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waterballoon 16th April 2009 02:32 PM

Oh yay level up!

TITANIC 16th April 2009 05:34 PM

hopefully it will back to top 5

SolarAngel 16th April 2009 05:55 PM

Despite the less than stellar sales of Next Level, one encouraging thing is that it's charting well against other albums. This shows that comparatively, ayu is still one of the top artistes in Japan and for the ranking to move up, it just show how front-loaded sales of other albums are, not just ayu's.

The only depressing thing is how much lower can it go? I honestly though Guilty has bottomed-out in terms of sales (not quality). Is the next album even going to reach platinum? It's depressing me in this regard.

But i'm still excited for ayu, that she's still setting records, even with Next Level and she's singing all the songs in this album and performing for all the a-nation concerts. Her heart is really in it for her fans.

Masamune 16th April 2009 06:42 PM

The raise of positions to 7th is GREAT!!

Go Ayu!

I hope that she can break at least 350ks...

Thanks for the sales update!!

rakeru 16th April 2009 10:24 PM

yay, 2 positions up!

i wonder if the economy gets better soon (haha, hypothetically) that Ayu's sales would increase dramatically, or if people in general are just tired of her. naturally it would at least increase just a little bit (unless something drastic happens), but i wonder by how much?

noidea 16th April 2009 10:55 PM

I think it would increase by the same amount all the industry increases, maybe a little less, maybe a little more(because people spend money on food for example anyway xD so they probably wont spend way more on that, but spend more money on other things they dont necessarily need, CDs for example).

hikaricore 17th April 2009 12:19 AM

^Yeah that's pretty accurate.
I think they'll bounce up to at least GUILTY's level, if not higher.
A Complete showed that people aren't tired of her. You don't sell 850K of a really expensive single collection if people are tired of you or don't like you.

Jwiz 17th April 2009 01:47 AM

^ A COMPLETE has a "tenth anniversary price", which means that it is being sold at a lower price.

ayumisrael 17th April 2009 12:09 PM

4th Week Fourth Day

Position: #6

Went up once more =DD

waterballoon 17th April 2009 12:12 PM

That's REALLY good for an album that couldn't see any hope...

njanjayrp 17th April 2009 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1904665)
4th Week Fourth Day

Position: #6

Went up once more =DD

good to hear! Hopefully it will have a better and longer char life than GUILTY did.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 17th April 2009 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1904665)
4th Week Fourth Day

Position: #6

Went up once more =DD


that is great! :)


thank you!! :D

rakeru 17th April 2009 12:34 PM

another rise! power to you, NL.

Chef+Vanny 17th April 2009 12:52 PM

top #10! gotta go to the NEXT LEVEL

Tasked 17th April 2009 12:52 PM

If it's got consistancy like this throughout the entire tour, this album might even acchieve some nice numbers ;)

Meat Pao 17th April 2009 01:13 PM

I feel so relieved knowing Ayu's positions are going higher :p

TITANIC 17th April 2009 01:47 PM

position maybe higher but not the sales.. I'm pretty sure the sales will be half from last week

Tony G 17th April 2009 02:05 PM

Yeah. It just means everything around it is selling worse.

njanjayrp 17th April 2009 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riozz (Post 1904795)
position maybe higher but not the sales.. I'm pretty sure the sales will be half from last week

Yeah, I was hoping it won't drop below 15k though.

joshohhhhh 17th April 2009 02:21 PM

It's a steady album to say the least.

SolarAngel 17th April 2009 03:41 PM

^Ooh nice F&E pic. I agree that although the position is rising, the sales figures are probably declining. But it's still good that it's doing well against other albums and if it can chart within 5 figures for the next few weeks, i'll be content.

joshohhhhh 17th April 2009 04:14 PM

I wish they would report all sales of singles/albums within the top 10.

jbrat2219 17th April 2009 04:14 PM

I'm so happy it's rising! :D Maybe the tour is helping after all...?

AyuGAME 17th April 2009 05:21 PM

i believe tour will help this album to sell

ayumisrael 17th April 2009 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshohhhhh (Post 1904982)
I wish they would report all sales of singles/albums within the top 10.

