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Andrenekoi 14th June 2009 10:08 AM

Yeah, Namie songs aren't about sex at all :B
hahaha

emi♡ 14th June 2009 11:02 AM

Actually one of my friends that is only into like the urban music scene here in the US, thinks that koda kumi could be very popular here.

if only she could just keep singing in japanese lol

waterballoon 14th June 2009 11:38 AM

But they would hate Kuu songs like Moon Crying I guess... Kuu is like erm I don't know, I think she has her own place in J-Pop, and her/her label know how to make sales in Japan.

Her dance songs are so great... but she also has those great ballads that Japan loves, lol... which I don't exactly think will be well received in the West. Just my 2 cents.

emi♡ 14th June 2009 11:47 AM

Well...honestly...I didn't show her any of the ballads...because I don't like them so...

she kind of only saw the sexy kuu.

Most of my friends like the sexy kuu lol the ballady kuu is :/ here lol

but yeah...Japan sure loves their cheesy barrads.

waterballoon 14th June 2009 11:50 AM

Yeah so if Kuu were to come to the US or whatever then her ballads would sell badly lmao, but I think her sexy/dance songs are so good to play and let everyone dance to them!

LinMeiVonn 14th June 2009 12:16 PM

Umm...Asian music without doubt. The chances that you will find a good Asian artist are much bigger than finding a good Western artist. I think that Asian artists add more style to their songs, which are way better to listen to.

babybunny 23rd June 2009 07:36 PM

Asian

njanjayrp 23rd June 2009 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayu's Rainbow (Post 1980657)
I think Koda, Namie, Ayumi, Ai & Ami should go into US market. They would be a breath of fresh air

as long as none of them changes their music and style then yes. Otherwise no.

Also, there is a difference between being an elegant ***** and a cheap one, imo Asian people who have songs that are in a way about sex don't look as cheap and pathetic doing those if nothing else, at least when it comes to Japanese mainstream music.

I always fail to see a point of many popular American artists doing music when in fact they are ready for hard core porn industry:

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/c...-picture-6.jpg

http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/a...gger_boobs.jpg

http://rumorsinmusic.com/wp-content/...pears_vmas.jpg

so yeah to me they pretty much scream "We're all about sex and what comes after..." Can they really concentrate on anything else?

Thank god, I am resistant to those ^^

Maemi 23rd June 2009 08:43 PM

That pic of Britney scared me.

Andrenekoi 23rd June 2009 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1993052)
as long as none of them changes their music and style then yes. Otherwise no.

Also, there is a difference between being an elegant ***** and a cheap one, imo Asian people who have songs that are in a way about sex don't look as cheap and pathetic doing those if nothing else, at least when it comes to Japanese mainstream music.

I always fail to see a point of many popular American artists doing music when in fact they are ready for hard core porn industry:

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/c...-picture-6.jpg

http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/a...gger_boobs.jpg

http://rumorsinmusic.com/wp-content/...pears_vmas.jpg

so yeah to me they pretty much scream "We're all about sex and what comes after..." Can they really concentrate on anything else?

Thank god, I am resistant to those ^^

Yeah... like... women should not show any skin or being sexy! That's why japan's pedo-pop market is so amazing! They don't sell naked women, they sell children with "rape-me" printed on their backs! yay!

njanjayrp 23rd June 2009 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 1993137)
Yeah... like... women should not show any skin or being sexy! That's why japan's pedo-pop market is so amazing! They don't sell naked women, they sell children with "rape-me" printed on their backs! yay!

I really doubt anyone thinks of Britney in that pic as sexy lol god knows there are drag queens (no offense anyone) that look more feminine and less junky than her in that pic. Showing off SOME skin and being SEXY doesn't require boobs the size of a medium sized aquarium imo. So does anyone think it's weird that some of the most famous American divas all have huge breast? Does that say anything? And those "children" you're talking about are called idols and they aren't singers, at least not the successful ones and we all now that only hard core otakus buy their stuff and not the general public and I am pretty sure those 3 are really hot in USA :P oh and don't put words in my mouth :) Once again I think you're mixing music with pornography and those 2 should not really be related, ne?

