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jbrat2219 26th August 2008 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1604637)
How is that bad? It's far from bad. It's GREAT, because it means that it's tasuku's work to begin with, so he can do w/e he wants.

[Sure, people might get all riled up like here at AHS, but eh. Whatever. Just because it's not a personally acknowledged "cover that isn't really a cover"... doesn't mean that it's bad]

So if it's tasuku's song to begin with, he didn't copy he just shared it :O

That makes me feel a lot better lol

ストロボ・EdGE 14th December 2010 04:40 AM

Crap I accidentally listened to like a doll. It sounds great lol.

YUP OUT OF ALL THE SONGS EVER AYU COPIES A KOREAN SONG FROM THE 80S ABOUT HISTORICAL KOREAN MEN.

If anything has been plagiarized, it's that one interlude in Secret that totally and completely ripped off that Hoobastank song. No one cared about that though.

StarSUCKER 14th December 2010 04:40 AM

I think I just heard the pop of the safety tab on a can of worms. :x

pepper 14th December 2010 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 2580624)

If anything has been plagiarized, it's that one interlude in Secret that totally and completely ripped off that Hoobastank song. No one cared about that though.

showme!

emi♡ 14th December 2010 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 2580624)
If anything has been plagiarized, it's that one interlude in Secret that totally and completely ripped off that Hoobastank song. No one cared about that though.

Seriously. Was it secret? I thought it was MU...or maybe there's a bunch lol

But honestly, listening to the previews...I mean, people HAVE to be prepared for comparisons, because a lot of the melodies are not really...unique.

And I mean, they don't really have to be imo, I like them this way...but, there are definitely songs out there that are going to sound like these...

and I don't really think it's intentional, I think they just wanted these particular sounds.


But we probably shouldn't get out the Ayu x Plagiarism argument, lest the stans go into attack mode.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 14th December 2010 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2580640)

But we probably shouldn't get out the Ayu x Plagiarism argument, lest the stans go into attack mode.

*gets ready to pounce*

ストロボ・EdGE 14th December 2010 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2580640)
But we probably shouldn't get out the Ayu x Plagiarism argument, lest the stans go into attack mode.

Agreed.

I'm so excited for the PVs... I'm not watching the previews, I want to wait for the whole thing but the CM has me so pumped. Kickin' Distance Love ass.

truehappiness 14th December 2010 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pepper (Post 2580637)
showme!



Hoobastank's Don't tell me. taskinst is the interlude.

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...ght=hoobastank

It's probably better talk about it here.

[You know, it's really hard to find a writing credit for this song. I know people in the thread mentioned that it was written by band members but now you can't even find that credit.]

Sirea 14th December 2010 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 2580624)

If anything has been plagiarized, it's that one interlude in Secret that totally and completely ripped off that Hoobastank song. No one cared about that though.

If you're talking about taskinst, I just listened to it, and it really is quite a common chord progression and harmonic rhythm used in rock music. Besides, it's not like Hoobastank has ever done anything terribly original and inventive to begin with... xD

pepper 14th December 2010 05:02 AM

^ yep, i can hear it. But got nothing really to say about it. I dont care about these things. I ENJOY MUSIC NOT DRAMA <3 (... maybe a little of drama, i promise.)

love in music 14th December 2010 05:02 AM

^^^yeah. that's her only song I think that is completely plagiarized.. and it's not really even a full song, just an interlude. I don't listen to it because it's annoying and I hate how it's a ripoff.

kumikomishitate 14th December 2010 05:05 AM

.....whoa, those two do sound completely alike. Lol. Interesting...

ストロボ・EdGE 14th December 2010 05:07 AM

IDK I mean, tasuku was obviously working on a tight schedule and maybe thought he created something that was actually just a memory of something else. WHO KNOWS.

StarSUCKER 14th December 2010 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 2580656)
IDK I mean, tasuku was obviously working on a tight schedule and maybe thought he created something that was actually just a memory of something else. WHO KNOWS.

Yeah, that's a pretty common thing for people to do without realizing, actually.

SO GUYS, HOW ABOUT THAT LOVE SONGS ALBUM?

Sirea 14th December 2010 05:11 AM

Hmm. Yeah there's a fine line. I hear similarities but the notes and chords really aren't exactly the same. It seems that the first 4-note phrase of taskinst shifts up a whole step whereas in Hoobastank's song it seems to shift up a half step which causes the rest of the melody to differ.

Once the style changes, the chord progression in taskinst seems to have a slower harmonic rhythm than in Don't Tell Me - basically, the chords in Don't Tell Me switch faster. I can't exactly put my finger on the difference, but the chords themselves don't seem to match up perfectly to one another either.

It's kind of a slippery slope. Like I said, there are similarities, but a theoretical and analytical standpoint, the differences seem to be present enough to make the whole concept debatable.

Coelacanth 14th December 2010 05:13 AM

taskinst was an obvious rush job. We all know tasuku can do much, much better in terms of interludes.

emi♡ 14th December 2010 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirea (Post 2580647)
If you're talking about taskinst, I just listened to it, and it really is quite a common chord progression and harmonic rhythm used in rock music. Besides, it's not like Hoobastank has ever done anything terribly original and inventive to begin with... xD

It's more than than just chord progressions and rhythms lol

But anyway...I don't really mind that it's a rip off, but it's a song that obviously isn't as good as his other creations. He should rip off better songs.


How about that Love Songs album. It's taking ****ing forever to leak, and the short versions are so incredibly annoying, and if this album disappoints me, I'm going to be extremely depressed.

Heavenly 14th December 2010 05:40 AM

After i've seen this video of Hoobastank, i realize how much it would be soooo awsome if Ayu had made a full song out of taskinst :yes

truehappiness 14th December 2010 05:40 AM

IMO, it'd be rather funny if tasuku came out of the woodwork and said that he has never listened to Hoobastank OR if he said he composed the "original" as well.

Same goes for this from Granado Espada by S.F.A. which came out in beta in 2005[?] / 2007 [?]~ Not sure if the soundtrack had been implemented fully during the beta.


~tasking~

Oh, tasuku... I love your arrangements and fairyland, so why the heck did this keep happening?

Heavenly 14th December 2010 05:44 AM

^it's even more obvious than the Hoobastank's song haha


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