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Rock 'n' Roll Circus - 4/14 new album information [III]
(http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99082)
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I'm a semi-new fan, from somewhere around pre-Secret, and I really love You were... and CDL 09-10, so there might be some truth in it, but I like to think of all of us fans as the same: just Ayu's fans :D
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Honestly, AT 09 is her best concert ever since AT 05, so... :laugh
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A world is one! :yes Been a fan since '03 myself, consider myself semi-new...if I must. |
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Haha, I guess it just goes to show that no Ayu fan has the exact same taste as any other Ayu fan even if we all love Ayu. People prefer so many different things. :P |
Yep, even though a lot hated AT 2009, it was her most entertaining tour to date for me and I'm glad that there was the boxset thing since I could get both, if not I could get only the album.
But yeah I'm happy I can have my favorite tour of ayu. :D (and I'm a fan since the end of 2003 so I don't think that it's always old vs. new/newer fans there are some times that it might be it though) =P |
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(and I'm an Ayu fan since 2004, just to add to the discussion) |
Well, I finally gave up on waiting "just in case" of more limited box sets, and ordered the CD+DVD from CDJ since they explicitly show First Press and on YA it doesn't mention any bonus whatsoever...
I guess if Avex does end up putting more box sets out closer to release I will have to just have two copies :D |
I don't want to get the AT09, so I'm not worried about the box. I just have no time too see DVDs so I never buy them (just CD+DVDs versions, because I can put it into my DVD and don't need too pay too much atention) my friend always buy DVDs... so see get hers when I have time...
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I want to pre-order the BOX SET, but sold out everywhere ... will return has to do more?
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And I looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooveeeeeeeeeeeeee Sunrise xD I've listened everyday for 3/4 months xD and now I still listening but just sommetimes xD I love it! |
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I wish I worded it more correctly, but I was tiiiiiiiiiiired at the time, haha. |
I think often enough, when sharing opinion, things shouldn't be stated a 'This is her worst to date' or 'This one was the best' and stuff like that. That is one persons opinion stated as a fact; a lot of people may share this opinion but a lot won't.
Personally, despite not particularly liking the NL tracks, I quite enjoyed what I saw of AT09. HOPE or PAIN - GREEN - Days was, to me, one of the best sets of songs that was expressed perfectly. I love those three songs in that order and expressed in that way, to the point that I re-watch it over and over and I don't get bored. Each tour has something big and special to me, regardless of maybe an outfit recycled, a stage re-used, a routine done a million times, or vocals that aren't at the best they've been or something of that sort. Sunrise/Sunset was always quite the debate wasn't it? I usually love ballads regardless of the type or of the artist so I expected to love Sunset a lot. In the end, despite Sunset being touching, I preferred Sunrise. I'm undecided of You were.../BALLAD since I love both tracks. I'm also not a new fan at all, but I'll admit I haven't seen all her older stuff. So 'new fans' and 'old fans' can't be split this way, since it doesn't have that much to do with it, rather it's a difference of opinion that needs to be taken in and not argued about. |
Been a fan since '01. I pretty much love all of ayu's songs except for the few I don't lol. As long as ayu does what SHE wants to do and not what we want her to do, I'm satisfied. :)
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so enough new fans old fans crap, it's okay :D The real division is "stans" and "fakes" and those who fall in between. Stan praise EVERYTHING, sometimes without logic, and fakes HATE everything, sometimes without logic. And then everyone else falls in between. like 90% are middles, 5% stans, 5% fakes.
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An example being NL; that sort of music wasn't the style I was used to of any artist, so I didn't love it, and I can flat out admit that because it's just an honest opinion. But I always accepted NL for being another big part of her career; she tried something new and for a lot of people it did work because obviously there are loads of people that like it. I think a lot of people who ended up liking it, where the same people who didn't try comparing it to all her other work. This doesn't mean I don't love her her works at varying degrees, because, again, I'm human and have different opinions, but I've never flat out hated something she's done. Keep in mind, Ayu has never liked to stay in the same place for too long. She always wants to do something new, write something new, express something differently and that sort of drive has helped her to grow. It is probably one of the reasons for her success. As a side note; I recently re-listened to NL because I like to give things different chances, and the AT09 tempted me, and I found I now love three tracks that are exclusive to the NL album. |
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I find that with Ayu, her works grow on people over time, even if they initially disliked them. It's a rather strange phenomenon that has happened with the last 3-4 albums, with people initially really disliking the albums because they were new/not great/crap to people... and then after about 4-5 months or a year, people were suddenly IN LOVE after rediscovering the albums! It's really weird, haha.
