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love in music 9th March 2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by amorphose (Post 2270624)
Well of course not all new fans are going to have the same opinion as each other and not all old fans are gonna have the same opinions as each other but what I was trying to say that an old fan is much more likely not to like You were... or AT09 for being "recycled" than a new fan is since a new fan hasn't been around long enough to see all the past stuff. Get it? :P

I see, you must mean super new fans. Because even fans who only know about her for a few months can get caught up on so much of her old stuff lol. It only took me the summer of 2007 to catch up on the stuff I missed.

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Originally Posted by koshka (Post 2270632)
but I noticed that Sunrise is higly appreciated by non-Ayufan (like a friend of mine, a huge fan of korean boyband)

The weirdest thing is my friend who usually hates those cute upbeat types of songs and isn't a fan of ayu just loves that song. it's so strange to me lol

gallowsCalibrator 9th March 2010 05:54 PM

I'm a semi-new fan, from somewhere around pre-Secret, and I really love You were... and CDL 09-10, so there might be some truth in it, but I like to think of all of us fans as the same: just Ayu's fans :D

waterballoon 9th March 2010 05:56 PM

Honestly, AT 09 is her best concert ever since AT 05, so... :laugh

Kanzaki 9th March 2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by captain-kawaii123 (Post 2270635)
I'm a semi-new fan, from somewhere around pre-Secret, and I really love You were... and CDL 09-10, so there might be some truth in it, but I like to think of all of us fans as the same: just Ayu's fans :D

As would I, but I think it was just used in the context of comparing. What else to call old fans and new fans than what they are, when describing things? I don't think there's any segregation going on, just explenations.

A world is one! :yes

Been a fan since '03 myself, consider myself semi-new...if I must.

amorphose 9th March 2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2270643)
Honestly, AT 09 is her best concert ever since AT 05, so... :laugh

I prefer AT08 so much over AT09. AT09 is her worst for me. :dead2

Haha, I guess it just goes to show that no Ayu fan has the exact same taste as any other Ayu fan even if we all love Ayu. People prefer so many different things. :P

ayumisrael 9th March 2010 06:27 PM

Yep, even though a lot hated AT 2009, it was her most entertaining tour to date for me and I'm glad that there was the boxset thing since I could get both, if not I could get only the album.

But yeah I'm happy I can have my favorite tour of ayu. :D
(and I'm a fan since the end of 2003 so I don't think that it's always old vs. new/newer fans there are some times that it might be it though) =P

Corvina 9th March 2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by amorphose (Post 2270681)
I prefer AT08 so much over AT09. AT09 is her worst for me. :dead2

Same here. Well just that for me CDL 09-10 is her worst ever, AT 09 coming in shortly after it. XD
(and I'm an Ayu fan since 2004, just to add to the discussion)

I Am... Aaron 9th March 2010 06:31 PM

Well, I finally gave up on waiting "just in case" of more limited box sets, and ordered the CD+DVD from CDJ since they explicitly show First Press and on YA it doesn't mention any bonus whatsoever...

I guess if Avex does end up putting more box sets out closer to release I will have to just have two copies :D

yelmizuno 9th March 2010 07:08 PM

I don't want to get the AT09, so I'm not worried about the box. I just have no time too see DVDs so I never buy them (just CD+DVDs versions, because I can put it into my DVD and don't need too pay too much atention) my friend always buy DVDs... so see get hers when I have time...

toniayu 9th March 2010 07:13 PM

I want to pre-order the BOX SET, but sold out everywhere ... will return has to do more?

yelmizuno 9th March 2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by koshka (Post 2270632)
I don't know how could new fans likes Yw more :shrug Yw is one of her best ballad so far imo.
And I agree, fanbase shouldn't divided into new or old fans lol (even if I've seen this discussion here on AHS times ago).
but I noticed that Sunrise is higly appreciated by non-Ayufan (like a friend of mine, a huge fan of korean boyband)

I'm a big ayu fan, and I like her since RAINBOW Album... I don't think YW is one of her best ballad xD I like BALLAD more, but it's because I like this kind of tradicional song!

And I looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooveeeeeeeeeeeeee Sunrise xD I've listened everyday for 3/4 months xD and now I still listening but just sommetimes xD I love it!

truehappiness 9th March 2010 07:34 PM

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I see, you must mean super new fans. Because even fans who only know about her for a few months can get caught up on so much of her old stuff lol. It only took me the summer of 2007 to catch up on the stuff I missed.
Yes, that is what I was talking about. People who are generally not too caught up on what Ayu has done, and are experiencing everything (evolution, Humming 7/4, her concerts, the PVs, the high production quality) for the first time or something like that. They don't have this notion of "This sounds like Together When.... or This was from CDL04-05..." everything is just fresh and new to them. IMO, sometimes I wonder if being exposed to Ayu or anything for that matter for a long period of time or a LOT at once (her entire discography/videography in a week) is a bad thing for a fandom, as it increases the likelihood of fandom abandonment. Everything in moderation, people!

I wish I worded it more correctly, but I was tiiiiiiiiiiired at the time, haha.

AngelSenshi 9th March 2010 07:36 PM

I think often enough, when sharing opinion, things shouldn't be stated a 'This is her worst to date' or 'This one was the best' and stuff like that. That is one persons opinion stated as a fact; a lot of people may share this opinion but a lot won't.

Personally, despite not particularly liking the NL tracks, I quite enjoyed what I saw of AT09. HOPE or PAIN - GREEN - Days was, to me, one of the best sets of songs that was expressed perfectly. I love those three songs in that order and expressed in that way, to the point that I re-watch it over and over and I don't get bored.

