but that would just be recycling stuff again, which is what i thought people were complaining about concerning this release..

The Judgement Day :heart

I really like the covers. But I really wished, she would do a PV for one of the new songs. SO.. no of the really new songs on this Album has a PV. What pity.
And I hope, there will not be 3 or 4 interludes. That not really songs.

not recycling if things are changed. I don't consider some of the tracks on LOVEppears to be recycled :)

its not that stuff was recycled, it was how the last two releases were presented.
I would have been completely fine if they told us that the mini albums would be singles, or the if the mini albums were to be combined on a later album, but we were lead to believe that it would be all NEW material, when it clearly isnt.

^Exactly. All this outrage wouldn't be going on if they had just released LOVE and again as singles, with the appropriate pricing. It's ****ing greedy avex tactics.

seeing how the releases are...ive lost faith in the creativity of ayu's marketing team. i could just DREAM interludes becoming full songs.

interludes can stay interludes, thank you much

Listen to this!

I got to thinking and I am not upset that LOVE and again are included, why? Think about it. Look at I am...

This is what I am... looked like to us when it was first released

1. I am... [new track]
2. Opening run [interlude]
3. Connected [new track]
4. UNITE!
5. evolution
6. Naturally [new track]
7. NEVER EVER
8. still alone [new track]
9. Daybreak [new track]
10. Taskinlude [interlude]
11. M
12. a song is born
13. Dearest
14. no more words [new track]
15. Endless sorrow
16. flower garden [new track]

Now, back in the day Ayu would release ONE song at a time on a maxi-single and we would happily spend about $12 USA for ONE SONG with a TON of half-rate remixes on them. I am... included 7 previously-released single tracks and we spent about $84 on those songs already if we bought all of those singles. Now I am... came out with 9 new tracks 2 being interludes and 7 being songs.

Look at LOVE again.

01. Wake me up
02. Song 4 u
03. Missing
04. SAKURA [new track]
05. Melody
06. task'n'bass [interlude]
07. Bye-bye darling [new track]
08. snowy kiss
09. Sweet scar
10. petal [new track]
11. glasses [new track]
12. untitled for her... story 2 [new track]
13. Gloria [new track]
14. Ivy
15. You & Me

assuming that only task'n'bass is an interlude we have 1 new interlude and 6 new songs (one less new song than I am...) and 7 were previously-released songs (same amount as I am...) only instead we paid about $20 USA dollars for each mini album (about $40 total) that is $44 less than the singles we paid during the pre I am... time period.

So think about it people, we are just being spoiled brats, this release isn't as bad as it seems! Do this same comparison with other albums she has released, we are not getting ripped off!

I notice that the people who don't mind the recycled tracks are the ones who didn't purchase A SUMMER BEST, LOVE, or again.

I don't get it. So because certain people chose not to support ayu's past releases, the rest of the fanbase should suffer with recycled tracks?

^^^ some of them could become full songs, like "insomnia" or "taskinst" others can stay the way they are really, but some would be awesome as full songs!

^^^People know this. The problem is that LOVE and again were promoted as mini ALBUMS. That's why people who only buy albums and no singles now feel like they got a bad deal. Because if you don't buy singles and only albums and not even best ofs, it is a bad deal. Would LOVE again be another mini people wouldn't be sad at all!

Why does it matter that mini albums went to an album, that's just a title difference. We would spend $12 on ONE SONG back in the day. I would much rather pay $20 for 3-4 songs with 4 good remixes instead of $12 for one song and 9 crappy remixes (with a few good ones in there). Really, everyone is just stuck on the idea that a mini-album got put onto an album. If she had called LOVE and again "maxi-singles" no one would have had a problem. Remember buying "A" "&" "H" and "L" people and then buying a/b side singles and then having no problem with the album afterward

COME ON PEOPLE!!

if you are a real Ayu fan you buy the albums and singles no problem, the only upset people here are the one's that don't usually purchase both, so boo hoo you lost $40, go suck your thumb

it really doesnt have anything to do with the money...
I would have bought Love and again no matter what... its the disappointment that i was told one thing and then something else happened...

this is exactly the point.
they were MARKETED as one thing when they really were not that.

