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AngelSenshi 17th July 2010 07:08 PM
^ It's definitely a wonderful song, and I'd love to hear it performed with her current voice. The acappella a while back was beautiful and so I'd love a full performance.

I really believe it wasn't included due to time constraints, possibly with costume changes and stuff like that.

Is it just me or is this the first time that the count down wasn't half way through a song? Could that be a factor?

ohsixthirty 17th July 2010 08:59 PM
i generally don't like her cutesy parts in concerts, but this time i actually didn't mind it. maybe because i really like energize! i seriously want to get up and dance around the room just watching her.

too bad about far away. its also one of my favorite songs.

AngelSenshi 17th July 2010 09:16 PM
^ I really don't mind her cutesy songs and performances in concerts; I think they're loads of fun. I guess for starters I don't really think about age and what is appropriate for her age and what isn't.

I originally didn't like EnergizE when NL first came out but I began to like it by bit; for the live I seriously enjoyed it! I got all bouncy and cheerful and it's nowhere near the type of music I'm usually into.

primavera♥ 17th July 2010 09:59 PM
I love the cute performances....EnergizE was one of my fav performances. The performance exagerrated the feel of the song
How can someone say cutesy is just not ayu? How often has mentioned not feeling like an. Adult and not growing up. Plus all the adorable TA diaries she writes...I don't see why it comes as a surprise to some fans. U act like she walk around as a goth.
I'm not saying for everyone to like it. Justt wondering why some people say its not the real ayu. And its ageist to say its not age appropriate. 30 year old women can't be cute?

I also liked You were..., I am..., About You, Because of You ( :heart ), Pride

I am... Was so beautiful....but my mind just exploded at BoY it was fantastic. And always a fav ayu song of mine


T.T far away really? That wouldve been great. T.T (remembers AT08)

PoetGirl 17th July 2010 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AngelSenshi (Post 2429593)
^ I really don't mind her cutesy songs and performances in concerts; I think they're loads of fun. I guess for starters I don't really think about age and what is appropriate for her age and what isn't.

I originally didn't like EnergizE when NL first came out but I began to like it by bit; for the live I seriously enjoyed it! I got all bouncy and cheerful and it's nowhere near the type of music I'm usually into.
At first I didnt like EnergizE at all, I HATED IT, I thought its too stupid,
but while listenin' to NL over and over again I just found it cool, and now
I really love it. Its so fun, its even one of my fav tracks on NL, even I liked
whole NL! I love that album :luv2

AngelSenshi 17th July 2010 10:32 PM
^ As I've mentioned in the past, Ayu is the only jpop, or pop music in general really, that I actually listen to. I'm usually into jrock most of all, and rock music generally so Ayu really is quite different for me in a way so most of NL came as a bit of a shock to me, and I didn't know how to handle it. But bit by bit I got into NL and I grew to really like it actually. EnergizE was one of the last songs for me to get used to but I really don't mind the performance, and I thought it was so cute! I also really like the song now but I don't play it much.

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I love the cute performances....EnergizE was one of my fav performances. The performance exagerrated the feel of the song
How can someone say cutesy is just not ayu? How often has mentioned not feeling like an. Adult and not growing up. Plus all the adorable TA diaries she writes...I don't see why it comes as a surprise to some fans. U act like she walk around as a goth.
I'm not saying for everyone to like it. Justt wondering why some people say its not the real ayu. And its ageist to say its not age appropriate. 30 year old women can't be cute?
Agreed. Ayu is generally cute in nature so I don't see why people take it as such a surprise that she's got such performances. It's okay if its overdone, its a concert after all, it's supposed to be fun and over the top and that bit of the concert sort of fit the 'circus' theme that she was preparing us for with that CDL.

I hope that turning 30 means you shouldn't be cute anymore, or that there's something sort of way a 30 year old should be because good chance I won't fit into it, and I might as well kill myself in the next few years then.

love in music 18th July 2010 02:21 AM
I like EnergizE as a song, but I don't really like it live tbh. They add too many of the English parts near the end of it and it just goes on for too long in my opinion.

maikaru 18th July 2010 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AngelSenshi (Post 2429632)
^ As I've mentioned in the past, Ayu is the only jpop, or pop music in general really, that I actually listen to. I'm usually into jrock most of all, and rock music generally so Ayu really is quite different for me in a way so most of NL came as a bit of a shock to me, and I didn't know how to handle it. But bit by bit I got into NL and I grew to really like it actually. EnergizE was one of the last songs for me to get used to but I really don't mind the performance, and I thought it was so cute! I also really like the song now but I don't play it much.



