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wildconnetta 30th August 2010 09:23 AM

Article about 'crossroad' on AllKPop
 
ugh. really?

Quote:

Prince JaeJoong of the Midas touch: Ayu’s sales explode!

Crowned with the title "Queen of J-Pop", selling albums has never been an issue for Ayumi Hamasaki. But the ‘Queen’ has her eyes set on a loftier goal – to shatter the record for the most #1 singles sold on the Oricon chart, and she’s enlisted the help of a certain ‘Prince’ to make her dream come true.

JaeJoong was approached by the star to appear in a PV for her previously released single, ‘blossom’, and he commented, “Ayumi Hamasaki is a big senior in my record label, so when I received the offer to appear in her PV, I was really happy. Although I feel a lot of pressure, I’ll try to do it perfectly!”

Prior to the release of the news, ‘crossroads’ ranked at 156th on the Amazon Japan site. Official statements revealing JaeJoong’s PV involvement were released on the 27th, and 24 hours later, the album’s sales had skyrocketed to land in the 5th position overall.

Could this be a coincidence? The rise is too sudden and too extreme to shrug off.

The PV is included exclusively on the ‘crossroads’ CD+DVD package which is scheduled to be released next month on September 22nd.

Source: amazon.co.jp, Yomiuri Shinbun, Ayumi Hamasaki Official Website, TV-Asahi

AKP.

Really? They think Ayu will get #1 because of JaeJoong? And haha at 'crossroads'.
Seriosuly though, this is really degrading for Ayu. They're also saying that JaeJoong is causing Ayu's single sales to go up. Lol. No.

love in music 30th August 2010 09:26 AM

How is it degrading? It's just the truth about what happened. I wasn't offended by this at all :shrug

Ranma Matsuri 30th August 2010 09:34 AM

I think we all knew that crossroad was going to get that #1 anyway but yeah, JJ fans have helped boosted the sales and this could possibly give her her highest 1st week sales in a while... like identity said, it's nothing but the truth of the matter so what's to get offended about?

Kingdom 30th August 2010 09:35 AM

lol, but it's the truth. :shrug

nanakopy87 30th August 2010 09:42 AM

i agree with everyone here.its a truth.in my opinion,the pre-order ranking will not suddenly raise from hundred to 5th position because of the tracklist/cover.so,i kinda agree with the article :P

emi♡ 30th August 2010 09:43 AM

:laugh yeah, people are going to have to accept that um, Jae's involvement is going to raise popularity/sales a lot...or well...already did I guess lol

But like people said, she was gonna get no 1 anyway...

Avex should have had like...blossom pv part one, and then part two on a separate version of the single lol that would have really been funny.

AyuGAME 30th August 2010 10:42 AM

for now...i will eat it chew it and let it go...

Yoake 30th August 2010 10:52 AM

you can feel a strong nationalism in that article.

It's normal that her sale rise up. If Ayu appears in a TVXQ pv their sales'll rise up too because a lot fo fan'll buy the cd.

But I don't think she'll be #1 only because of him.
After all M/b was #1 while there are almost none promotions. It's a proof that she really is the queen. ^^

noisy_harmony 30th August 2010 11:59 AM

Who cares for Allkpop? :shrug Seriously.

truehappiness 30th August 2010 12:02 PM

Quote:

the pre-order ranking will not suddenly raise from hundred to 5th position because of the tracklist/cover.so,i kinda agree with the article
Actually, it has happened before on several occasions, haha.

joshohhhhh 30th August 2010 12:10 PM

sales are sales.

LacusClyne 30th August 2010 12:51 PM

i'm sorry..but i don't find it offending.. it is the truth, THSK have a lot of dedicated fans that will buy anything with their beloved artists.

even my THSK's fan friends had asked me to buy 3 copies of the CD+DVD already, so it's no shock that more THSK fans bought it too

tetsuo69 30th August 2010 12:58 PM

:innocent i think the rise had something to do with that guy appearing in the pv but im sure ayu would be able to bring 70 - 90k and beat koda that week. either way thanks to that guy fangirls for the boost :lech

NintendoHTF1242 30th August 2010 01:02 PM

Guess these TOHO fans have never heard of youtube/dailymotion/other sites for the PV ahaha. But yeah, it's pretty obvious he made it rise up. Nothing wrong with that. Just avex being avex.