Kingdom 23rd June 2009 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 1993137)
Yeah... like... women should not show any skin or being sexy! That's why japan's pedo-pop market is so amazing! They don't sell naked women, they sell children with "rape-me" printed on their backs! yay!

A+ LOL

Maemi 23rd June 2009 10:45 PM

There's nothing wrong with being sexy, but there's a big difference between a sexy person, and a *****. I think that njanjayrp is trying to say that western artists (not all, but the most of them) use sex and other vulgar stuff to gain a popularity and fame. That happens in Asia too, but not as much as in US. :) (Just look at those pictures he posted, they may be the most popular western artists). :)

For an example, I can't compare any western artist to Ayumi Hamasaki. There are persons who have better voice than her, but nobody can beat her in terms of creativity and lyrics. :) They just can't... gain success with that.

brand new love 23rd June 2009 10:55 PM

showing skin =/= *****.

idu why anyone is putting asia on a pedestal. not everything selling over there is ~beautiful~ and ~meaningful~. seriously, look at japan, what's selling like hotcakes over there?

o rite ugly boybands who all sound the same.

emi♡ 23rd June 2009 11:17 PM

um wow, this thread got so unnecessary.

Like Andrenakoi said.

I guess having mature women with big fake boobs as the sexy image is a lot worse than having a girl who looks like she's 15 with fake boobs acting all innocent as the sexy image.


And..."they aren't singers"? *cough* *Morning Musume* *cough*


Cory was right. Neither is any better than the other.

TeddyGrahams 24th June 2009 01:04 AM

Wow haha if it's mainstream, then it's Western music. More sounds/themes/artists.

People here tend to forget the diverse music Asia has to offer~ So as a whole music spectrum, all the countries in asia @_@~ Has their own traditional music, which all sounds remarkably different. So overall Asian music is way more creative due to traditions. :)

Andrenekoi 24th June 2009 02:53 AM

I don't understand how a bunch of people who don't like western pop and for this reason don't know the singers besides radio hits and some internet pics can say how good or bad they are o_O

And i'm going to say it again... cuturally, to japanese men, a sexed up woman in the way they are over here is not sexy, a cute kawaii girl with inocent look is... Ayu doen'st have a "kawaii girl segment" in everyone of her concerts for no reason, is sexier a girl can be over there!

So, I don't understand how someone can say that western pop is all about sex if jpop is as sexual if taking in consideration cutural differences!

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 24th June 2009 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emiko (Post 1993205)
Like Andrenakoi said.

I guess having mature women with big fake boobs as the sexy image is a lot worse than having a girl who looks like she's 15 with fake boobs acting all innocent as the sexy image.


Cory was right. Neither is any better than the other.

I agree with emi and Andrenakoi,

I rather see a full grown, legal woman in complete control of her sexuality and who she as a person than a 15 year old girl still going through puberty wearing skimpy outfits she may not be comfortable in and having pictures of such being sold to be bought mostly by 40 to 50 year old men.

Also, a woman's breast don't stop growing naturally until you are 25. Beyonce could have a late bloomer. Or maybe she did surgery. Either way, I don't care.

Andrenekoi 24th June 2009 03:21 AM

I watched The Beyonce Experience those days, and the girl still boobless :P
Those pic it seens bigger 'cuz of the outfit

BTW, Beyonce, Britney or Mariah would be terrible porn stars in Japan:

http://mob198.photobucket.com/albums...o_0023_454.jpg
Hikaru Koto

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cMxLk9ZZpB...xnetwork03.jpg
Airi & Meiri

http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-admin..._kawashima.jpg
Azumi Kawashima

http://www.picture6.com/uploads/alli...S8-1-16293.jpg
Yua Aida

=D

Hope there is no problem in posting those japanese pornstar pics... If there is any, I can remove them...

emi♡ 24th June 2009 04:33 AM

Aww they are so cute.


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