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ayumisrael 4th September 2009 04:56 PM

Karen, you wrote upside that its, Sunrise/Sunset's 3rd week, it's the 4th now. XD

KarenPang 4th September 2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2083506)
Karen, you wrote upside that its, Sunrise/Sunset's 3rd week, it's the 4th now. XD

:dead2

oops sorry , my bad . I think this means I should go to bed early & before doing so , take a shower xD

ayumisrael 4th September 2009 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 2083508)
:dead2

oops sorry , my bad . I think this means I should go to bed early & before doing so , take a shower xD

LMAO, it's nothing major. xD Just fixed hehe.
We love to be accurate Karen :yes

sanzo2011 4th September 2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 2083448)

Ichibu to Zenbu / DIVE is an amazing single
I don't see anything wrong with it . It's just that at the end of the day , the single's great & also they're going to cross 300K next week & the single was only released in 1 edition :innocent

u're right ! it's really a good single ! i don't like B'z but i have to admit that :yes

ayumisrael 4th September 2009 07:37 PM

Fourth Week 4th Day
Position: #19
Sales: 634
Total Sales: 102,665

darc_aqua 4th September 2009 11:41 PM

I'm sorry I'm a really loyal AYU fan but I feel like I'm the least excited about this single. To be honest, it was a bit disappointing because I didn't feel it (whatever you take that as). But I guess a lot of people still like it. So now I'm looking forward to the tour DVD.

jbrat2219 5th September 2009 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by darc_aqua (Post 2083848)
I'm sorry I'm a really loyal AYU fan but I feel like I'm the least excited about this single. To be honest, it was a bit disappointing because I didn't feel it (whatever you take that as). But I guess a lot of people still like it. So now I'm looking forward to the tour DVD.

I feel the same way now. I was excited for it, and I liked it... but the feeling didn't last... :no

Announce a new release already Ayu lol.

zyoeru 5th September 2009 03:08 AM

I'm holding out for an album...but I also want a MAJOR Asia tour next year...Ach! I don't know. LOL
But the sales are okay I guess for the fourth week. <3

Lady_Eowyn 5th September 2009 03:16 AM

Yeah... this time i don't like the EP. I didn't really feel it, so i don't really mind how it goes this time...

i want a new singe LOL :P

waterballoon 5th September 2009 03:46 AM

lol as time goes by... this is like the only 2 Ayu songs I don't intensively listen to... usually I do that for her new songs, but this time... it must be because of the other singers I listen to lol.

TITANIC 5th September 2009 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2083473)
^ lol they're so lucky... like seriously I'm kinda peeved at how Ayu never gets the right dramas

yeap.. I think only Endless Sorrow did well but I dont think it's all because tie-in drama but its all because Ayu in her peak moment..
xixixi

poor Ayu in tie-in

jbrat2219 5th September 2009 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2083985)
lol as time goes by... this is like the only 2 Ayu songs I don't intensively listen to... usually I do that for her new songs, but this time... it must be because of the other singers I listen to lol.

Yeah I know what you mean! I feel like I haven't heard Ayu in AGES because I don't listen to this single that much at all...

PEARL 5th September 2009 07:24 AM

so its 13th this week?

ayu-marco 5th September 2009 08:38 AM

i really like Sunrise/Sunset!!!
It is the best ayu single recently~

njanjayrp 5th September 2009 09:14 AM

#19 with 634 my god, the single sales are gradually dying...

ayumisrael 5th September 2009 12:07 PM

Fourth Week 5th Day
Position: #17

keikeiaznqueen 5th September 2009 12:48 PM

I wonder how much the 200th single is selling. XD Like, 10 copies.

Crystal_Ageha 5th September 2009 01:08 PM

^ Probably. XD

You know, thinking back, I guess I was really only excited for this single for, like, a day or something, lol. :\ Then again, I'm never big on summer singles. So whatever. I want some new songs, too!! (We're so greedy, hah. :headache)

ayumisrael 5th September 2009 01:10 PM

Well we should have a new single announcement until the middle of October tops.
Probably, we just need to wait some more. ^^

ayuayu798 5th September 2009 01:58 PM

Yeah! I can't wait! I love her fall/winter stuff!

spanishfan 5th September 2009 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keikeiaznqueen (Post 2084623)
I wonder how much the 200th single is selling. XD Like, 10 copies.

