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Meshal 7th March 2013 04:48 PM

i hope this one will pass 100k

Minttulatte 7th March 2013 05:20 PM

Ayu's sales and chart positions these days are interesting thing to follow even if I don't really care. I'm here for the music but when she was easily topping the charts, I didn't really see any need to follow her sales that much but last year it was awesome. :D

Pieces_of_SEVEN 7th March 2013 11:29 PM

Not even 100k yet? ...jeez...

ayumisrael 7th March 2013 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2982471)
Huh? How? The Best Fiction Tour alone had 64 dates all in arenas. She just performed 8 shows at Dome's. That right there surpasses the total for an entire Arena tour. Both tour a lot, but for the past several years now Namie's attendance top Ayu's and for sure DVD/bluray sales top Ayus. I don't know why that should really matter much though. People should just be happy that any female artist is making it to the top of the charts these days even if it might not be their favorite.

I meant that she and Namie have the most attendents overall, maybe I shouldn't use the word "with".

SunshineSlayer 8th March 2013 03:16 AM

^Ah I see. Yeah, I misread your post. :)

Gkone01 8th March 2013 11:15 AM

LOVE again has a gold certification !
http://www.riaj.or.jp/data/others/gold/201302.html

Livey~ 8th March 2013 11:59 AM

yeah! ♥

Mr. Goto 8th March 2013 12:03 PM

I'm interested to see what they do with the next album. Having just digital single(s) is kinda risky and if they try fake mini albums again....lol

ayumisrael 8th March 2013 12:23 PM

5th Week

1st Day
Position: #14

Out of the top 50

4th Day
Position: #45

Congrats for gold certification! So she has no original/compilation albums that are not at least certified with gold yet :)
Well I could add mini albums too if not for again lol. Though LOVE was certified at the singles one anyway right? So I wonder if it's original/compilation/mini-albums lol

TeamAyu2004 8th March 2013 02:03 PM

^ I thought again was certified, but much like LOVE it was under the singles for RIAJ?

and congrats on this album doing it as well!

brener 8th March 2013 02:14 PM

thats great!!

KarenPang 8th March 2013 02:15 PM

Last I recalled , again was never certified by RIAJ , be it under the albums or singles category of RIAJ's website

At least LOVE again is certified

GREENsora 8th March 2013 06:04 PM

Congrats Ayu!

Delicious n Bold 8th March 2013 06:15 PM

it went gold?
so i was wrong

L.... 9th March 2013 04:46 PM

#28 @ 5th Day

brener 9th March 2013 05:17 PM

great =] at least it will reach 80k

KarenPang 10th March 2013 12:46 PM

It's out of the top 30 on the 6th day

ayumisrael 10th March 2013 01:01 PM

6th Day
Position: #48

ayumisrael 12th March 2013 02:45 PM

5th Week
Position: #61
Official Sales: 2,308
Official Total Sales: 81,399

6th Week

1st Day
Position: #25

brener 12th March 2013 04:55 PM

better than what i expected!

GREENsora 13th March 2013 04:20 AM

Nice, it passed 80k!

Delicious n Bold 13th March 2013 04:48 AM

now a sharp decline...

chu-lips 13th March 2013 06:49 AM

i guess it'll stop at 90k...
what a pity....

spanishfan 14th March 2013 06:27 PM

2-3 weeks more to cross 85k mark
With the beggining of the tour, it may have a "rise" (at least, don't drop) in sales. It'll beat 95k... not sure about 100k

Gkone01 19th March 2013 10:35 AM

6th week
Rank : #73
Sales : 1,537
Total : 82,936

ayumisrael 19th March 2013 10:55 AM

Thank you for both :)

brener 19th March 2013 11:40 AM

i hope it charts for at least 10 weeks =)

Delicious n Bold 20th March 2013 09:08 PM

Bye bye 100k

brener 20th March 2013 10:56 PM

we always knew it wouldnt reach 100k .... sadly

adantatu2 21st March 2013 01:52 AM

I thought it could reach 90k, but nop

brener 21st March 2013 04:37 AM

luckly it will hit 85k =)

visionfactory 21st March 2013 05:41 AM

At least I'm positive next album will definitely sell better than LOVE again, right? ^_^

(Well... except if the covers feature Ayu wearing lingerie or a new boyfriend...)

Amuro_Ray 21st March 2013 07:41 AM

Still fewer than Mika.... so poor on Ayu.

I don't think anything can make selling more for next Album.

Bigtop 21st March 2013 10:20 AM

What's really going on with avex and ayu??? I can't believe this won't even get 100k... After all, times have changed - digital era, iPod, Johnny's, AKB...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amuro_Ray (Post 2986550)
Still fewer than Mika.... so poor on Ayu.

I don't think anything can make selling more for next Album.

:(

ayumisrael 21st March 2013 12:12 PM

Well ayu's album will probably will be able to sell more than Mika's REAL in a few weeks.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 21st March 2013 12:21 PM

We can't predict the future accurately but I'm sure that she'll do fine if they manage to come up with something overall good, and also if they release it properly.

