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Corvina 14th January 2010 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal_Ageha (Post 2212383)
Aw, I knew a lot of you wouldn't like this album, because it's definitely very J-Pop.. :( Oh well. That's good news for Japanese fans! ;)

Seriously?
I have the feeling it's pretty balanced here, one half like or love the previews and the other half don't.
Anyway the previews get surprisingly much love on JPM... :laugh

But you're right, the only thing that matters are the japanese fans.
And if Kuu is promoting her album with You're So Beautiful, it has a good chance to be well received by the Japanese.
Cause You're So Beautiful is definitely a song the Japanese will love.

EDIT:
Can We Go Back debuted at No.2 behind Juju on recochoku.

http://recochoku.jp/recochoku_ranking/index.html

Full rankings:
Chaka Uta: #2
Chaka Uta full: #5
Incoming movie clips: #1

FIRSTKLAS 14th January 2010 08:20 AM

Looks like there's going to be a poster as an external bonus now:

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=RZCD-46491
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=RZCD-46493
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=RZCD-46495

:)

waterballoon 14th January 2010 08:25 AM

I felt UNIVERSE is one of her more R&B-ish album thus far, many of the songs are very R&B, and I feel it's a genre that Japan favors nowadays (think Theylma Ayoma or smth). Of course Japan mainly eats bubblegum pop and ballads. :P

lollipop sophie 14th January 2010 08:35 AM

I also agree that You're so beautiful will be or is well recieved by fans ^_^
its a very touching song I think they'll like it along with her ballads maybe thats
why moon crying TW ver. is included as a bonus!

EDIT: oh just wondering (again! lol) is can we go back
a limited single of 50,000 copies??
So it is thanks corvina ^_^

Zeke. 14th January 2010 08:45 AM

I am glad that Step Into My World sounds like Introduction to TRICK.
I felt TRICK could have been something great but something was missing.
Step Into My World is TRICK done RIGHT! Lol.

KarenPang 14th January 2010 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRSTKLAS (Post 2212556)

I wanted to post that but you beat me to it xD

anyway Taiwan press of Can We Go Back will be out on next Fri & surprisingly , only the CD + DVD edition's made & not both editions this time round

that happened for It's all Love ! too hmmm

http://www.avex.com.tw/4th/artist/ar...92696&cateid=2

Corvina 14th January 2010 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lollipop sophie (Post 2212561)
EDIT: oh just wondering (again! lol) is can we go back
a limited single of 50,000 copies??

It is limited just like anytime, but we don't know the number of copies.^^

tenshi no hane 14th January 2010 10:42 AM

I translated the lyrics, but I'm not 100% sure of this translation. The english words dumped into this song made the chorus and 'change'-parts hard to translate >.>

translation (Can We Go Back)
Spoiler:
*Can we go back to the way we used to be?
The butterflies will return now
We can throw everything away, can’t we?
Giving up on what we used to be would be easy
This isn’t how it’s supposed to be
Yeah, back to the way we used to be

When I think about this or that
I start to lose myself as if I'm lost in a maze
It seems I can no longer see the exit
All this is killing me

The changes grow more simple & crazy

*repeat

Everyone holds on to hopeless dreams
Even that hero that came along
Once you think it can no longer be helped
You'll have lost

The time has come
We’ll change back to those times

*repeat

Oh can we go back?
We’ve already become accustomed to losing
We held no fear when we were still children
Nothing will become of our lives if we fight lost battles
Baby can we try?

*repeat

Back to the way we used to be


romaji & kanji
Spoiler:
romaji
*can we go back to the way we used to be
ima modoru butterflies
subete nagedashite mo ii ja nai no?
used to be akirameru no wa easy
ima no mama de ii hazu wa nai
sou back to the way we used to be

nanda kanda kangaeru to
meiro no you mayoidashi
deguchi ga mou marude mienaku naru n da
all this is killing me

motto simple & crazy ni change

*repeat

dare ni datte kanawanai mono
dete kuru ano hero datte
dou shou mo nai to omotta
jiten de make datte

toki ga kita
ano koro ni change

*repeat

oh can we go back
makeru koto ni mou narete kita yo
kodomo no koro wa kowaku nakatta
jinsei makeikusa nante shita tokoro de nanimo umarenai
baby can we try

*repeat

back to the way we used to be

kanji
*Can we go back to the way we used to be
今戻る Butterflies
全て投げ出してもいいじゃないの?
Used to be 谛めるのは easy
今のままでいい筈はない
そう back to the way we used to be

何だかんだ考えると
迷路のよう 迷い出し
出口がもう まるで見えなくなるんだ
All this is killing me

もっと simple & crazyにChange

*repeat

誰にだって叶わないもの
出て来るあのHEROだって
どうしょうもないと思った
時点で負けだって

時がきた
あの頃にChange

*repeat

Oh can we go back
負けることにもう慣れてきたよ
子供の頃は怖くなかった
人生 負け戦なんてしたところで何も生まれない
Baby can we try

*repeat

Back to the way we used to be

CeReSu 14th January 2010 10:59 AM

Thanks for lyrics.
And it's a great news to see that we'll have a B3 poster *O*

Gubsi 14th January 2010 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LacusClyne (Post 2212410)
it's only for the 2CD version?

No you get it with every Version!!!
The Cover from the 2CD Version is on the Poster!
Thats all!

And Tsubasa your late i already posted the FC goodies on the last page! xD

-KuMiLoVeR- 14th January 2010 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gubsi (Post 2212634)
No you get it with every Version!!!
The Cover from the 2CD Version is on the Poster!
Thats all!