Hey, I REALLY want to know LOL

S/S is doing really well, hope it could sell 120k, it's difficult but i think it could.

zyoeru 5th September 2009 06:10 PM

Yeah, I think S/S is doing pretty well. I would like a happy winter song that is as far away from Days as you can get. :\

waterballoon 5th September 2009 06:33 PM

^ I don't want another Days... it stays unique and special in my heart forever. Maybe a rock single? Lol, that's the "in" thing in autumn. XD

KarenPang 5th September 2009 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2084956)
Maybe a rock single? Lol, that's the "in" thing in autumn. XD

really are you sure ? o_O

well regardless of which , I just want another new single . I frankly am open to any kind of music genres that she will be doing next for a new one :laugh

waterballoon 5th September 2009 06:37 PM

^ She can pull off any genre after all! XD

And yeah... I thought autumn's rock, and summer is all sugary pop, and then winter is the ballads... haha

Crystal_Ageha 5th September 2009 06:39 PM

^ I'm all for another rock song from Ayu!!! :love I'm more of a rock person in the first place, but I think Ayumi pulls it off surprisingly well. (Yes, I'm a huge fan of GUILTY, hah.)

do it again 5th September 2009 07:41 PM

i'd love another pop-rock song like STEP you! maybe even something like NEVER EVER.
her last rock song that i really liked besides Mirrorcle World (that should be in a genre of its own, it has so many elements) was talkin' 2 myself, i was disappointed by Rule.
marionette is a pretty good rock track, too.

brener 5th September 2009 07:42 PM

Yay~ 2 positions up!!

ayumisrael 5th September 2009 08:31 PM

Fourth Week 5th Day
Position: #17
Sales: 554
Total Sales: 103,219

zyoeru 6th September 2009 12:49 AM

It's holding its place relatively well...

For the next single, I'd not like a rock song or a ballad tbh. But idk. XD

Ayumiko 6th September 2009 01:04 AM

I want a unique rock song like alterna and a dramatic sad ballad for ayu's next single.

ストロボ・EdGE 6th September 2009 01:06 AM

I wonder how long it will be until we get a new single. S/S came out after NL pretty fast so I wonder if she'll wait a little while.

I want an EPIC song like Mirrorcle World or GREEN!

ayumisrael 6th September 2009 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 2085101)
I wonder how long it will be until we get a new single. S/S came out after NL pretty fast so I wonder if she'll wait a little while.

I want an EPIC song like Mirrorcle World or GREEN!

It was released almost half a year after NEXT LEVEL. XD
It's not ages but not so close. ^^

ストロボ・EdGE 6th September 2009 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2085131)
It was released almost half a year after NEXT LEVEL. XD
It's not ages but not so close. ^^

...NEXT LEVEL was released March 25th and S/S was released August 12th, only 4 1/2 months after which is not that much ( :P ).

freedreamer 6th September 2009 04:13 AM

She has had winter ballads in September...My guess is that her new single will only drop in November after her whole NL tour is done...and before CDL. (she really hasnt been updating us with new info abt the new song recordings huh?)

Actually, I see a ballad coming for this winter. I want something like No way to say! Rock ballad...

omably 6th September 2009 04:14 AM

Wow. So surprised this single hit 100k.

do it again 6th September 2009 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 2085239)
Actually, I see a ballad coming for this winter. I want something like No way to say! Rock ballad...

i love No way to say so much!

since the single is only selling a few hundred copies a day, i wonder if it'll hit 110k.

zyoeru 6th September 2009 04:52 AM

Maybe in like...another fifty years. :\

do it again 6th September 2009 04:54 AM

it'll take like 2 weeks if it can hold a minimum of 500 copies daily. :(

ayumisrael 6th September 2009 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 2085227)
...NEXT LEVEL was released March 25th and S/S was released August 12th, only 4 1/2 months after which is not that much ( :P ).

Oh right it was released on March.
I'm used to ayu's December/January releases. lol
I hope there will be a new album in those months.

TITANIC 6th September 2009 11:21 AM

I dont think she can pull out an album on dec or january if she doesnt release next single on noverber at least

Namie♡TOP SECRET 6th September 2009 12:00 PM

I would like a single with a rock song and a winter ballad and a cover.

我的秘密 / 私を愛していますか。(My Secret / Do You Love Me?)

