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The largest Ayu fandom meltdowns~ (http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120131)

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Originally Posted by primavera♥ (Post 3078242)

I think in party queen, she was trying not to make it too obvious. Which is good. But hard to do. Ideas like making facades and making a subtle hidden messages are always great until you actually have to do them and it's not all that easy. And she didn't really make her albums that way in the past.

I like the fact that the cover and booklet makes her seem glamorous, like what she is supposed to be. Had they put any image of her looking depressed and shit, it would have seemed too obvious to me. And others would think she just wants pity. I like that the whole aspect is left to the music. I think it shows well in the lyrics of the songs tbh. That's why I stan for songs like eyes, smoke, magic lol. I like lyrics that don't quite go with the music.

But the most obvious thing was just the shift in style. Like, parties over, and when it starts again, it's still kinda not happy.

I wish they had done more with music videos. Though image is something to be careful with. Like, especially when it comes to sincerity. Otherwise, it will look ridiculous and awkward like the snowy kiss PV.

Anyway, everyone could have different opinions on how they think it should've been executed whether or not it would have been easy to do so.

I don't know how people didn't get it. Honestly, there would have been a meltdown regardless of how that album was executes because it is ayu and because of that concept.

Yeap, I love how Party Queen isn't all dark, on the same way I love how Ayu usually isn't all dark or all light... Even her most straightfoward music tend to be on a gray area emotional-wise that IMO make them more complex than your everyday popstar, and more realistic too. Partying in order to ignore your problems isn't just a dark situation and isn't only made of sadness, tears and depression.

But yeah, the PVs sucks.

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Originally Posted by ayupan90 (Post 3078266)

I'd forgotten about the date on the mirror. What was it??

We know for sure it refers to the date of her Aneki's passing. It's also the same day that Keiko (Tetsuya Komuro's wife and Ayu's duet partner for a song is born) was announced to have a brain hemorrhage/stroke.

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 3078269)

Oh right, thanks! Ayu seems to know a lot of people who have passed, poor girl. Is Aneki the friend that committed suicide? Or am I confusing that with someone else?

Aneki is the friend that we believe committed suicide and was the subject of untitled ~for her~, I believe.

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 3078283)

Aneki is the friend that we believe committed suicide and was the subject of untitled ~for her~, I believe.

Ah thanks for the info :)

Truehappiness, the date on the Memorial Address mirror? Then 6 years later she writes a song about her suicide? I thought the date and the suicidal chick was something else entirely...

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3078267)

Yeah, Party Queen isn't all dark at all. There's 3 dance songs about loneliness, a bunch of tracks about her divorce, 2 musical tracks about her parents' divorce and an emotional ballad. Super fun!

No, Party Queen's booklet has Ayu writing 1025 XOXO on the mirror. I have a feeling that what happened to Keiko in 2011 gave her a few more unwanted memories associated with that date.

Memorial address' was 0630, which we only really have vague guesses for unless people have found out the truth behind that one. It was assumed to have something to do with her dad.

I think Andrenekoi means that the three upbeat dance songs (Party queen, NaNaNa, Shake It <3) seem fairly benign when listened to out of the context of the album. Therefore, they're a little ambiguous in that way. I interpret 'Party queen' the song to be primarily about escapism—which I think can be interpreted as both a good thing and certainly a bad thing as well.

Hehe, I know. I just thought it was ironic that she is first praising the album for being really dark instead of "party girl!" and then praises it for not being all dark. :P I'm just being silly.

She's right about the grayness of Ayu music, though. Her "happy sounding" songs like BLUE BIRD are more emotional for me than ballads like HOPE or PAIN lmao.

Thanks for the explanation, Truehap~.

Nops, I meant the way you feel about situations isn't all dark and all light. Unless you are depressed (and not on a "I didn't like this popstar single :<" way but medical way) you won't feel all bad or all good about anything, feelings are far more complex and "grayer" than that. Ayu songs rarely are all the way sad or all the way happy and you usually get more feelings mixed in. Life is far more ambiguous (borrowing the word from Coelacanth) than "I'm sad because I just divorced", and IMO Party Queen represents the ambiguity of Ayu's life at that time pretty well... Or at least, far better than she on a party dress looking sad.

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3078307)

I feel you, girl.

http://i57.tinypic.com/11v4q5c.gif

And oh, I'm not a girl, and have no plans of becoming a woman either....

1. When Ayu mentioned in an interview that she thought her career was over because she was making her best album which in Japan, best albums are usually the end of a career. Her fans believed it.
2. Manny engagement
3. LOVE and again becoming LOVE again
4. Party Queen covers
5. Shake it PV
6. Those who hated Eyes, Smoke, Magic
7. The fact that Love Songs has basically the same theme for the whole album
8. That short wig in the Love Song PV
9. Her adding people in her PVs she has a PV or real relationship with
10. All the interludes in NEXT LEVEL
11. How short the NEXT LEVEL album is
12. How Together When... wasn't going to be a physical CD single
13. The guy in his underwear in Born To Be... PV
14. The covers of (miss)understood
15. Most of the MY STORY album (some fans, not saying all)
16. How NEVER EVER and UNITE! didn't get full sized PVs
17. How Ayu was barely in the Endless Sorrow PV
18. The lack of PVs and/or good PVs for the Duty album