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^ also she's an old lady so lol that's the mentality of japan....
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I think brener meant was that all info will be available on the "everything will be up" part. LOL Ya'll being too critical guys. Its really funny how active some are when it comes to pessimistic ideas. LOOOOOL
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Ayu sales are dropping because she is old for jpop (and pop music in general) standarts. Every time someone over here meet someone from Japan and ask them what they think about Ayu, this is the reason given: She is old. Unlike Namie that wasn't on the public eyes for almost a decade, Ayu pretty much was being shoved on people's face all the time until 2010 or 2011.
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how does being away from the public eye make everyone forget how old you are?? her TK era will never be forgotten and she will forever be associated with that. that also didn't stop her agency from pushing the ~20th anniversary~ celebrations two years ago.
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About Ayu, the longer you are around without any pause, the older people feel you are. Considering Ayu already has 15 studio albums, that her peak ended more than 10 years ago and that she was shoved down the public's throad until 2010 or so, yeah, she for sure feels way older than Namie for the teenagers that remember her being around when they were kids but that have no memories of Namie's peak because they weren't born at the time. And those are the people that really buys music, between 14 and 20 years old. |
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In fact, so far the only Japanese who told me he really doesn't like Ayu (he was about my age, 20-something) also said it was because his sister is Ayu's fan and she listens her songs all the time, so he can't stand Ayu's songs anymore (which I can understand, because I'm the same with my brother's favorite band that he used to listen all the time out loud), so it wasn't really a bad thing, it's just a brother x sister thing, and his sister loves Ayu :) Of course I'm not saying that's how every one sees her here, maybe I'm just lucky I only met people who have no problem with her (except for the guy that had the Ayu's fan sister), but I just wanted to share my experience that is not nearly as bad as what people tend to say about the general Japanese people view of Ayu. |
3rd Week #31 with 2,922 copies sold
4th Week 1st Day #25 |
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Must admit I was expecting more, but well, tough week..
3rd Week Position: #31 Sales: 2,922 Total Sales: 48,339 |
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Yeah you're right we should all be active and unrealistily positive. Let's just all ingnore the fact and be optimistic. Let's just pretend ayu is saling millions and it's super popular!! Yaya go ayu :eviltongu |
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The total as of now... Love songs 272,653 Party Queen 148,290 LOVE again 88,825 Colours 48,339 About how long she's been in the industry... gosh! I remember I found out about her right after CAROLS was released (or right before MY STORY) and I though "I've missed so much of her!"... and now I've been following her for most of her career lol To be honest, I wouldn't mind much if she retired for a while. But for real. And maybe come back with a (last?) bang for her 20th anniversary or something. |
Why does she have to retire? There's still people like me who like her and want her to continue. If you want her to retire, retire yourselves from being fans.
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Now she isn't super busy like before, she is just releasing an album per year and maybe a single. She has time with her husband and she does what she likes. |
I discovered Ayu with Five so I want so much more of her. Iīm buying all her discography and stuff... I donīt want her to retire.
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I don't want her to retire either! I am fan since memorial address, snif... :(
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Some people complain without having any idea of the current sales situation for female solo artists in Japan, Ayu's current sales aren't bad at all LOL
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^Look at Ai Otsuka, the sales for her last album are really sad :(
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^ Yeah, she sold only 4k on the first week, and she was still in #22... Imagine all other artists who had their new albums under hers. There are so many artists that don't sell even 1k on the first week, and people still talk like if Ayu's sales are the most depressing thing when she's actually about to pass 50k lol
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^ I really don't understand why Otsuka Ai lost so many fans during her hiatus, it's such a great loss for the J-Pop market =\
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And that's why retiring for a while isn't a good idea for Ayu either.
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I kinda like it... I think Ai can explore a lot of possibilities she couldn't because of the obligation to the market. |
Maybe she should retire to enjoy life with her husband? I don't know... that's usually why people get married and stuff. Or do we have another divorce ahead?
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^Do people retire once they get married on your country? :P
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She can do whatever, even if she decided to release less often or only produce things in LA and not work in Japan as much. And I only say that because she moved. Divorces can happen for many reasons. Even if you're a huge celebrity, people don't just retire from activity completely when they get married. The only difficulty I could see her facing is being active in Japan. At the end if the day, she'll do what she thinks is best for whatever it is that she wants. |
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^ Couldn't agree more.