1. 我的秘密 (My Secret)
2. 私を愛していますか。(Do You Love Me?)
3. 最後のクリスマス (Japanese Last Christmas Cover)*
4. 我的秘密儀器 (My Secret Instrumental)
5. 私を愛していますか。 インストルメンタル (Do You Love Me? Instrumental)
6. 最後のクリスマス インストルメンタル (Last Christmas Instrumental)*

DVD:
1. 我的秘密 (PV)
2. 私を愛していますか。 (PV)
3. 最後のクリスマス (PV)*
4. 我的秘密 (製作 PV)
5. 私を愛していますか。 (作りの PV)
6. 最後のクリスマス (作りの PV)*

*First Press Bonus

S/S could pass 120K :thud?

ayumisrael 6th September 2009 12:28 PM

Fourth Week 6th Day
Position: #14

SURREAL__RAINBOW 6th September 2009 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2085582)
Fourth Week 6th Day
Position: #14

thank you :):)

njanjayrp 6th September 2009 12:45 PM

Ayu doesn't need covers ^^ An epic ballad (something that doesn't sound like Days) paired with a melodic rock song would be great for November/December, but I am sure we'll get at least one single prior to the end of the year as usual.

ayuayu798 6th September 2009 02:02 PM

^ I totally agree!

ayumisrael 6th September 2009 05:37 PM

Fourth Week 6th Day
Position: #14
Sales: 651
Total Sales: 103,870

waterballoon 6th September 2009 05:40 PM

^ Thanks! I guess it will stop charting at like... 105k or something.

ayumisrael 6th September 2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2085806)
^ Thanks! I guess it will stop charting at like... 105k or something.

I don't think so...
It might be something like this:

4th Week: around 3900 (103,500)
5th Week: around 1600 (105,100)
6th Week: around 1100 (106,200)
7th Week: around 900 (107,100)
8th Week: around 750 (107,850)
9th Week: around 550 (108,500)

And then it will stop but it's just an estimation, nothing important. =P

waterballoon 6th September 2009 05:54 PM

Ah yes, I just thought the sales would drop to 0 after this week... well 108k is an ugly number! 110k please! :P

Andrenekoi 6th September 2009 06:30 PM

Why does people think she is going to drop from top 20 to out of the chart on one week? o_O Her sales drop fast, but not THIS fast

waterballoon 6th September 2009 06:32 PM

^ Because um... I suck at predicting sales X_X

brener 6th September 2009 06:58 PM

Yay! for #14 position and for the 100 copies increase!!

do it again 6th September 2009 07:25 PM

saturday's sales... today's will be lower, hopefully not by much! same with monday.

Masamune 6th September 2009 10:44 PM

I am happy that finally reached the 100K copies...but I think that will not outsell "talking to myself",in my opinion one of the best singles of Ayu but not the best seller that the single worth...

Thanks for all the info regarding sales updated!!!:)

Olw---A 7th September 2009 01:06 AM

her last album is amazing even if most of the single doesn't fit... I think she should take more risk and break her usual formula trying something less comercial and doing some unexpected things !

zyoeru 7th September 2009 02:27 AM

^ I can't help but agree, but then we'd have the Bold & Delicious problem on our hands. :P

I'm just glad it's rose to 14. :P

joshohhhhh 7th September 2009 03:55 AM

I loved Bold & Delicious! :p

zyoeru 7th September 2009 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshohhhhh (Post 2086325)
I loved Bold & Delicious! :p

So do I, but it wasn't really popular in general, was it? :\

Crystal_Ageha 7th September 2009 05:53 AM

^ I really liked Bold & Delicious, actually. Awesome vocals. :) Except the "break down" bridge in the middle of the song (where the chick starts screaming YEEAAAAHHH!!) really annoys me, lol. And the PV sucks butt. >_>' But it's actually one of the few samples Ayu did where I didn't like the sweetbox version better.

But yeah.. Yay for the slight raise in sales!! ^.^

dawnss 7th September 2009 06:25 AM

Yay for the raise in sales to. I do not know about the expermentation though, because Next Level was different and the reviews were very mixed so maybe Ayu should take a break and not release anything for a while.

