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njanjayrp 24th August 2018 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3284627)
I don't think Ayu ever got proper vocal lessons until the 2010's to be honest. Before that she was always going for that iconic but unhealthy singing she is known for. Over here, not that much, but there is always a comment here or there on Youtube videos complaining about her singing while she is actually doing well.

I still think she sounded best from 2003 - 2005 and I blame PECO in a way as it's only when she joined that ayu's singing technique changed :D

Andrenekoi 24th August 2018 02:30 PM

^A lot of the time people blamed Peco it was just Ayu failing the harmonies.

primavera♥ 24th August 2018 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 3284628)
I still think she sounded best from 2003 - 2005 and I blame PECO in a way as it's only when she joined that ayu's singing technique changed :D

Realistically, ayu didn't have the best singing technique in her early career even if it sounded nice for us and she honestly probably wasn't taking much care of her voice either based on what I remember from forever ago. She really tried to make the high pitched voice work for her, even using certain sounds to made higher notes easier for her. There are some early performances when you can tell she's straining already.

Eventually all of that catches up with you. Now, every now and then, she mentions vocal lessons, but at this point I really think she can only do so much. The hearing loss doesn't help either.

njanjayrp 24th August 2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3284633)
^A lot of the time people blamed Peco it was just Ayu failing the harmonies.

I know. However she made Ayu sound like a dude sometimes.

SunshineSlayer 24th August 2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by primavera♥ (Post 3284635)
Realistically, ayu didn't have the best singing technique in her early career even if it sounded nice for us and she honestly probably wasn't taking much care of her voice either based on what I remember from forever ago. She really tried to make the high pitched voice work for her, even using certain sounds to made higher notes easier for her. There are some early performances when you can tell she's straining already.

Eventually all of that catches up with you. Now, every now and then, she mentions vocal lessons, but at this point I really think she can only do so much. The hearing loss doesn't help either.

Yes, she appeared strained and her singing was unnatural in her early, early career, but not in the years he mentioned of 03-05. Her performances back then, honestly, looked effortless and her way of singing changed significantly from 00/01 for example. Imo, she clearly got some vocal training because her entire technique changed significantly. I do wonder if Ayu Ready might have been the cause. She was singing weekly with other artists, so maybe she did put a larger focus on her vocal ability.

mizuki-7 24th August 2018 05:18 PM

I agree in 2001 her voice sounded less strained and I also think she did some training on 2004 because her voice and technique sounded smoother than before...

kotora 24th August 2018 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chu-lips (Post 3283538)
I miss her monster million seller...
Kinda sad seeing it now
Just saying...
#nooffend anyone...

I love words its so ayuish...

me too, but that is the pre-digital/CD era. Everyone was crazy to buy CDs. Now.... all the CDs are like..."bitch where you going?"

Faiza 24th August 2018 08:16 PM

I will forever say, for me, her perfomance of Haru yo, Koi shows the pinnacle of her vocal ability

SunshineSlayer 24th August 2018 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Faiza (Post 3284662)
I will forever say, for me, her perfomance of Haru yo, Koi shows the pinnacle of her vocal ability

:yes Which was 2003.

mizuki-7 25th August 2018 09:45 AM

It’s seems that trouble reach sales of 20k in China !!

«NEW album "TROUBLE"
Delivery, the number of delivery purchases in China has exceeded 20000 -!
It is the highest record of Avex solo artists! ! ! !
Japanese TOP singer ! ! Proof of popularity !»


KarenPang 25th August 2018 11:14 AM

Week 2 Day 4 - #5

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5854893477

Cahz- 25th August 2018 11:41 AM

http://oi56.tinypic.com/x4j9yv.jpg

melissalove 25th August 2018 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3284724)

It’s holding up pretty well, 30k-40k here we come. :D

Sky High 25th August 2018 05:04 PM

^ Wow, it is good :)

cosmicfirefly 25th August 2018 05:16 PM

Wow she did really well in China. Would be cool to have somehing like Boys & Girls Chinese Version like she did with Who...

maxikot 25th August 2018 05:21 PM

Remember that this is data from only 1 digital shop ;- )

oaristos 25th August 2018 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Faiza (Post 3284662)
I will forever say, for me, her perfomance of Haru yo, Koi shows the pinnacle of her vocal ability

That is one of the best live performances in the history of humankind.

ayu-fan 26th August 2018 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Faiza (Post 3284662)
I will forever say, for me, her perfomance of Haru yo, Koi shows the pinnacle of her vocal ability

Yes along with RAINBOW and A Song for XX, they were her best live performances, definitely her best vocal era (2001-2003). Unfortunately she changed her voice again starts from Moments single release. :(

SO happy for the numbers! I hope she reach at least 40K total.

KarenPang 26th August 2018 11:22 AM

Week 2 Day 5 - #16

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5856098279

KarenPang 27th August 2018 11:07 AM

Week 2 Day 6 - #25

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5857386187


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