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The hell is going on.. I don't know but a lot of Toho/JYJ fans are enraged at Avex. Read some canceled their preorders of crossroad. :/
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^haah?? seriously???
^^did he really use the word abandoned ._____. tbh i dont really know what to say about all of this cuz i dont even get what is really goin on here =/ |
I don't know =/ I think we better wait for another translation, because some people say the translation is a bit off.
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From person who translated this: "Lol funny hw pple think i mistranslated. Between abandoned / rejected / dumped, please tell me which i should have chosen" :(
I'll just quote myself from Omona. I sometimes wish I haven't known them and have never got into them... I wouldn't experienced that whole drama so emotionally. It overwhelms me. |
^I HAD A FEELING YOU WERE GARDENINTHEAIR!!!!! boa+yunho = that must be taly :laugh
no way! im supersupersuperrr happy i got into dbsk!! ofcourse this **** that theyre in now stinks.. but they made me such a happy fangirl ;____; i love them lots and lots and lots |
^ lol you don't have to scream it all over *still tries to hide*
Oh, not to be misunderstood... I'm happy too... I love them so much... But that love hurts so much too |
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"I think there is a little mistranslation. On the original japanese tweet Chiba-san said " we was no match with the people they choose, and we were turned down by them, whom we love." So it's make a little difference. But it's not help to understand what's going on with them. at least for me. " I don't know what to believe, I just hope someone translates it again and hopefully it'll become clear then. I love DBSK. Yes, this whole situation hurts, but I love them too much to just give up on them. They are 5 wonderful people that I love. They are 5 brothers that belong together. |
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i couldn't agree more:yes it's like.. dbsk is a part of my life:yes i just can't give up! |
taly: lol whyyy? XD
ah yeah i can understand that :yes but these months im trying to ignore that and just move on.. though yeah its kinda impossible when new drama pops up everytime =_____= |
^ because I don't want to show my ID, ID, ID to everyone keke (:laugh)
Maybe I have a bit different feelings from all of you because I've got into them for real last summer and at the end of 2009 (yep, there was a little break)... Earlier it was just spazzing over Changmin and kind of ignoring others lol. I wish I knew them sooner. Way sooner... Now every live performance, variety show, interview, making etc. from ~old good days~ I watch makes me thinking that I'll probably not able to see them again like that, together... It saddens me and scares so much that I haven't watched many of them to now. At least their music saves me. Wow, I wouldn't expect I'll confess such things here, lol. |
I asked Jeeelim5 on twitter to give a look at Chiba's tweets if she has time :) She's a good translator (on tohosomnia and onetvxq). But I think she is asleep now.
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^^im kinda the same D: i knew them aloooong time ago but didnt pay attention, but when a radio rip of doushite came out... it was seriously the only thing i listened to!! and it was such bad quality :laugh i also didnt really follow the news when they had their mirotic comeback cuz i didnt know all that stuff, like music bank i didnt know either :weep eventhough i listened to kpop aloooong time ago! heck, i even was there when soshi and wonder girls debuted :laugh *feels cool but also not cuz she is stoopid to not follow the news*
it was till late 2008 early 2009 that i knew that they are the boyband of my life *_______________* ^hope her translation will say something different :nervous |
i really hope new translations will make it a little more clear and hopefully :(
i think we should really try to cheer up this thread a little:yes i just found an amazing pic XD under spoilers, of course ~ Spoiler:
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jj would be a wonderful woman @_@ |
^gah ikr ._____. he seriously looks like those really popular and expensive dolls (i forgot the name..)
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^yes yes!! but.. i'm afraid of those dolls
seriosuly, i have panic :laugh if i see one, i better run run run ~ :laugh XD they're so fugly and look liek they want to eat your heart :laugh but this isn't much better :roflmao http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2...1114595093.jpg |
Those pics... :roflmao
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^^OMG THAT USED TO BE MY LAST FM PIC FOR SOOO LONG :roflmao
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^then i would be scared to be ur friend there:laugh XD
FINALLY! 320KB ost of yoochun drama http://community.livejournal.com/bestfiction/ :heart i love cloud:luv2 that means all the songs of the boys in hq!! |
Would one of you guys just upload Joongie's song for me? I don't feel like downloading the whole thing just for that.
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^ cloud<3honey has uploaded individual tracks~ just click on the MF link :yes
dunno why JJs' song is called Waiting for you to tell me goodbye though, shouldn't it be To you it's separation, to me it's waiting or something? lol |
Oh yay, thanks :)
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this is ... :( dunno what to think |
Okay...WHAT THE!? What's going on now!? I'm not sure about this, but could there be a possibility that it could be the end of the Tohoshinki era?
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It seems that Tohoshinki's reputation is growing rotten, unfortunately... All those scandals in the past - the MIROTIC album controversy back two years ago, then the contract issues last year, and all of a sudden...
