Well, last angel on ayu's rock and circus tour was awesome and so was microphone!! :yes

So Maro was married when he got with Ayu. A lot of people said he was separated but now i don't believe that. Japanese fans are really mad so is obvious that he left his wife for Ayumi. So this is why Japanese fans don't agree with the whole Maro and ayu thing. If he wasn't married they probably wouldn't hate him so much. The only reason they made public was because the got caught . The news was going come out and Ayu had to say it . Why would they hide whole thing cause he was marry. Why would she hide it if he wasn't marry. She was very open with her relationship with Mannie. I believe she divorce Mannie to be with Maro now . But that's her problem. Maro is the one who loses in the end now he is no longer her dancer/choreographer like he use to be. He will be only a choreographer probably less money and less fame for him. in time his fans will forget him cause they won't see him. Maro is a great dancer is too bad. He didn't have to get involve in this mess he is the only one losing. Ayu will always be ayu and no matter what she does people will always make excuses for her. But look at poor Maro he is getting most of the heat from the relationship when they both did wrong.
It is what it is. I still love you Ayu.

i love you

Lol, love it! :laugh

This is a master piece! People stop ingnoring it!! :love:love

On one hand, he would probably have access to more cash than before because Ayu would buy things for him/them I suppose? I mean, how do relationships work when one half is paying the wages of the other?

Would she fire him if they broke up? I don't know, it's actually pretty sad to think about. Gomi didn't get a celebratory retirement concert or even an announcement. And he was there for a long, long time.....and quite popular amongst Ayu's fans. Her behind the scenes people come and go so quickly, would we even realise if Maro suddenly disappeared altogether?

The divorce announcement was so sudden and unexpected.....would Ayu even tell us if the relationship ended? I preferred Mannie to Maro but I don't want Maro to end up getting suddenly cut out like it seems Mannie was, left just to get made fun of and ostracised from the Japanese public he was liked by.... :shakehead

seriously, i still don't like Maro and Mannie with Ayu...

somehow deep down.. i felt Shuya is the best for Ayu~~ wahahaha XD

Let's see whether at the end is it Ayu with Maro or who else?~ XD

I really don't care about, who is Ayu's Boyfriend.
If she still do good Music, she can be together with who ever she want's to.

yeah if they break up i don't think he can keep working there. Can you imagine looking at your ex every day.(even though it happened to me)

Well the divorce was kind of weird either it was a lie or Mannie got play by Ayu. I never understood why people hated Mannie so much. Well i think the over sea fans didn't like him. Love songs didn't do as bad as Again so i guess the hate came from oversea fans not Japanese fans. He was better for Ayu then maro. Look at all the mess the Maro relationship cost.

I always wonder why wasn't there a party for Peco and Gomi when they left ayus team? (Maybe they had a private party???)

This made me giggle... alot!

Being a dancer myself, I really did enjoy Maro's dancing, but they have their reasons an I'm not at rehearsals or their meetings to even try to understand their decisions... I will just sit back and enjoy :)

I just read on Misa-chan's Blog new TA entry on Maro, and Ayu didn't really say that much about it, tbh

counting down the hours till Ayu fesses up that she married again...

^ you must have missed it...
:lech

^ don't even joke about that!
:P

I was thinking - which one is better looking, Mannie or Maro
difficult decision, and not in a good way :laugh

maro hands down.

Mannie (he didn't hurt ayus carrier as much as Maro did)

^ its based on looks.
I'd choose Maro, I could lick him all over aaaall daaay...

Oh ok Jajajajaja i still choose Mannie he is taller. I like tall guys maro is cute but a little short.

I guess I would chose Maro too.. He doesn't look slimy like Mannie

lol haha, Manny IS tall and thats pretty hot too.
He looks like he needs to rest in a tub of bleach though.

Neither, but if I were forced to repopulate the Earth with one of them, I'd settle for Maro.

With most people it would be good bye Earth.

I'd go Mannie. :D

Poor Ayu, she is so unlucky in love. :(

Tomoya :innocent

^win

Amen!

I wonder why they broke up?

Maro has a nice body..
but an ugle "Joker" face too!
in fact "you and me" clip scare me a little evytime the camera show his face, his strange eyes and his weirdr mouth expression.

^
I know his weird mouth expression especially when he surrounded by fans and have to wait for Ayu to sign and take pic with fans xD

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/1913/marolook.jpg

back off, shes my gf xD



haha OMg look those eyes, the eyebrows OMG meltdown :luv2 I always think they looked cute together,loved how Nagase treated her too. ayu looked at her happiest when she was with Nagase :love

I don't know how accurate this is, but I once remember hearing that Ayu said it was because they grew to be more like brother and sister than lovers. I don't even know how she could have felt like that with his sexy body. I could also make a very inappropriate incest joke right about now.