I'm not sure if it's a good idea (specially for this board), when they would see it charting on 5-6 with 700-1500 sales they would say things like "it's selling crap", "omg it's going to stop charting", and stuff like that.
Things are good as they are and we still get pretty high numbers (at least with ayu's releases) on those weekly spots.

Lanz16 17th April 2009 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1904665)
4th Week Fourth Day

Position: #6

Went up once more =DD

Great!
Another good rise thanks to her Tour!

If they use they use the 1.7X index, it will outsold GUILTY within next month! O_O

319,656 X 1.7 = 543,415

KarenPang 17th April 2009 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanz16 (Post 1905114)
Great!
Another good rise thanks to her Tour!

If they use they use the 1.7X index, it will outsold GUILTY within next month! O_O

319,656 X 1.7 = 543,415

O_O you're right dude

am suddenly missing the index thing now T_T

noidea 17th April 2009 08:05 PM

Why should you miss it? It just takes work from us if they do it themselves...so we dont have to multiply is by 1.67 or something xD

Not~Yet 17th April 2009 08:58 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the index already counted in the sales number oricon gives us, not completely taken away from them? At least that's the impression I got.

njanjayrp 17th April 2009 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyuutii_hanii (Post 1905302)
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the index already counted in the sales number oricon gives us, not completely taken away from them? At least that's the impression I got.

yes it is xD But Lanz refuses to let it go :P

hikaricore 18th April 2009 01:04 AM

I never understood the whole index thing (well, the point of it, anyway)
I just want to see some better Ayu sales...

rakeru 18th April 2009 01:54 AM

couldn't Oricon just make it a law to subscribe to them so we don't have to speculate on actual sales...? *sigh*

jbrat2219 18th April 2009 04:37 AM

Making a law about it seems a little too much. Maybe offer the stores something in return? I dunno... But even so, leaving the actual sales a mystery leaves us fans a bigger opportunity to imagine the figures are actually larger than Oricon states lol.

lfe. 18th April 2009 09:39 AM

Leaving it till the end of the week seems better, daily figures just seem to disappoint everyone

ayuky 18th April 2009 12:08 PM

ah ganbatte ayu! you are selling so well like always!

Chef+Vanny 18th April 2009 12:21 PM

chances for 350k?possible/impossible?

ren0210989 18th April 2009 12:29 PM

^possible, but probablly next week...?

well i'm glad the tour is helping a bit, hopefully it'll rise more

ayumisrael 18th April 2009 12:32 PM

4th Week 5th Day

Position: #6

I guess it will be 6-7 weekly xD.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 18th April 2009 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1906230)
4th Week 5th Day

Position: #6

I guess it will be 6-7 weekly xD.


yay!! thats good I think xD


thank you! ^^

waterballoon 18th April 2009 02:56 PM

Thank you for sales update! Longevity is certainly the positivity for her recent works.

SolarAngel 18th April 2009 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1906230)
4th Week 5th Day

Position: #6

I guess it will be 6-7 weekly xD.

Nah i'll give it an 8. New albums have strong first day sales usually. But top 10, definitely.

rakeru 18th April 2009 04:53 PM

even if the numbers aren't what people were hoping, the positions are pretty respectable. so glad there's another rise!

KarenPang 18th April 2009 04:57 PM

not much strong competitors that will be released within the next few weeks album wise (except this week's Kanjani8's PUZZLE) & maybe L'arc en Ciel's Ken's IN PHYSICAL when it's out next Wed but it will be a different case when KAT-TUN drops their 4th album Break the Records -by you & for you- (omg J-One Records , where're the covers for the album , it will be 2 weeks + before it's out but NOTHING YET even though the whole album has practically leaked out grrr :grumpy)

I just hope NEXT LEVEL can linger onto within the top 10/15 within the next 2 weeks if possible

it's a good sign that it's still in the top 10 a month+ since it was released , guess the fact that she's touring to promote it is helping it , 1 way or another

AyuGAME 18th April 2009 05:48 PM

hopefully her tour will help NL to get to top 5 or even top 3!!!

ayumisrael 18th April 2009 06:42 PM

I just hope it will be consistent!