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Oh, and about NEXT LEVEL, my feelings towards the album is that it was a full-on experiment and that Ayu was trying to present something new/different to her audience which had never been heard by her before. She succeeded in presenting something different imo, but because the album tracks were so experimental and all fit together really well [save NL/Curtain call] the single tracks kind of didn't fit into the album [sans Sparkle]. There are people who simply say that NEXT LEVEL is a horrible album, but I feel that these people are just simply too used to/too set on hearing an older Ayu. Because of this, I feel it's kind of "good news" that Rock'n'Roll Circus will be a return to Ayu's basics, since people who did not appreciate NEXT LEVEL might actually like it! Though I think some people feel that NEXT LEVEL was a direction that she was going in musically, when I really don't feel that way at all. It was a temporary detour along the way that she took, and now she's back on her usual "path" or something of that nature. Quote:
Honestly I can't say that it was all fun and joyful but I was never alone. I want to show you a dream. I hope you will have a never-ending and lasting dream. This is my wish. |
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I have faith that I'll love the new album; I've just got this feeling that I will. As for her voice, I love an artist that just uses what they have and doesn't focus on perfection. I definitely think she has a wonderful singing, I definitely think she's talented, but it's just impossible to sound the same way forever, and it's definitely impossible to sound perfect at every show. I just focus most of all on the emotions, and the expression of the song. Because I want to feel something when I hear an artist. I'd put this under a spoiler because it's somewhat unrelated but I realized I don't know how. The singer of Plastic Tree, Ryutarou, does not have a talented singing voice. If you want to get technical, he doesn't sing, since he uses his talking voice. But Plastic Tree has a massive fanbase and they'll all tell you his lyrics with his voice just make them fall in love with the music because it makes them feel something, it makes them cry, it makes them laugh, it makes them feel pain, the loneliness, it makes them feel love, being loved or the want to love. To me, that's more important than a technically perfect voice; that doesn't change just because Ayu is in a different genre. |
wow, long psots, but I read them all...
about haters and all that... I also have things that I don't like, even if they aren't a lot. I don't like went people say sth bad just saying: this is the worst "......". PLAF. No, this is FOR you your least favourite of whatever. Reading things liek that, makes peopel that like it feel like we are idiot for liking it, or that we doesn't have idea of what is good and what is bad or sth like this. But as I also have things I don't like from AYu, I respect people who doesn't liek sth (though sometime there're users that don't like anythign, and then I wonder if they really like the Ayu we have now) And also think what TH said, about the fact that 4-5 years after a release people like it more than before... I think it happened with Guilty... I remember that there was a lot of dislike for it, and almost in every letter for ayu for the AWIO book I saw Guilty as a favourite album XD (and I'm glad cause it's one of my fav XD) NEXT LEVEL was really good for me at first, then feeeeelllll down a LOT, but today I was listening to it and I found myself enjoying the album a LOT! NL, sparkle, identity, rule, curtain call... I love them really ^^ I think after some time for one reason or another people will find NL as a great album (because they really love it, or because there are people who always find the last release as the worst of her career so the previous one automatically are upgraded XD) oh lol, long post by me tooo ^^ |
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I think that the time in peoples lives also helps whether or not they'll accept certain music right away. At a time where I was miserable I wouldn't be listening to a song like Sparkle, but that's just me. Maybe I wasn't at a time where I could listen to certain songs on NL. Different people then accept different types of songs at different times. GUILTY is considered a darker album to something like NL, thus people who are at their happiest don't tend to love GUILTY at that moment, possibly. As for the haters; there are some that hang out here so often, and yet they have complaints about just about everything; it makes me wonder why they're here, or if they like Ayu right now or not. Difference of opinions is fine, but if all that can be said is negative then why stick around? Such opposite opinions of 'I absolutely hate it; it's the worst' and all that makes me appreciate polls because it's just a number I can ignore. |
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P.S. These last few post have been wayyyy to long for me too read :laugh |
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A nail! It was hit on the head. DIRECTLY.