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i don't remember a mirotic controversy, what exactly are you referring to?
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This is a much bigger controversy than anything else that has happened, excluding the lawsuit against SM. |
^ The Mirotic controversy was that the song had explicit sexual lyrics are something, so the music programs refused to let them perform or play the song before some certain time. And that only people over 19 could buy the album. That's why they had to make a clean version with the lyrics "I choose you" and "under my sky" instead.
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They ban Hyori's music videos for not wearing a seat belt, so an adult rating/something like that isn't as much of a "career killer" as this current scandal + the SM scandal is. (and tbh I don't even think these scandals will hurt the boys, they are still insanely popular despite of it) |
i don't really consider that a controversy, the ban got attention for being ridiculous. and it's pretty common for songs/videos/etc. to get banned in kpop.
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Don't know why the Korean music industry seems to be "dirty" compared to the Japanese music industry...
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Avex has been releasing so many super expensive stuff of both Tohoshinki (History In Japan Special DVD) and JYJ (3HREE VOICES DVD), so they are only after the money too. |
okay.. this has gone crazy now
i just want to sit in a corner & cry :( at this rate, i think i prefer SM over avex :o |
I still think Avex is a lot better than SM. I mean look what they did for Suzuki Ami after she was blacklisted in the Japanese music industry, and they still keep their artists who sell really poorly.
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LOL :laugh I think I hate both SME and avex now, but SME more than avex. EDIT: A fan asked something about blossom PV at twitter and Ayu replied: http://www.dbsknights.net/2010/09/tr...er-update.html |
Hmm okay, I know i might sound rude, but PLEASE if ppl just come in here to say BAD things about the boys, PLEASE GET OUT!
it's a thread for ONLY TOHOSHINKI! if you don't like them, just GET OUT! why have to say anything bad in here? u do have a life don't u? goshhH!! frustated over HATERS! whyy oh whyy! if Tohoshinki ends, so WHAT? if Tohoshinki not exists anymore, so WHAT? we all should have move on too! WHAT IF AYU also ENDS? someday it may happen! WHAT IF SOMEDAY WE'RE ALL ENDED? SO WHAT? GAHHHHHH~~ i'm so sorry for being harsh and everything.. gosh it's just getting on my nerves with ppl who seem to like the end of Tohoshinki or whatever... just put yourself in our shoes! how are u gonna feel? geeeeeeeeeeeeeee! and for the fans..please... stay calm... and wait what will come next first.. I know I'm sad too..but nothing we can do but WAIT.. that's what my friend told me to do.. this whole thing is just like a media war... statements war.. |
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At least the biggest hater hasn't come in this thread I just think the person here doesn't know whether he is a fan or not ;) |
^ yea Liz, make me pissed off!
how could he say he not hating or disliking the boys whereas he seemed happy to talk bad thing about the boys? not necessarily bad, but something like maybe laughing at the boys...? and he thought that I would re-act and mad? well yea I am but I just said I laughed at them LOL~~ and I moved on.. I would just stay on topic to talk about Ayu~ anyway, dear... I know that you're kinda mad at avex.. and they released the statement before Ayu's single..but I don't think it'll affect on Ayu... i mean yea we might probably lose some sales from JJ's fangirls, fangirls would stop buying her single bcoz they want to boycott avex products.. but to think about it, even if JJ's fans not buying her single, that won't change anything at all, it's just about JJ on blossom PV to make the sales boosted up.. that's all.. but without JJ's help, I still think Ayu can do it.. she will still be able to be no. 1 even with just the usual sales~ so we can all just calm down over this news, and wait a little longer for further news.. yea the guy in here just so weird.. haishh~~~ |
i read those comments too:o
i wanted to say something but it's not worth it:yes not gonna spend my energies in someone who doesn't deserve them and maybe it's not the best moment, but new magazine scans of changming http://community.livejournal.com/omo...t/4528256.html i really like the closeup shot |
^aww he looks so cutie!
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^ So... they have been under avex earlier?
I can't think properly about everything what happend today... |
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Yeah, who do you think manages their photoshoots in Japan? It's avex. |
this is getting weirder & weirder
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I think the best way to solve this is for the members of Cassiopeia to amass an army and kidnap the members of THSK. Then, if they each use a bit of their savings, they'll have enough to erect a separate, HONORABLE company to manage them.
Considering the amount of TVXQ in the world... imagine how scary that army'd be XD |
#BeStrongTVXQ has been a worldwide trending topic on twitter for 3 hours or more now :heart This fandom is amazing :luv2
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A lot of people around here are saying rude things about JYJ/TVXQ in general and I wish I could just make these immature people shut up. They did nothing wrong, they are the victims here :( This forum makes me sick sometimes tbh.