I think you're wrong in thinking that the "rest of the fanbase" is the majority. I didn't buy ASB because it's mainly tracks I already have on CD. I don't like Best ofs for the same reason. LOVE and again seemed like bad deals from the get on, so I didn't buy them, yet. (Planned to buy them later) Just because I didn't buy them the moment they were released, I'm not a person who chose not to support ayu's past releases, thank you very much. I spent loads of money on Ayu for over 10 years.

As I wrote in the twitter thread already:

I totally get why people purchasing LOVE and again are upset now.
It's an information problem only, doesn't have anything to do with wanting to support ayu or not.

and? Big deal, if you buy her singles and albums this is no problem

the people complaining are those who don't buy the singles and only the albums. So just in my opinion, only the die-hard fans aren't complaining

Prepare yourselves for A BEST 3 -LOVE- / -again-

O.o
 

The next album will be "LOVE again AGAIN."

And, she'll keep adding again's to the titles and keep reusing the same material... maybe she's been cursed so that she can only repeat the same thing over and over.....

...on another note. I seriously think this is Avex pulling the strings on this one. :no

I'm buying 3 versions regardless, but I think avex are greedy bastards.

I hope not but sadly it might come true :thud nonono

Not true...I blow most "die-hard" fans here out of the water (that's not meant offensively), and I'm complaining.

I'm glad to hear it, I'm just saying that these are the people who are mainly not caring that these tracks are recycled. It's not about the money, I can afford to buy LOVE again ten times over. But you're (not you, general use) a fool if you don't mind being taken advantage of by avex.

edit- someone should create a new thread please.

I'm really excited for "untitled story 2". Her part two's are usually better than the first. Hanabi was boring but episode II AMAZING. Friend II is slightly better than the first, even though there isn't that much of a difference between them.

However "Untitled" is already a really great song so i have high hopes!

Me too! :) Considering how good the preceding two minis were, I don't think we can lose with LOVE again.

There is no use explaining it some fans are just blind. You are just wasting your time explaining your self. As much as I love Ayu when something is wrong is wrong. Why is that so hard to understand.

excuse me, but I consider myself a die hard fan and buy just about everything she has.
it is a big deal because a group of us feel like we were lied too.
Like i said before, for me at least it has NOTHING to do with the money. it has EVERYTHING to do with the way that we were presented with the material.

^my sentiments exactly.

Eh, no. I buyed A SUMMER BEST and I will buy LOVE and again in the future. But first I will buy LOVE again. And I don't mind the "recycled tracks".

^Well you're one of the few. If you read through the threads, that's most people's justification for liking that there are recycled tracks on the new album.

new thread http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...84#post2954784

^thanks! let's continue discussion there.

You are missing the point entirely.
Its not about the number of tracks, its about the singles for LOVE again being promoted as stand alone releases at a much higher price, its about the "buy all 5 releases in order to recieve a prize" when 2 of those would make more than half of the 4th, its about being tricked with false advertisement.

though you obviously don't want to understand. I don't know if you're being rude/stupid just for a reaction or if you truly don't process information well.

I don't understand why people are so thick and don't understand this. It's like... :thud

So if you don't buy every Ayu release your not a real big fan...that's such a huge load of BS, I can't even. Because being a "fan" has to do with buying items, instead of enjoying the music.
You can be a huge fan if you've NEVER bought a release or if you buy every release or if you buy some and not others. I just hate that people think there real fans cause they choose to buy 10 different versions of the same damn thing over people who decide that there going to buy a single/album because they actually LIKE the content on it.

and who exactly said that? It's like people didn't read my post or are too incompetent to understand my point. Also, being a true mean DOES mean supporting your artist, at least every now and then. Not necessarily buying every version of every release.

I hate the mindset of "OH I didn't buy LOVE or again so I'm glad they're on LOVE again" because it's STILL RECYCLED TRACKS. Also singles being called mini-albums to jack up the price.

Also...start posting here!
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116740

It would be cool if the re-released songs on LOVE again were at least mixed differently. What if it was a techno album. XDDD