Andrenekoi 30th August 2010 01:26 PM

^Nops, just Ayu being Ayu... People tend to forget our queen of jpop is also the queen of j-marketing :P

If it was Avex, they would put a Toho member on Koda's video too and wait until the money enter on their pockets <3

njanjayrp 30th August 2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2470645)
^Nops, just Ayu being Ayu... People tend to forget our queen of jpop is also the queen of j-marketing :P

If it was Avex, they would put a Toho member on Koda's video too and wait until the money enter on their pockets <3

They actually did that (with all Toho members :P), it was just that back at the time Kumi was more relevant than Toho so it didn't work that well~

Even though I dislike the fact that the single will sell better just cuz of JJ, I have to admit their marketing ideas are sometimes brilliant~ it's better to suck on the remains of DBSK while their popularity still lasts.

tetsuo69 30th August 2010 01:39 PM

^

avex just want to make sure ayu breaks the record :P

AyUmIXx 30th August 2010 01:44 PM

too bad, but IT'S THE TRUTH..
Fangirls are so so so so so dedicative to their idols.. moreover it's the idol groups era these days if compared to the soloists...whatever goodies they release of the boys, it's just gonna sold out like HOT CAKES! even though I don't refer JYJ as an idol group anymore~

so, alone, I'm sure that Ayu's single gonna make no. 1 on the chart.... but in here.. it's the SALES that we're talking about... JJ's gonna help Ayu to sell more than her usual standards~
but like someone said in earlier post, Ayu could sell well even without promotions if compared to the soloists' standard of sales..so she's still very strong among other soloists, period.

but somehow, i want to think that the pre-sale ranking goes up also because of the covers too.. even just a little, but I believe, it's included~ haha~

waterballoon 30th August 2010 01:46 PM

The truth hurts, deal with it.

majrakun 30th August 2010 01:49 PM

Prince Jaejoong with Midas touch? :laugh I guess that kinda works. Ayu could've gotten No. 1 easily, but unfortunately Jaejoong is probably the main factor in the boost of sales, oh well. :shrug

waterballoon 30th August 2010 01:54 PM

Let's just think it this way, without Jaejoong Ayu should still get #1 faring the same amount as MOON/blossom.

With Jaejoong, she could possibly get her highest #1 week sales since Mirrorcle World or Days/GREEN. Either way she would still get #1 just that Jaejoong's participation would probably skyrocket the sales and totally secure her #1 weekly.

Jaejoong isn't God & Ayu isn't all that feeble if she's alone. :yes

AyUmIXx 30th August 2010 01:54 PM

^
^
Prince Jaejoong with Midas touch ->>> this makes JJ an Arabian prince LOL~~~
I'm just curious of much Ayu gonna sell for crossroad..

waterballoon, OMO Junxiang! ur words always impress me... *BRAVO*
totally agree with ya~

Andrenekoi 30th August 2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2470649)
They actually did that (with all Toho members :P), it was just that back at the time Kumi was more relevant than Toho so it didn't work that well~

Even though I dislike the fact that the single will sell better just cuz of JJ, I have to admit their marketing ideas are sometimes brilliant~ it's better to suck on the remains of DBSK while their popularity still lasts.

If this was Avex plan, they would put Toho members on the 2 singles of 2 of their biggest solo starts that are going to be released on that same week, and make the most money of it :P

That would be big, Ayumi and Koda releasing singles on the same day with Toho members! They would make the most money of their fanbases with the competition, the most money of Toho fangirls and the most money of the competition of the 2 toho members fangirls xD

njanjayrp 30th August 2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2470672)
If this was Avex plan, they would put Toho members on the 2 singles of 2 of their biggest solo starts that are going to be released on that same week, and make the most money of it :P

I wasn't really saying if it was avex's or Ayu's idea, I just said that Rhythm Zone and Ku's management tried it before although they prolly wanted to leech of Ku's popularity and market DBSK back at the time.