-clang!- It's a bit strange that posts that are only a few paragraphs long are "too long to read"... I mean, what happens when you have to read a novel/book then? -shivers- I guess that's kind of why I ended up making this for someone, but I don't think I'll ever use it, haha. http://i48.tinypic.com/1zwz2m8.jpg Quote:
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Hm, random think to be "on topic" about, but I just realized a while back how easily "Rock'n'Roll Circus" could be switched around letter-wise to be read as "Rick'n'Roll Circus"...
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^ thanks for just ruining the entire album for me
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Thanks, I'll be here all week. Try the veal, haha.
I'm on this Ayu listening marathon until the album comes out... I should watch the CMs for the songs we know of so far on the PS3 [HD .ts files!] too... |
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saved :D lol
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The prize campaign is also on neowing (CDJapan) just that neowing announced it and it's not on CDJapan yet (but it's the same thing anyway)
They have 150 prizes! You might win 1 if you pre-order Rock'n'Roll Circus or/and ARENA TOUR 2009 ~NEXT LEVEL~ A or/and the Limited Boxset (even though they wrote that they apologize in advance since it already sold out lol). http://www.neowing.co.jp/rcms/jpop/h...ign201004.html The deadline for the prize campaign is 7th April so you have to pre-order until then if you want to enter the lottery. If there are additional things on the page someone wants to translate you're welcome! I wrote just the things I understood from my Japanese. ^^ |
so,this is the lottery thingy hmv had also?150 prizes only?
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Yes.
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I pre-ordered first day, so now it's up to luck :D Though when the pre-order for a single of a jrock band I want to order I may consider getting the CD Only version also, just to have them shipped at the same time.
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I'm hoping and praying for a MY STORY-esque 17 tracks for this album; however, if there were any CREA compositions, I could definitely settle for only 14. haha...I know it's unlikely but that's my wish
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Some CREA tracks would definitely be interesting; considering I've loved most if not all her compositions, I'd love it if this album had some.
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Does it work like that too for preorder? LOL If they save me a copy since I did checked-out I'm so gonna send them IPMO now. And if you're going to ask why I'm using IPMO simply because I can't access my cards >.> My parents took them. |
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I never knew so many members did this "Ayu marathon" thing.
Recently I've begun listening to her more, especially evolution from A BEST 2. Gosh, it's such a good song - I never fully appreciated the whole structure or genious of it. In my Bose headphones you can really pick out each instrument and really deconstruct the song (along with other songs). |
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I've been doing an Ayu marathon for like four-five weeks now, an album a week driving to and from school. out of the ones I own, I have Secret and then A BEST and the A BEST 2 duo. I should have enough to last me till the album since I don't have school next week :D
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I was blasting Sparkle rollin' up in my neighborhood scaring all the old ladies.
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"Sekai ga mawaruuuu" ~Sparkle rollin'~ I swear, Microphone is gonna get blared... it sounds like such a BAMFing song... |
^ lol, I'm ready to blast Don't look back. Such a driving music, makes me want to drive fast on the expressway
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Lol the long posts ended so abruptly, I was enjoying them already.
I've been on an Ayu concert marathon. One disc per night, at least. I've already watched CDL06-07 and AT07. Took me four nights XD |
Im watching 2 concerts per week xD and started adding more ayu song to my daily playlists XD warming up to the release of her new album and concert!! XD
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Yeah, I've watched like 4 concerts in the last two weeks and listened to all of the albums basically, even ASFXX! I'm aching.
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Woah I'm so Happy :D They did processed and save a copy for me.
NOW I NEED THE MONEY! I still need like 70 bucks and I don't know how I can get that. I used up all my allowances and my parents are not here. |
^^the posts were so long, by first glance, i thought there was an argument going on. xD
i read all of them though, and i was surprised to see friendly discussion within the long posts. i wish i was around while you guys were discussing though. >_< |
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^ lol yeah, or sometimes it may also end up in the trash can section of the forums.