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Honestly, if Ayu would be a man, nobody would even think about retirement and everyone who would say something like that would be laughed at. |
Retirement ? No, I think she can take breaks or mini-hiatus to enjoy his husband and her L.A. life.
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I thought we were talking about Ai Otsuka, but the same goes for ayu..
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She is already having little breaks between her releases and the tour this year was pretty short! I believe she's enjoying her husband xD
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Alvin just posted this on his instagram, could someone translate?
"NEXT Plus One x ALVIN GOH Weekly Column Issue 13 featuring The Revolutionary 滨崎步 Ayumi Hamasaki!! Check out this exclusive 2 pages special in my weekly column featuring Ayu and I talking about shooting her new CD cover "COLOURS"" Spoiler:
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Today
50 - Colours AVT 14/7/2 浜崎あゆみ |
kinda huge drop on the 4th Week :~
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#48 today
48 - Colours AVT 14/7/2 浜崎あゆみ Colours charted #1 on G-Music Taiwan Chart, #2 on 5music Taiwan Chart |
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She's #7 on G-Music's "Combo chart"! |
I hope Colours can manage to sell at least 1k this week...
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^ yeah... it needs less than 2k to reach 50k, but I guess it's gonna take 2~3 weeks like this >_<
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UHQ CoLOURS booklet photos from facebook.com/alvingohsg
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^thanks!
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7/27 #44
7/28 out of top 50 |
I thought this booklet was amazing. But that quality just makes me feel blown away
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4th Week
Position: #62 Sales: 1,486 Total Sales: 49,825 |
Btw Colours is still at least today #30 on recochoku, I wonder if it's good since it's almost a month old already. =)
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^ Colours is also #30 on Oricon Daily Chart today!! =)) I'm so happy xP
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60k is really hard !!
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Even 55k seems difficult -__-
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*ultimate facepalm* But actually, that's exactly what MOST Japanese women do once they get married, and it's one of the things I hate the most because I lose sight of singers and such I usually like. I admit I worded my post wrong, so... Showbusiness is a very demanding place and the Japanese one even more. What I simply said is that maybe, MAYBE, she could just tone it down (yeah, even more) and try enjoy life. Isn't she supposed to be in the "honeymoon phase" or whatever? Why's she working so much and not enjoying that? To be honest, I don't get the whole idea of marriage, and much less when a couple's been together for less than a couple of years, but... whatevs. I think her workaholic attitude is going to come in the way again if she doesn't change something. Anyway, 50k should be reachable, but I don't think she'll go much further with this album. I still don't get why the tour was scheduled to end when the album just came out. Who the hell decides this? x__x |
OMG i'm so happy for the chart run of this album (by 2014 standards lol) I can't believe it went up again.
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I see no reason for her to slow down her work, she isn't doing that much recently. |
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Isn't there a new deji diary of her in Hawaii too or whatever. I thought I heard about that before I heard about the numero photoshoot. Though that's in Hawaii right? Idk, from following her, it's been clear that she hasn't been working much and just doing whastever. That deji diary at whatever tropical place a while ago was probably her little honeymoon. |
I sincerely hope she's jotting down thoughts & feelings to use as lyrics later. Her songs have often seemed very forced over the last few years; like even when they were honest you got the feeling she was sitting down & saying "Okay, song lyrics..." and partly reusing old phrases & thoughts in order to get the song's story told. Like she's REMEMBERING feeling things, but not actually FEELING them as she's writing, you know? So I hope she's writing things down AS she feels them, so she can turn them into lyrics later. Maybe not in a structured setting, but writing things down nonetheless. It'd be nice for her lyrics to feel like feelings more often again.
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Idk, I feel like her lyrics lately seem like things she would feel and stuff lately. Even if not all of them are things she's going though at the moment. Especially RnRC, Love songs, and Party Queen. And even Love again, though to a lesser extent to me because I'm not as familiar. And then Colours. They're just kind of different. And I feel like, some of those things can't be related to as easily by some fans as maybe some of her earlier lyrics or expressed as well. Especially if they're similar to any past feelings, it may be hard to express without rehashing. With all her albums though, I don't think she was necessarily feeling everything as opposed to remembering.
