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Tony G 14th July 2010 02:06 PM

MOON PV Thoughts (Full Version)
 
Now that the full video is out, what did everyone think? Does anyone have any interpretations?

I really like the video. I thought it would turn out similar to don't look back since the video takes the form of things being revealed slowly, but it has a totally different feel. Very dark and atmospheric, perfect for the song. And those goo scenes are pretty damn cool.

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All I'm getting is that clearly Ayu is upset about something, that the room she is in is elegant but completly trashed. The black goo seems to represent anguish.. or evil.. which engulfs her entire body.

The dog flashes seem to just represent a happier time before the events that led to her sadness.

Anyone got anymore to add to this?

[taskin.ayu] 14th July 2010 02:11 PM

I feel the black goo dripping is symbolic of a waning moon, where Ayu's pale white face is slowly being engulfed by darkness. I'm not quite sure what this symbol means, but I hope someone can work that out. XD

Tony G 14th July 2010 02:13 PM

I didn't think of that, that's a really cool observation. Like a moon that becomes whole, but in reverse.

AyuGAME 14th July 2010 02:22 PM

yeah...i'm very-very want to know what ayu trying to say from this PV...
what the ink means? i think that there is corelation between the ink that fall to ayu body, with the ink that drop to the paper...
maybe it's about the story? agghh...i don't know what i'm talking about...the PV is so mysterious....

and the movement that she did on the ink scene is the same movement that she did on the bench...when the ayu on the bench hold the chest, we can see that the same exact movement did by ayu on ink scene..i wonder what it means as well..

i don't want to watch the making video before i received my copy, so i don't know how ayu can make this PV, i mean that ink scene is kinda scary, how ayu can breath with that liquid all over her face, very very amazing scene...

Maemi 14th July 2010 02:25 PM

Boring.

Andrenekoi 14th July 2010 02:34 PM

If one of her dogs died recently, the pv is pretty much about it....

asmAyumi1992 14th July 2010 02:47 PM

imo, the black goo is the ink for she used all over her life writing lyrics.. i mean the whole life of being an artist. at that time being an artist gave her a lot of troubles and make her feel down sometimes..

and for the scene with cocoa, i think, it's the only thing that can make her happy when she was alone..

Okay, this is just only my opinion.. thanks..

*°wann_ayubabies°* 14th July 2010 02:51 PM

i think the pv is beautifully made with the scene it matches perfectly with the song!!!

it's interesting to read people's interpretation about it :)

JackieRos 14th July 2010 02:55 PM

I saw Moments happening all over again.

I freaking loved it, it made me love the song more.
one of my favorite ayu pvs

Mari-chan 14th July 2010 06:03 PM

I don't understand the meaning.
Why her fingers are bandaged? And why the black liquide on her head? I have no idea.. but like watching it.

AyUmIXx 14th July 2010 06:06 PM

^ I think the same thing too..
why she got all her fingers bandaged?
I wonder if it's bcoz on the bench scene, she messed up all the room's stuff?
that caused her fingers injured??
hmmm~

love in music 14th July 2010 06:14 PM

I kind of expected a bit more from the ending, but I really liked it overall. I'd love to hear different interpretations from people because it was kind of difficult for me to understand why the scenes with her dog are there.. I get the feeling it means something more than just looking back on happy times.

KPL 14th July 2010 06:30 PM

Its about lost love. Her lost lover filmed the scenes with the dog.

AyuGAME 14th July 2010 06:38 PM

by the way, because it's a trilogy singles maybe we will find out more about the meaning on her next PV...

GRACE 14th July 2010 06:40 PM

PV was boring, the ink thing looked grossssss. She looked really good on the couch scenes though, and I'm sure it's ladden with symbolism. I just didn't care for it

Maemi 14th July 2010 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 2425635)
by the way, because it's a trilogy singles maybe we will find out more about the meaning on her next PV...

I hope so! It's an interesting idea! I hope the next PVs will be more interesting! :D

agashi 14th July 2010 06:47 PM

i dont get what the mean in the PV...so far..is good for me...just that blackoctopus ink kinda disgusted me...

God_ayu 14th July 2010 07:08 PM

Hmm. The song isnt that dark to me though...

I love the pv but same as alot of people here.. I can't really understand the meaning of the pv.

My first thought was that...

The ink... represents her thoughts...
The words she wants to express.. the thoughts she wants to express... it's overflowing...

Then the mess in the room.. represents the frustrations in her?