Agreed. Ayu is generally cute in nature so I don't see why people take it as such a surprise that she's got such performances. It's okay if its overdone, its a concert after all, it's supposed to be fun and over the top and that bit of the concert sort of fit the 'circus' theme that she was preparing us for with that CDL.

I hope that turning 30 means you shouldn't be cute anymore, or that there's something sort of way a 30 year old should be because good chance I won't fit into it, and I might as well kill myself in the next few years then.
She always says that she doesn't think of herself as a child, and always refers to her band as "the adults", so I am totally not surprised!

alternarist 18th July 2010 09:12 AM
the angles are better. But i felt that they manipulated ayu's voice too much that it sounds so perfect. There is not even one bit of raw-ness in ayu's voice.

AND THEY REMOVED THE outro of You were... :(

love in music 18th July 2010 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by alternarist (Post 2430069)
the angles are better. But i felt that they manipulated ayu's voice too much that it sounds so perfect. There is not even one bit of raw-ness in ayu's voice.

AND THEY REMOVED THE outro of You were... :(
Really? I felt like they didn't sound too perfect at all and still had that rawness. The editing all sounded natural to me and just like they touched up her vocals a bit here and there where they needed it the most.

I was disappointed about them editing out the outro to You were... too. I wouldn't mind them cutting out one of the tissue dances to keep that in :(

AngelSenshi 18th July 2010 12:11 PM
^ I also felt like her voice was done quite nicely; I didn't think it was overly edited or anything of the sort, and there was still a great rawness in there, my faves (that come to mind right away) around About You, Pride and Because of You.

I don't remember seeing the You were... outro so somehow I can't be too disappointed about it but yeah, I guess usually I like almost everything in there. It would've been nice it was there, surely.

nanakopy87 18th July 2010 04:41 PM
can i say that i hate Moments performance?i hate her voice when she's singing the last word of the lyric.
like,
Quote:
kaze no you ni nagareru no nara
kimi no soba ni tadoritsuku deshou
tsuki no you ni kagayakeru nara
kimi o terashitsuzukeru deshou
the kaze no,kimi no,tsuki no and kimi o


its annoying

SURREAL__RAINBOW 18th July 2010 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by nanakopy87 (Post 2430434)
can i say that i hate Moments performance?i hate her voice when she's singing the last word of the lyric.
like,

the kaze no,kimi no,tsuki no and kimi o


its annoying
actually me too lol it sounds weird...

nanakopy87 18th July 2010 04:50 PM
i'm not alone =D
its so unnatural :P
i like AT05 performance alot! XD

SURREAL__RAINBOW 18th July 2010 04:54 PM
lol yea she is having trouble with the high notes.

the high notes in Because of You's chorus sound weird too. And Pride.

nanakopy87 18th July 2010 04:57 PM
oh.i watch Pride a little bit only.so far so good.i haven't watch BoY yet.can't wait to watch it.XD

SURREAL__RAINBOW 18th July 2010 05:01 PM
is just one part with pride... when she sings toki, ki sounds so weird XD

Catzi 18th July 2010 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2430084)
I was disappointed about them editing out the outro to You were... too. I wouldn't mind them cutting out one of the tissue dances to keep that in :(
I am so sick of the tissue dances too. It's like every concert now. Just stop.

truehappiness 19th July 2010 01:17 AM
I actually like the tissue dances...

I prefer them usually over the dancers just flailing for a few minutes. I also like the BGM that usually goes along with them. Days' outro from AT09 was just... amazing.

maikaru 19th July 2010 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2430445)
lol yea she is having trouble with the high notes.

the high notes in Because of You's chorus sound weird too. And Pride.
Actually, Pride is not a high key song... it's pretty pretty low for her... almost uncomfortable.
The verses in Pride are really good, but when it gets to the chorus... =[


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