Each tour has something big and special to me, regardless of maybe an outfit recycled, a stage re-used, a routine done a million times, or vocals that aren't at the best they've been or something of that sort.

Sunrise/Sunset was always quite the debate wasn't it? I usually love ballads regardless of the type or of the artist so I expected to love Sunset a lot. In the end, despite Sunset being touching, I preferred Sunrise. I'm undecided of You were.../BALLAD since I love both tracks.

I'm also not a new fan at all, but I'll admit I haven't seen all her older stuff. So 'new fans' and 'old fans' can't be split this way, since it doesn't have that much to do with it, rather it's a difference of opinion that needs to be taken in and not argued about.

jbrat2219 9th March 2010 07:36 PM

Been a fan since '01. I pretty much love all of ayu's songs except for the few I don't lol. As long as ayu does what SHE wants to do and not what we want her to do, I'm satisfied. :)

GRACE 9th March 2010 07:40 PM

so enough new fans old fans crap, it's okay :D The real division is "stans" and "fakes" and those who fall in between. Stan praise EVERYTHING, sometimes without logic, and fakes HATE everything, sometimes without logic. And then everyone else falls in between. like 90% are middles, 5% stans, 5% fakes.

truehappiness 9th March 2010 07:46 PM

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I'm also not a new fan at all, but I'll admit I haven't seen all her older stuff. So 'new fans' and 'old fans' can't be split this way, since it doesn't have that much to do with it, rather it's a difference of opinion that needs to be taken in and not argued about.
I actually haven't seen either concert tour 2000 in full or the earlier COUNTDOWN LIVEs. I'm so bad, haha. I also didn't have any of ASFXX - I am... to listen to until about a year or two. Anyway, I feel as though fans that have seen everything have a tendency to be harsher, or at least always feel this need to bring up other works that she's done that were better, when imo, that's one of the things that shouldn't be done with an artist like Ayu. She's constantly changing and what's happened in the past was fantastic, but just like she's moved on from certain trends and music styles, some fans would rather not let go of the possibility of that Ayu returning to them, so the past becomes a sort of "road block" for some fans. I've known about Ayu since around 2001/2002 with only For My Dear and teddy bear (I also listened to First Love and HAPPY SUMMER WEDDING at the time, but I ended up selecting Ayu as my favorite artist for some mysterious reason) and every song I have listened to since then has been phenomenal and they each touch me in different ways. It's not like I'm choosing to like everything because "Ayu is the best" or anything, but it's just that to me, everything is so listenable! I don't really know many artists that are like Ayu who, time and time again, are able to create such likable albums. Stepping away from the topic of her music, I feel as though the work she puts into everything she does (whether or not people think she really did put it in or not) really shows, at least for me. That could perhaps very well be the reason why I was so attracted to her, as though some sort of sixth sense drew me towards this singer... hm.

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The real division is "stans" and "fakes" and those who fall in between. Stan praise EVERYTHING, sometimes without logic, and fakes HATE everything, sometimes without logic. And then everyone else falls in between. like 90% are middles, 5% stans, 5% fakes.
That classification in my opinion is a load of hooey. "Stan" is a vulgar word that I feel should only be used on YouTube and ONTD, because it's offensive to people who do like certain things a lot, and it's just a disgusting way to describe people that's only used by people who are unable to express themselves well imo. I would say that there really is no "real" division as it is different for everyone. In the end of it all, there will be people who like Ayu, and there will be people who dislike Ayu, and that's about as simple as it gets. I never really did see what was so wrong with liking something so much anyway. Why is it such a bad thing that someone chooses to blindly follow a celebrity or a group of people? That's their choice, and you have no right to criticize them for loving something, just as most people have no right to really criticize someone's choice to hate -insert something popular/not well known here-. (But in the case of hate, the opinions expressed can be challenged because sometimes the reasoning behind them is rather ridiculous imo.)

AngelSenshi 9th March 2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2270739)
I actually haven't seen either concert tour 2000 in full or the earlier COUNTDOWN LIVEs. I'm so bad, haha. I also didn't have any of ASFXX - I am... to listen to until about a year or two. Anyway, I feel as though fans that have seen everything have a tendency to be harsher, or at least always feel this need to bring up other works that she's done that were better, when imo, that's one of the things that shouldn't be done with an artist like Ayu. She's constantly changing and what's happened in the past was fantastic, but just like she's moved on from certain trends and music styles, some fans would rather not let go of the possibility of that Ayu returning to them, so the past becomes a sort of "road block" for some fans. I've known about Ayu since around 2001/2002 with only For My Dear and teddy bear (I also listened to First Love and HAPPY SUMMER WEDDING at the time, but I ended up selecting Ayu as my favorite artist for some mysterious reason) and every song I have listened to since then has been phenomenal and they each touch me in different ways. It's not like I'm choosing to like everything because "Ayu is the best" or anything, but it's just that to me, everything is so listenable! I don't really know many artists that are like Ayu who, time and time again, are able to create such likable albums. Stepping away from the topic of her music, I feel as though the work she puts into everything she does (whether or not people think she really did put it in or not) really shows, at least for me. That could perhaps very well be the reason why I was so attracted to her, as though some sort of sixth sense drew me towards this singer... hm.



That classification in my opinion is a load of hooey. "Stan" is a vulgar word that I feel should only be used on YouTube and ONTD, because it's offensive to people who do like certain things a lot, and it's just a disgusting way to describe people that's only used by people who are unable to express themselves well imo. I would say that there really is no "real" division as it is different for everyone. In the end of it all, there will be people who like Ayu, and there will be people who dislike Ayu, and that's about as simple as it gets. I never really did see what was so wrong with liking something so much anyway...

