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Pieces_of_SEVEN 28th November 2011 03:24 PM
Need more info on this!

Misa-chan 28th November 2011 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nick (Post 2784614)
Hey, letter
I agree - I got sick and tired of re-releases of re-releases (containing just one small vid of 'making' in the end), or re-remixes of re-remixes (with the change of one or two notes, a speeding or slowing it down a bit). If you will look closely into this and think - these releases have nothing to do with what Ayu writes and signs now, it's all based on the past - that was all released already, sometimes twice or three times... That is actually one of the reasons that I don't update my eneabba.net any more... It's now '1998-2010', I think I should've stopped in 2008...
I mean - it's all OK for the relatively new fans... But what I am supposed to do with my collection (since about 2000...)... throw VHS tapes to buy video CDs, then throw video CDs out to buy DVDs, then throw DVDs out to buy blu-rays, next throw blu-rays out to buy 3D discs. Be rest assured - by the time the 3D will be commonplace, they'll invent 'smellovision' (like in Futurama cartoon), then something else - just to make sure that the old stuff keeps getting re-issued...
Please, people, buy the stuff if you want to. But not me... I am sure I can afford the whole lot, with limited editions etc etc, but there has to be an end to this... So, nope, not me... fool me once - ok, fool me twice - I get suspicious, so there won't be a third time... just my personal opinion, naturally
Tom Punks is right. If you wanna blame anything, blame technology.

Besides, avex is not forcing anyone to buy these stuff. I'm a collector myself, owning almost all of ayu's singles, albums and remix discs, but I don't buy these collection thingies because I have no need for them. This gets to be a problem only when you force yourself to try to be the perfect collector with the absolute complete collection. Just ease up abit. If you think it's unnecessary, just pass it up and you'll be fine. :yes

nick 28th November 2011 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Punks (Post 2784619)
^ Well, the quality is kind of getting better every time we move on to the next video format... It's not like we gradually moved from VHS tapes to blu-ray discs because movie distributors were trying to milk us for our money. :shrug There's a huge difference in quality between VHS tapes and HD movies. Times and formats change.
Of course, quality is getting better... But I would disagree - about milking for the money. Avex is known to do exactly that - like releasing 'A BEST' without any regard for Ayu objections that it is way too early for this (in case everyone has forgotten the fact).
And if releasing the same videos over and over again, in a new 'A COMPLETE' version (adding just a couple more vids) is not milking people for the money, I don't know what is...
The last point - sure, VHS quality is not as good as blu-ray. But, I am personally not interested to see an exact detail of a costume - the music is more important than video... at least for me...

Tom Punks 28th November 2011 10:26 PM
^ Well, yeah, they've milked fans for money plenty of times before. And the DVD set isn't really necessary since everything has been released on DVD before. But the blu-ray set isn't at all unnecessary since the PVs have never been released in HD before. You may not be interested in seeing them in HD, but others apparently are. That doesn't mean you should have to buy it or feel pressured to. I'm definitely not buying it, lol.

ohsixthirty 28th November 2011 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by nick (Post 2784827)
Of course, quality is getting better... But I would disagree - about milking for the money. Avex is known to do exactly that - like releasing 'A BEST' without any regard for Ayu objections that it is way too early for this (in case everyone has forgotten the fact).
And if releasing the same videos over and over again, in a new 'A COMPLETE' version (adding just a couple more vids) is not milking people for the money, I don't know what is...
The last point - sure, VHS quality is not as good as blu-ray. But, I am personally not interested to see an exact detail of a costume - the music is more important than video... at least for me...
yeah...avex is trying to get money from us, its their job. its ayu's job too. i don't know why people always use that as a bad thing. honestly, i'd rather be a fan of an artist like ayu who is always trying to get my money than a fan of an artist who only releases a single like every year or two. :yes

miki_beland 28th November 2011 10:50 PM
i like spending my money on ayu.

ohsixthirty 28th November 2011 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by miki_beland (Post 2784844)
i like spending my money on ayu.
hahahaha! me too! mamma needs a new pair of high heels! :lech

jbrat2219 28th November 2011 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by miki_beland (Post 2784844)
i like spending my money on ayu.
Me too! She's one of the only artist that I listen to who is worth the money. :innocent

ayuuk 29th November 2011 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by miki_beland (Post 2784844)
i like spending my money on ayu.
Totally second this.

