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ayu_fantasy 27th November 2013 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Maemi (Post 3043959)
I disagree because she did become thin lol She turned into a sexy Ayu, who's supposed to be the symbol of beauty. If she wanted to become thin because of herself, she wouldn't have started to exercise because of him, which is obvious from the beginning. If they wanted to convey what you're saying here, the PV would have turned out completely different at the end.


I don't think she was trying to be that deep, because she doesn't look ridiculous to me, but sexy and I'm sure that was the goal :laugh Nothing wrong with being sexy though.

Ya, don't think ayu is so deep.... This is a pv, not literature class...

truehappiness 27th November 2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fantasy (Post 3043972)
Ya, don't think ayu is so deep.... This is a pv, not literature class...

This is Ayu we're talking about here. She usually has some kind of meaning for everything.

ayumisrael 27th November 2013 12:24 PM

How would they be able to show ayu's confidence with anyone else but ayu?

Maemi 27th November 2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 3043978)
How would they be able to show ayu's confidence with anyone else but ayu?

Well, if the PV was about confidence, that guy would fall for the chubby girl and they would live happily ever after. Or the chubby ayu. Or whatever lol

Federica-chan 27th November 2013 12:36 PM

I really don't like this video because the message of the video could be missunderstanding. I don't think Ayu would gave a bad message but is what i feel watching it. :°(

Sven@.@ 27th November 2013 12:38 PM

That was kind of weird.

I feel like I know what they were trying to convey with this PV, like a light-hearted, feel good about yourself type of video but it didn't match up with what I actually saw.

It's awesome to have videos inspiring people to reach their goals (like the Born to Be video) and Ayu has done campy videos really well (Startin') but this just feels...off.

I mean, maybe instead of the girl turning into Ayu at the end, why not have her join up with Ayu in the dance sequence with DJ Hello Kitty instead? Like it seems there were other ways of showing being happy with yourself than the way the ending turned out. I know they had to show Ayu in more screen time, but the ending just makes the whole video....ambiguous in meaning.

Surreal17 27th November 2013 12:38 PM

I like very much the interpretation of Yoake..that really made me like the pv more..at the beggining I was really "shocked" but I like the fact that she's always taking risks..well almost always!

Zeke. 27th November 2013 12:43 PM

It means get happy, healthy and fit, and then you'll get that muscle stud diiick. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/pgceiono.gif

maxikot 27th November 2013 12:46 PM

The PV is at least suprising xD Nobody could expect that so that's fine. Whole thing is very light and fine for me - fits the cheesy mood of the song. And i just love how the ending is interpreted like it's something super deep. For me it's simple. Ayu is her idol, so in the end she pictured herself as Ayu with this guy cause she was happy. Oh and animated parts were fine, done in such cheap way on purpose.
Funny thing really, i wonder how it will work on sales.

pimenta 27th November 2013 12:47 PM

I can't watch it right now ;___;
I'll be dying from curiosity util I get home >.<

Cahz- 27th November 2013 12:48 PM

This is how I see it: The girl wanted to be like Ayu so much that she ended transformed into her. So, in the end, the girl who gets the love of the guy it's not her "real" her anymore.
Conclusion: You should be and accept yourself, and not to try to be like another person. If you try to be like another person, you may lose your own self while doing it.

Yoake 27th November 2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Maemi (Post 3043959)
I disagree because she did become thin lol She turned into a sexy Ayu, who's supposed to be the symbol of beauty. If she wanted to become thin because of herself, she wouldn't have started to exercise because of him, which is obvious from the beginning. If they wanted to convey what you're saying here, the PV would have turned out completely different at the end.
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I think I wasn't accurate in my first post. At the beginning she starts to do sport for him not for herself. Because she think that (as the society shows it) she have to be thin & dress up sexy with glamourous dress to catch his attention. At the end, you saw that he doesn't pay attention to her because she just want to look according to the society's standarts (She is not herself and looks as all the girls without personnality who just follow the trends.). She understands it -the balloons symbolise the fact that she is released from society's pressures- & finally, accepts herself as she is. The guy notice the changement & saw her true beauty (symbolise by Ayu). If they had let the fat girl, we could't understand that her spirit changed. She finally accepted herself & looks more beautiful. Ayu is just an image. The fat girl is again here, "Ayu" is just how the guy saw the fat girl. Unfortunately, few people see fat girls or fat boys beautiful because they only see the appearance. Here ayu symbolises the soul, the heart of the fat girl. Moreover, the girl didn't slim down in several days, so it's impossible in 2 secondes. XD
But well, it's only my view. ;)

