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JaysenRyan 19th March 2008 04:25 AM

See this PV was a total mess. She looked gorgeous but it had little to do with the energy of teh song. I can see this PV for a softer song, but not a great energetic song like Mirrorcle World.

My Idea for the PV : She would start off in a white world, with beautiful butterflies and flowers in white lingerie with blonde hair, and slowly as the song unfolds, the world start blackening, the butterflies turn into Crows, her lingerie slowly turns black, her hair turns slowly black, and by the bridge shes totally in the dark world, but then it shifts back and forth between white and black like shes struggling to fight the darkness.

And at the end during the last chorus shes dancing in a room with some of the dancers in white, and some in black, and she wearing a blac and white dres with black streaks in her blone hair. And its sort of like saying she accepts the light and dark in her life.

And during the ned part where its slow again she walks way with the new mix, and the world has both elements of light and dark in it, and the video fades out

stepho_chan 19th March 2008 04:31 AM

lol oh my god the lingerie XD HOT XD but yeah, i thought the music was a little too dynamic for what was going on in the video...but visually it was still an interesting one XD love the song too

SheFliesHigher 19th March 2008 04:38 AM

Yeah, so, why did she have to go all the way to France to film this? What a waste. I think it was pretty bad, and I didn't even like her outfits that much. Ayu made some insane facial expressions, and I honestly felt almost embarassed for her at times. Has anyone noticed, also, that she always seems to do the same things in the same order when the camera is focused on her face as she sings? She stares straight at you, lowers her chin a little, suddenly tosses her head back, puts her hand on the side of her face, slides it down...etc.

Yeah, it was the director's first time and everything, but I don't understand what the point is in making excuses for something of poor quality. There's another thread going on right now where people are justifying Ayu's strict, somewhat merciless attitude towards her dancers, because she is just trying to guarantee high quality performances. And yet some people here say "give her a break! you're never satisfied! blah!" as if she were some delicate flower...as if she herself wouldn't criticize her own work as hard as she could to make the product better. I MEAN COME ON NOW.

zoomzoom 19th March 2008 04:41 AM

^ I wouldn't say she always does those expressions, I haven't noticed them until don't leave me alone.


Anyway, I think it makes the pv somewhat more interesting having been followed by western fans.

The trench coat part was filmed on the 14th
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7357/14then1.jpg

The phonebooth part on the 15th
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1025/15thuu3.jpg

And the huge red dress on the 16th
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/472/16thna9.jpg

naxxo.licious™ 19th March 2008 04:41 AM

I don't care what people say. I LOVED it. It's S-E-X-Y.

Gosh lingerie ayu is.......*sorry i can't describe it cause it's against the rules LOL* I'm only going to say she looks astonishing.

The only creepy thing is the "feathers" ayu, though it really reminded of alterna.

Usually i prefer deep and thoughtfull PV's, but when i can see ayu with these breathe-taking outfits and real backgrounds (not the artifical ones we use to see), i'm satisified *gosh, more than satisfied*

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Originally Posted by soysaucestar (Post 1378413)
And how exactly are you all measuring this PV? Against what other PV?

My first impression on Mirrorcle World PV:

She's fierce looking in the opening, which helped keep me drawn to the rest of the video. Granted, after watching it I realize that there wasn't much plot to it. Nonetheless, the fact that the PV was a fashion photographer's first time doing this kind of work, you have to give the guy some credit.

I saw the PV as a sort of "coming of age" of Ayu. Maybe it's her way of making a bridge over into being more of a grown woman, being known as a little more mature. After all, she IS turning 30 this year. She'll still probably do cute stuff, but I feel she is trying to also move on into the next phase of her life.

Ayu dressed in different outfits was perhaps a way of "reflecting" on different aspects of the coming years. Maybe that's how the PV relates to the lyrics. And yes, pun intended on the reflection reference.

