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TriStar 9th August 2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect (Post 3157212)
I don't think her recent positions and sales would support that.

2012 Party Queen - #2 98k
2012 A SUMMER BEST - #2 83k
2012 LOVE - #4 65k
2012 again - #7 34k
2013 LOVE again - #1 53k
2014 Colours - #5 39k
2015 A ONE - #4 35k
2015 sixxxxxx - ?? ~30k

She's had only one #1 release in 4 years, and her last compilation, A SUMMER BEST, sold 15k less the first week than the studio album released that same year, which had never happened for Ayu.

I'm pretty confident that sixxxxxx would be the last #1, unless Ayu did a cover album that blew up like JUJU or BENI. But with her sales continuing to fall, and this current week being one of the historically lowest ever in traditional sales for Japan, I truly doubt there will be another #1... even if it were A BEST 3 or A COMPLETE 2.

A Summer Best (just as A Ballads) wasn't a best-of album for me, it was just a summer playlist of Ayu songs... a real best-of album ist just different, it includes all the singles of an era. I hope we will see a real best-of album in the near future. Well... a studio album in April, a mini album in August, and a best-of album in December would be crazy. Maybe they will wait until 20th anniversary in 2018. However, they released A Best 2 in 2007, and A Complete in 2010 after only three years and the concept worked well. So its not too late for A Best 3 in 2015, and A Complete 2 in 2018.

Gustavopc 9th August 2015 04:15 PM

^ A COMPLETE came out in 2008, one year after A BEST 2. To me it was a disaster, cause I think A COMPLETE would have sold much more if it were released some years later...

TriStar 9th August 2015 04:20 PM

Haha, you're right, I messed up the dates. Still impressive that both best-of albums (seeing A Best 2 as one) sold that much, even though fans bought a lot of the songs 2x.

ayumisrael 9th August 2015 04:21 PM

It was risky, it also could sell less because ayu started to decrease more in sales on that time.

A COMPLETE could sell almost 300,000 than the original album (GUILTY) that was released before that so it worked perfectly.
If they would wait it might have done 200,000-300,000 over NEXT LEVEL's sales, or worse, so they jumped on the last "momentum".

A year before that both A BEST 2 sold over 700,000 which was pretty amazing.
I remember some people trolled and said that A BEST 2 flopped, but releasing 2 BESTs on the same date for that time and both sold over 700,000 together was a great fit.

KarenPang 10th August 2015 11:20 AM

6th day - #6

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-08-09/

DCT's best album has been on a roll . RIAJ recently certified it Triple Platinum too o_O

Bigtop 10th August 2015 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3157619)
6th day - #6

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-08-09/

DCT's best album has been on a roll . RIAJ recently certified it Triple Platinum too o_O

DCT - 10,398

OH NO. OH NO!!!

I feared this could happen...AND IT DID!!!!! :O

My goodness...Ayu may have lost her chances of a #1. IN THE LAST DAY!!!!! HOW IN THE WORLD SHE COULD MESS IT UP IN THE LAST POSSIBLE DAY!?!?!?!?!?

I...I can't believe this...how????? This has got to be impossible! Another Seahawks-Patriots end-of-Super Bowl moment...? :no

Seriously, things have GOT to change. I don't think Avex wasn't aware at this. This could end up going too close to call! :O

ayumisrael 10th August 2015 12:43 PM

How annoying.
Oh well. We will know who got #1 and #2 tonight.

TriStar 10th August 2015 12:44 PM

DCT: 4,221 + 3,500* + 3,500* + 3,124 + 2,984 + 4,229 + 10,398 = 31,956
(* = estimated)

Ayu: 17,315 + 5,232 + 2,809 + 2,097 + 1,749 + 1,500* = 30,702
(* = estimated)

She probably lost 1. :(

ayumisrael 10th August 2015 01:05 PM

As expected SONGS didn't give her any boost as well. TV performances rarely do.

UHPlus 10th August 2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 3157639)
As expected SONGS didn't give her any boost as well. TV performances rarely do.

Who the hell watches TV nowadays...?! :irked It's funny to see people blaming low sales due to lack of TV PROMOTION. You make your music available and wide spread on Youtube, that's promotion! If people don't like what they heard on the internet, no one will waste their money to buy the album...

TriStar 10th August 2015 01:22 PM

Ninki for next week:

Albums:

01 44.19 BRAHMAN - Jinmiraisai
02 17.28 Crazy Ken Band - Mou Sukkari Are Nandayone
03 13.61 moumoon - It's Our Time
04 11.36 WHITE JAM - Tokidoki Hero
05 11.30 Vintage Trouble - Kareinaru Trouble

It's so funny. Brahman sold 23k with last album in 2013. So if sixxxxxx would have been released a week later...

But, for A One, it was the same story.

brener 10th August 2015 01:27 PM

oh crap I just checked out the sales, i'm shocked at DCTs 10k... The worst thing is that she fell to #6, I think she could easily guarantee the #1 if she had maintained her #3

LONJJONG 10th August 2015 01:39 PM

Her episode of SONGS received the lowest rating out of other featured artists. Besides, it's not designed to promote her album anyway. Ayu lost her streak like many years ago so we shouldn't be surprised of the rank, should we? :rolleyes

[H] 10th August 2015 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UHPlus (Post 3157641)
Who the hell watches TV nowadays...?! :irked It's funny to see people blaming low sales due to lack of TV PROMOTION. You make your music available and wide spread on Youtube, that's promotion! If people don't like what they heard on the internet, no one will waste their money to buy the album...

I agree on that partly. But in reality, TV is still the media with highest penetration and may push influence. While probably younger people relies more on the Internet, Promotion on TV do get the word out so people will be curious enough (or maybe got sick & tired enough) to check out that artist's Youtube pages etc. And of course, TV promotion doesn't only mean TV performances (esp just 1 midnight performance), but also things like endorsements in drama Theme Songs, starring in commercials, getting music videos out, etc. If TV is no longer working, then no celebs would be still trying to get on TV.

Nonetheless, the best promotion is always a 360 where you go all out to TV, Internet and printed media... and somehow I think Avex is not investing that kind of promotion on Ayu anymore :no:no


How can DCT suddenly get 10,000 copies sold :shakehead:shakehead!! oh well... that's something Avex should learn next time

JinHamasaki 10th August 2015 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UHPlus (Post 3157641)
Who the hell watches TV nowadays...?! :irked It's funny to see people blaming low sales due to lack of TV PROMOTION. You make your music available and wide spread on Youtube, that's promotion! If people don't like what they heard on the internet, no one will waste their money to buy the album...

YT isn't that big in Japan.

TheRainbow 10th August 2015 02:00 PM

Aw well, hopefully #2 then.

pimenta 10th August 2015 02:52 PM

well, #2 it is then... DCT and their out-of-nowhere-boosts are certainly going to get first now.

yamadashun 10th August 2015 03:19 PM

Ouch, it's so near to get her back to the long lost weekly #1... Disappointed though, I hope sixxxxxx at least let her gain back some Japanese market/fans.

njanjayrp 10th August 2015 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UHPlus (Post 3157641)
Who the hell watches TV nowadays...?! :irked It's funny to see people blaming low sales due to lack of TV PROMOTION. You make your music available and wide spread on Youtube, that's promotion! If people don't like what they heard on the internet, no one will waste their money to buy the album...

TV is still very big in Japan, you have no idea what you're talking about.

oaristos 10th August 2015 03:32 PM

That's really sad.


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