Whether someone likes or dislikes an artist is as simple as it gets, since everyone does have different opinions and will love an artist at varied degrees. To me, I won't force myself to like something if I don't, but I have always learnt to appreciate something for what it is.

An example being NL; that sort of music wasn't the style I was used to of any artist, so I didn't love it, and I can flat out admit that because it's just an honest opinion. But I always accepted NL for being another big part of her career; she tried something new and for a lot of people it did work because obviously there are loads of people that like it. I think a lot of people who ended up liking it, where the same people who didn't try comparing it to all her other work.

This doesn't mean I don't love her her works at varying degrees, because, again, I'm human and have different opinions, but I've never flat out hated something she's done.

Keep in mind, Ayu has never liked to stay in the same place for too long. She always wants to do something new, write something new, express something differently and that sort of drive has helped her to grow. It is probably one of the reasons for her success.

As a side note; I recently re-listened to NL because I like to give things different chances, and the AT09 tempted me, and I found I now love three tracks that are exclusive to the NL album.

love in music 9th March 2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2270739)
Anyway, I feel as though fans that have seen everything have a tendency to be harsher, or at least always feel this need to bring up other works that she's done that were better, when imo, that's one of the things that shouldn't be done with an artist like Ayu.

I've seen a lot, maybe not everything but I don't think I'm that harsh, maybe because I'm realistic and don't expect her to be perfection 24/7. I don't go watching some performance from 2004 where her vocals sounded really good and compare it to her vocal performances now and be like "omg, what a shame.. shame on ayu for not sounding like that anymore, it's all her fault, i'm so disappointed!" like some people probably do. She's never going to sound like that again and I'm over it, she has more than a good enough reason for not sounding as good as she has before. What matters the most to me is she's still creating beautiful songs (no, they don't have to always be as amazing as some of the songs on I am..., and they're not "crap" just because they aren't) and she at least tries her best.

truehappiness 9th March 2010 08:14 PM

I find that with Ayu, her works grow on people over time, even if they initially disliked them. It's a rather strange phenomenon that has happened with the last 3-4 albums, with people initially really disliking the albums because they were new/not great/crap to people... and then after about 4-5 months or a year, people were suddenly IN LOVE after rediscovering the albums! It's really weird, haha.

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This doesn't mean I don't love her works at varying degrees, because, again, I'm human and have different opinions, but I've never flat out hated something she's done.
Same goes for me. One of my least favorite tracks ever is GUILTY, but I still sometimes can see how good it is when relistening to it! Haha.

Oh, and about NEXT LEVEL, my feelings towards the album is that it was a full-on experiment and that Ayu was trying to present something new/different to her audience which had never been heard by her before. She succeeded in presenting something different imo, but because the album tracks were so experimental and all fit together really well [save NL/Curtain call] the single tracks kind of didn't fit into the album [sans Sparkle]. There are people who simply say that NEXT LEVEL is a horrible album, but I feel that these people are just simply too used to/too set on hearing an older Ayu. Because of this, I feel it's kind of "good news" that Rock'n'Roll Circus will be a return to Ayu's basics, since people who did not appreciate NEXT LEVEL might actually like it! Though I think some people feel that NEXT LEVEL was a direction that she was going in musically, when I really don't feel that way at all. It was a temporary detour along the way that she took, and now she's back on her usual "path" or something of that nature.

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I don't go watching some performance from 2004 where her vocals sounded really good and compare it to her vocal performances now and be like "omg, what a shame.. shame on ayu for not sounding like that anymore, it's all her fault, i'm so disappointed!" like some people probably do.
For me, her vocals have always been sort of "eh" haha. So it's always been like, "Oh, people are angry about her vocals being bad?" whenever it's brought up. I've never really had a problem with it because it's something I can't really control as a fan (and neither can anyone else) and I just have faith that Ayu is doing the best that she can with what she has, and I truly do feel that way. Whether or not people like what she's putting out, I think that she is putting her heart into it and in the end, for me that's all that matters when it comes to her work. As long as she's putting her all into it, it's fine with me.

Honestly I can't say that it was all fun and joyful but I was never alone. I want to show you a dream. I hope you will have a never-ending and lasting dream. This is my wish.
-- MY ALL
But this song is definitely a love song sent to you, my dear from my heart
--Curtain call


AngelSenshi 9th March 2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2270753)
I find that with Ayu, her works grow on people over time, even if they initially disliked them. It's a rather strange phenomenon that has happened with the last 3-4 albums, with people initially really disliking the albums because they were new/not great/crap to people... and then after about 4-5 months or a year, people were suddenly IN LOVE after rediscovering the albums! It's really weird, haha.



Same goes for me. One of my least favorite tracks ever is GUILTY, but I still sometimes can see how good it is when relistening to it! Haha.

Oh, and about NEXT LEVEL, my feelings towards the album is that it was a full-on experiment and that Ayu was trying to present something new/different to her audience which had never been heard by her before. She succeeded in presenting something different imo, but because the album tracks were so experimental and all fit together really well [save NL/Curtain call] the single tracks kind of didn't fit into the album [sans Sparkle]. There are people who simply say that NEXT LEVEL is a horrible album, but I feel that these people are just simply too used to/too set on hearing an older Ayu. Because of this, I feel it's kind of "good news" that Rock'n'Roll Circus will be a return to Ayu's basics, since people who did not appreciate NEXT LEVEL might actually like it! Though I think some people feel that NEXT LEVEL was a direction that she was going in musically, when I really don't feel that way at all. It was a temporary detour along the way that she took, and now she's back on her usual "path" or something of that nature.