My heroine! :shughug


Kodayumi 19th March 2008 04:47 AM

I love it, especially the phone booth part. :D

But its kinda different from what I think. I thought it would be full of butterflies lol XD

Luther10 19th March 2008 04:50 AM

PV could have been so much better. I rather have Ayu only in the raincoat/hat and run all over Paris chased by those men for the whole song. And everytime she passes over a mirror(maybe just some surface with reflection, like store windows...), she gets transported to another locale in Paris. That would be so much more interesting...
Anyway PV is OK...

bluegie 19th March 2008 05:18 AM

Well, it's filmed in Paris, and she had different outfits/hairstyles/make ups. Probly I won't say it's a waste. We dunno what Japanese people think, so probly they think this pv is wonderful. Honestly I think she should include a bit more plots inside...

But running over Paris, chased by men again isn't a great idea. If she did that I would think she's doing another Dearest pv...

qwerty 19th March 2008 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MemorialAddress08 (Post 1377897)
It was her best PV in a while.
But.
She waited a bit too long to decide to be sexy.
I mean, come on. Be sexy at age 23 or whatever. Not 30.
I'm not buying the whole SEXY! image at all, since the Ayu I love is just. . . Ayu.

And AYU is not some sexy J-pop singer, she's just her own person :)

:rolleyes I'm sorry, but 30 is NOT old. That's just silly to say.

And the PV has grown on me. It wasn't what I expected at first, but it's not bad for the director's first job.

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Originally Posted by soysaucestar (Post 1378413)
And how exactly are you all measuring this PV? Against what other PV?

My first impression on Mirrorcle World PV:

She's fierce looking in the opening, which helped keep me drawn to the rest of the video. Granted, after watching it I realize that there wasn't much plot to it. Nonetheless, the fact that the PV was a fashion photographer's first time doing this kind of work, you have to give the guy some credit.

I saw the PV as a sort of "coming of age" of Ayu. Maybe it's her way of making a bridge over into being more of a grown woman, being known as a little more mature. After all, she IS turning 30 this year. She'll still probably do cute stuff, but I feel she is trying to also move on into the next phase of her life.

Ayu dressed in different outfits was perhaps a way of "reflecting" on different aspects of the coming years. Maybe that's how the PV relates to the lyrics. And yes, pun intended on the reflection reference.

Soy, you rock. :thumbsup That's a really cool way of looking at the PV, and I can see what you mean. :yes

WillofDusk 19th March 2008 05:22 AM

Well I've once thought of the pv filled with all the butterflies and mirrors and stuff. But those would ruin the whole Paris-y feeling.
The PV really turns the focus on Ayu and her costumes were so beautiful.
I like how the setting was edited to be pale but it'd be better if they had enhanced the colour of the red dress. It looked so beautiful in those fan pictures

polka-dot-jewel 19th March 2008 05:24 AM

I'm not quite sure what to think of it. :-/ I mean, she looked super pretty in this video! Other than that, I really didn't get it. I mean, there were these guys who were "chasing" her (yet the chase scene was only for, like, 10 seconds, and then they were surrounding her suddenly), and she was standing around, dancing...eeehhh. I'll watch it again later, but right now, it's borderline good / bad for me.

Now that I think about it, I kinda did like it. I mean, I loved the "woah, yeah yeah yeah yeah" part. And I liked her dancing in the red dress. Her walking in the coat was okay, but I loved the close-up shots of her face...it sort of reminded me of the "alterna" PV.

Love Appears 19th March 2008 05:41 AM

This PV deserves more credit than most have been giving it. I thought it was absolutely great and interesting. Not her best, but far from her worst. IMO, there are -many- previous releases that were more disappointing. One-shot PVs like Daybreak, or Humming 7/4. Ones with only dancing, such as (don't) leave me alone.

The different Ayus definitely represent something. I got a Matrix-like vibe. My boyfriend, who posts under the name "Idealist" here, has a very fascinating analysis about the plot, which he is just about to post himself. ;)

Whereas something like JEWEL was just eye candy, this is eye candy, and it's interesting. One thing we discovered was the lingerie Ayu was looking at herself in a mirror! (Look closely -- there is a frame around this scene.)


BTW I think the lyrics of this song also contribute a lot. For those of you who aren't enjoying it, try using subtitles.

bluegie 19th March 2008 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by qwerty (Post 1378534)
:rolleyes I'm sorry, but 30 is NOT old. That's just silly to say.

Well MemorialAddress08's only 17 (if you look at her profile). She will need several years to understand that 30 is not old at all. Just like now I think 40 is a bit old, but when I'm hitting that age about 12 years later, I will have a different point of view.