I have read 10 pages of this thread and I still don't get how Maro messed Ayu's carrier? Anybody can give me a short version of this?

^ ewww. lol...
but being together for 7 years your bound to grow closer...
i hate relationships, lol.

General public got pissed because he was going trough divorce when they started dating and there are rumours he has a kid.

Ayu fandom felt it was all a publicity stunt because as soon as the couple was announced, again covers with Maro were released.

I don't think we'll ever know the truth of Ayu's relationships. And it should be that way.

I do wonder about that relationship though. Especially with Ayu singing the likes of Together when... still (gorgeous song, but you would have to think about the person it was for while singing it).

And I wonder if the whole running away, and jumping back into each others arms ploy that she performs at every concert refers to that? She's done it for a few years now...

well, if she thinks of him as a brother it would still be easy to come up with those feelings...
also she said in order to write the song HEAVEN is imagined him dead... so we know shes good at coming up with stuff, lol.

Sorry, and I honestly don't mean to harm or insult anyone. But somewhere in this forum, have I read before the words:
I just can't remember where. XD

Am I going too far when I find it somewhat very sexist that people over here link the quality of Ayu's production to who she is dating? Like she is some kind of useless, intelectually challenged, stupid girl without the right man by her side?

It would depend on how the individual person thought that Nagase influenced Ayu. Some may think that the songs are that of some lovesick school girl thanks to him, but some people could possibly mean the influence that he had on her life, regardless of his role in it. We don't know what Nagase himself was like. He may have been a very insightful person. If he were a lover or a friend, it wouldn't matter in this situation.

I still think they'd have the most beautiful children together :)
I haven't known much of Nagase, but then I watched some movies and his comedy-playing roles, I came to think he's actually pretty charming, has a good sense of humour and is really good at playing comedy roles

I think the main problem with him is maybe his unwillingness to get married? he usually dates girls for long, like Ayu & Aibu Saki, but then after long dating, he broke up with both

:lech

That's really too bad, because he's so good to look at during the show, lol. Did I hear somewhere that Timmy has been axed from her show as well? That, on the other hand, is amazing news :D

When i heard about the brake up that was the first feeling that came to my mind he doesn't want to get married. Who wants a men like that ??????.

There is no reason to think Tomoya didn't wanted to get married and therefore he and Ayu broke up. None of them said anything like this.
And to answer your question, I would want a man like that, 'cos I'm simply not a big fan of marriage.

Actually, weren't the rumours saying Ayu was the one not wanting to marry him?

7 years of Tomoya no marriage 1 or 2 moths of Mannie marriage you do the math. Unless the whole Mannie thing was a lie.

You have absolutely no clue why they broke up. It's arrogant to jump to such conclusions when you know exactly NOTHING about the reasons for Ayu's break up with Tomoya or why she married Mannie.

Well honey this what I think I didn't say that it actually happened. I can write what i want arrogant or not when i feel like it.Don't like then ignore it.

By your logic I could send her a letter asking her on marriage at that time and she would gladly agree...

Missed opportunity to be rich ;---;

Next time! Maybe you should ask Utada or Namie? I mean both married very quickly the first time, so they seem to like to marry.

Don't worry she is not dead yet you can still send her a letter to Japan. I'm sure she will drop Maro once she gets your letter like she did to Mannie.
I''ll repeat it again I can write what i want arrogant or not when i feel like it. Don't like then ignore it.

Don't take it too seriously

She has every right to respond to your posts however she wants, if YOU don't like it, YOU can ignore it.

...and hopefully shut up cause you were starting to sound like a broken record...

if you guys need to fight...go do it over pm lol



Anyway. Her and Nagase probably just got too busy for each other tbh. That's what happens when you have high priority careers. I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did.

Idk, in my opinion, we get some of the best material when she's going through angsty, sad ****, like breakups.

i dont know. I thought some of her best stuff was I am to Memorial address and bits of My story and Missunderstood... the heart of her relationship with Tomoya

Didn't hear that news... if its true... I won't miss him.

where on earth was that posted...
seems like just some crazy fan hoping for a miracle.

Huh? Timmy is still there, he was at Kôhaku and at CDL.

Not sure why though... Seem like ayu still loves nagase the most, but situations makes them break up... Well, her lyrics from "missing" seem to suggest that.. Talks about how she understands how the guy felt when she ditch him. ( she assumes that he must have felt really sad when he's ditch, but she didn't really care at that time) so, ayu felt that she loved him still but it's too late to reconcile now..

Together when lyrics also suggest that...

Not everything
We got snowy kiss with Mario (hahaha) and party queen with I don't even like typing his name. Party queen wasn't that bad I think.