Andrenekoi 7th September 2009 08:42 AM

So it's like... "if the tries something new, she may sell bad, so, she should keep re-using safe stuff"? o_O

njanjayrp 7th September 2009 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawnss (Post 2086422)
Yay for the raise in sales to. I do not know about the expermentation though, because Next Level was different and the reviews were very mixed so maybe Ayu should take a break and not release anything for a while.

I think it's safe to say we shouldn't expect her to not release stuff, Japan doesn't really work that way, if she would stop making music, she'd loose the fans she has now, as the majority would move on to someone else. You get very mixed "reviews" and opinions for almost everything, the success of NEXT LEVEL had a lot to do with how popular she is atm and not with the fact that it was "experimental" (cuz I don't think it was that much as people are trying to make it seem).

Olw---A 7th September 2009 09:42 AM

well NEXT LEVEL is not "experimental" compared to what the music industry offers right now but I really didn't expect Ayu to give me an album like this... especially after the singles...

I mean she should try to work like overseas : doing a whole album in a good and strong concept and then pick up singles to sale it and not the contrary (makin singles for winter and summer and then try to find songs to link them in an album)

Kazeyomi 7th September 2009 09:59 AM

^
uhm I don't think she will doing it. Japanese music industry works like that (single -> album) D:

btw I think that she needs to work hard on her lyrics, they sounds.. all the sames? lol
Them are pretty important as the melody :yes it would help the sales, I guess.

KarenPang 7th September 2009 12:11 PM

Sunrise/Sunset went up to #10 today - http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/d/

AyuGAME 7th September 2009 12:20 PM

going up...up...up!!!

TITANIC 7th September 2009 12:27 PM

wooow.. nice boost

SURREAL__RAINBOW 7th September 2009 01:07 PM

i don't wanna see on Wednesday xD any big releases by then??

njanjayrp 7th September 2009 01:57 PM

Ah I wonder if the sales went up a bit at least.

noidea 7th September 2009 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olw---A (Post 2086562)
I mean she should try to work like overseas : doing a whole album in a good and strong concept and then pick up singles to sale it and not the contrary (makin singles for winter and summer and then try to find songs to link them in an album)

thats a horrible release shedule! I hate it, singles are nothing to look forward to that way and you can't release albums in cd+dvd with pvs directly, so there will be rereleases, the different japanese release pattern is one of the reason i like the japanese industry more

ayumisrael 7th September 2009 02:22 PM

Thanks for the update. ^^
Back to the top 10 =D

KarenPang 7th September 2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2086716)
i don't wanna see on Wednesday xD any big releases by then??

I know that KinKi Kids's Domoto Tsuyoshi will be releasing his 3rd solo single under his real name called RAIN this coming Wed

It better be a good one :P

waterballoon 7th September 2009 03:31 PM

Sunrise did well while it lasted. :)

ayumisrael 7th September 2009 03:56 PM

Fourth Week 7th Day
Position: #10
Sales: 823
Total Sales: 104,693

4th Week Estimation
Position: #14
Sales: 5,073
Total Sales: 104,693

If it will be like the last 2 weeks around 800-900 less from the estimation it means around 4,100-4,200 for the 4th week. ^^

aloopy 7th September 2009 03:57 PM

so this single won't outsell talkin' 2 myself?

i'm surprised, even though t2m>s/s imo, but i thought that the japanese people would love this single.

hoping for a new rock song this fall/witner :yes

waterballoon 7th September 2009 04:07 PM

^ Well even 3 SPLASH couldn't break 100k... like omg what happened to the "standard" summer singles.

TITANIC 7th September 2009 05:07 PM

it's awesome if on 4th week S/S can sell 5K at least.usually her sales for next week always half of before.

ayumisrael 7th September 2009 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aloopy (Post 2086792)
so this single won't outsell talkin' 2 myself?

i'm surprised, even though t2m>s/s imo, but i thought that the japanese people would love this single.

hoping for a new rock song this fall/witner :yes

It has a good chance to outsell talkin' 2 myself actually.
It just depends on the drops between the next weeks.

