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pommy48 24th November 2014 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 3105846)
I think that would actually make for a really nice tour schedule. The design of the stage will have to be such that it can be easily moved (which is one of the reasons why they only held Premium Showcase in three cities) since she'll need to take it overseas. Hopefully tour dates will be announced soon and we'll have a better idea of what she's up to!

Now, everything kind of made sense as to why she did them in the past year. She tested with PREMIUM SHOWCASE to see if she can still hold quality concerts with fewer dates. She went to Singapore instead of Taiwan for a-nation to probably test her popularity.


And to those that want her to tour the US and Europe...it took her this long to actually want to extend into Asia as a whole, so the other continents will just have to wait :laugh

Minttulatte 24th November 2014 01:22 PM

I don't mind. If she doesn't want to perform, I'm not losing my sleep because of it. And maybe this year's CDL will be more interesting than the ones in 2012 and 2013. I haven't felt that interested in those since HOTEL Love songs CDL which was amazing in my eyes. I did watch few clips from those tho, but they made me feel meh, which isn't a good sign. :<

Kuronekomi 24th November 2014 09:18 PM

well I guess that last year was the last kouhaku for me :(
now only idols, boyband and enka. Ayu was the only reason to watch it

hayasaki 24th November 2014 09:37 PM

i'm actually happy that Ayu has finally decided not to participate in Kohaku. There are just idols, boybands and enka in that event and Ayu is a different thing. Though its an exposure, i wonder how the ratings will change now that the opener for 15 freaking years is gone. <3

mizuki-7 24th November 2014 10:26 PM

^
She is the opener since 2008 not before ^^ lol
Here is the rating for the different openers since the past ten years and you can see Ayu had the best rating :) (big drop for the last year but I think this kohaku had less good audiences overall)

2002年 藤本美贵 30.3%
2003年 BoA 31.1%
2004年 上户彩 31.1%
2005年 细川高志 30.2%
2006年 大和美姬丸 23.5%
2007年 早安特别队 26.2%
2008年 滨崎步 31.8%
2009年 滨崎步 33.7%
2010年 滨崎步 37.0%
2011年 滨崎步 34.9%
2012年 滨崎步 32.1%
2013年 滨崎步 26.7%

TeamAyu2004 24th November 2014 10:27 PM

I wonder why she felt so much pressure in doing it?
I mean artist come and go all the time... I wonder why she felt like she had to do it for so long?

ExodusUK 24th November 2014 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 3105944)
I wonder why she felt so much pressure in doing it?
I mean artist come and go all the time... I wonder why she felt like she had to do it for so long?

I guess a sense of obligation/duty/expectations for her fans and status...I respect her for...


Time to throw everything away and start again.

hayasaki 24th November 2014 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 3105943)
^
She is the opener since 2008 not before ^^ lol
Here is the rating for the different openers since the past ten years and you can see Ayu had the best rating :) (big drop for the last year but I think this kohaku had less good audiences overall)

LOL Thanks for correcting me. Anyway, its just time for a new beggining. :)

FoxyPinkGirl 25th November 2014 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pommy48 (Post 3105877)
Now, everything kind of made sense as to why she did them in the past year. She tested with PREMIUM SHOWCASE to see if she can still hold quality concerts with fewer dates. She went to Singapore instead of Taiwan for a-nation to probably test her popularity.


And to those that want her to tour the US and Europe...it took her this long to actually want to extend into Asia as a whole, so the other continents will just have to wait :laugh

but she toured Asia already, TWICE, in 2007 and 2008! so you're incorrect. I'm pretty peeved that she's ignoring us fans in the US and Europe constantly, yet she lives in LA. :grumpy

Linoa62 25th November 2014 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FoxyPinkGirl (Post 3105972)
but she toured Asia already, TWICE, in 2007 and 2008! so you're incorrect. I'm pretty peeved that she's ignoring us fans in the US and Europe constantly, yet she lives in LA. :grumpy

pommy said "extend into Asia as a whole". Back in 2007 and 2008 she only had a couple of dates in Taipei, Shanghai and Hong Kong... That's not really the whole of Asia.

rusuke 25th November 2014 03:29 PM

It's like Ayu is already a Kouhaku tradition and I feel like it's not enough if she's not performing there. But I care less because I can't watch Kouhaku anyway, unfortunately. So let her concentrate more on live performances. :-)

Polyrhythm 25th November 2014 03:32 PM

It's about 8 years too late for any sort of US show...She'd just be throwing money out the door. Even Utada who was actually somewhat relevant in the states had to use her own money to do her tiny, stripped down tour. It'd be a nice gesture for Ayu to do something like that for her fans but she's in no way obligated. The point of seeing Ayu's shows is for those great visuals so unless she's playing the Staples or something...it'd be pointless for all sides to have a US show. Now Europe, I can definitely picture that happening. They just seem more receptive of international acts.

pommy48 25th November 2014 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxyPinkGirl (Post 3105972)
but she toured Asia already, TWICE, in 2007 and 2008! so you're incorrect. I'm pretty peeved that she's ignoring us fans in the US and Europe constantly, yet she lives in LA. :grumpy

I think you need to understand her main audience is Japan/Asia. She can say all the "I'll go anywhere where people want to hear my music", that doesn't mean she'll actually do it. She still has to do what's profitable. We should just appreciate that she is branching out more.

Why does she live in LA? Other than for her marriage, she likes that she can go out without having to worry about paparazzi or fans. She can live the life she wants in LA, so don't confuse her personal life with her work.

And to be honest, she probably didn't even realize she had such a huge international fanbase until the recent few years. We can see that she's more receptive of us now, so just let time take its course.

Bigtop 26th November 2014 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rusuke (Post 3106048)
It's like Ayu is already a Kouhaku tradition and I feel like it's not enough if she's not performing there. But I care less because I can't watch Kouhaku anyway, unfortunately. So let her concentrate more on live performances. :-)

Why you can't watch Kouhaku?

njanjayrp 26th November 2014 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyrhythm (Post 3106049)
It's about 8 years too late for any sort of US show...She'd just be throwing money out the door. Even Utada who was actually somewhat relevant in the states had to use her own money to do her tiny, stripped down tour. It'd be a nice gesture for Ayu to do something like that for her fans but she's in no way obligated. The point of seeing Ayu's shows is for those great visuals so unless she's playing the Staples or something...it'd be pointless for all sides to have a US show. Now Europe, I can definitely picture that happening. They just seem more receptive of international acts.

No. That's far beyond the point. Ayu does not need heavy visuals. Take a look at her a-nation performances...

mecury2511 5th December 2014 01:49 PM

She's going to held concert in Asia again, maybe another Asia tour, so saving money now, I also only watch Kouhaku because of ayu, it's getting bored now...

Bigtop 5th December 2014 11:57 PM

She's in this year's Music Station Super Live, at least that's a consolation for her not going to the Kouhaku...

adantatu2 6th December 2014 01:19 AM

^Amen bro !!!

Pieces_of_SEVEN 6th December 2014 02:27 PM

Yeah, I'd definitely take MS over kouhaku any day!

Mai82Go 6th December 2014 08:07 PM

Well this is new. Strangely enough I don't care that much. Looking forward to MSSL more anyway.


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