgot..YAY gd thing...
so now we really gotta see if both are as good as one another? lol |
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^ Something to do with the venue i guess, coupled with the special effects, choreography (may cost a bomb), the huge numbers of people involved, and expensive outfits.
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Especially hiring the Caucasians must have costed a bomb :o
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Marionette was her only good PV from the GUILTY era imho. but hikki's PVs lately suck too. but at least she has some really artistic **** like traveling, SAKURA Drops, Deep River, Keep Tryin' and Passion. I love how fitting they are to her music. |
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This is the gist of whatever you wrote since you are in AHS you ayu troll. A word of advice, don't waste your life in hating ayu :P lol. Hopefully you will be banned soon. Anyway all of her high budget PVs are great (fairyland, JEWEL, my name's WOMEN) so hopefully GREEN will be great as them. |
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A word of advice, don't waste your life hating me. It's you who need to be banned, bullying new members and bashing other peoples comments. just cos you blindly vow to love all her songs doesnt make your opinions superior to mine. |
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@_baby_ayumi_ - you have to understand that most of us here are really big fans, and even though we know everyone has the right to think what they want, it annoys us when people bash Ayu in any way and believe it or not some of us do like all of her songs a lot. I don't have a thing against you tough, but your comments are really negative, and as Ayumisreal said, none of your comments were positive, if you don't like anything about her there is no point in posting in this part of the forum :) |
ummm isn't it avex's money? not ayu's? i don't think she spends her own money on pv's o_o. and it would be awesome if the pv is 1.6 mil xD but...i dont want a joined pv...
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1. Days PV 2. GREEN PV or 1. GREEN PV 2. Days PV If it would be connected it would be called xxxx ~xxxx~ (Days/GREEN or GREEN/Days). XD |
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The whole thing about JEWEL is she is talking about her "treasure," in the last line, she says "My important treasure." I think it only makes sense for her to be in a winterland of treasures, if she is talking about that. She is talking about how her treasure made her feel peace and kindness, and she is peacefully and looking kind in the PV. So I don't know what's the problem of JEWEL... Did you wanna her to be happy and dancing in Together When...? How do you know it's a fake? Can you know her real emotions? Out of all the pv you mention, I think Marionette is the one with least meaning, yet you wanna say its the best? I'm so confused at what kind of pv you like. don't leave me alone's pv was so good too... except the pants.. ahaha She was saying how she changes to adapt to things with the change ties, And how she must always find ways for her to make things feel less hurtful. I think maybe you gotta re-think about it.. I find a lot of the times Utada Hikaru has really bad pvs. Much worse than Ayumi. (like Heart Station? Prisoner of Love? ._.); ) I just think you should stop making bad talk about someone which a bbs is dedicated to.. You can take your extreme criticisms of her somewhere who hates her. Because obviously, people her will defend her so much, so no points. unless you wanna stir trouble~ LOL |
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Hikki's PVs were cool back in the days when she was married. The pre-Deep River ones, and post UB ones suck terribly and that's a fact ^^, not just a matter of opinion XD |
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Your posts are always so cute ^-^. Anyway it's always easy to say that ayu fans are to defending and then write hikki's PVs are the best, I like them better than ayu. Like they defend hikki and it's ok but when people defend ayu it's not. It's also always easy to find meanings in hikki's PVs and excuse ayu's just for beauty and divaish meanings and not find the true meanings behind them and ayu's crying is always fake while it's a PV and I say - even if she had to fake it, it was for the actual PV who cares if it's fake or not it's for a story/meaningful PV! (and all that because they don't really care for ayu's PVs, but they will care for hikki's even if the whole PV is only about recording a song or sitting in a train which I'm sure they have some meaning in but still not one of her best or interesting PVs.. imo). Ugh. I hate those comparisons, they always get the worst of fans (both's fans). And I also don't like fans of someone who pop somewhere and say "x PVs are better/worst than x" all of a sudden, like our new forum friend did. |
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