Fingers bandaged because of creating the mess in her room.. she accidentally cuts herself with glasses...

She wants to express...
Yet she couldn't do it clearly...

Then the scenes with her playing with dogs..
Seemed like someone video-ed her...

So maybe in the pv...

She lost the "someone" and have many things to tell the "someone"


I agree that the ink kind of scared me. LOL

~kashifaita~ 14th July 2010 07:23 PM

Wow, it's been a while since i posted on here, lol. But this is a really interesting topic and I feel like giving my two cents...

Anyway, I'm guessing the Black Ink was supposed to represent sadness/depression, etc. etc. After her lover died, all of these emotions slowly covered her up, up until the point where it constricted her and made it almost impossible for her to see, much less even breathe. She tried to take it off too, in the later part of the PV, but failed and instead, makes a mess out of herself.

Grief has overcome her too much from her loss. So much, that she can't let go and move on anymore. Even if she tried to, it would still stay and haunt her, and there is nothing she really can do about it. This grief is slowly killing her in the way the oil is covering her up, but making it hard to see reality and to breathe freely.

I think the scene with her dogs was in fact her lover filming her. She does look back (lovingly) at the camera a few times....

The scene with her messed up room is pretty much self-explanatory. She's upset/frustrated about this loss. Maybe she tried to destroy everything that reminded her of her lover, thus resulting in injuring herself. This all comes back to the idea that, her emotions are eating her away, and she can't see what is the truth anymore. She's slowly becoming the reason for her own (emotional and mental) death.

Overall a very interesting PV :yes. Hehe, I thought the oil was pretty cool........

ohsixthirty 14th July 2010 08:24 PM

i don't suppose it has anything to do with the gulf of mexico oil spill? it just seems so uncanny in timing that she would release a video in which she is covered in oil, ink, or whatever it is right when this disaster is going on.

i'm sure its probably as people in the thread have described it, which makes a lot of sense. i really like that scene. as i've said before, the weirder the PV the better. unfortunately, i felt like some of the other scenes just went on for too long and the PV as a whole is a little underwhelming. i would say i like it, but don't love it.

Larien 14th July 2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari-chan (Post 2425576)
I don't understand the meaning.
Why her fingers are bandaged? And why the black link on her head? I have no idea.. but like watching it.

I don't think they are actually bandaged. I thought those were lacy finger caps...a sort of glove thing.

Andrenekoi 14th July 2010 10:34 PM

People...
Old video with happy Ayu + dog
Recent video with sad Ayu + no dog

Conclusion = Dog is gone
There is no big mystery here... Didn't Maron got cancer or something recently?

Calico 14th July 2010 10:52 PM

^He recovered. None of her dogs have died.

ETA: Well, recently.

Andrenekoi 14th July 2010 10:55 PM

^If I'm not wrong it recovery a little before the shooting... Most likelly when the video was already planed and the material/studio rented...

truehappiness 14th July 2010 10:57 PM

It was explained that the scenes with Ayu and the dog were to be filmed as though a loved one had filmed them.

Basically, the PV is about a lost love and the dog was just there to make the scene a bit more realistic. I think Ayu said she wanted to have the dog there so she'd look more "joyful" or something.

So it seems that someone who Ayu loved quite a bit has left her for whaever reason in this video, and she's sort of just feeling broken because of it. The dog didn't disappear... and it'd be weird if the dog was there when she was depressed or whatever.

jbrat2219 14th July 2010 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2425395)
If one of her dogs died recently, the pv is pretty much about it....

And we all know dogs don't go to heaven. They go to the moon! ;D

Andrenekoi 14th July 2010 11:08 PM

^Nops, u r ignorant american! every one who loves japan knows that the moon have bunnies, not dogs! u_ú

ohsixthirty 14th July 2010 11:10 PM

^a rabbit making me a rice cake! nom nom nom!

perfectodub 14th July 2010 11:16 PM

BTW....
"Inu Tsukino" sounds better than Usagi Tsukino :D

(inu: dog)

ストロボ・EdGE 14th July 2010 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2425938)
People...
Old video with happy Ayu + dog
Recent video with sad Ayu + no dog

Conclusion = Dog is gone
There is no big mystery here... Didn't Maron got cancer or something recently?

You think this PV is dedicated to a supposed deceased dog...?

What truehappiness said about it being filmed by the lover who is now gone makes more sense and was what I'd think everyone would assume immediately..