These 5 releases should have all been singles and the album should have came out half way through the year or even at the end of the year, we fans don't **** dollar bills. But yet again AVEX is desperate, they are milking namie like crazy now, just ridiculous.

AyuGAME 21st March 2013 01:07 PM

i believe her next album will get better sales...

don't forget that LOVE again is just a compilation of her two minis plus new tracks..no new PV

KarenPang 21st March 2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2986593)
Well ayu's album will probably will be able to sell more than Mika's REAL in a few weeks.

Don't forget LOVE again was released in 6 editions (inclusive of the Playbutton) but Mika's REAL was released in only 2 standard CD and CD + DVD's

The fact that LOVE again is struggling to break 90K with more editions as compared to REAL (with the CD + DVD being out of print on CDJapan) , I think that's saying something

It doesn't mean that the more editions of something being released , sales will improve which in this case it doesn't apply for LOVE again

Delicious n Bold 21st March 2013 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amuro_Ray (Post 2986550)
Still fewer than Mika.... so poor on Ayu.

I don't think anything can make selling more for next Album.

That's deplorable.

KuuXAyu-fan 21st March 2013 05:19 PM

I have to wonder. How much did this whole Maro mess really affect her? LOVE did so great for a mini-album so did Maro really turn this many people off? :grumpy

miki_beland 21st March 2013 11:45 PM

^ yes he did... by the time LOVE was released, the Maro scandal was not happening yet. Ayu took Maro out of her dancer team because that was what fans were asking her to do.

Tony G 22nd March 2013 03:13 AM

You have to take into account LOVE was the first release as well (and her first original release since March of that year) - this will always sell more in the every-month-release campaigns.

GREENsora 22nd March 2013 03:19 AM

Honestly, I don't blame people for not buying this album. Sticking in her "mini-albums" onto a "studio album" wasn't such a good move.

Hopefully the next album will do better :yes

Max_ZZZ 22nd March 2013 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony G (Post 2986760)
You have to take into account LOVE was the first release as well (and her first original release since March of that year) - this will always sell more in the every-month-release campaigns.

crossroad and seasons sold more then their countrrparts!

Chris85 24th March 2013 03:33 AM

Is there a chart for digital downloads?

SpiceSquad! 24th March 2013 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GREENsora (Post 2986762)
Honestly, I don't blame people for not buying this album. Sticking in her "mini-albums" onto a "studio album" wasn't such a good move.

Hopefully the next album will do better :yes

+100 :yes

saigodansu 24th March 2013 12:26 PM

^^ If Avex continues playing games with the fans, such as marketing singles as mini albums to sell more and make more money after saying sales don't matter, then sales will continue dropping. If they stop the publicity stunts and other marketing gimmicks and let her singing sell albums they might have a chance of sales going back up. Not that I see much hope for that, but it has a better chance than the way they are currently doing.

Delicious n Bold 24th March 2013 04:36 PM

I can't believe that they said that sales don't matter.
They really don't, but you don't want your career to be like CK or hitomi or hiromi or flopzuki

brener 27th March 2013 05:31 PM

already dead?? =o

Delicious n Bold 27th March 2013 09:22 PM

dead, killed.

ayumisrael 27th March 2013 09:22 PM

Forgot to update! Sorry =)

7th week
Position: #104
Official Sales: 1,028
Official Total Sales: 83,964

85,000 in 2 weeks.

visionfactory 28th March 2013 06:01 AM

^Thank you!

It's a pity it's not going to sell over 90k :no

brener 28th March 2013 06:45 AM

well not a huge drop, it's good

brener 3rd April 2013 08:05 PM

so what about this week? (=

ayumisrael 3rd April 2013 09:31 PM

8th Week
Position: #144
Official Sales: 900
Official Total Sales: 84,864

85,000+ next week.

brener 4th April 2013 03:36 PM

thank god

MeyChan 4th April 2013 04:11 PM

Nice, so nice!! Thanks!! ^-^

Delicious n Bold 4th April 2013 04:18 PM

The edited post made no sense
85k!!

A Loon 4th April 2013 05:27 PM

Might be a bit too optimistic, but I still think LOVE again can hit 100k. We should expect sales boost when the tour starts :D

brener 4th April 2013 09:33 PM

^

her tours never boosted her album sales :L

TeamAyu2004 5th April 2013 12:11 AM

well, since oricon only counts a 3rd of the sales I dont see that happening, but I would be surprised if avex didnt get a little boost from the tour.

