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^ Thank you!!! OMG, I would love a full review soon~ hehe
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ugh when is this being released again? taking forever.
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nope I wouldn't...if the song is bad, the song is bad...even if its ayu...my fav artist...I would still refuse to listen to it. |
Thank you very much TakaSama!!
I'm glad to hear you liked the show both vocally and visually and that EnergizE wasn't lip-synced. :) Can't wait for your full review! |
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Thanks for your small review TakaSama!!! I can't wait to see your full review =D
I personally HATE that we're having this lip-synching discussion again. It seems like with every video released (whether it's 4secs or 2min), somebody thinks she's lip-synching, and here we are, having another 2+ page discussion about the topic =/ Yes, she lip-syncs, we all know that, and we've all seen her do it before, so it's nothing new. It's her choice to lip-sync; if she wants to, let her do it. She sings live A LOT of the time, and that's the most important thing. I'm very excited about seeing her in Tokyo in 11 days, though! I know I won't be paying attention to whether she sings live or not. I'll just be excited about being at another Ayu concert =D |
@ TakaSama, Thanks for the report! I might just skim it because I still want to wait for the DVD to see how amazing it is. But I'm glad to hear she sang live :D
Even though I don't really care if she lip syncs, I respect her for singing live majority of the time even though she's not a great live singer. |
@ Takasama : Can't wait to see the full review, I like the short preview you wrote, hehe. ^^
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p.s. I just realized that I quoted two of your posts. Didn't realize it was the same user when I did it. |
^ We might not even get a TV version of this years concert. There wasn't one for AT05-AT07. I think the only reason they did one was because the DVD version was being taped in Taipei, and they wanted to show one of her Japanese shows... maybe. *shrugs*
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i'd really like another stadium tour....
watching the 2002 stadium tour is so much fun (even though her voice during that time wasn't very good......live.) i would have liked to gone to it haha! |
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But i guess, ayu will not lip sync unless it is absolutely necessary. i may be wrong. i duno. it's just a guess. And back to the topic of AT2009, i am happy that ayu sang live (based on what Takasama said). it's a pretty long concert and ayu had to do it at least 30 times of the same thing. It's gonna be tiring. but ayu puts in her best effort in everything she does. so i am happy. |
^yea wad u said just summed it up for EVERYONE.
cant wait to read ur review!!! |
Why didnīt post the entire review instead a short one?
Whatīs the point in let us in suspense? xD |
Thank you, TakaSama.
The DVD for this will probably be out in January or February 2010 judging by the October finale date. As for a TV version, there is only a month or so between the two legs of the tour [with the month inbetween being a-nation] but.. we could still get SOMETHING. Like a digest of clips in some sort of release.. maybe..? I always find it hilarious how when Ayu sings terribly, people are all up in arms over it and then when she sings rather well, people accuse her of using a vocal track. I don't think people are being fair, to be honest.. haha. Quote:
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Anyways I like Ayu's voice and I don't think it sucks. @ Emiko - pile of dog crap you say? Well check out the Hikki thread, that girl has already released a pile of dog crap and some people are feeding on it like crazy. Why couldn't we? :thud (don't get this the serious way and don't call the Utada-trolls) |
Thanks for the report! I'm waiting for a full review!
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njanjayrp@ you're my hero! haha
Anyways, omgosh! I'm loving NL tour so far. :D So lovely. and thanks TaKasama! ^^ Glad to hear some positives in this thread. |
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Where there is someone who hates something, there's someone who loves it. Likewise, Ayu (or anyone) could release a "masterpiece" and there are still people who will trash it. It's totally based on opinion. And popular opinion usually determines whether something's good or not. I say, if you enjoy it, you enjoy it. If you don't, you don't. The problem is people have a hard time accepting other people's opinions and other people don't make it easy by bashing/praising everything. |
This tour grows on me someway...even without watching it...I hope it will make me love NEXT LEVEL again, I kind of started disliking it...Hope for a TV version during A-Nation or something(wouldn't A-Nation and AT09 on TV right behind each other be amazing?)
