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ayumisrael 11th October 2011 12:23 PM

6th week
Position : #27
Official Sales : 3,959
Official Total Sales : 200,211

ayu did it!!!

7th Week

1st Day
Position: #19

ayu's 2011 total singles/albums/dvds sales: 703,122

C+R+E+AYUMI 11th October 2011 12:32 PM

oh yes baby! Great great great!

Maemi 11th October 2011 12:46 PM

It passed 200k? YAY! :D

chu-lips 11th October 2011 12:46 PM

yay...
finally 200k.....

TITANIC 11th October 2011 01:25 PM

hurraaay. 200K. it has really big chance to outsell Kuu's deja vu.

RealLight 11th October 2011 01:53 PM

God, finally ! Now let's see how far it can go by now..

inspire_rmx 11th October 2011 01:54 PM

YAY!!! Finally =) hope the sales will steads ard 2000copies for a few more weeks

YUKARI 11th October 2011 02:11 PM

yaaaay! as I thought it's already 200k!! :woohoo

AyumiAi 11th October 2011 02:20 PM

Woooot wooooot!!! Goooooooo ayu!! :) 200k!!!! Keep it up ayu!

L.... 11th October 2011 02:38 PM

200k (: ~ GO FIVE~~

LONJJONG 11th October 2011 03:15 PM

finallyyyy!!!!!!!! :D
I think it will sell close to 210 k :D

FIVE BANZAI!

Kazeyomi 11th October 2011 03:40 PM

yaaay 200k mark reached!
Congratz Ayu :heart

brener 11th October 2011 04:19 PM

AWESOME!!! im so happy!!!

lets hope the blu ray release will boost the sales =D

AyUmIXx 11th October 2011 04:28 PM

yesssss FIVE is awesome...
finally it has passed 200K!!

sanzo2011 11th October 2011 04:31 PM

So happy now! the album crossed 200k and her total sales also reached 700k! next target is 210k!^^!

Chibi-Chan 11th October 2011 04:39 PM

YAY! o(^.^)o

ayuspain 11th October 2011 04:54 PM

So happy for her!!!!! :luv2

rusuke 11th October 2011 05:17 PM

Oh so amazing!

I hope I have some money to get a copy to support the ranking. :(

njanjayrp 11th October 2011 06:36 PM

w00t! I'm happy it made it!!

~*Mabushii*~ 11th October 2011 06:45 PM

YAY!! Congrats Ayu!!

isthisLOL? 11th October 2011 10:07 PM

5th and 6th week were both better than Love Songs(By 1k and 0,1k copies)
As predicted, it keeps selling better than Love Songs did since week 4. :innocent

njanjayrp 11th October 2011 10:14 PM

after it's 6th week Love songs went on to sell another 10k. I wonder if FIVE will manage to do the same.

AyumiAi 11th October 2011 11:01 PM

I wonder if had this been a full album would it have sold more than Love Songs, or is one of the main reasons this is selling so well is because it is a mini album hm.... questions questions XP

TITANIC 11th October 2011 11:54 PM

^ i am pretty sure the main reason is Progress

AyumiAi 12th October 2011 12:05 AM

^ yea of course, but i wonder if it was a full album WITH progress would it have been even more successful or if the reason it's doing so well is because it's a mini (cheaper) with progress

butterfly_ayu 12th October 2011 12:46 AM

wow!!! yay!!! it passed 200K!!!! *.*

TITANIC 12th October 2011 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2767264)
^ yea of course, but i wonder if it was a full album WITH progress would it have been even more successful or if the reason it's doing so well is because it's a mini (cheaper) with progress

full album always sell better than mini-album so yeah if it was full album, it would definitely sell better than FIVE

AyumiAi 12th October 2011 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TITANIC (Post 2767282)
full album always sell better than mini-album so yeah if it was full album, it would definitely sell better than FIVE

but i wonder if the reason it sold so much is because it was cheaper? :S i unno allowed the casual fan to buy it (or the tales of xillia fans) otherwise its another 20$ or so more im not sure they would have bough it... WTV doesnt really matter :P just a random thought, would have been cool to see FIVE sell more than LS

stivenoto 12th October 2011 03:18 AM

Wow... Congratz Ayu......

