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waterballoon 17th September 2010 03:38 AM

Professional Critics Rank K-Pop's Top 5 Best & Worst Idols
 
Take a read at this interesting article; the critics explain why they chose the idols too:

http://www.allkpop.com/2010/09/profe...nd-worst-idols

And for those who don't wanna read, here are the rankings:

Top 5 Best Idols:
1. BoA
2. SNSD
3. BIG BANG
4. S.E.S
5. DBSK/TVXQ/Tohoshinki

Top 5 Worst Idols:
1. C.N. BLUE
2. ZE:A
3. SUPER JUNIOR
4. H.O.T
5. Rain

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What do you guys think? Personally I think TVXQ should rank higher lol; the reasons stated for "worst" idols aren't totally ungrounded actually, as in they made sense, so I could understand why lol

love in music 17th September 2010 03:48 AM

they got BoA right. i was surprised at SNSD's position being that high..i'd expect critics to tear them apart. i'm happy for them though~ also i don't think super junior should be on the worst list.

holy crap at the comments section on that site. brb to make some popcorn and read all of them and choke while laughing so hard.

brand new love 17th September 2010 04:01 AM

i agree with most of this list, though i don't understand why cn blue is number one on the worst list. the article basically says they're the worst for being accused of plagiarizing when a lot of k-pop has been plagiarized. so why chose them of all groups? because they're a fake band? idgi.

primavera♥ 17th September 2010 04:02 AM

Well on either list I only like BoA. She has nice songs. So I think its good she's at top cuz she owns all by herself. What a doll. :D

waterballoon 17th September 2010 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by brand new love (Post 2489584)
i agree with most of this list, though i don't understand why cn blue is number one on the worst list. the article basically says they're the worst for being accused of plagiarizing when a lot of k-pop has been plagiarized. why chose them of all groups? because they're a fake band? idgi.

yeah... I don't get the plagiarizing part.. they've plagiarized songs? And they were kinda unhappy/pissed about rock bands "passing off" as idol groups as well.... lol well that was the only thing I disagreed about

Ranma Matsuri 17th September 2010 04:07 AM

*reading comments* LOL @ the hating on BoA and SNSD, fangirls I swear.

And even though idgaf about DBSK I'm surprised they weren't higher and also didn't expect the Wonder Girls to be missing from that list but oh well. Go SNSD! XD

brand new love 17th September 2010 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2489590)
yeah... I don't get the plagiarizing part.. they've plagiarized songs? And they were kinda unhappy/pissed about rock bands "passing off" as idol groups as well.... lol well that was the only thing I disagreed about

they've been accused of plagiarism, but tbh accusations like that are sadly common in kpop so it makes no sense to choose them for that reason alone. the person who wrote the article just sounds bitter about an idol group pretending to be a band.

Kingdom 17th September 2010 04:12 AM

I agree with the WORST list excluding 1 & 5, they are good.

I strongly disagree with the TOP list. BoA is a good artist, but she is not number 1.

Idk, they said professional reviewers made this list but it seems more like an SM stan.

ps this comment on allkpop made me laugh.

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iheartBigBang2ne1 - September 16, 2010 at 10:07 PM | #
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Like: Thumb up +3

my unbiased list
best 5
1. 2ne1
2. bigbang
3. dbsk
4. ses
5. suju
Worst 5
1.snsd
2.snsd
3.snsd
4.snsd
5.snsd

Ranma Matsuri 17th September 2010 04:27 AM

^LOL. XD

This made me roll:

Quote:

Snsd deserves to be in the best list.
2ne1 seems to be missing from the worst list though.
worst=2ne1
:roflmao

And truest comment of the night:

Quote:

LOL @ the people saying too much bias, maybe you guys are just to ‘biased’ to your idols yourselves.

waterballoon 17th September 2010 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by brand new love (Post 2489593)
they've been accused of plagiarism, but tbh accusations like that are sadly common in kpop so it makes no sense to choose them for that reason alone. the person who wrote the article just sounds bitter about an idol group pretending to be a band.

they didn't seem to like F.T Island cos they were a rock band passing off to be an idol group too... lol oh well~

and oh the comments xD Most of them are meant to be ignored :yes the stans there are ridiculously trollish lol

love in music 17th September 2010 04:54 AM

i love how people on akp are saying the professional critics aren't really professionals because they didn't put their favorite group near the top :laugh
i was loling for a good while at the comments but then some just got scary and creepy D:

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WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

**** THAT!! RAIN SHOULD NEVER!!! EVER BE ON ANY WORSE LIST!! THIS MAN IS KING!!! I REALLY WANT TO HURT THESE CRITICS!! THEY ARE SOME CERTIFIED HATERS!!! CAUSE HES A “WORLD STAR” GET THE **** OUTA HERE!!

