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Violently Happy 3rd October 2011 10:24 PM

I really like this PV thingy!!! XD

hidekirby 3rd October 2011 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2764482)
It seems to me the people loving it are mostly those with no idea about design and videos whatsoever. I'm no expert myself but know enough to see that this is not amazing and the people with actual design background I talked to about this video agree.
Still I think considering it's part of a pachinko machine it's ok, but compared to proper PVs it's...erm...

I know what you mean. I'm far from being an expert or something esle myself. Yet I'm an arts student (animation) and have a little (very little) "background". And things like this PV are just... No.

But as you said, it really fits the pachinko thing. Look at this machine with all those colorful plastic diamonds and so on... It's pretty japanese actually haha!


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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2764508)
The anime videos were pretty bad too... Ayu is overdramatic herself, but her anime version had a dramatic face from 5 to 5 seconds @____________@

Haha!
The anime part is just epic. I mean, I laughed through the whole thing! Ayu jumping so as to save one of her dancer, being trapped between life and death...!

TITANIC 3rd October 2011 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffycue (Post 2764215)
NICE! but she doesnt look like anything from the Duty era. hahaha. so ayu-modern.

well said.

Catfisk 4th October 2011 12:09 AM

I know that I've seen screenshots from it before but I never knew where it was from D:
Man, how did I miss this?

Love it! Thanks for sharing ^^

Kazeyomi 4th October 2011 01:09 AM

Just seen the Anime video. And.. what? Is she a bricklayer now? :laugh
Actually it's well made and not so cheap as I thought (by what I can see from the video). And wow Shu-ya looks so bishounen :roflmao.

TeamAyu2004 4th October 2011 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hidekirby (Post 2764569)
I know what you mean. I'm far from being an expert or something esle myself. Yet I'm an arts student (animation) and have a little (very little) "background". And things like this PV are just... No.


You're going to have to explain, because I have background in making music videos and I have to say this is better then most of her PV's. Some of the animation is cheesy, yes, but as for telling a story, which most MV's/PV's are suppose to do (besides the ones that are just "artiste"), this ones does it very well.

As for the other comments about Ayu, yes. She looks amazing at the beginning... I don't understand why she doesn't wear her hair long all the time, she looks so much better to me!

RealLight 4th October 2011 01:12 AM

Loved the PV, I wish that this same 'technology' was used for progress PV -_-

and I felt so sorry for Subaru :weep lol

Andrenekoi 4th October 2011 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2764596)
You're going to have to explain, because I have background in making music videos and I have to say this is better then most of her PV's. Some of the animation is cheesy, yes, but as for telling a story, which most MV's/PV's are suppose to do (besides the ones that are just "artiste"), this ones does it very well.

As for the other comments about Ayu, yes. She looks amazing at the beginning... I don't understand why she doesn't wear her hair long all the time, she looks so much better to me!

Well... the fact the animation is telling the story doesn't makes it good...

And I found the whole concept and story to be pretty cheesy, so, it's not like i would love it with an amazing animation anyway... it looks like a random anime opening...

And I really hate to see ayu as a damsel in distress... It goes against her lyrics, the image the portrays most of the time and her performances...

adantatu2 4th October 2011 05:28 AM

the anime is so dramatic, XD
at least ayu looks pretty well on anime

Jester 4th October 2011 06:08 AM

Avex should release DVD/Blu-ray A PACHINKO VIDEO COLLECTION LOL!

PS. I don't know why people call a simple video is a cheap, You want she makes every videos with million budget? and I think progress can told the meaning very well and I really like it. I don't understand why people are so serious.

sesshy 4th October 2011 06:10 AM

I thought the PV was interesting. But some reason doesn't really match Duty to me. It felt Final Fantasy-ish to me. :laugh I love fantasy stuff.

Tony G 4th October 2011 06:19 AM

God, so much whingeing. Yes its cheesy, but perfect for the pachinko machine and really not that bad of a PV if you don't think about how cheap it was to make. She's not going to splash out on some lavish PV that probably won't ever be officially released.

TeamAyu2004 4th October 2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sesshy (Post 2764670)
I thought the PV was interesting. But some reason doesn't really match Duty to me. It felt Final Fantasy-ish to me. :laugh I love fantasy stuff.