adantatu2 12th October 2011 06:35 AM

amazing, 200k is really good for a mini-album !!!
and i hope she can sell more than kuu :x

brener 12th October 2011 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adantatu2 (Post 2767349)
amazing, 200k is really good for a mini-album !!!
and i hope she can sell more than kuu :x

i hope that her new full album will outsell FIVE and Love songs

Zeke. 12th October 2011 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brener (Post 2767373)
i hope that her new full album will outsell FIVE and Love songs

Guaranteed if she brings back CREA, works with BOUNCEBACK and also DAI + HAL.

Didz-19 12th October 2011 11:11 AM

^
^

I agreed with you Zeke. If only CREA, BOUNCEBACK, DAI and HAL make their comeback...her album would be outsold her last album...maybe~~ :)

SURREAL__RAINBOW 12th October 2011 11:20 AM

and with Timmy too, it would be orgasmic *-*

C+R+E+AYUMI 12th October 2011 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didz-19 (Post 2767418)
^
^

I agreed with you Zeke. If only CREA, BOUNCEBACK, DAI and HAL make their comeback...her album would be outsold her last album...maybe~~ :)

CREA, BOUNCEBACK, DAI ,HAL + Timmy = A BOMB

LONJJONG 12th October 2011 01:34 PM

it's out of top 30 today,
maybe due to some new releases ^^

Didz-19 12th October 2011 01:48 PM

it's okay. I'm glad that this album sold really well.~~anybody knows which artists sold their mini-album as high as Ayu? :)

YUKARI 12th October 2011 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C+R+E+AYUMI (Post 2767442)
CREA, BOUNCEBACK, DAI ,HAL + Timmy = A BOMB

yeaaaaaaaaaaah I'll die for that :thud

AyUmIXx 12th October 2011 03:16 PM

i think this album sold well also because ayu has been involving herself in "rebuilding" JAPAN again with her LOVE & HOPE campaign.. the POWER of MUSIC concert, so people might have touched by her act?

L.... 12th October 2011 04:44 PM

^plus tales of xilla~

njanjayrp 12th October 2011 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 2767391)
Guaranteed if she brings back CREA, works with BOUNCEBACK and also DAI + HAL.

Without a smash hit preceding the album or something that will suddenly re-spark the general public's interest in Ayu's music, we'll be happy if the next studio album outsells FIVE.

Maemi 12th October 2011 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2767551)
Without a smash hit preceding the album or something that will suddenly re-spark the general public's interest in Ayu's music, we'll be happy if the next studio album outsells FIVE.

:yes:yes:yes

njanjayrp 12th October 2011 08:31 PM

Though now that I see Kaela Kimura's sales and how much has Kana Nishino dropped and the fact that Dejavu will probably be outsold or if not then nearly outsold by FIVE one has to admit that Ayu's over-all staying power in the Japanese music industry is stunning and that despite of everything she is indeed a legend who has seen many other stars rise to the top and drop like a rock to the very bottom.

RayJason 12th October 2011 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 2767391)
Guaranteed if she brings back CREA, works with BOUNCEBACK and also DAI + HAL.

How I LOVE what you just said!!!

I knew that this album was going to hit the 200.000 mark! Congrats ayuuuu.

C+R+E+AYUMI 13th October 2011 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2767241)
I wonder if had this been a full album would it have sold more than Love Songs, or is one of the main reasons this is selling so well is because it is a mini album hm.... questions questions XP

imo it's because it's a mini-album and it's pretty cheaper..progress for sure attracted many new fans that usually don't support Ayu..