For me, her vocals have always been sort of "eh" haha. So it's always been like, "Oh, people are angry about her vocals being bad?" whenever it's brought up. I've never really had a problem with it because it's something I can't really control as a fan (and neither can anyone else) and I just have faith that Ayu is doing the best that she can with what she has, and I truly do feel that way. Whether or not people like what she's putting out, I think that she is putting her heart into it and in the end, for me that's all that matters when it comes to her work. As long as she's putting her all into it, it's fine with me.

Honestly I can't say that it was all fun and joyful but I was never alone. I want to show you a dream. I hope you will have a never-ending and lasting dream. This is my wish.
-- MY ALL
But this song is definitely a love song sent to you, my dear from my heart
--Curtain call


It only makes sense that people like things to varying degrees, right? Since that's a matter of taste that can't be helped. I also think NL was just something she wanted to try; I think she wanted to be able to give her listeners something they hadn't heard from her before, and I think she also wanted to try it for herself, to see if she could love it in such a manner. I'm not sure if she planned on continuing it or if she planned on just trying it out. Maybe she wanted to see what she could do with it all in a tour.

I have faith that I'll love the new album; I've just got this feeling that I will.

As for her voice, I love an artist that just uses what they have and doesn't focus on perfection. I definitely think she has a wonderful singing, I definitely think she's talented, but it's just impossible to sound the same way forever, and it's definitely impossible to sound perfect at every show. I just focus most of all on the emotions, and the expression of the song. Because I want to feel something when I hear an artist.

I'd put this under a spoiler because it's somewhat unrelated but I realized I don't know how. The singer of Plastic Tree, Ryutarou, does not have a talented singing voice. If you want to get technical, he doesn't sing, since he uses his talking voice. But Plastic Tree has a massive fanbase and they'll all tell you his lyrics with his voice just make them fall in love with the music because it makes them feel something, it makes them cry, it makes them laugh, it makes them feel pain, the loneliness, it makes them feel love, being loved or the want to love. To me, that's more important than a technically perfect voice; that doesn't change just because Ayu is in a different genre.

aura~ 9th March 2010 09:31 PM

wow, long psots, but I read them all...

about haters and all that... I also have things that I don't like, even if they aren't a lot. I don't like went people say sth bad just saying: this is the worst "......". PLAF. No, this is FOR you your least favourite of whatever. Reading things liek that, makes peopel that like it feel like we are idiot for liking it, or that we doesn't have idea of what is good and what is bad or sth like this. But as I also have things I don't like from AYu, I respect people who doesn't liek sth (though sometime there're users that don't like anythign, and then I wonder if they really like the Ayu we have now)

And also think what TH said, about the fact that 4-5 years after a release people like it more than before... I think it happened with Guilty... I remember that there was a lot of dislike for it, and almost in every letter for ayu for the AWIO book I saw Guilty as a favourite album XD (and I'm glad cause it's one of my fav XD)

NEXT LEVEL was really good for me at first, then feeeeelllll down a LOT, but today I was listening to it and I found myself enjoying the album a LOT! NL, sparkle, identity, rule, curtain call... I love them really ^^ I think after some time for one reason or another people will find NL as a great album (because they really love it, or because there are people who always find the last release as the worst of her career so the previous one automatically are upgraded XD)


oh lol, long post by me tooo ^^

AngelSenshi 9th March 2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by walking.proud (Post 2270808)
wow, long psots, but I read them all...

about haters and all that... I also have things that I don't like, even if they aren't a lot. I don't like went people say sth bad just saying: this is the worst "......". PLAF. No, this is FOR you your least favourite of whatever. Reading things liek that, makes peopel that like it feel like we are idiot for liking it, or that we doesn't have idea of what is good and what is bad or sth like this. But as I also have things I don't like from AYu, I respect people who doesn't liek sth (though sometime there're users that don't like anythign, and then I wonder if they really like the Ayu we have now)

And also think what TH said, about the fact that 4-5 years after a release people like it more than before... I think it happened with Guilty... I remember that there was a lot of dislike for it, and almost in every letter for ayu for the AWIO book I saw Guilty as a favourite album XD (and I'm glad cause it's one of my fav XD)

NEXT LEVEL was really good for me at first, then feeeeelllll down a LOT, but today I was listening to it and I found myself enjoying the album a LOT! NL, sparkle, identity, rule, curtain call... I love them really ^^ I think after some time for one reason or another people will find NL as a great album (because they really love it, or because there are people who always find the last release as the worst of her career so the previous one automatically are upgraded XD)


oh lol, long post by me tooo ^^

Forgive me for long posts; I'm a writer, and when it comes to certain things I find words just spill out and I really would like to get my message across clearly, also without hurting anyone's feelings which is kinda difficult to do with few words.

I think that the time in peoples lives also helps whether or not they'll accept certain music right away. At a time where I was miserable I wouldn't be listening to a song like Sparkle, but that's just me. Maybe I wasn't at a time where I could listen to certain songs on NL. Different people then accept different types of songs at different times. GUILTY is considered a darker album to something like NL, thus people who are at their happiest don't tend to love GUILTY at that moment, possibly.