Btw ayu sold by far this year 665,776 copies (Days/GREEN, Rule/Sparkle, NEXT LEVEL and AC ~AS~ 2009 oricon year counted).
With the DVD of AT08 it will be around 735,700.

Also this year I'm sure she will sell more than million copies overall of CDs/DVDs ^^.

Lanz16 18th April 2009 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1905311)
yes it is xD But Lanz refuses to let it go :P

Not really, but Im trying to ignore the indexes since it shows much realistic figures to the album or single sales. :)

PinkShinigami 18th April 2009 08:36 PM

Yay, 300.000 sales! ^^

jbrat2219 18th April 2009 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1906544)
I just hope it will be consistent!

Btw ayu sold by far this year 665,776 copies (Days/GREEN, Rule/Sparkle, NEXT LEVEL and AC ~AS~ 2009 oricon year counted).
With the DVD of AT08 it will be around 735,700.

Also this year I'm sure she will sell more than million copies overall of CDs/DVDs ^^.

As far as from Jan 1st 2009? Cool O_O;

sanzo2011 18th April 2009 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1906544)
I just hope it will be consistent!

Btw ayu sold by far this year 665,776 copies (Days/GREEN, Rule/Sparkle, NEXT LEVEL and AC ~AS~ 2009 oricon year counted).
With the DVD of AT08 it will be around 735,700.

Also this year I'm sure she will sell more than million copies overall of CDs/DVDs ^^.

If she can , i'll be very happy ! i just have a thought that this year'll be the first she can't sell million copies and that makes me sad ~~!

ren'ai 19th April 2009 03:31 AM

^I'm pretty sure she can if she releases 2 more singles or something. Plus PCDL will be out soon too!

Chef+Vanny 19th April 2009 04:17 AM

i hope for a top 5 by the end of this week and of coz 350k~~:dead2

hikaricore 19th April 2009 04:37 AM

^That's quite unlikely, unless Sunday sales spike...majorly, which I doubt. Hope for 10K or above, okay?!

chloeM 19th April 2009 04:41 AM

yay... that's great news

TITANIC 19th April 2009 07:02 AM

NL rank #7 for yearly 2009 so far

*1 1,215,640 **1,751 SUPERMARKET FANTASY / Mr.Children 08/12/10
*2 *,788,462 **2,847 EXILE BALLAD BEST / EXILE 08/12/03 累計1,732,363
*3 *,523,023 *62,540 DO YOU DREAMS COME TRUE? / DREAMS COME TRUE 09/03/21
*4 *,436,368 *13,571 レミオベスト / レミオロメン 09/03/09
*5 *,393,759 **1,505 My song Your song / いきものがかり 08/12/24
*6 *,380,334 **1,079 TRICK / 倖田來未 09/01/28
*7 *,319,656 *28,575 NEXT LEVEL / 浜崎あゆみ 09/03/25

*8 *,290,886 **6,739 アルトコロニーの定理 / RADWIMPS 09/03/11
*9 *,244,001 **1,666 シャンブル / ユニコーン 09/02/18
10 *,212,411 ***,*** GIRL NEXT DOOR / GIRL NEXT DOOR 08/12/24

MissElin_ 19th April 2009 09:55 AM

^Oh, thx for this. She's pretty far away from TRICK for some reason...

music_* 19th April 2009 11:16 AM

Give her some time. TRICK did come out 2 months earlier after all.
Go Ayu!
(And I got my USB + 2CD+DVD of NL this week! :D
Now all that's left is that Deji Deji Diary... YA better find a supplier soon D: )

TITANIC 19th April 2009 11:49 AM

^ and TRICK steady on chart.

ayumisrael 19th April 2009 01:15 PM

4th Week 6th Day

Position: #6

Still 6 =D

SURREAL__RAINBOW 19th April 2009 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1907729)
4th Week 6th Day

Position: #6

Still 6 =D


cool! :D thanks!

love in music 19th April 2009 01:48 PM

looks like it's cozying up to #6 :D very nice

tokyoxjapanxfan 19th April 2009 02:32 PM

meeeh so far from trick, haha. oh well xP

still really great sales ^_^

noidea 19th April 2009 03:18 PM

seems okay to me, not good, but ok

ALfromHELLSING 19th April 2009 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riozz (Post 1907409)
NL rank #7 for yearly 2009 so far