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I think GUILTY was perfect to be honest. I don't care what anyone else says LOL. I think NEXT LEVEL is great also because it acts like the extreme contrast to GUILTY. It's like: Dark - GUILTY -------------(everything else)--------------- NEXT LEVEL - Light-hearted It clearly reflects everything that's been going on in her life. The GUILTY era was a dark time for her, but during NEXT LEVEL, things started looking up :) I don't think some people view the albums that way. But that's definitely how I see it. |
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^ I'LL JOIN BOTH OF U IN THAT IDEA :)
somehow GUILTY fit my life so I loved it. NEXT LEVEL offered something bright and new...which is just great |
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^me too, I love both extrems and GUILTY has a lot of great songs!
and taka-sama, i'm anxious to read your report!! AAAAAH!!! I WANT TO GO T____T WHYYY??? why I have to go to university and pay for a room this year and can't spend this money to go and see ayu's tour??? WHYYY??!! -_________- |
everytime i listen to NEXT LEVEL...i keep having that craving for a dark song to just add that spice..(and the closest would be Sparkle...for the mysterious part) LOL
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GUILT > NEXT LEVEL Just because GUILTY came closer to me and did have more variety imo. But yes both albums are great. Now Im just waiting for the middle between GUILTY and NL meaning I am...(album) pt. 2! :D |
^ OMG, perfect xD I just noticed how that describtion exactly fits I Am... and how I Am... kind of is my favourite album together with GUILTY
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I don't think we'll get a TV version for this. The break inbetween isn't long enough to warrant one.
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omg where the hell have i been i missed the whole first threads fill me in
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@Ayusan - thank you~ :love @truehappiness - Yeah, that's what I've been wondering too, but at least lip syncing parts of the songs would make more sense xD But then again, please, let's not start the whole lip syncing talk again. |
Lol. I would have to be super focused to lip sync parts of a song. Knowing when to come in and when to shut up.
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^ No, she doesnt, because its usually the chorus...also, her mic is turned off when she synchs, so she doesnt have to care at all, she just cant shout things when shes synching
@truehappiness If she uses the same playback several times...its not speculation but fact...and you are starting the discussion again, please stop it. The only "speculation" is about the end of ANGEL'S SONG, but no mic-noises for all the song and then suddenly mic-noise(and out of breath) for the last lines IS proof, because the possibility of that happenign is near 0.00000001% or something...they would have to add micnoises on the playback with a computer, but they would have done for all the song and not for the last 4 lines Takasama is speculating and letting it sound like a fact("I know she sung live because she was out of breath") but you only mind if it doesnt make ayu seem like a goddess, do you? Ayu sings live!(speculation without evidence(or however that word is written in english)) you: no comment Ayu sings playback!(speculation with evidence) you: STOP SPECULATING!!! Isnt both exactly the same? And both is possible in the same way. |
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Ayu stops performing because fans won't shut up about "speculation." Now there's something to complain about :irked Come on guys, we know she sings live, we know she lip syncs. Can we please just leave it at that and not nitpick when she does or does not lip sync. It really doesn't ****ing matter O_O; |
we're still talking about this? :laugh
there must be nothing else to talk about? |
There is, but somehow it keeps getting brought up. [via clips/reviews]
I'm rather interested in how she'll change the show post-a-nation. |
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lol but don't we have a thread for discussing whether or not she lip syncs?
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we have, but truehappiness decided to put it here, I only wanted to leave a quick comment but some overly defensive person wanted to defend ayu again...If I wrote ANGEL'S SONG PCDL0809 was live I wound not have these problems though it is a lie and this argument can be true or false from both sides xD I dont even WANT to discuss it, but I always get "attacked" directly or indirectly like tons of people going up against me that do the same all the time lol
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^you just have to remember the forum you're at...
this is why I don't really post in the Ayu Section anymore... it's not gonna change...so sometimes you just have to leave it and walk away. |
^ I might do that in the near future if people keep doing that...
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Sorry if this has been asked before or answered. But what do you guys think Ayu would you like to see Ayu change for the second leg of the tour in the fall? I haven't seen much (trying to keep it as much of a surprise as I can) but I would like... fireworks for some reason LOL. Or explosions, where there any so far?
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The only change that I really want is the ereasure of "For my dear" from the setlist. :yes |
She'll probably stick new singles into the setlist and change up some costumes.
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Yeah, some of the costumes could be altered, though she's already done that with these. And I guess she could sing a new song in the encore as she usually does, if there is a new song to sing xD
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She could replace some of the PCDL songs to switch things up.
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Yeah Im really in the mood for a late summer single since we didnt get any last year... And well yes, her summer singles are always amazing!
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I would love a new song!!
And maybe change some of the PCDL revival songs, with some new old ones to sing! I'd love Trust to be sung of some reason!! |
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I wish she remade Trust instead of You!! ><) I cant wait to hear EnergizE performed lived.. it's my favourite song from NEXT LEVEL I also cant wait how she sounds for rollin', because it's kind of a weird vocal, right? I want her to change the ballad dress into something... that is not a dress!!! Like Hanabi costume in Stadium tour, or something~~ I think she should tone down those huge dresses, and do like Stadium Tour costumes one time.. I just hope recent event won't affect her.. ><) |
i want an outfit that's really wild and different. all those so far in this tour seem to be a little generic. and if there's a summer single, i kind of hope it'll bring back some of the darkness that NEXT LEVEL was lacking.