AyUmIXx 30th August 2010 02:10 PM

I think Kuu's collab with Toho back then not really a success yet probably because Toho back then was still not that POPULAR in Japan if compared to right now...and they just really started to gain the recognition in Japan started from Dome back in 2009~

njanjayrp 30th August 2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AyUmIXx (Post 2470685)
I think Kuu's collab with Toho back then not really a success yet probably because Toho back then was still not that POPULAR in Japan if compared to right now...and they just really started to gain the recognition in Japan started from Dome back in 2009~

Yup, that's what I was saying, they tried to use Ku to make them more popular.

noisy_harmony 30th August 2010 02:22 PM

^^ not with "Doushite..." single? :shrug

sanzo2011 30th August 2010 02:27 PM

Ok ! i hate JJ ( and TVXQ) but if he can help Ayu sales , i really don't care who he is ! to me , the most important thing's Ayu sales !

nanakopy87 30th August 2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2470578)
Actually, it has happened before on several occasions, haha.

but hundreds to 5th is abit too drastic?if you say its around 10-20,i think its ok.but to 5th is actually happened?

AyuWorld 30th August 2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoake (Post 2470517)
But I don't think she'll be #1 only because of him.
After all M/b was #1 while there are almost none promotions. It's a proof that she really is the queen. ^^

yepp agree :yes

just have to accept this,he's gonna help Ayu to boost the sale,im going to eat it and chew it this time but hey,we got another one,L, and i think Ayu also gonna make it,alone, :D

like Ayu not that so desprate to need someone to help her to get no1,she did all herself all this time,she's the Queen ;)

omg,i 110% totally agree with what waterballon said :yes

SURREAL__RAINBOW 30th August 2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2470664)
The truth hurts, deal with it.

it doesnt hurt me at all lol.

I agree with it all. And I think it was a very smart move :yes I hope they don't blame ayu though, kuu had a feat. single with the guys, and so then why ayu couldn't do something with one of them at least??

anyone making a big fuss out of it or saying how ayu is using jaejoong can go and suck on a dirty sock :P I'm pretty sure this is gonna benefit the boy and help him with his acting career too :)

AyUmIXx 30th August 2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2470691)
Yup, that's what I was saying, they tried to use Ku to make them more popular.

yep, i think you're right about that~ benefit for both Kuu and the boys :)

it's not liked the boys have never used someone to boost their fame up LOL~~~
so everything with this featuring/collaborating thing has benefits for both parties~

njanjayrp 30th August 2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AyUmIXx (Post 2470724)
yep, i think you're right about that~ benefit for both Kuu and the boys :)

it's not liked the boys have never used someone to boost their fame up LOL~~~
so everything with this featuring/collaborating thing has benefits for both parties~

Yeah, well I think it was more their management, I mean they debuted in a Triangle lol with BoA and the Trax and BoA was the hottest Korean artist back at the time and then AVEX more or less tried to do the same with LAST ANGEL.

AyUmIXx 30th August 2010 02:58 PM

^ True2..
so as Ayu's fans, we shouldn't be so sad bout that..
with Ayu waving their towel at last year's a-nation and this year's as well...
that also helps the boys gain more recognitions...Toho fans are really grateful bout that too :)
and, all in all, it's also the talents that each artists have that make people love and fall for :)

GREENdays 30th August 2010 03:14 PM

I'm really excited to see how this turns out!

chu-lips 30th August 2010 03:15 PM

ayu still able to get number one without JJ...
take a note
lol,,,

AyUmIXx 30th August 2010 03:22 PM

^ yes she is still ABLE to get no. 1 without JJ~
but she won't be able to have sales like 100 K for the 1st day sales~
and JJ probably will help her to achieve that amount of sales~
take a note too :)

chu-lips 30th August 2010 03:27 PM

as long as it's able to get number one
not 100k in the 1st day i'm still happy...
lol,,,,

Kazeyomi 30th August 2010 03:49 PM

I don't see anything wrong with that article. It's the truth :shrug face it, her sells will boost as never before mostly because of Jaejoong.
And actually, I don't care if she will become a sort of evil witch who use Jaejoong for her purpose for TOHO fangirls.
I never really cared about sales an positions at all too, but I'd be happy if she will can break Seiko Matsuda's record.
I mean, c'mon guys every fan would be happy for that :laugh.