Hello new me is one of those songs where it really seems like she's was really feeling it lyrically. But not every song is like that. And I think she's always had songs that are more like that and some less. I think the way it's delivered influences how it seems it too. |
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In other news Itano Tomomi sold 700 copies
Remember when everybody was paranoic and bashing ayu because an AKB girl was about to outsell her? I remember someone even said that Itano album will win in the long run hahahaha |
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Those pictures are absolutely gorgeous. I like when she does pictures in that style.
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Do y'all really still need to make rude, unnecessary comments about tomomi and ayu?
We all know where their popularity and sales are and and it's fine. Nothing negative especially for fans who still like their stuff |
i reall like this album but i feel like its just missing something...
I cant really place my finger on it. I would love to know how well this did digitally |
I dont know if any of you guys are aware if this but we're facing this week one of the poorest weeks ever on Oricon Album Ranking, the #1 will hardly hit 15k... That is pretty sad.
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Yeah GIRLS' GENERATION will take the #1 spot for second time in a row
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Colours is #65 this week, sold 1,022 copies and brings a total of 50,847 copies sold so far :)
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Itano Tomomi was heavily featured, but that's it. Idols don't do that well once they graduate from their group. It didn't happen with anyone from Morning Musume (not even Maki Goto) and it won't happen with anyone from AKB48 (Maeda is more focused on acting than singing). |
Yamapi and Namie disagree...
There was no way to know how good Tomomi would do before we actually saw the sales... |
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YamaP was able to make a solo career without NEWS because of the same reason Namie was never just another member of Super Monkeys. Boygroups don't have this whole graduation thing going on so he was able to make himself relevant over a few years within the group. But bands like Momusu and AKB48 are based on a concept that makes its members totally irrelevant and just wants to introduce new members as soon as the others become boring. The only one who was able to make herself a little relevant was Goto Maki, but even she never got real fame outside of Momusu. So I think one can't compare Amuro Namie or YamaP to members of Momusu or AKB48, because the initial situation is totally different when you're a member of a group which is based on a graduation concept and not on let's say five members which won't be replaced. |
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So glad it passed the 50k mark finally!
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AKB was not Maeda and backdancers, there was a plenty of other members which can, at least, compete with her in terms of popularity, singing lines and PV spotlight. |
^that was my point ;)
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Maeda Atsuko seemed to have enough popularity and a good start but then she quit and started acting... |
I don't want to go OT but in defence of Tomomi she's a great dancer, she does have talent differently from many other acts imho. I like her a lot even though i never believed she could be a threat to ayu or whatever XD this is not meant to hype the ayu/tomomi fight discussion! But she does have talent, I hope she can be recognised a bit more in the future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y46PdMiLLe8 < |
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I'm really frustrated about the trend to call basic idols "talented"... -.- Maybe I should consider a career as an idol too, because I'm as basic (or "talented") as 99% of this idols. |
Tomomi just doesn't have 'it'. I watched one of her videos and she had no charisma or presence. Bigger problem than her singing or dancing, because she's not alone in Jpop by being bad at them.
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5th Week
Position: #65 Sales: 1,022 Total Sales: 50,847 For those that don't know.. Sorry for the delay, I've been busy with school |
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Imagine how untalented idols are nowadays that Tomomi Itano is considered to be talented against them And she loves Namie and ayu that's why her looks are similar |
6th week
Position: #95 Sales: 704 Total sales: 51,551 |
Numbers are really low this year in Japan :\ 700 copies for a top 100 release is really sad
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^I feel the same but I think it's better because the market it's not so collapsed and we get more sales updates for artists like ayu
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I see people like her and just wish they'd push A LITTLE BIT harder...try to become better at singing or try and have some creativity. She's like a blank canvas of a pop star... She could become much more interesting if she makes the right choices... |
Colours debuted at #58 in South Korea according to Gaon Monthly Albums and sold 142 copies in July ^^
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I do not get Jpop nowadays, I swear ;) |
I like Tomochin a lot because of her fashion diva image, and her songs are REALLY good. Her dancing and singing are not that good, but she definetely has a popstar aura around her. xD
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Colours is just 2,373 copies away of reaching Koda's last album
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7th Week
Position: #103 Sales: 670 Total sales: 52,221 |
yay!! another week!! just 1,703 of reaching Koda's last album
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Weren't Koda's final sales around 60k?
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It also says colorus sold a total of 52,221. I don't know much but doesn't ayu need to sell 6,955 copies to reach kumi's album?? |
Actually, I'm just hoping that Colours can outsell the mini-album "again" at least.
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oh in some site I saw she sold 53k lol
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