Crystal_Ageha 7th September 2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2086790)
Fourth Week 7th Day
Position: #10
Sales: 823
Total Sales: 104,693

4th Week Estimation
Position: #14
Sales: 5,073
Total Sales: 104,693

If it will be like the last 2 weeks around 800-900 less from the estimation it means around 4,100-4,200 for the 4th week. ^^

OH MY GOD. I read too fast, and I thought the weekly estimate was her total daily sales, and I was like OMFG YESYESYES!!!!!!!!!!!!! :tipsy ......And then I realised, lol. What a letdown. D': Sales ARE still up though, so yay for that. ^^'

Ayu_Ready 7th September 2009 07:10 PM

I'm glad she came back in top 10 but I think around 900copies and she is 10th... it's not a lot what is doing the first ? =/

brener 7th September 2009 08:25 PM

Yay for the #10 position but... really, its sales won't overpass t2m.

Crystal_Ageha 7th September 2009 08:52 PM

^ That's fine with me, actually. I like talkin' 2 myself much more than Sunrise and Sunset put together. ^_^' Considering both the quality of the single and the situation of music sales, I think this single did exactly how it should have. talkin' 2 myself, on the other hand.... ;_;

joshohhhhh 7th September 2009 10:19 PM

Weren't t2m's sales final sales like 108k or something like that? How will S/S not pass it? It's still selling at least 4k a week. Wouldn't it need like only one or two more weeks to pass it?

Ayumiko 7th September 2009 10:20 PM

talkin' 2 myself sold 108,347 copies according to wiki. Sunrise/Sunset is at estimated 104,693 copies. I think S/S should outsell talkin' 2 myself...I don't see why not since its still in the top 20.

aloopy 7th September 2009 11:14 PM

i thought talkin' 2 myself sold over 120k =o
lol.

it really deserved to sell more than 108k. i love that song.
in fact, i'm gonna listen to it right now

love in music 7th September 2009 11:42 PM

so maybe not 120k afterall.. i think it will make it over talkin' 2 myself though.
even though summer is almost over, i still love this single. with glitter/fated i got tired of glitter real quick, but both songs on here i still listen to daily and don't get tired of them :cool
it deserved better sales imo. but these aren't bad. i'm glad she's still making it over 100k with singles, some female artists have trouble even making it over that.

zyoeru 8th September 2009 12:01 AM

In my opinion, S/S deserves to outsell t2m and I don't see why it won't.

rakeru 8th September 2009 01:22 AM

eek... i'm hoping that S/S is a fluke like t2m. after that, GUILTY sold decently and then MW did well. i'm hoping that the next single will go back to R/S levels. or maybe i'm naive.

Crystal_Ageha 8th September 2009 05:06 AM

^ Not naive, just hopeful. :P To be honest, though, I don't think this was too much of a fluke, considering NEXT LEVEL's sales... I think the next releases will have slightly higher sales though.

AyuFreax 8th September 2009 09:33 AM

i hope it will reach 100.000 ...

ayumisrael 8th September 2009 11:04 AM

Official 4th Week
Position: #16
Official Sales: 4,550
Official Total Sales: 103,811

Just 3 positions down since last week's position and the drop is less than 50%!

S/S's 4th week is higher both in sales and positions from Days/GREEN's and Rule/Sparkle's 4th weeks .^^

talkin' 2 myself sold in 4 weeks 101,702.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 8th September 2009 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2087667)
Official 4th Week
Position: #16
Official Sales: 4,550
Official Total Sales: 103,811

Just 3 positions down since last week's position and the drop is less than 50%!

S/S's 4th week is higher both in sales and positions from Days/GREEN's and Rule/Sparkle's 4th weeks .^^

talkin' 2 myself sold in 4 weeks 101,702.


sounds cool ^ ^ thanks!

njanjayrp 8th September 2009 12:16 PM

Thanks Tal, considering everything it shouldn't be hard to beat talkin' 2 myself's sales.

ayumisrael 8th September 2009 12:24 PM

Yep hopefully. ^^ You're welcome!

5th Week First Day
Position: #8

AyuGAME 8th September 2009 12:35 PM

^wow..thanks for the update
hopefully s/s has a longevity and can sell at least 125k in the end

Ayu_Ready 8th September 2009 01:56 PM

125k I think it won't reach it but I hope whatever !

Crystal_Ageha 8th September 2009 02:18 PM

#8? Not bad. :)

KarenPang 8th September 2009 02:35 PM

125K seems like a long shot to me , I say I wait for Sunrise/Sunset to hit 105K 1st since it's more realistic

& with that , a 3rd thread's needed :laugh

njanjayrp 8th September 2009 02:43 PM

It shouldn't sell more than 115k ^_^


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