clover_bali 27th November 2013 12:56 PM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...73998385_n.jpg

oouuu.. sexy! :D

Takakayu 27th November 2013 12:59 PM

Won't watch again.

Earth_maiden 27th November 2013 01:03 PM

I'm a big/fat girl and I didn't find it offensive. I thought the actress looked really pretty when she had her makeover scene. I could see myself BEING offended at the ending, but I choose to see it as something positive, work hard towards your goals and be happy. It's not a lifestyle guide, its just a music video. :D

ayu_fantasy 27th November 2013 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoake (Post 3043993)
I think I wasn't accurate in my first post. At the beginning she starts to do sport for him not for herself. Because she think that (as the society shows it) she have to be thin & dress up sexy with glamourous dress to catch his attention. At the end, you saw that he doesn't pay attention to her because she just want to look according to the society's standarts (She is not herself and looks as all the girls without personnality who just follow the trends.). She understands it -the balloons symbolise the fact that she is released from society's pressures- & finally, accepts herself as she is. The guy notice the changement & saw her true beauty (symbolise by Ayu). If they had let the fat girl, we could't understand that her spirit changed. She finally accepted herself & looks more beautiful. Ayu is just an image. The fat girl is again here, "Ayu" is just how the guy saw the fat girl. Unfortunately, few people see fat girls or fat boys beautiful because they only see the appearance. Here ayu symbolises the soul, the heart of the fat girl. Moreover, the girl didn't slim down in several days, so it's impossible in 2 secondes. XD
But well, it's only my view. ;)

What a beautiful interpretation! I like it!

Maemi 27th November 2013 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoake (Post 3043993)
I think I wasn't accurate in my first post. At the beginning she starts to do sport for him not for herself. Because she think that (as the society shows it) she have to be thin & dress up sexy with glamourous dress to catch his attention. At the end, you saw that he doesn't pay attention to her because she just want to look according to the society's standarts (She is not herself and looks as all the girls without personnality who just follow the trends.). She understands it -the balloons symbolise the fact that she is released from society's pressures- & finally, accepts herself as she is. The guy notice the changement & saw her true beauty (symbolise by Ayu). If they had let the fat girl, we could't understand that her spirit changed. She finally accepted herself & looks more beautiful. Ayu is just an image. The fat girl is again here, "Ayu" is just how the guy saw the fat girl. Unfortunately, few people see fat girls or fat boys beautiful because they only see the appearance. Here ayu symbolises the soul, the heart of the fat girl. Moreover, the girl didn't slim down in several days, so it's impossible in 2 secondes. XD
But well, it's only my view. ;)

But her 'spirit' isn't supposed to change :laugh Just her attitude, in order for her to be fit and healthy. I disagree once again, that is called flirtation at the end, he couldn't see her soul at all ;)

AyuWorld 27th November 2013 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Earth_maiden (Post 3043998)
I'm a big/fat girl and I didn't find it offensive. I thought the actress looked really pretty when she had her makeover scene. I could see myself BEING offended at the ending, but I choose to see it as something positive, work hard towards your goals and be happy. It's not a lifestyle guide, its just a music video. :D

good exemple of Positivity! :yes

ayuuk 27th November 2013 01:14 PM

It's so different from her previous PVs. The cartoon/anime part is very funny!

truehappiness 27th November 2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Maemi (Post 3044000)
But her 'spirit' isn't supposed to change :laugh Just her attitude, in order for her to be fit and healthy. I disagree once again, that is called flirtation at the end, he couldn't see her soul at all ;)

So what you're saying is that you probably won't see it any other way other than "this PV has a bad message"...?


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