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2425956)
And we all know dogs don't go to heaven. They go to the moon! ;D

:laugh :laugh

Yumsushi 14th July 2010 11:24 PM

It was boring and when the oil was dripping on her head she was just staring out, unblinking...it was weird.

Andrenekoi 14th July 2010 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 2425983)
You think this PV is dedicated to a supposed deceased dog...?

What truehappiness said about it being filmed by the lover who is now gone makes more sense and was what I'd think everyone would assume immediately..

Considering Ayumi has ayupan figures for her dogs and how much love she shows for them, I wouldn't be surprised at all, even if I find it to be very pathetic

JackieRos 14th July 2010 11:28 PM

:laugh I love these posts

something tells me it has to do with her old bf what's his name?

ストロボ・EdGE 15th July 2010 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2425987)
Considering Ayumi has ayupan figures for her dogs and how much love she shows for them, I wouldn't be surprised at all, even if I find it to be very pathetic

But like, I respect whatever you view this PV as, and of course PVs don't always equal the song's message, but this song is about two lovers and the anguish of one of them... There had to have been someone behind the camera sharing that lovely time with her, like with BoA's Eien PV, so it's an obvious past-present happy-sad comparison, even if the dog isn't in the present part. I don't think she would've gone so dramatic with it to make it about her dog.

gallowsCalibrator 15th July 2010 06:21 AM

I absolutely loved it. Beautiful PV; I really really hope it's a trilogy...I'd LOVE for there to be a continuation :luv2

I thought the scenes with ink were like...the ink dripping on the paper was like, a leak, right? So maybe the ink dripping on Ayu was like a leak in her heart caused by the loved one filming the Cocoa scene leaving or dying, or whatever happened to them? And perhaps then the trashed house represents her breaking heart?
Or...am I just digging for conclusions...? :laugh

tokyoxjapanxfan 15th July 2010 06:36 AM

I think it's boring. :(

The ink part was cool, but that didn't necessarily save the PV for me.

prussian blue 15th July 2010 06:47 AM

The concept is pretty even though the black gooey stuff scare me. She even scared me while she plays with them :shakehead

pop909 15th July 2010 06:52 AM

Not her best. I believe it was partially the directors fault though. As I had posted ina different thread, it seems very habitual of this director to have sort of "shock" endings, while the beginning of the PV is filled with sort of... "regular" scenes.

For instance, in DLB, the same thing happened where there was no story movement for the first 2 minutes, just ayu sitting there. The ink scene is similar to the destroyed scene in DLB.

I personally dont see myself watching this video over again :(

habelie 15th July 2010 07:18 AM

I don't get why people think that it's boring :no
A PV ia a PV, not a short film/movie (even though it can be one). Must every PV have a story with a blatant narrative? Must a story always have a lot of scenes with over-the-top sets and movements? There's always something called artistic appreciation.

I got a feel of older Ayu here, somewhere from (m)u to Memorial Address, which I think was a period of some of her best PVs, so yep, I love this PV. I loved the ink dripping down on her, I wonder what that stuff is made of 0.o I got the impression that the long-haired Ayu is like the white paper with the ink dripping on it. Like someone said, maybe it's her emotions overflowing and engulfing her till she's in ruins.

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 15th July 2010 11:40 AM

I've just watched the full PV like a minute ago :laugh

and i think it's not as boring as most people said, it's pretty good IMO...

I love those vintage props she used for the setting, but the mud scene is a bit scary >.<

her dog is just so cute!
this PV is like Moments+Marionette+forgiveness (the mud scene)

so yeah, i love it! :heart

sorry for my messy english... XP

AyuWorld 15th July 2010 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackieRos (Post 2425990)
:laugh I love these posts

something tells me it has to do with her old bf what's his name?

lol,he's NAGASE TOMOYA! :D

me too,i love the ayu's private moment recorded by a loved one scene,cant wait to know whos's he?? omg will we get someone hot feature in the next pv?? :P

123456 15th July 2010 01:21 PM

No offence but it's kinda of boring to me. No much creativity in this pv.

octocoffee 15th July 2010 07:53 PM

I thought the PV was really elegant. I don't know the technicalities of filming, but I liked the editing, the choice of profiles, the lighting, etc. It was visually very smooth. I think, had the Mirrorcle World concept been given to this director, it would have turned out very beautiful. (I stand by the idea that He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named is a decent artistic director.)

The ink/goo was really interesting. Somehow it reminded me of this scene from a C-drama I watched a long time ago, where they said that once you make a mark on white paper with ink, it can never be reversed.

