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ayumisrael 19th September 2007 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by m-ayu (Post 1201881)
that's why i didn't compare her with koda, sure it's decreasing, but i was just saying about not all artist has low sales (hence the example), so there are some ppl who actually still buy CDs.

and no i'm not a person who would jump on conclusion, ayu has low sales = she's sucks whatsoever!!1one!1
i'm still support her no matter what. been too long being her fan...
Of course not everyone's sales are low, but usually the high sellers are boy bands or artists with really good tie-ins singles or of course cute cute poppy songs and catchy pop songs xD.
(I wasn't really mad lol XDD)

The only thing that made me feel horrible about it today were the lifeless people on amazon that really wanted to show how they hate ayu reviewing the single ^_^.
They don't have to like anything about ayu of course, but if they don't they should just ignore her and not go mental over her. xD seriously.

cloud♥honey 19th September 2007 04:22 PM
I agree with you ayumisrael. She's not a dancer, SHE'S THE MOST COMPLETE JAPANESE SINGER.

The people are wanting to place the guilt in the dance of the PV. What it is happening? But that it drugs.

Everybody always wants to blame Ayu for the PV or music. It is not well thus. The Japanese sales are really low lately and seem that it does not have as to revert this state.

“Boybands” are making with that the artists are with the low sales and this is fact!

tourniquet 19th September 2007 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1201899)
and what's wrong with that? She is a SINGER after all not a dancer.
If I would want to see dancers perfromances I wouldn't look at a singer dances (not even Namie's because I like her because she's a singer I don't really mind her dancings anyway).
And ayu won't reach her abilites because she doesn't plan to dance and she wants to be more of a singer.
The dancing for that PV was an artistic thing, to show rage, it really fitted the song, I really don't think she wanted to say "look I'm cool, I'm dancing."
ayu was never the dancer type and I really hope she'll never will because she's perfect the way she is xD.
And no in most of her PVs she's not cute, she has a REAL story around them, that makes the PV interesting, without dancing all the time.
If you don't like those types of PVs then that's your option ^_^. I don't think ayu should be critisized because she doesn't dance, or just danced artistically in 3 of her PVs in her entire career to do something different.

I think that person was just being bully and don't even care with anything ayu ever did. I doubt he even like anything about her, that's why I was annoyed about what he wrote.
you can hopefully evaluate her singing abilities realistically. @__@ I don't mind a bit dancing in the PV to give the song some extra vibe.

after the momentum PV I would have liked to shoot her. :yes it's just not my taste, but I accept your opinion, anyway. :0

*cough* however, she's been lazy */cough*


uhh, I haven't written anything to the sales yet, eh? well, they're a tad bit disappointing .___. I expect something around koda's sales for ai no uta. her second week drop will be horrendous as always.

ayumisrael 19th September 2007 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cloud_Honey (Post 1201913)
I agree with you ayumisrael. She's not a dancer, SHE'S THE MOST COMPLETE JAPANESE SINGER.

The people are wanting to place the guilt in the dance of the PV. What it is happening? But that it drugs.

Everybody always wants to blame Ayu for the PV or music. It is not well thus. The Japanese sales are really low lately and seem that it does not have as to revert this state.

“Boybands” are making with that the artists are with the low sales and this is fact!
Yeah, there always to be something like "the song sucked, the PV sucked, ayu was wrong" and stuff, but there's not way it's actually a general decrease, it's always "ayu" who sucked...
not.

Suddenly when ayu really really has a good single that even on AHS (here) most of the people liked, the sales are low and suddenly blames go on the single after all the good stuff that been said about it XD that's funny.

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Originally Posted by tourniquet (Post 1201917)
you can hopefully evaluate her singing abilities realistically. @__@ I don't mind a bit dancing in the PV to give the song some extra vibe.

after the momentum PV I would have liked to shoot her. :yes it's just not my taste, but I accept your opinion, anyway. :0

*cough* however, she's been lazy */cough*


uhh, I haven't written anything to the sales yet, eh? well, they're a tad bit disappointing .___. I expect something around koda's sales for ai no uta. her second week drop will be horrendous as always.
Thanks, I know how you feel too xD
For some people story lines PVs can be really boring and for some dance PVs.

I actually like both and when I see a good PV I just like it (no matter what was its type).
maybe ayu could've danced more, but even if ayu would dance like namie (not saying she is or ever will, just for the case) he would say exactly the same thing... why? 'cause he still hates ayu. People who hate ayu will always find something bad to say or how to critisize her.

AyuGAME 19th September 2007 04:35 PM
i think DBSK is really a big threat for ayu this week...hopefully she can maintain her position. sigh...its really frustating when we can't do anything, we can just depend on ayu fans at japan to make her get number one position

cloud♥honey 19th September 2007 04:35 PM
Yes. It's like vogue. When the vogue is down the people hate that a lot. I hate false Ayu fans. I'm with Ayu until the ending!

namiie 19th September 2007 04:37 PM
It's not looking good so far...Ayu doesn't really have a strong lead; the #2 single sold 11471 units. Also, Amazon Japan users are giving the t2m single a 3.5 stars/5 rating only :no

Luv ~Venus~ 19th September 2007 04:37 PM
Seems like she's goin' continue her #1 streak and it's seems like she's going to sell 100k in her 1st week. Woot! Go Ayu!