Be strong TVXQ indeed, can't wait til I can see all five boys on stage again and at Yunjae's wedding :scry |
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Translation credits: ssunsett@tohosomnia.net Shared by: tohosomnia.net -- Um, if you remember, Matsuura-san, back in 2001, your biggest artist at the time DID want to leave. Why? Because you FORCED her to release her best album too. But she didn't leave, because she knew if she did, she wouldn't be able to come back to you. And those were her words. (I think we all know who I'm talking about.) So yeah, there's probably artists who want to, they're just afraid to speak up. Maybe our boys will set a precedent. Also, I think this is a time where a series of 140-character messages just doesn't do. It leaves room for things to be misinterpreted (see Chiba-san's Tweets from yesterday), and above all, looks yet again, really unprofessional. |
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I've never liked Matsuura. No matter how much his advices and movements were sensible, he couldn't put it in a non-rude, smart way. Like that tweet about Changmin.
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Something fishy here:
Shigeo-san (Toho staff?) tweeted this yesterday: "Earlier, I tried sending a mail to Jejung, “Are you okay? See you soon~”, and then a reply came! “I want to meet everyone.” How these words are filled with emotion!! As expected, I will believe, and wait. These feelings didn’t change, and will not change. Every one, thank you!" (http://www.dbsknights.net/2010/09/tr...te-shigeo.html) Today he posted this before removing his twitter account: "Ah!! I should delete my ID!" :no Why did he have to delete his account? Forced by avex, because he said he supports JYJ? :( I started following him, because he updated about JYJ during a-nation =/ |
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the circumstances with this and ayu/koda are totally different so i dont get why people are comparing them.
avex being unhappy that TVXQ is connected to the mafia is totally different from them telling someone they need to lose some weight or having them put out a compilation album, because the industry especially the Pop market that Koda and Ayu are in is all about good looks and also making money. having ties with people that are violent murderers is a whole different story. |
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oh i wasnt targeting that at you specifically but some other people seem to be using that excuse all over the world wide web :no
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^lol when that dood pushed him :laugh gahhhh he is such a gorgeous gorgeous man *______*
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She might be gaining some Toho fans hearts back by saying AKTF :laugh :luv2
I wonder whether she knew the expression already or learned it through Toho fans :laugh |
^ Yess I'm very surprised about that too!! totally.. made my DAY! ahaha..
anyway, hmmm i've been reading the past 2 pages..it seems ppl here put max matsuura at fault.. hmmmm... as for me, personally, I really donno what to say who's wrong and who's not.. and it's so complicated.. all this long, we only know that it's all coming from the media..and I don't even know whom i have to believe right now.. the boys or avex or SME.. i wanna say what i know, but i think it's better to leave it at that.. i think we should just stop to blame on max matsuura... not that i defend him.. but that doesn't really necessary.. :) |
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[TRANS] 100918 Inoue Kozo’s Twitter Update
The Korean management company for the 3 members of Tohoshinki announced unbelievable comments. I believe they are even faking the members’ comments. They are just inflaming the Japanese fans. Please do not play around with the members anymore!September 17th 8:22pm I am not trying to gain the fans’ favors. I am just twitting my feelings and the results of my researches. I do not need to gain favors in the first place. RT @(fan) please do not try to gain the fans’ favors. Do you hold any special feelings to Tohoshinki? RT @inouekozodesu .. September 17th 9:21pm What I want to say is that please do not be swayed by the comments which we do not know whether the members really said or not. The most troubled with the current situation should be the 3 members’ Korean management company. If this company exists, it is impossible for the 5 members to resume their activities. Let’s stop the sterile discussions Approx 24 hours ago @(fan) I fully understand what you want to say. But I am confident that those comments were not made by the 3 members themselves. Please understand why I cannot unveil the reason here. Approx 22 hours ago SOURCE: http://www.dbsknights.net/2010/09/tr...medium=twitter |
Can every CEO/CSO/journalist/manager shut the **** up? I don't need their sick theories and "I know something you don't know" games.
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I was watching Thanksgiving Live Backstage movie and saw Chunnie's chest tattoo and remembered that Jaejoong has the same tattoo (http://moonlightunes.wordpress.com/2...s-new-tattoos/). Maybe Jaejoong showed of his tattoo, since Ayu seems to like them :laugh Maybe that's how she knows about "Always keep the faith" :laugh I want blossom making of so bad :weep
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@LizBrazil, another tattoo 'Always Keep the Faith'?
how cool would that be if Jae gets 10th anniversary tattoo same as Ayu...:P |
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LOL, he has so many tattoos already :laugh At his upper back, lower back and chest :laugh |
Ayu saying "Always keep the faith" gives me hope. :heart
and ugh reading more of those "upper" people twitting/writing about stuff makes me wanna puke.. gonna avoid the drama for now.. |
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