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noidea 19th March 2009 09:15 PM

it takes several weeks for nose surgery to heal + you have to wear a big nose patch for around a month, so no nose surgery here

noidea 19th March 2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Tsubasa~ (Post 1866224)
I don't see a difference!

I think it's only the make up. And I'm sure that PV's are also digital photoshoped and not only pics!

thats extremely expensive, it costs thousends of euros to do so because you have to edit every single frame and his still has to flow well, but for photoshoots, you only have to edit 4-12 pics, not over 5000 like a regular pv has(30 a second, 1800 a minute)

ALfromHELLSING 19th March 2009 09:56 PM

Just look her making of videos and you will see that she looks almost the same like she was back in poker face era. The same goes for Kumi. On KOSE promo she looks like complete different person, while on live events she looks like real Kuu. :P

ayumixfan 20th March 2009 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by panda♥ (Post 1866026)
Nobody can assume that she has or has not had plastic surgery before because she's never said it herself and we sure as hell are not her doctor nor do we have access to her medical records.

I will say though... Please explain how she was able to afford plastic surgery before stardom, and please explain how, if she did go under during her debut, she recovered so quickly? Plastic surgery takes at a minimum 6 weeks to heal depending on the procedure. Have we ever seen pictures of Ayu with bandages or bruises on her face from surgery?

My take, she hasn't had time to recover from plastic surgery from her debut until now. Before then I really doubt she even had the money to afford surgery and I doubt her mother would even let her at such a young age. :shrug

Faces change as people grow older. I have not seen a significant difference (something a surgery would do) from looking at her old swim suit modeling pictures and looking at her now without any makeup.

Well she could've gotten a job to pay for plastic surgery... Its not that expensive. She could've gotten it done over a period of time before stardom. My mom's friend is getting plastic surgery and she's not rich. Its not THAT expensive.

She could've gotten sugery done and then signed up for the swim suit model. That is also a possibility.

She did leave home and went to tokyo at an early age so her mom can't control her if she lived on her own and who knows, maybe her mom did let her at an early age :S

I personally don't know for sure if she did plastic surgery, but i think she did. I'm not saying its because she's ugly, but maybe she wanted bigger eyes, or a nicer nose. Just to finish little touches to look perfect.

SunshineSlayer 20th March 2009 10:50 AM

hmm. I was just looking at the pictures of her in dance rehearsal - the TA ones on the news page. Even there her breasts look very pushed up and pushed together....yet its a dance rehearsal. If it is a bra, why bother with such a constricting one for dance practice? In fact it doesn't even look like she is wearing anything other than a black dance top. All of her recent pictures show more cleavage than she really ever did before. They have never looked that voluminous in the past. The only one where her breasts look their normal size is the Rule cover, but even then, she is wearing latex which will flatten you (I've worn it before, haha) and she is arching her back with her head thrown back as well - that will flatten anyone. And then add the fact that it seems she lost quite a bit of weight from December on, but none of it came from her chest and usually for a lot of women, that is the first place it comes off from. (unfortunately...^_^) In many of the recent TA photos I think her chest looks bigger than it was before. Not hugely bigger, but still bigger all the same. So she has either decided to wear big push up bras all day everyday now or it is the alternative.

I hope it really is just bras, because there was nothing wrong with her to begin with. And if it is just bras, I wish she didn't feel the need to try and flaunt her chest so much these days. I was watching a bunch of her old performance videos today and really she didn't show her chest much, if at all. But all of a sudden from last year on, its become chest central. :)

Unless she comes out looking completely freakish sometime though, we may not ever know for sure if/what she has had done.

Sorry Ayu to be talking about your breasts so much, lol! I'll try and be quiet now.

Yoake 20th March 2009 10:56 AM

I don't think she did plastic surgery it's probably her make up, the light and don't forget Ayu is ALLERGIC!!!!