Honestly after the positive surprise of Love Songs I wasn't ready to appreciate a full studio album..Were you?

inspire_rmx 13th October 2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2767586)
Though now that I see Kaela Kimura's sales and how much has Kana Nishino dropped and the fact that Dejavu will probably be outsold or if not then nearly outsold by FIVE one has to admit that Ayu's over-all staying power in the Japanese music industry is stunning and that despite of everything she is indeed a legend who has seen many other stars rise to the top and drop like a rock to the very bottom.

totally agree :yes:yes:yes rise and fall of so many female singers. but ayu still managed to maintain for soooo soooo many years :love

YUKARI 13th October 2011 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2767586)
Though now that I see Kaela Kimura's sales and how much has Kana Nishino dropped and the fact that Dejavu will probably be outsold or if not then nearly outsold by FIVE one has to admit that Ayu's over-all staying power in the Japanese music industry is stunning and that despite of everything she is indeed a legend who has seen many other stars rise to the top and drop like a rock to the very bottom.

yeah, you're right :yes

AyumiAi 14th October 2011 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C+R+E+AYUMI (Post 2767697)
imo it's because it's a mini-album and it's pretty cheaper..progress for sure attracted many new fans that usually don't support Ayu..

Honestly after the positive surprise of Love Songs I wasn't ready to appreciate a full studio album..Were you?

agreed

Gkone01 14th October 2011 01:24 PM

#24 today :D

Didz-19 14th October 2011 01:25 PM

cool!!!

brener 14th October 2011 03:56 PM

great. when RIAJ will release new certifications?

~X2RADialbomber~ 15th October 2011 01:59 AM

She got #1 Monthly for September? That is amazing! Never thought I'd see her do that again.

Gkone01 15th October 2011 01:24 PM

FIVE is #30 today.

ayumisrael 15th October 2011 01:26 PM

Also yesterday Mste showed her total sales for albums and singles: 49,700,000
Which means 1 more album and 1 more single (probably) and she hits 50,000,000 :D

sanzo2011 15th October 2011 05:44 PM

Hope she'll do something to celebrate that! (though i really doubt this!^^!)

rakeru 15th October 2011 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2768423)
Also yesterday Mste showed her total sales for albums and singles: 49,700,000
Which means 1 more album and 1 more single (probably) and she hits 50,000,000 :D

:( I thought she had hit the 50 million mark already. But at least it'll happen eventually!

ayumisrael 15th October 2011 10:12 PM

She did taking DVDs into equation but in these totals achivements they count only albums & singles.

Maybe because the best dvd sellers sold 4 or 5 million of dvds in total and it's too small to insert to the achivement or maybe because it's a dvd and not CDs.

truehappiness 15th October 2011 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 2767391)
Guaranteed if she brings back CREA, works with BOUNCEBACK and also DAI + HAL.

I don't think that would do anything to sales. Do people who buy her works in Japan even care who makes the songs?

Zeke. 15th October 2011 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2768548)
I don't think that would do anything to sales. Do people who buy her works in Japan even care who makes the songs?

No they care if they sound good and these people are basically "the" sound of AYU.

truehappiness 16th October 2011 04:39 AM

I think HAL is kind of dead though at the moment which is why we have no more HAL arrangements (at least, it's just one guy now) and BOUNCEBACK is okayish, I suppose. Their work with Ayu was amazing but their work with idol soloists/groups nowadays is kind of really bland and just blah.

Just because they had previously made great tracks doesn't mean that anything they make afterward will be just as good. I'm pretty sure that people were really NOT into CREA's last solo works. I remember loving them at the time but for many people, winding road and Humming 7/4 are some of the worst CREA work ever.

Tony G 16th October 2011 04:56 AM

DAI + HAL compositions would be good for Ayu's sales, but not her music. Ayu does NOT need another generic fluff song just to sell well in Japan. I think FIVE had enough of those (beloved and to a certain extent, progress). New and interesting compositions like BRILLIANTE will win out anyday, even though they won't be songs loved by the Japanese public.

njanjayrp 16th October 2011 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 2768559)
No they care if they sound good and these people are basically "the" sound of AYU.

Good? Hmm I always tend to like the songs that the Japanese public eats up less for some reason. I preferred GREEN over Days, GAME over INSPIRE. alterna over fairyland and so on.

Zeke. 17th October 2011 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2768603)
I think HAL is kind of dead though at the moment which is why we have no more HAL arrangements (at least, it's just one guy now) and BOUNCEBACK is okayish, I suppose. Their work with Ayu was amazing but their work with idol soloists/groups nowadays is kind of really bland and just blah.