*1 1,215,640 **1,751 SUPERMARKET FANTASY / Mr.Children 08/12/10
*2 *,788,462 **2,847 EXILE BALLAD BEST / EXILE 08/12/03 累計1,732,363
*3 *,523,023 *62,540 DO YOU DREAMS COME TRUE? / DREAMS COME TRUE 09/03/21
*4 *,436,368 *13,571 レミオベスト / レミオロメン 09/03/09
*5 *,393,759 **1,505 My song Your song / いきものがかり 08/12/24
*6 *,380,334 **1,079 TRICK / 倖田來未 09/01/28
*7 *,319,656 *28,575 NEXT LEVEL / 浜崎あゆみ 09/03/25

*8 *,290,886 **6,739 アルトコロニーの定理 / RADWIMPS 09/03/11
*9 *,244,001 **1,666 シャンブル / ユニコーン 09/02/18
10 *,212,411 ***,*** GIRL NEXT DOOR / GIRL NEXT DOOR 08/12/24

I am glad that she is in top ten. :cool

TITANIC 19th April 2009 03:35 PM

probably #8 for weekly

SolarAngel 19th April 2009 06:34 PM

8 more months... Who else hasn't released that could potentially kick NL out of top 10? And to think total sales hasn't reached 1st week sales for Secret. It makes me quite sad but what's important is that we get to enjoy the new album.

hikaricore 19th April 2009 07:23 PM

This is pretty amazing for a recent Ayu album, IMO. Guilty dropped like an anvil on the charts....

jbrat2219 19th April 2009 10:27 PM

It's doing all it can do I guess.

Lanz16 20th April 2009 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riozz (Post 1907409)
NL rank #7 for yearly 2009 so far

*1 1,215,640 **1,751 SUPERMARKET FANTASY / Mr.Children 08/12/10
*2 *,788,462 **2,847 EXILE BALLAD BEST / EXILE 08/12/03 累計1,732,363
*3 *,523,023 *62,540 DO YOU DREAMS COME TRUE? / DREAMS COME TRUE 09/03/21
*4 *,436,368 *13,571 レミオベスト / レミオロメン 09/03/09
*5 *,393,759 **1,505 My song Your song / いきものがかり 08/12/24
*6 *,380,334 **1,079 TRICK / 倖田來未 09/01/28
*7 *,319,656 *28,575 NEXT LEVEL / 浜崎あゆみ 09/03/25

*8 *,290,886 **6,739 アルトコロニーの定理 / RADWIMPS 09/03/11
*9 *,244,001 **1,666 シャンブル / ユニコーン 09/02/18
10 *,212,411 ***,*** GIRL NEXT DOOR / GIRL NEXT DOOR 08/12/24

NL needs 70k more sales just to get over with Kuu-chan's TRICK.:innocent

~X2RADialbomber~ 20th April 2009 02:28 AM

^ 60678 to tie, and 60678+ to beat her.

aavis 20th April 2009 10:51 AM

the sales amount is so disappointed
but i still like the new style of ayu

ayumisrael 20th April 2009 12:05 PM

4th Week 7th Day

Position: #6 =D

KarenPang 20th April 2009 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1909062)
4th Week 7th Day

Position: #6 =D

guess it will be top 10 once again for NEXT LEVEL :D

Chef+Vanny 20th April 2009 12:13 PM

any actual sales nuber?

waterballoon 20th April 2009 12:15 PM

Oh it's really consistent for this week!

ayumisrael 20th April 2009 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chef+Vanny (Post 1909069)
any actual sales nuber?

Tomorrow there will be the week's sales and position ^^.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 20th April 2009 12:37 PM

this album is keeping strong after all!

thats awesome :D

njanjayrp 20th April 2009 12:53 PM

Hopefully the numbers will be close to 15k :) Considering DMC is #3 with around 20k atm.

kendelle 20th April 2009 02:20 PM

I'm glad it's still going well. I think that Position #6 has a thing for NL XDDDDD

TITANIC 20th April 2009 05:24 PM

#2 at HK HMV chart

http://www.hmv.com.hk/charts/japanes...asp?subm=chart

jbrat2219 20th April 2009 06:36 PM

It seems as if each week it goes down a position and stays at that position most of the week lol.