As for the haters; there are some that hang out here so often, and yet they have complaints about just about everything; it makes me wonder why they're here, or if they like Ayu right now or not. Difference of opinions is fine, but if all that can be said is negative then why stick around? Such opposite opinions of 'I absolutely hate it; it's the worst' and all that makes me appreciate polls because it's just a number I can ignore.

everlastingRAINBOW 9th March 2010 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2270643)
Honestly, AT 09 is her best concert ever since AT 05, so... :laugh

Amen! My thoughts EXACTLY! The NL tour was on par with the MS tour, and the ones in between fell wayyy short (expecially the Secret tour). Hopefully this tour and album will be on par with NL :yes

P.S. These last few post have been wayyyy to long for me too read :laugh

AngelSenshi 9th March 2010 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen-Of-Hip-Pop (Post 2270848)
Amen! My thoughts EXACTLY! The NL tour was on par with the MS tour, and the ones in between fell wayyy short (expecially the Secret tour). Hopefully this tour and album will be on par with NL :yes

P.S. These last few post have been wayyyy to long for me too read :laugh

It shows; since your post just highlighted the point of a lot of what we were saying.

:headache

truehappiness 9th March 2010 10:36 PM

A nail! It was hit on the head. DIRECTLY.

-clang!-

It's a bit strange that posts that are only a few paragraphs long are "too long to read"... I mean, what happens when you have to read a novel/book then? -shivers-

I guess that's kind of why I ended up making this for someone, but I don't think I'll ever use it, haha.
http://i48.tinypic.com/1zwz2m8.jpg

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Originally Posted by AngelSenshi (Post 2270860)
It was like an ironic moment in a movie! It couldn't have happened any sooner!

This has actually happened about 3 or 4 times in the past. Someone would come up and say "Dude, your posts are too long. I really hate NEXT LEVEL compared to ________!" and then that'd be what we were talking about in the long posts... -blinks-

AngelSenshi 9th March 2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2270857)
A nail! It was hit on the head. DIRECTLY.

-clang!-

It was like an ironic moment in a movie! It couldn't have happened any sooner!

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This has actually happened in the past. Someone would come up and say "Dude, your posts are too long. I really hate NEXT LEVEL compared to ________!" and then that'd be what we were talking about in the long posts... -blinks-
It's shocking really; we need to stick around and listen to their blunt and negative opinions, but opinions of other people are ignored because they're 'too long'.

truehappiness 9th March 2010 10:44 PM

Hm, random think to be "on topic" about, but I just realized a while back how easily "Rock'n'Roll Circus" could be switched around letter-wise to be read as "Rick'n'Roll Circus"...

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Tracks 1 - 7 out of 14+:
1. NEVER
2. GONNA
3. GIVE
4. YOU
5. UP
6. You were...
7. taskinrickrolled
Wait a minute.... did she just... hahaha.

Keiichi_JPU 9th March 2010 11:00 PM

^ thanks for just ruining the entire album for me

:laugh

truehappiness 9th March 2010 11:03 PM

Thanks, I'll be here all week. Try the veal, haha.

I'm on this Ayu listening marathon until the album comes out... I should watch the CMs for the songs we know of so far on the PS3 [HD .ts files!] too...

love in music 9th March 2010 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2270866)
Hm, random think to be "on topic" about, but I just realized a while back how easily "Rock'n'Roll Circus" could be switched around letter-wise to be read as "Rick'n'Roll Circus"...


Wait a minute.... did she just... hahaha.

LOL

AyUta 9th March 2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2270889)
Thanks, I'll be here all week. Try the veal, haha.

I'm on this Ayu listening marathon until the album comes out... I should watch the CMs for the songs we know of so far on the PS3 [HD .ts files!] too...

Haha, I need to do that too. Thing is, I don't have any of her albums in my Ipod :eviltongu Need to get to downloading!

Kazeyomi 9th March 2010 11:55 PM

saved :D lol

ayumisrael 9th March 2010 11:58 PM

The prize campaign is also on neowing (CDJapan) just that neowing announced it and it's not on CDJapan yet (but it's the same thing anyway)

They have 150 prizes!
You might win 1 if you pre-order Rock'n'Roll Circus or/and ARENA TOUR 2009 ~NEXT LEVEL~ A or/and the Limited Boxset (even though they wrote that they apologize in advance since it already sold out lol).

http://www.neowing.co.jp/rcms/jpop/h...ign201004.html

The deadline for the prize campaign is 7th April so you have to pre-order until then if you want to enter the lottery.

If there are additional things on the page someone wants to translate you're welcome!
I wrote just the things I understood from my Japanese. ^^

nanakopy87 10th March 2010 12:10 AM

so,this is the lottery thingy hmv had also?150 prizes only?

ayumisrael 10th March 2010 12:18 AM

Yes.

AngelSenshi 10th March 2010 12:39 AM

I pre-ordered first day, so now it's up to luck :D Though when the pre-order for a single of a jrock band I want to order I may consider getting the CD Only version also, just to have them shipped at the same time.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 10th March 2010 12:47 AM

I'm hoping and praying for a MY STORY-esque 17 tracks for this album; however, if there were any CREA compositions, I could definitely settle for only 14. haha...I know it's unlikely but that's my wish

everlastingRAINBOW 10th March 2010 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2270927)
The prize campaign is also on neowing (CDJapan) just that neowing announced it and it's not on CDJapan yet (but it's the same thing anyway)

They have 150 prizes!
You might win 1 if you pre-order Rock'n'Roll Circus or/and ARENA TOUR 2009 ~NEXT LEVEL~ A or/and the Limited Boxset (even though they wrote that they apologize in advance since it already sold out lol).

http://www.neowing.co.jp/rcms/jpop/h...ign201004.html

The deadline for the prize campaign is 7th April so you have to pre-order until then if you want to enter the lottery.