Back to the pv.. yeah this one is pretty chaotic. I have to read the lyric translation, so I may understand what's going on in the pv :D.

naxxo.licious™ 19th March 2008 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love Appears (Post 1378550)
This PV deserves more credit than most have been giving it. I thought it was absolutely great and interesting. Not her best, but far from her worst. IMO, there are -many- previous releases that were more disappointing. One-shot PVs like Daybreak, or Humming 7/4. Ones with only dancing, such as (don't) leave me alone.

The different Ayus definitely represent something. I got a Matrix-like vibe. My boyfriend, who posts under the name "Idealist" here, has a very fascinating analysis about the plot, which he is just about to post himself. ;)

Whereas something like JEWEL was just eye candy, this is eye candy, and it's interesting. One thing we discovered was the lingerie Ayu was looking at herself in a mirror! (Look closely -- there is a frame around this scene.)


BTW I think the lyrics of this song also contribute a lot. For those of you who aren't enjoying it, try using subtitles.

BRAVO!!

I totally agree with you. This PV doesn't deserve all the things people are saying about it.

Not every single PV has to have deep-as-hell meanings. I know we always expect that from ayu, but i think having a glamorous PV every once in a while doesn't hurt anyone

Endless_RAINBOW 19th March 2008 05:50 AM

In general terms... I liked it. It's a good PV but it could have been so much better. The song deserved more than she just walking through Paris with those fancy clothes. She looks great in the room's scene, but we almost can't see it, too short. Her last look is the worst IMO, she looks kind of old... (guess what? I didn't like the covers either). I'm.... not happy but... OK with the video. But even though it's good, I was expecting for something so much better. At least, the song is really good, it's growing on me really fast (guess what again, I didn't like "Mirror"). Well, good job ayu, now, I'm wating for your next move.

ladytaboo 19th March 2008 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty (Post 1378534)
And the PV has grown on me. It wasn't what I expected at first, but it's not bad for the director's first job.

I didn't find the PV to be too bad when I first saw it, but it has also grown on me more after watching it again a couple times. It's gone from being not bad to being actually kinda good.

Ayu running in the red dress still makes me lol though. I'm kinda wondering if maybe that was suppose to be funny.

Neo Daydream 19th March 2008 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by guilty_me (Post 1378486)
Gosh lingerie ayu is.......*sorry i can't describe it cause it's against the rules LOL* I'm only going to say she looks astonishing.

grrrrr....
Quote:

Originally Posted by guilty_me (Post 1378486)

The only creepy thing is the "feathers" ayu, though it really reminded of alterna.

those are my fav scenes! >.<
Quote:

Originally Posted by guilty_me (Post 1378486)

Usually i prefer deep and thoughtfull PV's, but when i can see ayu with these breathe-taking outfits and real backgrounds (not the artifical ones we use to see), i'm satisified *gosh, more than satisfied*

I do appreciate the real backgrounds but...
i was expecting alot more from this PV.
I pretty much NEVER say anything negative about Ayu...
BUT
I don't like skanky Ayu.
If I wanted to see that, I'd watch Koda Kumi or some whorish American artist lol

also, I think i hate this director lol the shots were horrible... i hear he was a fashion photographer? well, he should stay there. or learn and then shoot a big-time pv for a big-time artist!

I think Ayu seemed a bit akward cuz the angles and editing were really poorly executed >.<

i've only watched it twice so hopefully it'll grow on me... *shrugs*

hiroshi_ben 19th March 2008 06:06 AM

frankly speaking,the solo part of ayu with those weird nails and hairstyle and the part when shes in those lingerie can be removed...and the phone booth part can be either shift to the beginning part or somewhere in between...if its the director's first time for creating a PV,i can understand it...hope he will come out with more impressive PV next time round....

milky_way 19th March 2008 06:07 AM

After watching the PV a few more times, it's still not my favorite, but I'm not as "WTF?" as I was before :yes

zoomzoom 19th March 2008 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo Daydream (Post 1378587)
I don't like skanky Ayu.

I don't think there was anything skanky about it imo. It was actually quite tasteful. Also the way she looked kinda sad in those scenes.


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