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A new album ^O^ Time to get excited lol :luv2 And the lottery prizes. Given my history I win one - I lose one - I win one - I lose one - LOL so if this is true then I should win this time around :yes
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@entire thread: tl;dr
anyways. i realized, that this is cd/4dvd. it crossed my mind, what if it was dvd/4cd. that would be crazy wouldn't it? XD |
^that'd be awesome!
but i think we'd get something like Christina Aguilera's Back To Basics. imo, it was 2 CD's of fillers. well not all of it, but a good half of it. |
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Honestly I think I rotate ayu REALLLLY heavily on my iPod...so nothing really is different for me...haha |
I listen to Ayu all the time but I'm doing the "marathon thing" too now. Been watching a concert a night for the last few nights, and have listened through I am..., Duty, and MY STORY. Gonna watch the 30th Single Collection A Museum DVD tonight. :D
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Iīm amazed with 17 clips in the DVD... Canīt wait to see them!!
I need to have a look at the covers RIGHT NOW!!! |
I'm doing a Ayu Music Marathon!!!
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me too
have thousand listens for her in the last 7 days war a week now in last.fm... currently doing the live and remix stuff^^ |
OMG the album will have the AT09 DVD included?!
That would save me loads of money! ^^~ Woot!!! Unless, well of course it's obscenely priced. Especially when this is an ayu release, avex will love to milk our wallets. Either way, gotta starve for a few days- wait, make that a few weeks. Haha. I've always done an ayu marathon, since she's about the only person I listen to. :luv2:innocent |
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avex just loves packaging things, don't they?
new albums+best albums - check new albums+arena tours - uncharted territory! Lol. |
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Damn, talk about milking the fans! |
yeah...
This time it's not like the USB... imo, they are not making a lot of money from the BOX itself cause who can't get the box and want both things can buy them individualy... it's only 1800Y that they loose from people that can't get the BOX... this is more like a special package because the release day is the same, or an oportunity to have sth special, than an avex way to get more money... The USB was diferent... the album and DVD tracks (without making) were inside an USB, the digital tracks costs anything like the phisical CD price, so from that price (of the digital songs and PV) to 6800Y it's all because of the USB, so they got a lot of money from this... for this reason, I don't see them making more boxes available as they did for the USB... don't know -____- |
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Here is a new information got from avex.
CD ONLY First press includes something special too.But it is not a full colour photobook shot in London. |
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^ seriously? damn it!! I mean... now I MUST buy it for sure XD |
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@entire thread: tl;dr
anyways. i realized, that this is cd/4dvd. it crossed my mind, what if it was dvd/4cd. that would be crazy wouldn't it? XD It did...A COMPLETE album? but it just 3cd/Dvd..hehehe:innocent |
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~YAY for my first CD bought through TA *-*~ Do TA/mu-mo give the lotery gifts too??? |
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and I will update if I get other info. and Taiwan importing JP 1st press has started. http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=726951972 SPECIAL LIMITED BOX SET has stopped pre-order now. |
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I actually don't recall them ever doing the lotteries, and I figured it was because they already have their own special guaranteed bonuses for TeamAyu/mu-mo buyers.
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i'm still thinking if i should get JP press or wit for TW press.the 1st press item for CD only haven't confirm yet.i don't know if i should pre-order now or not T_T
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You can preorder TW imported JP press.Not TW press
The price is cool But it will end on 12th(with this price) |
what is the differences between JP press and TW imported JP press?
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2.the date they ship them to TW is in late April(later than TW press and JP press) 3.the price is lower than JP press |
I know everyone's saying CDJapan does the lottery, but how do you guys know that?
I'm about to order them and it would be a shame if CDJ didn't do the lottery after all! |
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http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/rcms/jpop/2..._campaign.html |
I was on CDJ and also didnīt see it (because I looked on the left were it showed NL Draw last year) so donīt blame him.
Itīs really sad to see the 60+ boxes on yahoo.... so many ppl buy them just to make profit while true fans didnīt get the chance to get one >< |
NEXT LEVEL's release pattern:
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I don't want to wait another 2 weeks @_@
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Two weeks ? :thud
I wanna die... x_x |
2 weeks... afkjfbsjkgd *agony*
I want the tracklist U___U |
Yeah we should get one of the covers/all of them and the tracklist on the 23rd or 24th. >_> Two weeks to wait...
EDIT There you go http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/rcms/jpop/2..._campaign.html The Lucky Draw's on CDJapan. ^^ |
two weeks!??? It's too much >_<
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So thanks :) *ordering* |
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