C+R+E+AYUMI 20th March 2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rookies (Post 1865741)
Her mom sure looks really young in that pic. :D

I thought the same thing...she looks so beautiful and much younger...they seem proper mother and daughter!!

vampireknightzero 20th March 2009 12:14 PM

even though i personally feel that ayu had undergo plastic surgery, but that's alright. love her always :)

chloeM 20th March 2009 01:14 PM

make up and hair do...

Jeremy911 20th March 2009 03:43 PM

Are we really going to start this plastic surgery ******** again? I though Ayu sqwashed the rumors about her eyes when she started not wearing makeup in alot of her extras? Anyways your going off a freaking PV where touchups happen all the time, And surgery can take months to heal... Besides her nose looks the same to me anyway. It's mostly just the children here trying to up there post count, and start drama is all.

Jeremy911 20th March 2009 03:51 PM

Here is a statement on how long as nose job take to heal from a 'REAL' plastic surgeon.

In my practice, we see patients for primary and secondary rhinoplasty. Healing time can vary, but the general post-operative course I describe to my patients can include the following depending on what was done during the rhinoplasty:

1. Post-op - for the first 3-5 days patients have a splint and nasal packing in place.
2. Days 3-5 - the packing or internal nasal splint is removed and the external splint is changed. Any exterior sutures are removed (some patients will not have external sutures at all).
3. Days 7-10 - we remove the external splint.

Usually patients are OK to return to non-strenuous work at one week.

Healing for any boney work takes about 6 weeks. The incisions are usually well on their way to being healed at 2-3 weeks. And while most changes are complete in the first month, tip swelling can persist for about a year.

I hope this helps!



Now maybe this will shut you folks up?

JCD13 20th March 2009 05:09 PM

I think she just flares her nostrils a lot. Especially when she does those weird mouth " ^ " type expressions, where her bottom lip comes down and her mouth is open. Make-up, lighting, angles, all that can make her nose look different. Also, maybe her nose isnt perfectly symmetrical, so it may look different from different sides.

Try taking some pictures of yourself from different angles and see if you had a "nose job" in between pictures. >_>

haikudasai 20th March 2009 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy911 (Post 1867431)
Here is a statement on how long as nose job take to heal from a 'REAL' plastic surgeon.

In my practice, we see patients for primary and secondary rhinoplasty. Healing time can vary, but the general post-operative course I describe to my patients can include the following depending on what was done during the rhinoplasty:

1. Post-op - for the first 3-5 days patients have a splint and nasal packing in place.
2. Days 3-5 - the packing or internal nasal splint is removed and the external splint is changed. Any exterior sutures are removed (some patients will not have external sutures at all).
3. Days 7-10 - we remove the external splint.

Usually patients are OK to return to non-strenuous work at one week.

Healing for any boney work takes about 6 weeks. The incisions are usually well on their way to being healed at 2-3 weeks. And while most changes are complete in the first month, tip swelling can persist for about a year.

I hope this helps!



Now maybe this will shut you folks up?

That's what I said prior to this. There isn't much downtime for a nose job.

Look at someone like Ashley Tisdale (most recent to have a nose job) she had downtime that seemed to last just a week and was already at events and such doing work with no sign of bruising or incision site. The only visible sign was a mild case of being swollen.

The interesting thing about this whole discussion is the immediate attempt to squash those who think she did (in the past at all) rather than live and let live.