I think the break up and the death was the low point... (Guilty)
Next Level was a huge plus... rock n roll was okay... Love songs amazing.

Ok, sorry but WTF? I haven't checked in for a few months and come back to this! Is she really in a relationship with Maro? Isn't he a dancer of hers?

Yes, she is. There's been quite a bit of drama about it too, but I think it's settled down.

I think we forgot all about it because of CDL...

According to a Japanese friend, Maro and Ayu just broke up!
We don't know if its true yet, but here's the link to the article:
http://zasshi.news.yahoo.co.jp/artic...000-pseven-ent

It's not a good time for them to break up now! Her album doesn't come out until next month! :laugh

I don't know if Ayu's image will survive another break up like this.

I asked my friend why the broke up (or why according to the article, if its true); and she said "The media said Ayu worried about that her fans got away."
-> She placed fans before love? Her english is a bit weird

... seriously? :|

all i can say is....
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7805/yfclol.gif

i dont even want to know about her love life anymore... -.-

There is an album coming out in 2 days. I don't see the relation though, break up news and relationship news do not help, we've seen it before.

I hope it is not true. I want her to be happy, is that too much to wish for? *sigh*

Is that gackt and hyde?!

^ no it's GACKT, someone i can't remember the name of, and CHACHA.

The article mentions model Ako-san (26) and her son (1) once more. I still find that confusing. He has a child with a Ako, but she is not the women he was married to. Was that ever confirmed somewhere?

^ Since we have no proof that this article is true, this might just be a reason to doubt it its credibility.
(Does anyone know anything about how credible yahoo are, on general basis?)

but if its true about the breakup then..
http://i.imgur.com/5DJ1Q.gif

The source is Josei Seven another gossip mag. And Ayu mentions nothing on TA.....(yet) I'll just write it off as another rumour.

It's Yahoo sourcing from News Post Seven/Josei Seven.

I don't think this is anything to be worried about.

yahoo is notorious for just publishing crap, so.....

Inb4 they were never in a relationship to begin with.

The only person who suffers because of this relationship is me :p I already lost Mitsu, now Maro.

When first rumors about their relationshiop came out I was worried that if anything goes wrong I'll lose one of my favourite dancers, now it occured they don't have to break up for him to disapappear from the stage. First Mitsu, then Gomi, now Maro.

I like Subaru and Zin but they are the happy ones (same with Gomi), I'm fine with them, I like them, but Mitsu, Maro and Shuya were/are honey for my eyes, I just love watching them on stage, now it's only Shuya, not fair :(

Its pig headed to interpret songs lyrics and just put them to what you think they belong too. Ayu is older than us and a lot can happen in a year, with love/outlook on life etc, (im not but if your not 30, you cant understand ayu fully, we dont have the life experience) one person can not say why another has acted, only ayu knows + with ayu saying she keeps her personal life private, its just that. Just because she sings a song with lonely and regret tones does not mean shes singing about an ex ether, yet alone Nagase :P

so are we expecting another break up album after LOVE again?
Love songs > Party Queen
LOVE again > Lonely Queen?

or... Return Road ~EPISODE II~?

Another Return Road would be epic

For them to break up is a possibility, what else do you want with all these people criticizing her? And if they break up now the same people who criticized her for being with him in the first place are gonna criticize her for them splitting up? Give me a bloody break.

People can be so childish at times, just because you're seeing everything from the outside and don't have feelings involved it doesn't give you the right to be a c*nt, because you know, when you like someone or when you fall in love you could become the biggest idiot on Earth.

I couldn't care less if they broke up, or even if they stayed together, as long as he stays away from the spotlight for a while. I always liked him and I still do, but it's better that way for now.

I hope that article isn't true, it's so heartbreaking. Someday Ayu's prince will come...

I think we shouldn't worry about this stupid article, and if they do break up, tough titties, who cares?

Maybe we WILL get I Party Alone now!

Yeah, I don't think anyone should worry about who Ayu dates.

We don't know her, and never will. Most people don't care about who strangers date. And she is a stranger, a high profile and 'well known' stranger sure, but still a person who deserves privacy...

I mean, I could understand why fans would care for her definitely. But it's not like we are her family. We can't say, "This person is not good for you," or, "I didn't think they would last," as we know neither person.

I think a lot of people have a problem with her lovers in her public image, but so many artists have used their partners in cover art, PVs, etc. She's not the only one and she will never be the last. It should just be taken as a pinch of salt and something that will be discussed in ten years time as a fun fact. xD

The news is stirring... I saw it on an entertainment reel on news program, and at least 5 additional websites are reporting it...

And I said before, but Yahoo Japan is a very reliable source here.