A Loon 5th April 2013 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brener (Post 2990154)
^

her tours never boosted her album sales :L

They usually do prevent huge drops in sales. So virtually, it is a small boost :P

Gkone01 10th April 2013 10:54 AM

9th Week
Position: #114
Official Sales: 736
Official Total Sales: 85,600

adrtwb 10th April 2013 11:24 AM

I felt so sad for this, she could definitely sell more than 85k. But well..

marty 10th April 2013 11:48 AM

I'm still shocked... I never thought I would see the day Ayu sales were so low... With an album that deserved so much more, too!:(

visionfactory 10th April 2013 02:29 PM

85k yay!

brener 10th April 2013 08:28 PM

im glad about it. =) it could be worse..

adantatu2 11th April 2013 01:07 AM

^i think the same, it could be worse

marty 11th April 2013 09:41 AM

^ I really don't think so... Any worse and it'll be seriously a problem.
Of course I'm happy she's selling, and sales don't really matter for good music, but I worry because she doesn't deserve it and the japanese market is so fast and merciless. Apart from wanting her appreciated, I know that if she isn't followed in Japan she may stop doing music, 'cause of lacking budget or stuff... I'm just overapprehensive!:)

mizuki-7 16th April 2013 10:42 AM

10th Week
Position: #98
Official Sales: 815
Official Total Sales: 86,415

brener 16th April 2013 11:51 AM

a little increase!! it'll probably hit 90k!!

marty 16th April 2013 02:56 PM

Nice!=D So it's probably true that the tour helps a little!XD (and maybe, just maybe, I'm hoping for the 100k!)

MeyChan 16th April 2013 02:59 PM

Nice!! A little increase!

visionfactory 16th April 2013 05:48 PM

Yay!! It's not the end yet :D

adantatu2 17th April 2013 05:29 AM

The tour and TV helps a bit

mizuki-7 24th April 2013 11:22 AM

11th Week
Position: #128
Official Sales: 594
Official Total Sales: 87,009

AyuGAME 24th April 2013 12:12 PM

90K seems possible

brener 24th April 2013 02:24 PM

*-* yay!!

Surreal17 24th April 2013 02:30 PM

hoping for 100k

TeamAyu2004 24th April 2013 02:36 PM

hopefully she will hover around the 500 week while on tour!!

adantatu2 25th April 2013 12:33 AM

I'm glad she isn't out of the charts yet

Pieces_of_SEVEN 26th April 2013 02:28 AM

So it didn't even reach 100k? Damn...I don't get it. That's sad. :(

Elednist 26th April 2013 03:20 AM

Remember the days when the first day sales for NEXT LEVEL was higher than current sales for LOVE again, and surely higher than its total sales lol

brener 26th April 2013 05:53 AM

^

and we were already complaining about it :P

mizuki-7 1st May 2013 01:11 PM

12th Week
Position: #171
Official Sales: 595
Official Total Sales: 87,604

marty 1st May 2013 01:53 PM

Still hoping for 100k, come on LOVE again!

Pieces_of_SEVEN 1st May 2013 02:30 PM

Wow...90k if we're lucky. 100k seems out of reach.

marty 1st May 2013 03:05 PM

^
Shush! g_g Hope is the last to die!
Let me live my dream!, lol XDD

roanmy 1st May 2013 03:46 PM

100K won't happen. She will need 595 in sales for 23 weeks to hit that.
Hoping 92,5K :D

chikocchi 1st May 2013 03:47 PM

Maybe a lot of people bought it digitally like over iTunes and we just aren't seeing that :D

optimism~~~

mizuki-7 1st May 2013 04:15 PM

^
Of course there are but japan don't count them officially it's a shame because a lot of singers sell more digitally ...

ayumisrael 1st May 2013 04:17 PM

Well ayu's songs aren't usually certificated on RIAJ's PC downloads (iTunes) so there might be no songs that pass 100,000 unfortunately...

ayu's pretty much "dead" for the casual listeners/non-fans and that's probably why.

She is still a decent physical seller, which a lot (even most) aren't and that's after a lot of years/a lot of years after her peak as well and that's exactly why one would need a strong fanbase.

mizuki-7 1st May 2013 05:01 PM

There are not a lot of singers who are certificated on RIAJ's PC downloads but Ayu was 2 weeks in row in the top 5/10 on Itunes and 2nd montly on recochoku for album ranking and there are a lot of other website where you can download songs! Of course it's clear she is not popular and don't sells like she used to be but she is not dead yet lol

Pieces_of_SEVEN 1st May 2013 08:42 PM

I hate that digital sales still don't count toward oricon. smh.

brener 1st May 2013 09:07 PM

thanks for updating!! i'm surprised about this little steadiness =)

Delicious n Bold 1st May 2013 10:39 PM

it has charted for almost 1/4 of a year!

Elednist 4th May 2013 11:08 AM

I think the album will sell something like 89.999, maybe 89.900 or so xD

inspire_rmx 5th May 2013 07:55 AM

really hope that the next studio album sales will not be lower than this..

RealLight 5th May 2013 08:34 AM

Unfortunately, it will.

Delicious n Bold 5th May 2013 09:24 PM

She'll be lucky to sell 50k.
Ami suzuki must be jelly.


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