tourniquet 19th September 2007 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cloud_Honey (Post 1201928)
Yes. It's like vogue. When the vogue is down the people hate that a lot. I hate false Ayu fans. I'm with Ayu until the ending!
if we all had to stay with artists until their end, they could happily produce crap music into all eternity. fandom is exchangable, your taste changes and so on. I don't think it's right to hate people who have just changed their taste and now say something negative about her. @_@" but surely there are also some people who just hate on principle, lol. that's so absolutely lol, that it's almost forgivable.

cloud♥honey 19th September 2007 04:44 PM
Ayu never disappoints me with songs. Absolutely NEVER. She really won't make me feel sad. When I listened to decision, I found that he would go to be horrible, preview I seemed rotten. But I deceived myself completely as always. Ayu disappoints never me with songs. Not EXACTLY!

ayumisrael 19th September 2007 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 1201927)
i think DBSK is really a big threat for ayu this week...hopefully she can maintain her position. sigh...its really frustating when we can't do anything, we can just depend on ayu fans at japan to make her get number one position
Well they're from avex too and since ayu is on avex as well I think they planned more that ayu will get the #1 spot this week or elseway they would just release it on another date... I don't think they wanted to break her #1 streak xD

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Originally Posted by tourniquet (Post 1201934)
if we all had to stay with artists until their end, they could happily produce crap music into all eternity. fandom is exchangable, your taste changes and so on. I don't think it's right to hate people who have just changed their taste and now say something negative about her. @_@" but surely there are also some people who just hate on principle, lol. that's so absolutely lol, that it's almost forgivable.
I think that those people that hate on principle or just don't like ayu anymore should avoid saying anything about her and just ignore her instead of wasting their time saying negative things about her xD They definitly can do better things like saying positive things about artists they do like.

criminal 19th September 2007 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1201827)
They even don't like ayu so how come they even write a review about one of her singles?
Well, just because you don't like an artist doesn't mean you can't be objective when writing a review, though.

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1201846)
Sales are low because people get tired of ayu is the same as my name is Bloody Mora. As I see it generally sales are decreasing a lot. Not just for ayu.
You can't blame the worse first day sales of talkin' 2 myself on the fact that people don't buy CDs that much. Face it, if you've been supporting an artist from the start of the decade, a lot of people are bound to get bored of them. PLUS the few casual fans that Ayumi has might prefer a poppy sound over a rocky sound.

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1201895)
CLAP & LOVE/Why has now sold ~42k. (The +DVD version helped boost the sales)
Anything under 150k for that is a disgrace. D:

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Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 1201927)
i think DBSK is really a big threat for ayu this week...hopefully she can maintain her position. sigh...its really frustating when we can't do anything, we can just depend on ayu fans at japan to make her get number one position
avex trax care about Ayumi's streak. If they had thought that DBSK can sell more copies than Ayumi, they wouldn't have let DBSK release on the same day as Ayumi.

ayumisrael 19th September 2007 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by criminal (Post 1201945)
Well, just because you don't like an artist doesn't mean you can't be objective when writing a review, though.
So if I hate an artist and will obviously write negative things about him will my review be objective? I don't think so...

I for one even don't do this because I think it's cruel and really subjective, because things I will write about him won't be true, they'll just be because of the very fact I don't like him/hate him...

tourniquet 19th September 2007 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1201953)
So if I hate an artist and will obviously write negative things about him will my review be objective? I don't think so...
obviously, you can't differentiate between blind hate and dislike. @_@" objective opinions are, by the way, merely a fairytale. we're all bound to be subjective. if people don't like something, why should they shut up?

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Originally Posted by criminal
Anything under 150k for that is a disgrace. D:
so true. ^___^

ayumisrael 19th September 2007 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tourniquet (Post 1201958)
obviously, you can't differentiate between blind hate and dislike. @_@" objective opinions are, by the way, merely a fairytale. we're all bound to be subjective. if people don't like something, why should they shut up?
Because they wouldn't feel the same if people would do the same to them, and believe me they would care afterwards.
Plus they can do a variety of other things, showing hate for someone is just a waste of time, it won't progress one anywere. It's just being mean. so you actually ask "if people want to be mean why should they shut up?" if you'll think about it it's exactly the same.

tourniquet 19th September 2007 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by me
obviously, you can't differentiate between blind hate and dislike. @_@"
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Originally Posted by ayumisrael
Plus they can do a variety of other things, showing hate for someone is just a waste of time, it won't progress one anywere.
criticism |= hate

Luv ~Venus~ 19th September 2007 05:05 PM
Umm..guys shouldn't week be...you know....celebrating Ayu's daily no.1 instead...well....agruing with each other?! ^_^; We've all that time when we disliked an artist, we say mean things about them. So if u look at, we are all fakers and mean! So what's the agruing for!

GeneticNova 19th September 2007 05:10 PM
Awesome first day and it is 26 K
t2m is a hit!!! i personally feel it is better than glitter/fated...
Hope it reaches the sales greater than the 41st single:innocent

criminal 19th September 2007 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1201953)
So if I hate an artist and will obviously write negative things about him will my review be objective? I don't think so...
No, the whole point is that you don't have to write negative things if you hate an artist. You can suck your e-pride up and say stuff like "Even though I don't generally like ____, I am quite fond of this song."

Raleigh 19th September 2007 05:16 PM
Wow some of you people need to get out. Seriously if this single doesn't sell well it doesn't mean her music is crap. It just means Japan has really bad taste. I mean this single is really good and if Japan can't see that, maybe they just want to stick with some random rubbish with no talent. At least she's still getting #1.

Maybe it's the fact that there was only one performance yet. Maybe more performances will change this single's sales.


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