Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai - [Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~again~

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don't rly care bout the sales too.. no one last forever so...
as long as any of her new releases are not debuted out of top 10.. then i shouldn't be worried.
her music and her lyric which make me love her, that's enough for me <3

and i'm happy that she got 2nd!
i'm totally impressed with "again" minial.

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Originally Posted by MeyChan (Post 2944350)

Japanese people is stupid?

Do you know that even the Japanese people don't think hard.

They just didn't like it, that's it! Relax guys.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc...4o9_r1_250.gif

Seriously AHS..I don't understand why you are crying over these sales.
The goal wasn't to get as much profit as possible, this is gift for the fans.
Yes, the sales aren't that good, but I don't care at all.

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Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 2944585)

YAY!! :D
how much was first??

28,460 which's EXILE's EXILE BEST HITS -LOVE SIDE/SOUL SIDE- while for again being at #2 , it sold 12,764 copies

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2012-12-07/

she went up, good news.
I guess people WERE confused over the release date.

haters gonna hate.

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Originally Posted by PoetGirl (Post 2944537)

Im sorry but there's more to it, its not just a product. Product when in hands of people has its value. It means something to them or it represents their beliefs. You cant separate image and music. You cant look at the painting and close your eyes on some wrong details.

Image -the persona- represents the music. If -the persona- is doing something I feel its wrong/stupid/embarassing/bad I think its legit not to support the person, cause you dont think about background people and just music. You can simply download music for free or you can dislike -the persona- that much that you start to ignore it. She's a pop star, not a classical artist or some indie person we dont know face nor real name. And Im not even supportin' anybody's decision. I didnt even make a decision. Its more about music to me, but if she did something like rihanna did, basically supporting domestic violence Im sorry but I would never ever want to remember that I ever liked her. I would sell her cds and woudnt care anymore. And its not about 'oh I want to dictate Ayu's or anyone's life'. NO. Its just I have a right to decide whether I'll support somethin' or not, same as Ayu has or anyone else. So you should start respecting anyone's decision, like everyone else in the thread.

Okay that's nice but this is all about how people are bummed about Ayu's love life, and if it went deeper than that, then hey! Guess what, you aren't boycotting the mini album because of her love life. You're boycotting it because of deeper reasons. I mocked, and will still mock, people who won't buy this album because of who she's dating. I won't mock, and quite frankly don't give a toss about, people who have deeper but related reasons to not buying it.

Also your last sentence is really ironic considering what you're doing lol.

ETA: More freakin' importantly, look! She got #2! We can all calm down. Take a bong hit, drink some camomile and just RELAX.

I just think its horrible that people feel the need to boycott because of who she is dating...
its horrible funny, because who cares? And if you do, why? Why try and control her, to what ends can this bring you happiness?

these sales are a good thing if they make Avex & Ayu change their startegies and many other things. but, frankly, I'm sure they wouldn't

I by no means understand the last 5 years of Ayu's career and they seem like wtf period to me

but telling the Japanese fans they need to change their culture and 'adjust' to Ayu situation or any other ridiculous thing she & Avex might be pulling off after or now is just too much either

I am on the side of the Japanese fans. just for the thing, that THEY made her who she became, not foreign fans. we should show them some respect. if they dissaprove, that just might be a sign that she needs change. nothing more, nothing less.

I don't think they're boycotting of Maro. I think that, in fact, they don't probably like many things and are purely irritated, starting from Mannie-Timmy and Maro now was probably like the last straw

if ayu doesn't care about sales, why should I care?

but, oh well, it makes me sad a bit :laugh

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Originally Posted by saigodansu (Post 2944375)

I still say it's a stunt and a stupid one. Too bad for you if you disagree with 99% of her fans who live in a different culture and have a different opinion than you.

You may be right. Mind the people that insist on their illusion, though. It's all about dreaming. Publicity stunts have always been part of Ayu's career. The "A BEST" rebellion against Avex including the poorly staged interviews were just as fake as the relationships with Manuel Schwarz and Maro. You cannot force people to see through your own eyes whatsoever but I admittedly notice you won't give up anytime soon :lech

^ off topic, but staged interviews for A BEST? could you tell me more about them?

12K today?
thats a 33% increase

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Originally Posted by Eewyi (Post 2944623)

If they really wanted to give a gift to the fans and didn't care about sales I'm they could have stuck a SINGLE in there somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2944700)

^ off topic, but staged interviews for A BEST? could you tell me more about them?

I really loved this documentary but I much rather consider it as a very entertaining movie. Parts of it relate to the time during A BEST and how Avex "forced" Ayu to release this album, including the story around her tear on the cover, recognizing herself as product etc. This documentary is far from being unpopular but just to make sure:

Edit: Not going to start a discussion whether this might be completely real or 20% fake etc - I don't care. I just mentioned that to me it appeared a little unbelievable and I am gonna hug you no matter what you think about dat x

^ i didnt realize people thought that was fake... o.O.

You guys have way too much spare time rofl

I don't want to spread my opinion upon everyone, I just wanted to state that I sensed a strange feeling while watching the documentary. I don't hold an evidence in my hands to prove it fake, actually I didn't even want to call it like that as I always loved this documentary. Perhaps I should retract my first statement and call it partially suspicious rather than fake xD

Is the rest of the interview with English subs available anywhere else, channy?

I tried to find something in the download section on AHS, but everything seems to be down (Megaupload links O.o). Can't you watch it on YouTube?

Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v727-t0fv44

Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqWBPX0IRBM

Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epnmpeC6mHs

Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMNCImkkBFE

Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0USF5lu1cP4

It's not necessarily a boycott. If you don't like a product, you aren't going to buy it. Simple as that.

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Originally Posted by channy (Post 2944781)

I tried to find something in the download section on AHS, but everything seems to be down (Megaupload links O.o). Can't you watch it on YouTube?

Oh I didn't even see if there were other parts! I was on my phone. Thanks so much for pointing this out to me!