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Sorry about this, if you don't want to get into the discussion of lip synching, please skip this post.
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More fully expounding on what I saw and heard during this song : Ayu used her cute voice, but it seemed to strain her. She would drop syllables, for example "dakara tte wake janakute" came out like "dakara __ wake janakute" because she couldn't keep up with the movement and the singing consistantly. Those syllable drops became more noticable as the song went on, and she became more out of breath. Also, the English bits of the song were louder than the rest of the singing, and therefore MAY have been lipped, but I'm tentatively attributing it to the fact that Peko/Princess were singing along. |
I hope HOPE or PAIN would be replaced with SCAR. :yes
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Usually the English segments of her songs [my HONEY!] are played by the manipulator or whoever is in charge of sound effects when the need arises for them to be played..
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I would imagine the parts of "HONEY" would be played by the sound manager, but I would think she would sing (or lip) "put your hands up together..." *shrugs*
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I love SCAR!!!! One of my favorite old-school Ayu ballads lol. |
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omg yah! SCAR is amazing! always loved that song! |
i agree i really don't like HOPE or PAIN at all lol :( SCAR would be a lot better :yes
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This tour, to me, seems like her "I stop lipsynching!" tour anyway, the only 2 songs that were doubted were EnergizE and Identity, a really small amount of songs and it seems shes singing both live now. Please notice that I never said you were lying, only that you didn't have any more or better arguments than I had, now you have and I believe you |
^Most of the time, people say a singer is lip-synching just because he/she sang good... other times, people say it was too perfect to be live just cuz they aren't trained into music, so, he/she doesn't notice some mistakes... and sometipes people thinks it wasn't live cuz they don't know how a singer can use a backtrack or backsingers to make his/her singing soundig good... I have already seen people saying that some terrible performaces by ayu were vocally great... or how you almost can't hear ayu, but can clearly hear clearly peco and princess in some heavy coreographed parts of performaces (1Love chorus)...
there are a LOT of ways of covering mistakes on singing live, lip-synching being the most extreme.... So... it's hard to tell if she was really lip-synching or not even based on reports... if you are not following an artist that openly does it, the only way u can know if he/she is not singing live, is if the singer does what ayu did on Angel's Song... So... try not being so obsessive... @_@ in the end, it's all speculation |
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can we stop the discussion on lip sync? :)
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Goodness... it seems like people are ARGUING over this.
It's like I keep saying: Ayu CHOOSES to lip-sync! She's not perfect. If she wants to lip-sync, let her do it. |
For a second I thought this thread was about Ayumi's new tour. I must have been wrong. O_o
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It was, but somehow lipsynching discussion keeps getting involved.
Can the mods do something about it? Hmm.. |
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I don't know why, but that made me laugh so hard xD; Must be afternoon goofiness lol. |
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What about your messages under the spoiler I can agree but... Spoiler:
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My profile thing to the left OVER THERE says I'm male, so can you not?
I thought we stopped discussing this ages ago. |
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SCAR @ PCDL was amazing!! her vocals were really good in it and it made me love the song even more :heart |
Am I the only one that loves Hope and Pain? :( Ever since she sung that in PDCL, I'm in love with it.
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HOPE or PAIN is a good song, but it's rather pale in comparison to Liar and HAPPY ENDING.
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I think HOPE or PAIN to be way better than Liar ! Happy Ending is great too, but HoP is more moving (especially the lyrics !) imo !
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^^ I LOVE HOPE or PAIN. I think it's the violins! :)
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I really like HOPE or PAIN more than HAPPY ENDING actually, the chorus feels much stronger.
Speaking about Liar, I wonder what are the chances for us to ever see that one performed? D: Really one of her most underrated songs, right? |
Probably in the coming CDL or the next tour.
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^ You think so? I'd like to hear momentum at the CDL too! Even if it's just something simple in the encore! :(
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I would love to see ayu perform daybreak again..such a great song!
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It requires REALLY soft vocals, and then the high pitches in the chorus.. I dont think she can do that right now.. T_T |
Well, she already had it as a concert opener. Generally concert openers are doomed after the tour that features them [HAPPY ENDING, Born To Be.., t2m, Rule]
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^ Hahaha. I think HOPE or PAIN is a really beautiful song, but my favorite of the "hated trio" in MY STORY is Liar... ^^
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