I kind of felt like Ayu, all dolled up with the spotlight on her and dressed in white, was the moon, and this goo stuff, like pain, "eclipsed" her, so to speak. But no matter how much she'll try to clean up the ink later on, it's not going away completely. It leaves a mark that can't be completely removed. Well-done on the director's part.

It's not the most innovative PV ever, but it's pleasant to watch and leaves a little room for interpretation. That's good enough for me. -shrug-

AyuGAME 16th July 2010 03:27 AM

^oh...i love your point there...

i that's what ayu want to say, ink can't be erase by anything, no matter how hard she try to wipe it out, the ink is still there...

Catzi 16th July 2010 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackieRos (Post 2425418)
I saw Moments happening all over again.

I freaking loved it, it made me love the song more.
one of my favorite ayu pvs

:yes There was definitely a Moments vibe. It's like a darker Moments II. Ha ha.

I think that her lover and her broke up, so the black ink represents how she's nothing without him.

freedreamer 16th July 2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~kashifaita~ (Post 2425708)
Anyway, I'm guessing the Black Ink was supposed to represent sadness/depression, etc. etc. After her lover died, all of these emotions slowly covered her up, up until the point where it constricted her and made it almost impossible for her to see, much less even breathe. She tried to take it off too, in the later part of the PV, but failed and instead, makes a mess out of herself.

Grief has overcome her too much from her loss. So much, that she can't let go and move on anymore. Even if she tried to, it would still stay and haunt her, and there is nothing she really can do about it. This grief is slowly killing her in the way the oil is covering her up, but making it hard to see reality and to breathe freely.

I think the scene with her dogs was in fact her lover filming her. She does look back (lovingly) at the camera a few times....

The scene with her messed up room is pretty much self-explanatory. She's upset/frustrated about this loss. Maybe she tried to destroy everything that reminded her of her lover, thus resulting in injuring herself. This all comes back to the idea that, her emotions are eating her away, and she can't see what is the truth anymore. She's slowly becoming the reason for her own (emotional and mental) death.

Overall a very interesting PV :yes. Hehe, I thought the oil was pretty cool........

i pretty much agree with you. Its a simple idea but abstractly portrayed..very very cool

Quote:

Originally Posted by habelie (Post 2426303)
I don't get why people think that it's boring :no
A PV ia a PV, not a short film/movie (even though it can be one). Must every PV have a story with a blatant narrative? Must a story always have a lot of scenes with over-the-top sets and movements? There's always something called artistic appreciation.

Ooh la la !

Quote:

Originally Posted by octocoffee (Post 2427074)
I kind of felt like Ayu, all dolled up with the spotlight on her and dressed in white, was the moon, and this goo stuff, like pain, "eclipsed" her, so to speak. But no matter how much she'll try to clean up the ink later on, it's not going away completely. It leaves a mark that can't be completely removed. Well-done on the director's part.

AH!! so that's how it comes into play.

waterballoon 16th July 2010 04:35 PM

Well. the PV is obviously layered with symbolism that's gonna take a while to figure out. A few things that stood out to me were:

- "blood", which I believe is just red wine/ribena anyway gushing out of the goblet-alike thing in the room...
- her fingers were bandaged/lace up for a reason. it's not symbolic; I think they just decided to use that since they cover her fingernails, and so they wouldn't get stained by the ink when it comes down
- the ink scene is definitely a huge part; it definitely appears to be symbolic of the moon, though it might mean something else...
- right at the end, we see past Ayu putting a full palm to the camera; in that time it was to mean "yay end of our video!" but I think in this current context, it really means something has ended - forever.

This is quite a boring PV tbh; most of the scenes/feel were very reminiscent of Don't look back which could be good, but I think it only worked for a video with a plot like Don't look back, so yeah~ my 2 cents of thoughts ^^

rakeru 16th July 2010 08:15 PM

My friend (also a fan) watched it and said "Whaaaaat?! Did she just stab herself?!" XP

I thought of it as the ink was her writing and it's consuming her as the ink pours over her head. And let's face it, her writing usually isn't exactly sunny. Even her happy songs usually have dark undertones.

AngelSenshi 17th July 2010 12:10 PM

E? I can't understand why some people find it so boring! It's not the most eventful PV but the setting is wonderful, and her expressions are honest, so that should sort of be enough to keep you interested in what's happening, what she's feeling and what's around her.

I really love the PV; hell I really love this director now!


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