If there are additional things on the page someone wants to translate you're welcome!
I wrote just the things I understood from my Japanese. ^^

Aren't her lotteries usually like 250 prizes? 0.o! It seems so limited, and it kinda stinks that people who buy just the DVD will be entered in the lottery of Rock'n'Roll Circus prizes :/! I asumme the stuff is going to be related specifically to the album so it seems a bit weird to me :headache

AngelSenshi 10th March 2010 12:49 AM

Some CREA tracks would definitely be interesting; considering I've loved most if not all her compositions, I'd love it if this album had some.

waterballoon 10th March 2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2270960)
I'm hoping and praying for a MY STORY-esque 17 tracks for this album; however, if there were any CREA compositions, I could definitely settle for only 14. haha...I know it's unlikely but that's my wish

My sentiments exactly. haha

Cherry Dynamite 10th March 2010 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Neffiline (Post 2270571)
Where did you order your box?

From past experience, with CDJapan and YesAsia, you only pay once your order has been shipped. Never before...

I checked out and used IPMO as the payment method and I'm guessing since it's out of stock I won't get a copy since I haven't paid yet = They haven't prepared/processed my order yet. When you use IPMO they won't process your order until they received your payment.

Does it work like that too for preorder? LOL If they save me a copy since I did checked-out I'm so gonna send them IPMO now.
And if you're going to ask why I'm using IPMO simply because I can't access my cards >.> My parents took them.

mobius 10th March 2010 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2270889)
I'm on this Ayu listening marathon until the album comes out...

Hah, I'll probably start my Ayu's marathon again beginning next month. Last time I did it was when her last single came out.

Zeke. 10th March 2010 01:30 AM

I never knew so many members did this "Ayu marathon" thing.

Recently I've begun listening to her more, especially evolution from A BEST 2. Gosh, it's such a good song - I never fully appreciated the whole structure or genious of it. In my Bose headphones you can really pick out each instrument and really deconstruct the song (along with other songs).

yelmizuno 10th March 2010 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BanaCherry (Post 2270985)
I checked out and used IPMO as the payment method and I'm guessing since it's out of stock I won't get a copy since I haven't paid yet = They haven't prepared/processed my order yet. When you use IPMO they won't process your order until they received your payment.

Does it work like that too for preorder? LOL If they save me a copy since I did checked-out I'm so gonna send them IPMO now.
And if you're going to ask why I'm using IPMO simply because I can't access my cards >.> My parents took them.

Don't worry, the box is yours! I've bought A COMPLETES FP, and is this, you will only pay when its ship, don't worry! Your box is safe!

truehappiness 10th March 2010 01:34 AM

Quote:

I never knew so many members did this "Ayu marathon" thing.
I think most people do it when a new release from -insert artist- comes out...

GRACE 10th March 2010 01:35 AM

I've been doing an Ayu marathon for like four-five weeks now, an album a week driving to and from school. out of the ones I own, I have Secret and then A BEST and the A BEST 2 duo. I should have enough to last me till the album since I don't have school next week :D

jbrat2219 10th March 2010 01:43 AM

I was blasting Sparkle rollin' up in my neighborhood scaring all the old ladies.

Cherry Dynamite 10th March 2010 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yelmizuno (Post 2270994)
Don't worry, the box is yours! I've bought A COMPLETES FP, and is this, you will only pay when its ship, don't worry! Your box is safe!

Yay hopefully just hopefully I'll get the money >.> I used it up for my clothes since I thought I had no chance of getting it

truehappiness 10th March 2010 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2271006)
I was blasting Sparkle rollin' up in my neighborhood scaring all the old ladies.

That's how Ayu fans roll, you kno' what I'm sayin'?

"Sekai ga mawaruuuu"

~Sparkle rollin'~

I swear, Microphone is gonna get blared... it sounds like such a BAMFing song...

mobius 10th March 2010 02:10 AM

^ lol, I'm ready to blast Don't look back. Such a driving music, makes me want to drive fast on the expressway

majrakun 10th March 2010 02:11 AM

Lol the long posts ended so abruptly, I was enjoying them already.

I've been on an Ayu concert marathon. One disc per night, at least. I've already watched CDL06-07 and AT07. Took me four nights XD

duque 10th March 2010 02:17 AM

Im watching 2 concerts per week xD and started adding more ayu song to my daily playlists XD warming up to the release of her new album and concert!! XD

truehappiness 10th March 2010 02:21 AM

Yeah, I've watched like 4 concerts in the last two weeks and listened to all of the albums basically, even ASFXX! I'm aching.

Quote:

Lol the long posts ended so abruptly, I was enjoying them already.
There's honestly nothing to have long posts about at the moment... haha.

Cherry Dynamite 10th March 2010 02:30 AM

Woah I'm so Happy :D They did processed and save a copy for me.
NOW I NEED THE MONEY! I still need like 70 bucks and I don't know how I can get that.
I used up all my allowances and my parents are not here.

jean-baptiste 10th March 2010 02:31 AM

^^the posts were so long, by first glance, i thought there was an argument going on. xD
i read all of them though, and i was surprised to see friendly discussion within the long posts. i wish i was around while you guys were discussing though. >_<

truehappiness 10th March 2010 02:33 AM

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i read all of them though, and i was surprised to see friendly discussion within the long posts. i wish i was around while you guys were discussing though. >_<
Usually arguments just have all caps and several curse words / name-dropping, haha. Friendly discussion = rare at AHS?! (Yes.)

mobius 10th March 2010 02:40 AM

^ lol yeah, or sometimes it may also end up in the trash can section of the forums.