MissElin_ 30th August 2010 04:05 PM

Well this truth didnt hurt me at all. I just thought that Ayu/Avex did a smart move to secure the #1 streak. Lol.
And I love all the JJ fans who helps Ayu in this too.

waterballoon 30th August 2010 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2470716)
it doesnt hurt me at all lol.

lol doesn't hurt me too. I was referring to some fans/people who're kicking up a big fuss :)

AyUmIXx 30th August 2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chu-lips (Post 2470776)
as long as it's able to get number one
not 100k in the 1st day i'm still happy...
lol,,,,

yea, well let's hope all fans gonna think like you do :)

asmAyumi1992 30th August 2010 04:31 PM

Thanks to JJ for the boost sale.
If no JJ, she can still be #1. But it's boosted because of JJ.

AyUmIXx 30th August 2010 05:27 PM

^ lol at ur siggy, dear~ LOL

yessss we shld think positively :)

amorphose 30th August 2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2470444)
How is it degrading? It's just the truth about what happened. I wasn't offended by this at all :shrug

This.

Polyrhythm 30th August 2010 05:45 PM

LMAO @ the people going "wow so degrading....blablabla...." Be thankful there's SOMETHING going for this single. This is obviously something important to her (the record that is) and it seems that avex has resorted to desperate measures to keep it going.

rakeru 30th August 2010 07:13 PM

At least Jaejoong seemed enthusiastic and knows his place in the musical hierarchy. XP

gallowsCalibrator 30th August 2010 07:39 PM

Meh, it's the truth, ne? Ayu's still the queen ;)

Mari-chan 30th August 2010 08:04 PM

I don't understand, why people will buy a CD, because someone, they like, is in the PV.
I would never buy a Koda Kumi CD, because for example, Ayu is in the Video. If the song is bad.. it is bad. No matter, who will act in the PV:

AyUmIXx 31st August 2010 02:08 AM

^
that always happen with idol groups..whenever their fave idol goes, they'll certainly support~ that's the power of fangirls~ they'll do anything to support.. i'm always amazed by their HIGH dedication towards their idols..

and the same as me too, if Ayu appears in whoever's PV.. I might wanna buy whoever's single too~

BUT we all know that Ayu won't just randomly pick up somebody to be acted on her PV if the actor is not good... she's a perfectionist~

pommy48 31st August 2010 02:12 AM

Haha she would have gotten #1 anyways

But you can't deny the power of fangirls :yes

Cherry Dynamite 31st August 2010 02:34 AM

Ayu will probably get no.1 even without that what's his name korean guy but obviously I'm happy that it will sell better because of him.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 31st August 2010 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry Dynamite (Post 2471259)
Ayu will probably get no.1 even without that what's his name korean guy but obviously I'm happy that it will sell better because of him.

this, end of story.

Yumsushi 31st August 2010 03:25 AM

How is using Jaejoong any different than having a great drama tie-in ala Hana Yori Dango or the Vidal Sasson commercials? Couldn't one argue that the singles wouldn't have been as successful without them? The only reason this is being discussed is because its at/by a website which lives to glorify Kpop.

LacusClyne 31st August 2010 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chu-lips (Post 2470776)
as long as it's able to get number one
not 100k in the 1st day i'm still happy...
lol,,,,

i would be happy too. but just for this single... i was worried a while bck, as it's the same day as kuu's ballad single. I was worried about the sales figure...

since japanese love ballads, and this single actually have [walk] 10th anniversary version and a pv, which a lot of fans are WANT and love. that's why i was worried that ayu's streak is a bit dangerous....

so she have to sell more then kuu, now with Hero's fans buying the CD, it should be safe...

Kazeyomi 31st August 2010 04:29 AM

^
oh my.. I didn't thought about that.
I'm scared now ;_; (lol jk, but would be really sad if she'll lose her streak.)

Polyrhythm 31st August 2010 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LacusClyne (Post 2471376)
i would be happy too. but just for this single... i was worried a while bck, as it's the same day as kuu's ballad single. I was worried about the sales figure...

since japanese love ballads, and this single actually have [walk] 10th anniversary version and a pv, which a lot of fans are WANT and love. that's why i was worried that ayu's streak is a bit dangerous....

so she have to sell more then kuu, now with Hero's fans buying the CD, it should be safe...