I did find it funny that this person said "boney" rather than keeping it real and stating the true term. lol

stickyrice 20th March 2009 05:40 PM

Meh - whatever. if she got it done, she got it done. I never cared about the whole plastic surgery thing anyways, and that goes for every celebrity (or non-celebrity)

jbrat2219 20th March 2009 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1867135)
hmm. I was just looking at the pictures of her in dance rehearsal - the TA ones on the news page. Even there her breasts look very pushed up and pushed together....yet its a dance rehearsal. If it is a bra, why bother with such a constricting one for dance practice? In fact it doesn't even look like she is wearing anything other than a black dance top. All of her recent pictures show more cleavage than she really ever did before. They have never looked that voluminous in the past. The only one where her breasts look their normal size is the Rule cover, but even then, she is wearing latex which will flatten you (I've worn it before, haha) and she is arching her back with her head thrown back as well - that will flatten anyone. And then add the fact that it seems she lost quite a bit of weight from December on, but none of it came from her chest and usually for a lot of women, that is the first place it comes off from. (unfortunately...^_^) In many of the recent TA photos I think her chest looks bigger than it was before. Not hugely bigger, but still bigger all the same. So she has either decided to wear big push up bras all day everyday now or it is the alternative.

I hope it really is just bras, because there was nothing wrong with her to begin with. And if it is just bras, I wish she didn't feel the need to try and flaunt her chest so much these days. I was watching a bunch of her old performance videos today and really she didn't show her chest much, if at all. But all of a sudden from last year on, its become chest central. :)

Unless she comes out looking completely freakish sometime though, we may not ever know for sure if/what she has had done.

Sorry Ayu to be talking about your breasts so much, lol! I'll try and be quiet now.

:roflmao

To a certain extent I can understand why she's doing it. I think she's just getting in touch with her sexual side a little more. I don't think she's gone too far yet.

SunshineSlayer 20th March 2009 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by haikudasai (Post 1867487)
That's what I said prior to this. There isn't much downtime for a nose job.

I agree. Jeremy's post actually proved the point that it is possible time wise for her to have had something done - even if that wasn't the intention of this post^_^. (She had a few periods last year of inactivity. Or at least some stretches of time where she was not in the public eye)

I don't think she had a nose job though - it doesn't seem definitive enough to make that statement since it could just be makeup still.

But yeah, plastic surgery recovery time, especially if you aren't doing some major overhaul, has actually gotten much shorter in the last couple of years. She did actually have the time last year to have something done. Not saying she did it, just that it is possible time wise for her to have had something done last year if she had wanted to.

RikkuChii 20th March 2009 11:01 PM

Naw, she did nothing to her face. It's probably just make-up.

ALfromHELLSING 20th March 2009 11:16 PM

^agree.
Ayu's plastic surgery topics are much more popular than her new album topic. I never new that it is so interesting...

pommy48 20th March 2009 11:17 PM

:roflmao, why is it that people doubt the power of makeup Xd

love in music 20th March 2009 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1867135)
hmm. I was just looking at the pictures of her in dance rehearsal - the TA ones on the news page. Even there her breasts look very pushed up and pushed together....yet its a dance rehearsal. If it is a bra, why bother with such a constricting one for dance practice? In fact it doesn't even look like she is wearing anything other than a black dance top. All of her recent pictures show more cleavage than she really ever did before. They have never looked that voluminous in the past. The only one where her breasts look their normal size is the Rule cover, but even then, she is wearing latex which will flatten you (I've worn it before, haha) and she is arching her back with her head thrown back as well - that will flatten anyone. And then add the fact that it seems she lost quite a bit of weight from December on, but none of it came from her chest and usually for a lot of women, that is the first place it comes off from. (unfortunately...^_^) In many of the recent TA photos I think her chest looks bigger than it was before. Not hugely bigger, but still bigger all the same. So she has either decided to wear big push up bras all day everyday now or it is the alternative.

I hope it really is just bras, because there was nothing wrong with her to begin with. And if it is just bras, I wish she didn't feel the need to try and flaunt her chest so much these days. I was watching a bunch of her old performance videos today and really she didn't show her chest much, if at all. But all of a sudden from last year on, its become chest central. :)

Unless she comes out looking completely freakish sometime though, we may not ever know for sure if/what she has had done.

Sorry Ayu to be talking about your breasts so much, lol! I'll try and be quiet now.

yeah i was noticing that too. also, most people that do get breast implants have the constant need to show them off after they heal. :P


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