BluishDays 10th March 2010 03:08 AM

A new album ^O^ Time to get excited lol :luv2 And the lottery prizes. Given my history I win one - I lose one - I win one - I lose one - LOL so if this is true then I should win this time around :yes

Picaflor 7/4 10th March 2010 03:15 AM

@entire thread: tl;dr

anyways. i realized, that this is cd/4dvd. it crossed my mind, what if it was dvd/4cd. that would be crazy wouldn't it? XD

jean-baptiste 10th March 2010 03:26 AM

^that'd be awesome!

but i think we'd get something like Christina Aguilera's Back To Basics. imo, it was 2 CD's of fillers. well not all of it, but a good half of it.

Zeke. 10th March 2010 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2270995)
I think most people do it when a new release from -insert artist- comes out...

Ok, I guess I do that too but I don't realize it as a marathon. It makes sense though. I constantly am listening to my iPod at work and at home and before UNIVERSE I had a strong koda kumi marathon. ha ha. I guess I'm doing the same with Rock'n'Roll Circus. Been listening to a lot of Ayu's rock stuff/my story/guilty/secret songs.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 10th March 2010 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2271131)
Ok, I guess I do that too but I don't realize it as a marathon. It makes sense though. I constantly am listening to my iPod at work and at home and before UNIVERSE I had a strong koda kumi marathon. ha ha. I guess I'm doing the same with Rock'n'Roll Circus. Been listening to a lot of Ayu's rock stuff/my story/guilty/secret songs.


Honestly I think I rotate ayu REALLLLY heavily on my iPod...so nothing really is different for me...haha

I Am... Aaron 10th March 2010 04:27 AM

I listen to Ayu all the time but I'm doing the "marathon thing" too now. Been watching a concert a night for the last few nights, and have listened through I am..., Duty, and MY STORY. Gonna watch the 30th Single Collection A Museum DVD tonight. :D

Emperatriz Ayumi 10th March 2010 05:25 AM

Iīm amazed with 17 clips in the DVD... Canīt wait to see them!!

I need to have a look at the covers RIGHT NOW!!!

wildconnetta 10th March 2010 07:33 AM

I'm doing a Ayu Music Marathon!!!

thinkingoutloud89 10th March 2010 07:36 AM

me too
have thousand listens for her in the last 7 days war a week now in last.fm...
currently doing the live and remix stuff^^

TeddyGrahams 10th March 2010 07:38 AM

OMG the album will have the AT09 DVD included?!

That would save me loads of money! ^^~ Woot!!!
Unless, well of course it's obscenely priced. Especially when this is an ayu release, avex will love to milk our wallets. Either way, gotta starve for a few days- wait, make that a few weeks. Haha.

I've always done an ayu marathon, since she's about the only person I listen to. :luv2:innocent

truehappiness 10th March 2010 07:59 AM

Quote:

OMG the album will have the AT09 DVD included?!
Only if you buy the box, which costs more than AT09+the album. Yeah, it's really not that great of a deal...

Zeke. 10th March 2010 08:03 AM

avex just loves packaging things, don't they?

new albums+best albums - check
new albums+arena tours - uncharted territory!

Lol.

ALPHY 10th March 2010 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2270995)
I think most people do it when a new release from -insert artist- comes out...

Very, very true.

TeddyGrahams 10th March 2010 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2271277)
Only if you buy the box, which costs more than AT09+the album. Yeah, it's really not that great of a deal...

But the box looks so cool. :thudv

Damn, talk about milking the fans!

aura~ 10th March 2010 08:18 AM

yeah...

This time it's not like the USB... imo, they are not making a lot of money from the BOX itself cause who can't get the box and want both things can buy them individualy... it's only 1800Y that they loose from people that can't get the BOX... this is more like a special package because the release day is the same, or an oportunity to have sth special, than an avex way to get more money...

The USB was diferent... the album and DVD tracks (without making) were inside an USB, the digital tracks costs anything like the phisical CD price, so from that price (of the digital songs and PV) to 6800Y it's all because of the USB, so they got a lot of money from this...

for this reason, I don't see them making more boxes available as they did for the USB... don't know -____-

njanjayrp 10th March 2010 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2271279)
avex just loves packaging things, don't they?

new albums+best albums - check
new albums+arena tours - uncharted territory!

Lol.

Well the two aren't really the same thing~ as they actually charge for both the album and the tour~

AngelSenshi 10th March 2010 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by walking.proud (Post 2271286)
yeah...

This time it's not like the USB... imo, they are not making a lot of money from the BOX itself cause who can't get the box and want both things can buy them individualy... it's only 1800Y that they loose from people that can't get the BOX... this is more like a special package because the release day is the same, or an oportunity to have sth special, than an avex way to get more money...

The USB was diferent... the album and DVD tracks (without making) were inside an USB, the digital tracks costs anything like the phisical CD price, so from that price (of the digital songs and PV) to 6800Y it's all because of the USB, so they got a lot of money from this...

for this reason, I don't see them making more boxes available as they did for the USB... don't know -____-

Yeah, this makes a lot of sense. I've been thinking for a while that this box set is nothing like the USB.

Foyuki 10th March 2010 09:08 AM

Here is a new information got from avex.
CD ONLY First press includes something special too.But it is not a full colour photobook shot in London.

AngelSenshi 10th March 2010 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foyuki (Post 2271306)
Here is a new information got from avex.
CD ONLY First press includes something special too.But it is not a full colour photobook shot in London.