I love your optimism, honestly :heart

If the rumor is true, this is such crap for both Maro and Ayu. :/ If two people want to have a relationship, it's such a shame that it has to be blown up so publicly, and that it even has to be public news at all...

For a while now I've been thinking Ayu is kind of "cursed" when it comes to love. That's not to say she can never have a relationship that works out, but only that it seems like she's the sort of person who will find love, lose it, and find it again -- ad nauseam. Sure, that's true for pretty much everyone but with Ayu it seems to be a particular sore point since the beginning of her career both musically and as a "celebrity." It's like she's going to be made a fool of by love, but it's still something she won't give up on yet it's something that continuously causes her pain...

I'm getting esoteric and sappy, and I don't think I'm explaining my thoughts properly... but it just strikes me as the most crucial, core point of all of her songs, no matter what they're about, whether she's singing as a character or (presumably) about her personal life. How many songs from her entire discography either have love in their title or are about suffering because of love? There's a few that come to mind immediately:

LOVE~destiny~
appears
Because of you
the next LOVE
beloved
BRILLANTE
Days
(don't) Leave me alone
fated
forgiveness
GAME
HANABI
HANABI ~episode II~
is this LOVE?
JEWEL
Last angel
LOVE'n'HATE
Love song
meaning of Love
MOON
November
Over
part of Me
Return Road
1 LOVE
Together when...

Like I said, we can argue that all her songs are about love in one way or another, but these in particular strike me as rather painful, both for their optimism (in some) and others for how brutally honest and sad they are. I think "fated" illustrates this perfectly. It's ironic that the title and the first line makes you think about two lovers who are destined to be together, and yet it's all about how the speaker of the song is confused by illusions and reality. They don't want to let go of the dream that is love, and yet the song concludes that they will abandon the dream -- even if the person they love is right in front of them.

I think that's probably the best way to sum up Ayu's continual struggle as an artist: the dream is right there in front of her. She doesn't want to let go of it, she doesn't want to give up on it, but there will always be the impulse to give in and admit defeat. And then it goes around back in a circle, where the dream comes back, she gives into it, and then suffers for it.

/lame lol

Didn't gossip magazines spread rumors of Ayu's and Nagase's break up once in a while since the day they started dating? I assume this is a possibility with Ayu and Maro because I've read many old threads here that were filled with those kind of things, too so there's probably something similar going on. I'd say that we shouldn't believe any gossip magazines until Ayu herself says she broke up with him. :)

Yup, people love to report that stuff. It's basically the fire that keeps the tabloid machine running lol

Wasn't Josei Seven the same gossip outlet that initially reported that Maro and Ayu were dating in the first place?

:(

EDIT: It was just the first magazine to print an article on the relationship that had been confirmed by Ayu and Maro's blog posts.

Obviously this one has no concrete proof like a blog post, so it's probably not true...:D

There are the same gossips who said a few month ago that Ayu and Nagase was together once again lol It could be true but Ayu didn't yet makes a statement so I don't pay much attention at this !

at the very least we can trust ayu to come forward with this information in due time lol

Who died?

Omg lol Ayu should forget about Nagase, Mannie, and Maro and just marry Gackt!

Lol I love you for saying that.

Next thread should be "Ayu and Maro The Break-Up Thread"

Is marriage in Japan a big deal? I think I'm in a culture obscured confusion state 0_o()


As long as Maro and his Ex are okay with dating other people then it shouldn't matter if they are technically married cause that crap takes forever to finalize. At least it does over here in the states. Is it this was in Japan? I don't really put any special feeling on marriage, it's just a ceremony and tax breaks. What matters are the feeling right?

Maro was a passionate dancer though ;_; If it was a publicity stunt wouldn't that have kept Maro on cause then everyone would have come to the CDL to watch every small movement the two made together.

Working closely with your staff can cause a lot of feeling to come into existence... I speak from experience. I'll bet it's even more of a tight knit group for Ayu because of the level of the production and traveling they all do together...

Personally I don't care who she dates. It's her life and I don't think her love life solely affected the quality of the material. Some of the things she has written about could be based on her family and friends experiences during the time right?

And I agree with whoever said Mannie needed some cleansers... but some girls/guys like the rugged look. I loved the PVs she did with him though. They had great chemistry!

I can't speak from any point of knowledge about Japanese culture when it comes to marriage, so instead I'll speak from what I think in regards to Ayu as a public figure, and the kind of scrutiny people hold to public figures. We forget that they're people and that people are flawed. We want to be able to relate to them, but never when they mess up or do things we don't like. Ayu associating with a guy who's basically on the road to divorce could be interpreted as, if anything, hasty and a little bit thoughtless.

This is me speaking as devil's advocate. Since I think this whole line of reasoning is just flawed and weird lol