Just because they had previously made great tracks doesn't mean that anything they make afterward will be just as good. I'm pretty sure that people were really NOT into CREA's last solo works. I remember loving them at the time but for many people, winding road and Humming 7/4 are some of the worst CREA work ever.

I thought Will was quite boring to a certain degree. Not as grand as everyone made it out to be. Love winding road now, it's so nostalgic sounding and bittersweet. I have never had a problem with Humming, although I can see why to some/most it would be annoying.

I don't think DAI+HAL should be considered generic, I mean, they did a lot of the Ayu classics that are just so original to her.

I prefer Days over GREEN, GAME over INSPIRE and as far as fairyland/alterna, it depends on my mood.

About BRILLANTE, to me the overall sound of the song wasn't "new" - it was refreshing to me because it sounded like something she would have released before, years ago. It has more of that "Ayu" feeling to it - maybe because it's original. But it's nothing extraordinarily out of the ordinary. The chanting is really the only thing that's out there and I would like the song better had the chanting not been included.

Kazeyomi 17th October 2011 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 2768913)
The chanting is really the only thing that's out there and I would like the song better had the chanting not been included.

The chanting part it's what makes BRILLANTE a gorgeous epic song. If there wasn't it, BRILLANTE would be considered a BALLAD -part II- type of song. In my opinion, of course :yes.

C+R+E+AYUMI 17th October 2011 08:21 AM

I second this..the song in its complex is absolutely great but I wonder if it didn't have the chanting would we have liked it the same way? Probably not.

Zeke. 17th October 2011 08:25 AM

Well I always skip past the opening chants to get to the part when the music really begins. It's too drawn out for me.

Andrenekoi 17th October 2011 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony G (Post 2768608)
DAI + HAL compositions would be good for Ayu's sales, but not her music. Ayu does NOT need another generic fluff song just to sell well in Japan. I think FIVE had enough of those (beloved and to a certain extent, progress). New and interesting compositions like BRILLIANTE will win out anyday, even though they won't be songs loved by the Japanese public.

I don't know even if it would help her sales to be sincere... Most of the time when an artist don't survive their own peak, one of the reasion it's cuz they kept releasing the same kind of stuff over and over again, times changed and their style got boring...


Bringing HAL, CREA and DAI back would only help her sales if the songs were good and if they fit this era as well as their compositions did before...

George 17th October 2011 02:23 PM

I've always thought that the chanting was tacky. Personally, it doesn't add anything to the song and what made me adore the song was her vocals.

isthisLOL? 17th October 2011 02:40 PM

The chanting is the main thing I love about BRILLANTE. The vocal melody itself is nothing special and without the chanting the arrangement would just be another "traditional grand ballad" with a more depressing twist.

Aderianu 17th October 2011 06:25 PM

200k! awesome sales for this mini-album

love in music 18th October 2011 04:28 AM

the chanting isn't so bad, but knowing timothy did it really brings it down for me (nothing against him, but i'd just rather not know, mystery is good). now i'd really rather it not be there.

Kaiouforever 18th October 2011 06:33 AM

Congrats for passing the 200k mark! So happy for her. I love how she is still a fairly strong seller and great quality music maker.

ayumisrael 18th October 2011 10:33 AM

7th week
Position : #28
Official Sales : 2,663
Official Total Sales : 202,874

RealLight 18th October 2011 11:40 AM

2,6k.. yeah, I saw that coming xD not bad :D

LONJJONG 18th October 2011 12:13 PM

wow... 7k to go to 210k..
:D

TITANIC 18th October 2011 12:55 PM

does anyone know how many weeks left until the end of 2011 chart run? 8 or 9 weeks?

AyuGAME 18th October 2011 01:40 PM

210k seems really possible..
maybe she can beat kuu's Dejavu

RealLight 18th October 2011 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TITANIC (Post 2769436)
does anyone know how many weeks left until the end of 2011 chart run? 8 or 9 weeks?