Misa-chan 29th November 2011 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by miki_beland (Post 2784844)
i like spending my money on ayu.
Best comment ever lol!!! :D

kinix 29th November 2011 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by nick (Post 2784827)
And if releasing the same videos over and over again, in a new 'A COMPLETE' version (adding just a couple more vids) is not milking people for the money, I don't know what is...
It's call meeting the demands of the market.
If there's a demand for blu-ray version and avex ignores it then it is bad marketing for them. Even in AHS there's demand for blu ray versions of the PVs so I think there shd be a demanding market in japan too.
The only milking of fans money I would agree to is the different versions/covers of albums and singles. Because they could simply combine the versions and covers into the same disc and release but they choose to do so in versions.
The rest of the release I wouldnt agree so as mentioned above.
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Originally Posted by nick (Post 2784827)
The last point - sure, VHS quality is not as good as blu-ray. But, I am personally not interested to see an exact detail of a costume - the music is more important than video... at least for me...
Are you still watching these videos on your computer? If so then yes, you wouldnt care much about higher quality videos. But IF you were to watch the VHS converted videos, VCD and even DVD quality on a HDTV 42" and above TV, you would certainly want better quality video with it. The lower versions just look aweful in it.

ohsixthirty 29th November 2011 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by kinix (Post 2784905)
Are you still watching these videos on your computer? If so then yes, you wouldnt care much about higher quality videos. But IF you were to watch the VHS converted videos, VCD and even DVD quality on a HDTV 42" and above TV, you would certainly want better quality video with it. The lower versions just look aweful in it.
you know, i've noticed that too. every time i try watching a PV downloaded from AHS, even the super HQ ones, it always looks a little crappy on my TV. i can't wait to have them in real HD!

AyumiAi 29th November 2011 05:42 PM
clearly this is a release people wanted since apparently it's already sold out everywhere

isthisLOL? 29th November 2011 06:32 PM
I rather spend tons of money on an artist whose company tries to milk fans and selectively buy what I want than someone who releases an album once all three years and just is lazy in the meantime. Hello Utada.

koumori 29th November 2011 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2785218)
I rather spend tons of money on an artist whose company tries to milk fans and selectively buy what I want than someone who releases an album once all three years and just is lazy in the meantime. Hello Utada.
Let's not drag in other artists, yeah? :D That's when flame wars start~ :yes

I buy what I can, when I can. I only have three CD's of Ayu's work, but I treasure them.

isthisLOL? 29th November 2011 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Koumori (Post 2785220)


Let's not drag in other artists, yeah? :D That's when flame wars start~ :yes

I buy what I can, when I can. I only have three CD's of Ayu's work, but I treasure them.
I love Utada, if this starts to become a flame war it's not my fault xD

Anyways I think not releasing anything for an extended time is a way of being rude to fans imo. So I'm glad Ayumi releases lots of stuff, even if some is compilations and the likes, there's always something new or improved about it and it's never the ****** type of rerelease many American artists release with a video on DVD or a new remix.

yukito 29th November 2011 06:48 PM
I like it when artist take their time to really prepare their stuff. Makes you want them even more.

isthisLOL? 29th November 2011 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by yukito (Post 2785225)
I like it when artist take their time to really prepare their stuff. Makes you want them even more.
I never felt like that changes anything about quality so I think it's often lazyness. Most of my favorite music is "rushed" and I myself always work best when I work quickly and under stress.

Mami-chan 29th November 2011 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2785197)
clearly this is a release people wanted since apparently it's already sold out everywhere
This! And I'm one of the people who really wanted it :D
And none is forcing you to buy it. There's people who is EXCITED about this release, if you don't like it just don't buy it!
I don't see where's the problem .__.

Tom Punks 29th November 2011 07:21 PM
Not to start a debate about Utada or anything, but I really don't think she takes so long to release because she's taking her time to make things. She doesn't seem to spend a whole year or two continuously writing songs and improving on them to make them as good as possible. She seems like she writes some songs, releases them, does nothing for a long time, then writes some more songs. Not that I'm saying it's necessarily a bad thing for her to do, because there are positive sides to it, too. >_> I just don't think she really takes her time in that sense.

Just my opinion, anyways.

owlflight 29th November 2011 11:57 PM
I want this release but the cost is a bit difficult for me at this time. Even if the cover isn't going to be super special, I wouldn't mind seeing a picture of it. I could be wrong. It could be an awesome cover. I do plan on purchasing the bluray in the future!

EDIT: Oops! I meant to post this in the new thread.

letter 30th November 2011 12:01 AM
I wonder if anyone is actually going to download all those videos once they're available.

yukito 30th November 2011 12:14 AM
Maybe they'll just rip each blu-ray disc and upload like the concerts, and will watch it as a movie.

RayJason 30th November 2011 12:15 AM
^^ I am...going to!! But only when my BOX has arrived. I want to store the videos on my computer (and some on my phone) and converting the videos from CD to an .avi or whatever takes too much time from me. (I'm not even sure how to do that lol).

When I do get all PV's, my whole ayu discography + pv's will be COMPLETE, OH YES. <insert evil laugh> / sorry watched too much DBZ.

Ayufan11 30th November 2011 12:17 AM
Why are there two threads open? someone close this one?

yukito 30th November 2011 09:26 AM
Because after you get to 500 posts you always move to a new one the other ne should be closed.


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