And Tsubasa your late i already posted the FC goodies on the last page! xD

WOW that's awesome!! **Free poster** Now I'm thinking of getting one at cdjapan now XD

Gubsi 14th January 2010 11:35 AM

So i ordered the 2CD+DVD Version with the Fanclub and the 2CD & CD+Chaku-Uta Version with CDJapan!

And for everyone who gets irritating:

for normal buyers:
-B3 Poster
(only CD Japan has this at the moment)

for Fanclub members:
-2-sided B2 Poster
-A3 Sticker

I really hope after the UNIVERSE Tour she did a BEST ~third universe Tour~ in fall/winter!
I want my Special Final in Tokyo Dome on 06.12.2010! :scry

Twinkle ! 14th January 2010 11:42 AM

^ And HMV JP Too

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3730365

Corvina 14th January 2010 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenshi no hane (Post 2212621)
I translated the lyrics, but I'm not 100% sure of this translation. The english words dumped into this song made the chorus and 'change'-parts hard to translate >.>

translation (Can We Go Back)
Spoiler:
*Can we go back to the way we used to be?
The butterflies will return now
We can throw everything away, can’t we?
Giving up on what we used to be would be easy
This isn’t how it’s supposed to be
Yes, back to the way we used to be

When I think about this or that
I start to lose my way as if I’m in a maze
And I can no longer see the exit
All this is killing me

The changes grow simpler & crazier

*repeat

Everyone holds on to hopeless dreams
Even that hero that came along
Thought it couldn’t be helped
And gave in at that point

The time has come
We’ll change to those times

*repeat

Oh can we go back?
We’ve already become accustomed to losing
We held no fear when we were still children
Life won’t be born if we lose the battle
Baby can we try?

*repeat

Back to the way we used to be


romaji & kanji
Spoiler:
romaji
*can we go back to the way we used to be
ima modoru butterflies
subete nagedashite mo ii ja nai no?
used to be akirameru no wa easy
ima no mama de ii hazu wa nai
sou back to the way we used to be

nanda kanda kangaeru to
meiro no you mayoidashi
deguchi ga mou marude mienaku naru n da
all this is killing me

motto simple & crazy ni change

*repeat

dare ni datte kanawanai mono
dete kuru ano hero datte
dou shou mo nai to omotta
jiten de make datte

toki ga kita
ano koro ni change

*repeat

oh can we go back
makeru koto ni mou narete kita yo
kodomo no koro wa kowaku nakatta
jinsei makeikusa nante shita tokoro de nanimo umarenai
baby can we try

*repeat

back to the way we used to be

kanji
*Can we go back to the way we used to be
今戻る Butterflies
全て投げ出してもいいじゃないの?
Used to be 谛めるのは easy
今のままでいい筈はない
そう back to the way we used to be

何だかんだ考えると
迷路のよう 迷い出し
出口がもう まるで見えなくなるんだ
All this is killing me

もっと simple & crazyにChange

*repeat

誰にだって叶わないもの
出て来るあのHEROだって
どうしょうもないと思った
時点で負けだって

時がきた
あの頃にChange

*repeat

Oh can we go back
負けることにもう慣れてきたよ
子供の頃は怖くなかった
人生 負け戦なんてしたところで何も生まれない
Baby can we try

*repeat

Back to the way we used to be

Thanks tenshi, I think you did a great job! :heart
Everything is understandable.

waterballoon 14th January 2010 01:44 PM

Can We Go Back has such good lyrics... omg thank you tenshi!

Kagome-chan 14th January 2010 02:28 PM

for now...nothing on YesAsia?

Crystal_Ageha 14th January 2010 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2212559)
I felt UNIVERSE is one of her more R&B-ish album thus far, many of the songs are very R&B, and I feel it's a genre that Japan favors nowadays (think Theylma Ayoma or smth). Of course Japan mainly eats bubblegum pop and ballads. :P

I think maybe I have a different perception of genres (specifically "J-Pop") than some of you. D: Because, they only R&B songs I see are two, and I only see four slightly~ hip-hop ones (but, as with almost all Kumi "hip-hop" songs, they are much more pop--they just have a heavy beat...).


These songs, I think, are VERY J-Pop (as in, chances are, you will never hear this type of song become popular in the Western world):
SUPERSTAR
Lick me
Stay
Comes Up
It's All Love!
Alive
Moon Crying

Which, that's already half the album... The only ones I think sound non-J-Pop are You're So Beautiful, No Way, Can We Go Back and Physical Thing. (Which, a few of those are kinda "universal" music - Like Can We Go Back--this is completely regular rock, which is the same everywhere.) And a few of the others are pretty J-Pop-y, too, but disguised as Western-sounding (specifically, Step Into My World and ECSTASY). XD
I have a feeling somebody is going to try and compare a few to Lady GaGa again.... Which actually helps my point, since GaGa is obviously influenced greatly by Japan. :P

But yeah, what about those of you who don't think this is a very J-Pop album..? Which of those tracks do you disagree aren't J-Pop?

Picaflor 7/4 14th January 2010 08:46 PM

The only songs I like are beautiful and universe. Everything else kind of blended together into one big song for me. Nothing really stood out. I wonder whatever happened to trick too. She has a tendency to sing the full version of interludes at concerts, and then release the full studio version on the next album. I wonder about trick.

milky_way 14th January 2010 09:54 PM

Someone on JPM mentioned that Step Into My World could be the full version of TRICK since they sound so similar :shrug

matt9210 14th January 2010 11:09 PM

At the moment the only ones that stand out to me most are:

- SUPERSTAR
- You're so beautiful (DEFINATELY my favourite :D <3 )

Daaamn, I wanna order this album so bad, but I want the poster too! And because there's no guarentee from YesAsia about getting first press, I'll have to order from cdjapan, and possibly pay customs /rant

Damn high prices! I just hope I have the money :3


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