Yeah its so rigged. I wish Avex would give Kumi the other 2 members for her PV.

Ranma Matsuri 31st August 2010 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yumsushi (Post 2471342)
How is using Jaejoong any different than having a great drama tie-in ala Hana Yori Dango or the Vidal Sasson commercials? Couldn't one argue that the singles wouldn't have been as successful without them?

Precisely. You can also say, it's no different from a collab when you have a famous artist being featured another (either equally or more) famous artist's song and video. Like Beyonce on Telephone. Or Rihanna on Run This Town. I'm sure their fans bought those singles/videos just because they were up there. Did that make Jay-Z and Gaga look desperate for sales? It's just good marketing, you have fans of both artists buying the same product to boost sales and possibly even getting people who weren't interested in the other artist before to check out their other work (which from the reports of the DBSK fans here, seems to be happening). Either way, it's a win for the record company, a win for both artists involved, and just good business sense. :shrug

It's promo y'all... you know, that thing we barely saw ANY of with the last single. :laugh

love in music 31st August 2010 04:54 AM

^^ Well, we'll just have to see how much Kumi's ballad single sells to see if she did originally have a chance of beating Ayumi without the JYJ member and promo. If Kuu makes it over the MOON/blossom first week, then yeah she probably had a chance. But I doubt she will. Those that get disappointed that Kumi didn't outsell Ayu this time can just wait until Kuu releases her next album~

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Originally Posted by Ranma Matsuri (Post 2471425)
Precisely. You can also say, it's no different from a collab when you have a famous artist being featured another (either equally or more) famous artist's song and video. Like Beyonce on Telephone. Or Rihanna on Run This Town. I'm sure their fans bought those singles/videos just because they were up there. Did that make Jay-Z and Gaga look desperate for sales? It's just good marketing, you have fans of both artists buying the same product to boost sales and possibly even getting people who weren't interested in the other artist before to check out their other work (which from the reports of the DBSK fans here, seems to be happening). Either way, it's a win for the record company, a win for both artists involved, and just good business sense. :shrug

It's promo y'all... you know, that thing we barely saw ANY of with the last single. :laugh

Yeah, I agree with you on this. I'm very happy there is actually some big promotion this time lol.

C+R+E+AYUMI 31st August 2010 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by identity (Post 2470444)
How is it degrading? It's just the truth about what happened. I wasn't offended by this at all :shrug

agree..i don't see the problem either

AyUmIXx 31st August 2010 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranma Matsuri (Post 2471425)
Precisely. You can also say, it's no different from a collab when you have a famous artist being featured another (either equally or more) famous artist's song and video. Like Beyonce on Telephone. Or Rihanna on Run This Town. I'm sure their fans bought those singles/videos just because they were up there. Did that make Jay-Z and Gaga look desperate for sales? It's just good marketing, you have fans of both artists buying the same product to boost sales and possibly even getting people who weren't interested in the other artist before to check out their other work (which from the reports of the DBSK fans here, seems to be happening). Either way, it's a win for the record company, a win for both artists involved, and just good business sense. :shrug

It's promo y'all... you know, that thing we barely saw ANY of with the last single. :laugh

THIS!! COMPLETELY AGREE :)

JackieRos 31st August 2010 03:22 PM

I agree with this article :shrug sure she always gets number one but
there is nothing wrong with a little help and note she asked him to be in it because
she wanted him to be in the pv not because of sales and whatnot.

It's annoying for people to put ayu on a high pedestal.

Yuukiru Imai 31st August 2010 05:05 PM

what the....???
cool...!!! >_<

PoetGirl 31st August 2010 06:32 PM

ofcourse JayZ looks desparate with his lame pop songs and featuring lame pop singers
on singles. I dont consider him rapper anymore, but thats another story.

In ayu case I think no one looks desparate lol, cuz its just to boost the sales not to be
recognized at all.

koumori 31st August 2010 06:37 PM

I agree with Ranma Matsuri's post, nothing more different than a collab. It's not a bad thing. It's not like he's singing the song for her. :laugh I can see why some fans would dislike the fact she's selling more based on his appearence, but I think fans would be more disappointed if she didn't reach #1.


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