According to generasia, there are left 8 weeks until this year's chart ends..

sanzo2011 18th October 2011 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 2769449)
210k seems really possible..
maybe she can beat kuu's Dejavu

I want this happen and i guess it 'll!LOL!

ayumisrael 18th October 2011 06:38 PM

1st Day
Position: #29

brener 18th October 2011 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanzo2011 (Post 2769527)
I want this happen and i guess it 'll!LOL!

all of us!" =D

Jester 19th October 2011 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2769395)
7th week
Position : #28
Official Sales : 2,663
Official Total Sales : 202,874

7th week is #38 :yes

ayumisrael 19th October 2011 08:49 AM

Right, thanks ^^

brener 19th October 2011 10:31 AM

i hope we'll have some steady sales next week too..

Amuro_Ray 19th October 2011 12:28 PM

If blue ray ver is also counting the sales of FIVE, 210k is really possible :p

Andrenekoi 19th October 2011 01:18 PM

Guys... considering Ayu's usual album chart life, this is going to chart for at least 15 weeks total... x_x You are overlooking her sale power... 210k+ is almost sure....

Jester 19th October 2011 09:35 PM

I really hope FIVE will cross 250k
so Ayu will have 25 albums that certificated as Platinum (even she has several albums that cetificated as Million)

njanjayrp 19th October 2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amuro_Ray (Post 2769919)
If blue ray ver is also counting the sales of FIVE, 210k is really possible :p

It will chart on the separate charts for BDs.

AyumiAi 19th October 2011 09:52 PM

^ do you know that for sure? because how come the CD+DVD version dont count for DVD charts? why would the CD+Bluray count for bluray?

isthisLOL? 19th October 2011 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2770235)
^ do you know that for sure? because how come the CD+DVD version dont count for DVD charts? why would the CD+Bluray count for bluray?

It's not CD+Bluray. It's just Bluray.

AyumiAi 19th October 2011 10:50 PM

^oh okk

brener 20th October 2011 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 2770228)
I really hope FIVE will cross 250k
so Ayu will have 25 albums that certificated as Platinum (even she has several albums that cetificated as Million)

it doesnt need to sell over 250k copies to be certificated as platinum, since the certifications are based on shipments. Kumi's Dejavu was certificated as platinum with only 211k copies sold =D So theres a big chance that FIVE will have that achievement soon.

btw.

8th Week

2nd Day
Position: out of top 20


8th Week

3rd Day
Position: #20

and @ayumisrael, correct me if im wrong but according to oricon 8th week 1st day the album position was #29, not #28. check
oricon site for 10/17...

looks like we're having an increase on sales this week!! =D

inspire_rmx 21st October 2011 03:39 PM

hope the sales stay this way for a few more weeks =) 210,000 would be great

ayumisrael 21st October 2011 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brener (Post 2770395)
it doesnt need to sell over 250k copies to be certificated as platinum, since the certifications are based on shipments. Kumi's Dejavu was certificated as platinum with only 211k copies sold =D So theres a big chance that FIVE will have that achievement soon.

btw.

8th Week

2nd Day
Position: out of top 20


8th Week

3rd Day
Position: #20

and @ayumisrael, correct me if im wrong but according to oricon 8th week 1st day the album position was #29, not #28. check
oricon site for 10/17...

looks like we're having an increase on sales this week!! =D

Yeah I thought I fixed it thanks! I did now. ^^

I'm so glad to see it jumped to 20 yesterday XD

brener 21st October 2011 07:00 PM

tho today it's out of top 30 =\

ayumisrael 22nd October 2011 12:11 PM

5th Day
Position: #30

brener 22nd October 2011 12:31 PM

nice =]

Refix 23rd October 2011 05:22 AM

Woheee it already passed 200k, nice.
Pretty impressive for a mini album.

TITANIC 23rd October 2011 01:12 PM

25 *,211,033 ***,*** Dejavu / 倖田來未 11/03/02
26 *,202,874 **2,663 FIVE / 浜崎あゆみ 11/08/31

FIVE is behind Dejavu now and within 2-3 weeks Love Songs will be pushed out from top 20

AyuGAME 23rd October 2011 05:03 PM

time to take over Dejavu!!!


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