SolarAngel 20th April 2009 06:45 PM

^That's good. I'd be happy if it hovered around #7 for the next week.

lfe. 20th April 2009 07:40 PM

It's cool that its still maintained a position in the top10. I was expecting it to disappear after the debut week. Hopefully it will sell another 30k-ish this week :)

njanjayrp 20th April 2009 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lfebaggins (Post 1909536)
It's cool that its still maintained a position in the top10. I was expecting it to disappear after the debut week. Hopefully it will sell another 30k-ish this week :)

It can't possibly sell another 30k. DCT sold less than 25k this week and they're #3.

lfe. 20th April 2009 08:41 PM

^ Oh I see. I never check the entire list on Oricon so I wasn't aware of DCT sales. Maybe 20k then? :P

Jason 20th April 2009 08:58 PM

Wow, NL is quite consistent in sales right now... and the charts. Glad to see it's doing well, though. It really is a good album =)

waterballoon 21st April 2009 07:22 AM

Remember how everyone was like disappointed in NEXT LEVEL's debut week sales, and then there was some big drama and dispute over it? Now everyone's happy that it's being consistent. :)

SURREAL__RAINBOW 21st April 2009 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 1910150)
Remember how everyone was like disappointed in NEXT LEVEL's debut week sales, and then there was some big drama and dispute over it? Now everyone's happy that it's being consistent. :)

lol thats soo true!

it dropped quiet fast but now keeps strong :)


people will still buy her albums, but maybe later on?? when it gets cheaper etc... because it was REALLY expensive xD

njanjayrp 21st April 2009 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 1910150)
Remember how everyone was like disappointed in NEXT LEVEL's debut week sales, and then there was some big drama and dispute over it? Now everyone's happy that it's being consistent. :)

there is always drama here :no

@lfebaggins - chances are it will sell close to 15k (hopefully).

Jason 21st April 2009 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by identity (Post 1910034)

Did you only read the last sentence of my post or something? The general idea of my post was that I think it's good that NL is doing well in the charts and has good sales. Which is, strangely enough, what this thread is about.

Andrenekoi 21st April 2009 08:43 AM

He was refering to a deleted post =)

love in music 21st April 2009 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason (Post 1910216)
Did you only read the last sentence of my post or something? The general idea of my post was that I think it's good that NL is doing well in the charts and has good sales. Which is, strangely enough, what this thread is about.

lol i was referring to someone elses post, but they deleted it

C+R+E+AYUMI 21st April 2009 08:57 AM

already over a million copies sold!

love in music 21st April 2009 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C+R+E+AYUMI (Post 1910250)
already over a million copies sold!

not even half..

Jason 21st April 2009 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by identity (Post 1910249)
lol i was referring to someone elses post, but they deleted it

Ah, sorry about that then :P

babamon 21st April 2009 10:42 AM

4th week sales

Position: #7
Sales: 13,131
Total sales thus far: 332,787

njanjayrp 21st April 2009 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babamon (Post 1910319)
4th week sales

Position: #7
Sales: 13,131
Total sales thus far: 332,787

less than half from the last week :(. Why do I have a feeling the album won't sell more than 370k in the end.:(

KarenPang 21st April 2009 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1910341)
less than half from the last week :(. Why do I have a feeling the album won't sell more than 370k in the end.:(

dude you're not the only 1 who feels that way :(

maybe everyone should lower their expectations & see whether can NEXT LEVEL aim for 340K 1st

SURREAL__RAINBOW 21st April 2009 11:18 AM

uhmmmmm, mini-album needs to be release to help up sales for this year LOL

KarenPang 21st April 2009 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 1910346)
uhmmmmm, mini-album needs to be release to help up sales for this year LOL

for what ? & yet another rushed release from her ? I don't think so

if that will happen I will be very annoyed at avex from forcing ayumi to release another album to make their P&L statement looked better

love in music 21st April 2009 11:55 AM

yeah i don't see this getting to 400k. oh well


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