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Violently Happy 7th July 2012 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 2879161)
I'm being serious, it's embarrassing how even Tim had to go on facebook to address it. I'm sure Ayu is embarrassed by it too.

Lol okay. Sorry if I came out as a bit rude. Yeah I understand what you mean. I don't really care for Timmy, but I won't bash on him. I respect other people's opinions so I don't really like conflict so I wont state my opinion a lot of times... ^^;

ayu_ready? 7th July 2012 07:17 AM

that moment when ICONIQ who no one really remembers now has better shots than Queen Ayu. my life gets ruined.

BlackSilence 7th July 2012 09:00 AM

^psst, she will be remmebered, well kinda is xD *coughGACKTcough*
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Originally Posted by emi♡ (Post 2880680)
^Actually, sorry, I meant the photographer, not the model, should be paying attention to the lighting, etc. Not that he shouldn't pay attention to the model.

But idk...I don't think she was smiling too wide...If that's her natural smile lol But yeah, I'm sure they have other shots and stuff.

I do think he should have paid more attention to her head angle. It's not easy for models to understand sometimes what body positions will look like at different angles from the camera.


Random, but I brought this up earlier when jesscat was talking about ayu's laugh lines, the model lena fujii, who I totally love, but whenever she smiles like really naturally...it's not really that pleasant looking :laugh So usually shots of her are not like that...

but should that mean that she never smiles like that? idk lol It's hard to say.


I do think in Ayu's case it's the deal with photographer. But don't they show her the results after they did a few shots? I mean i have seen in making ofs that they do show her the photos...:innocent
Real models actually should know the angles and stuff like that from what position they look good, how to catch the light on right place of their face, because i mean they get money for that it's their job, however in Ayu's case i think she needs help from her team to tell her this looks good and that doesn't, because she's supped to be a good singer/performer not a model. But she could do so much better in her photos. I mean take for example Namie. I don't know if she's just very photogenic or just has good team, but she always looks amazingly beautiful in most of the pictures I saw of her, i'm not talking about styling or settings, but about her posing and face. Just gorgeous!

Andrenekoi 7th July 2012 07:27 PM

Ayumi is the boss, she says what she wants, and based on her making offs, I would say the work don't stop until she got what she want... Even people say they like or dislike something, it's up to her and her taste how it will end up being. Queen Bee gave amazing insights about the fashion photography (at least to me who likes the subject :P), but we have to keep in mind that her covers and booklets aren't fashion shots... And that just as she always did over her whole career, pushing people out of their confort zones is a constant on Ayu music-related photoshots, and that she tends to place its importance over the importance of looking good.

ExodusUK 7th July 2012 08:04 PM

We see in the NTV documentary that Ayu calls the shot on everything, even down to the font on the side of the CD case. Don't blame other people, Ayu is ultimately responsible for every product with her name on it. She says so herself.

saigodansu 8th July 2012 01:24 AM

Unless you read her diary entries saying she's being asked to do things she does not want to do and actually pay attention to all the times she's said she was going to do something only to have her managers reverse the decision. What they show in the documentary is only what they want seen to portray Ayu(the product) how they choose her to be portrayed. They even turned her diary into another staff blog when she said something they didn't approve of to her fans.

colorsofromance 8th July 2012 03:29 AM

^ Do you happen to know what it was she said to her fans that they didn't approve of? I'm just curious :)

Bigtop 8th July 2012 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2880666)
Ayu seems to go in so many different directions it's hard for me to keep track. But the fact I know she's capable of brilliant photos in recent years (ex. FIVE, Love songs) shows me she hasn't lost her touch. She's not consistent. I think that's the main problem. But that could also be intentional. I don't think the covers of ASB, for example, were suppose to be serious. Because, let's be honest, love it or hate it this best isn't that big of a deal. And Party Queen had a concept that made the low level quality clearly intentional. So putting these two aside, other photo shoots such as SUPER AYU (color photos), FIVE, and Love songs show she can take gorgeous photos when that's what she's going for. For this best, I don't think that's what she's trying to portrait. So I think the blame for "bad photos" rest on ayu since she approves them. But at the same time I don't think they're "bad" because she has no direction. I think people consider them bad because what ayu wants and what (western fans) want aren't the same. They have NEVER been the same, in my opinion. It's just a matter of liking the photo or not. All comes down to taste.

I agree. :yes Especially with the fact that you said "she's not consistent".

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2880981)
Ayumi is the boss, she says what she wants, and based on her making offs, I would say the work don't stop until she got what she want... Even people say they like or dislike something, it's up to her and her taste how it will end up being. Queen Bee gave amazing insights about the fashion photography (at least to me who likes the subject :P), but we have to keep in mind that her covers and booklets aren't fashion shots... And that just as she always did over her whole career, pushing people out of their confort zones is a constant on Ayu music-related photoshots, and that she tends to place its importance over the importance of looking good.

Kind of agree here also. :yes

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Originally Posted by saigodansu (Post 2881054)
Unless you read her diary entries saying she's being asked to do things she does not want to do and actually pay attention to all the times she's said she was going to do something only to have her managers reverse the decision. What they show in the documentary is only what they want seen to portray Ayu(the product) how they choose her to be portrayed. They even turned her diary into another staff blog when she said something they didn't approve of to her fans.

Yeah, I'm not sure why quality control is so important for ayu...what's the problem? I mean, how was it ten years ago - was it the other way around?

ayu_ready? 8th July 2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 2880986)
We see in the NTV documentary that Ayu calls the shot on everything, even down to the font on the side of the CD case. Don't blame other people, Ayu is ultimately responsible for every product with her name on it. She says so herself.

the last documentary was 8 years ago:innocent

AyUmIXx 8th July 2012 03:49 PM

another pic of ayu having photoshoots somewhere unknown haha

http://t.co/MifzzzNc

it seems it's ryan chan who took the pic~~

axmish87 8th July 2012 04:33 PM

She is shooting the video for You & Me... maybe

TeamAyu2004 8th July 2012 04:40 PM

She is so pretty in that picture!
I wonder how much of the cover is Ryan??

jewelbox 8th July 2012 04:46 PM

So beautiful!!

primavera♥ 8th July 2012 04:53 PM

She looks so gorgeous. <3 :)

ayu_ready? 8th July 2012 05:02 PM

I like her natural pretty & relaxed like this! not that photoshop fail they're making her into

btw, the new pic is definately not from You & Me PV, Misa-chan on her blog has some new translated tweets and there it's said that You & Me is the PV filmed overseas :)

the new pic might be a calendar shooting, or mag shooting

besides, Misa-chan on her blog also has a translated tweet that ANother song got into the album because TA voted for it much. it makes me a bit =/

owlflight 8th July 2012 05:09 PM

Love that picture! Ayu looks beautiful!

YUKARI 8th July 2012 05:13 PM

I love the last pic *.* I wish it was You & Me pv actually

panda♥ 8th July 2012 05:20 PM

i'm glad we get to see more of her awesome smile. :D

love in music 8th July 2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AyUmIXx (Post 2881225)
another pic of ayu having photoshoots somewhere unknown haha

http://t.co/MifzzzNc

it seems it's ryan chan who took the pic~~

She looks so beautiful here.
The A SUMMER BEST covers should have looked something like this instead.

jewelbox 8th July 2012 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_ready? (Post 2881253)
I like her natural pretty & relaxed like this! not that photoshop fail they're making her into

I agree


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