When i saw Shu-ya and all the others, I was like, this is Final Fantasy based... lol

yamadashun 4th October 2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sesshy (Post 2764670)
I thought the PV was interesting. But some reason doesn't really match Duty to me. It felt Final Fantasy-ish to me. :laugh I love fantasy stuff.

it looks more like Devil May Cry to me!!

omg i wish Duty single (special edition) will be released.

RayJason 4th October 2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xLuna&1LOVE (Post 2764456)
Bigger crap than this can't be made. Seriously.

How can I not agree with you!

The videogame characters don't appeal to me. The PV seems so cheap and it doesn't even fit the song that much... But she does look awesome in the beginning though.

RayJason 4th October 2011 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Endless_RAINBOW (Post 2764478)
This video (or PV, I still don't know how to call it) has more money than any of her recents PVs. And, as someone previously said, "progress" deserved a PV like this (though I don't like the song).

There is an alternate full version PV of progress:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SClh6...bx5HSg&index=2

And you have a ton of ****load of AMV's on Youtube that fit especially well with the song.

thatstacey 4th October 2011 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2764596)
You're going to have to explain, because I have background in making music videos and I have to say this is better then most of her PV's. Some of the animation is cheesy, yes, but as for telling a story, which most MV's/PV's are suppose to do (besides the ones that are just "artiste"), this ones does it very well.

Pretty much this. I think there's a problem in this thread of conflating "bad design" or bad direction with "cheap effects." I personally didn't like the video that much, but it's a lot better than her other PVs in terms of narrative cohesion. Her formal PVs may be more expensive and can afford better looking visual effects, but that doesn't mean they are implemented effectively. For awhile I've felt that her biggest PVs ("Mirrorcle World" especially) have comprised of little more than disjointed set pieces. This was a nice change in that respect.

Really, the whole thread of "people who like the video don't understand ~design" needs to stop. Give your fellow fans some credit; some people value the narrative--or maybe even just the narrative possibilities promised by Ayu stepping into the fantasy/action realm--over the quality of the effects themselves. And other people just like it without understanding or caring why. That's ok, too.

AyUmIXx 4th October 2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by thatstacey (Post 2764775)

Really, the whole thread of "people who like the video don't understand ~design" needs to stop. Give your fellow fans some credit; some people value the narrative--or maybe even just the narrative possibilities promised by Ayu stepping into the fantasy/action realm--over the quality of the effects themselves. And other people just like it without understanding or caring why. That's ok, too.

THAT'S SO TRUE!
i personally like the video because i think it's cool to have ayu in a game-like video clip to see. it'd be great if she could ever make something like this on her next release's PV.

it's NOT even the official Duty PV.

Oniisan 4th October 2011 04:45 PM

love it:luv2

Misa-chan 4th October 2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2764648)
And I really hate to see ayu as a damsel in distress... It goes against her lyrics, the image the portrays most of the time and her performances...

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Originally Posted by RayJason (Post 2764769)
The videogame characters don't appeal to me. The PV seems so cheap and it doesn't even fit the song that much... But she does look awesome in the beginning though.

Actually, I feel that the PV does go really well with the lyrics in Duty. Duty's lyrics sing about people searching for "something" which they have in them all along, and how she as a diva has lost that "something" and that she trusts "you" will be able to find it for her. At least that's how I interpret the lyrics. But I find that it really fits the PV's storyline, like how ayu is shown as a diva in the beginning, then after her reflection morphs into the monster, she becomes the nun trapped and awaiting rescue. The dark angels and gothic setting also fits the song's dark mood. :yes

Did a translation of the lyrics, maybe the PV will make more sense when watched together with lyrics. ;)

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The thing which everyone desires and is searching for,
“it” exists sometime in the future.
You and I, that’s what we believe.
But, how many people actually realize
that “it” may actually exist in the past?
I can’t even guess

Yes, I saw the end of an era
With my own eyes
But I didn’t want to know
That it will be my turn next

Yes, I’ll try to say it a little more plainly
“It” just helps us to connect
And line up our memories
But if so, that means that you and I,
we all already have “it”?
Please understand that

Yes, I saw the end of an era
With my own eyes
And, in truth, I already know
That it will be my turn next

You will find “it”, because you are you
You will find “it”, because you are you
I believe it, I’ll bet on it

Yes, I saw the end of an era
With my own eyes
But I didn’t want to know
That it will be my turn next


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