I think we already knew this; we're just waiting to know what the special thing is.

aura~ 10th March 2010 09:52 AM

^
^
seriously? damn it!! I mean... now I MUST buy it for sure XD

ayumisrael 10th March 2010 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walking.proud (Post 2271332)
^
^
seriously? damn it!! I mean... now I MUST buy it for sure XD

Well neowing wrote that the CD+DVD has an additional first press so maybe you get both with the CD+DVD first press version and just one (or also both) with the CD only version. XD

Didz-19 10th March 2010 09:58 AM

@entire thread: tl;dr

anyways. i realized, that this is cd/4dvd. it crossed my mind, what if it was dvd/4cd. that would be crazy wouldn't it? XD

It did...A COMPLETE album? but it just 3cd/Dvd..hehehe:innocent

truehappiness 10th March 2010 10:11 AM

Quote:

anyways. i realized, that this is cd/4dvd. it crossed my mind, what if it was dvd/4cd. that would be crazy wouldn't it? XD
This new album is NOT CD+4DVD. It's CD+DVD+a 3DVD set.

aura~ 10th March 2010 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2271333)
Well neowing wrote that the CD+DVD has an additional first press so maybe you get both with the CD+DVD first press version and just one (or also both) with the CD only version. XD

an aditional first press with the photobook?? Well I already wanted to buy the CD only in TA for the gift, so if it goes with another type of first press gift is welcome XDD

~YAY for my first CD bought through TA *-*~

Do TA/mu-mo give the lotery gifts too???

Foyuki 10th March 2010 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walking.proud (Post 2271332)
^
^
seriously? damn it!! I mean... now I MUST buy it for sure XD

yep
and I will update if I get other info.
and Taiwan importing JP 1st press has started.
http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=726951972
SPECIAL LIMITED BOX SET has stopped pre-order now.

~angel*ayumi~ 10th March 2010 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walking.proud (Post 2271348)
Do TA/mu-mo give the lotery gifts too???

I was asking that several times allready but it seems nobody knows xD

truehappiness 10th March 2010 10:35 AM

I actually don't recall them ever doing the lotteries, and I figured it was because they already have their own special guaranteed bonuses for TeamAyu/mu-mo buyers.

nanakopy87 10th March 2010 10:44 AM

i'm still thinking if i should get JP press or wit for TW press.the 1st press item for CD only haven't confirm yet.i don't know if i should pre-order now or not T_T

Foyuki 10th March 2010 10:58 AM

You can preorder TW imported JP press.Not TW press
The price is cool
But it will end on 12th(with this price)

nanakopy87 10th March 2010 11:23 AM

what is the differences between JP press and TW imported JP press?

Foyuki 10th March 2010 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanakopy87 (Post 2271387)
what is the differences between JP press and TW imported JP press?

1.they have an import sticker outside(it has no effect on original press)
2.the date they ship them to TW is in late April(later than TW press and JP press)
3.the price is lower than JP press

Keiichi_JPU 10th March 2010 11:36 AM

I know everyone's saying CDJapan does the lottery, but how do you guys know that?

I'm about to order them and it would be a shame if CDJ didn't do the lottery after all!

ayumisrael 10th March 2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 2271397)
I know everyone's saying CDJapan does the lottery, but how do you guys know that?

I'm about to order them and it would be a shame if CDJ didn't do the lottery after all!

Because it's on neowing (the company and Japanese site of CDJapan).

truehappiness 10th March 2010 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 2271397)
I know everyone's saying CDJapan does the lottery, but how do you guys know that?

I'm about to order them and it would be a shame if CDJ didn't do the lottery after all!

We know it because they did it for A BEST 2, GUILTY, A COMPLETE, NEXT LEVEL, and there's no reason for them to stop? Haha.

the3ye 10th March 2010 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 2271397)
I know everyone's saying CDJapan does the lottery, but how do you guys know that?

I'm about to order them and it would be a shame if CDJ didn't do the lottery after all!

it's hard to go to CDJ, isn't it?
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/rcms/jpop/2..._campaign.html

~angel*ayumi~ 10th March 2010 12:51 PM

I was on CDJ and also didnīt see it (because I looked on the left were it showed NL Draw last year) so donīt blame him.

Itīs really sad to see the 60+ boxes on yahoo.... so many ppl buy them just to make profit while true fans didnīt get the chance to get one ><

truehappiness 10th March 2010 01:00 PM

NEXT LEVEL's release pattern:
Quote:

3/25 release date
3/3 One jacket photo released
3/6 All jacket photos released
3/11 Album song's chaku-uta released
3/14 Album CM released
3/18 Album song PVs released
If Rock'n'Roll Circus' patterns are to mirror NEXT LEVEL, it should go something like this.
Quote:

4/14 release date
3/24 One jacket photo released
3/27 All jacket photos released
4/1 Album song chaku-uta released
4/4 Album CM released
4/8 Album song PVs released
It'd mean two weeks until covers are revealed but hey... -shrug-

~StarCatcher~ 10th March 2010 01:06 PM

I don't want to wait another 2 weeks @_@
:D

y_nathz 10th March 2010 01:09 PM

Two weeks ? :thud
I wanna die... x_x

yabieru 10th March 2010 01:12 PM

2 weeks... afkjfbsjkgd *agony*

I want the tracklist U___U

ayumisrael 10th March 2010 01:14 PM

Yeah we should get one of the covers/all of them and the tracklist on the 23rd or 24th. >_> Two weeks to wait...

EDIT

There you go

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/rcms/jpop/2..._campaign.html

The Lucky Draw's on CDJapan. ^^

yelmizuno 10th March 2010 01:27 PM

two weeks!??? It's too much >_<

Keiichi_JPU 10th March 2010 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the3ye (Post 2271449)

You don't have to be all witty about it, I went to CDJapan but I just never found that page. So I decided it was easier to just ask here, cause you guys know this anyway.

So thanks :)

*ordering*


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