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

The ENTIRE WORST LIST IS A ****ING FAIL. WHERE ARE THESE LOSER GIRL GROUPS WHO CAN’T SING WORTH ****? GMAFB
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WUT WUT WUUUUUUUT?!
NO.1: WHY IS DBSK NOT NO.1 ON THE BEST?!
NO.2: WHY IS SNSD ABOVE DBSK?! THEY AREN’T THAT GREAT.
NO.3: WHY IS SUPER JUNIOR IN THE WORST FIVE?! OBVIOUSLY THEY’VE NEVER HEARD SUPER JUNIOR. IT MUST BE.
NO.4: I REALLY LOVE BIG BANG BUT DBSK IS THE BEST THAT EVER WAS. SERIOUSLY.

THE. BEST. THAT. EVER. WAS.

GET IT RIGHT!
srsly i'm so scared omg

Ranma Matsuri 17th September 2010 05:02 AM

lul @ this gem:

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THIS THING IS A *****.
NOTHING IS TRUE SO **** THAT.
BEST:
1. SJ
2. SJ
3. SJ
4. SJ
WORST:
1. SNSD
2. SNSD
3. SNSD
4. SNSD
Seriously, no talent?
They must be both blind and deaf.
Sorry for being biased but what?? SNSD above DBSK? Rain, HOT and SJ is the worst? WTF.
RETARD.
At least this person knows her bias, unlike the other blissfully unaware morons commenting. Seriously the #1 complaint is 'the critics are biased' and then they include their own obviously biased list. XD

NintendoHTF1242 17th September 2010 05:04 AM

um what a dumb list. kthxbai.

Kingdom 17th September 2010 05:13 AM

why is it that 90% of k-pop stans are mentally challenged it seems. at least on the internet :laugh

Ranma Matsuri 17th September 2010 05:21 AM

^LOL ikr?

Best comment of the night:

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There’s about as much ignorance in this thread as the oh so hated “netizens”. SO tell me again, what it is that differentiates you “international” fans from them again?
:roflmao

waterballoon 17th September 2010 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NintendoHTF1242 (Post 2489636)
um what a dumb list. kthxbai.

who's that cutie at your ava?

and lol K-Pop stans scare me some times... what irony to call the critics biased yet their own preferred lists aren't... that fair anyway :laugh

JackieRos 17th September 2010 05:24 AM

only S.E.S. belong in the best idols

I don't get the hype in SNSD

Kingdom 17th September 2010 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2489646)
who's that cutie at your ava?

it's not my av but it's MC Mong.

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Originally Posted by JackieRos (Post 2489648)

I don't get the hype in SNSD

(mostly) cute girls who (some of them anyway) have good singing voices. It's marketing, just like most idol groups have.

They are popular in Japan too, though, so it's kind of undeniable that they're likeable.

milky_way 17th September 2010 05:35 AM

Allkpop's comment section is a cesspool, but it brings so much lulz :laugh

waterballoon 17th September 2010 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ero-kakkoii (Post 2489649)
it's not my av but it's MC Mong.

oh isn't he the one who skipped his military service..? *googles* omg okay he's.. not that.. cutie anymore~ :laugh

anyway I'm pretty sure each of us has an "best idol" list to us... obviously it's gonna differ from the "professional critics" or those retarded stans commenting on the site... we should look at such things with a wide heart lol, I never believe any of these anyway, what I think is best - is best. :D

George 17th September 2010 06:04 AM

Personally I don't understand the need for professional critic for music since everyone has different preference and favorites, it can never be unbiased the only thing that set them apart is they get paid while we don't.

Polyrhythm 17th September 2010 06:49 AM

"Professional Critics"? Seriously? 0_o..........:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh......


At least they made the right choice for #1......did something right

hearted 17th September 2010 12:10 PM

LMAO THOSE COMMENTS OMG :roflmao



but im seriously wtfing at HOT in the worst list! and also dbsk #5???? um okay

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 17th September 2010 02:43 PM

alrighty, I just hate Super Junior's current image now... T_T

so trashy and cheap... :yes

TITANIC 17th September 2010 03:13 PM

why they should make a list of worst Idol. that kills their images

Tom Punks 17th September 2010 06:15 PM

lol @ everyone who thinks Super Junior doesn't deserve to be on the worst idol list.

I agree with what they said about Suju; Suju just don't have talent to match their popularity. :yes I mean, there's only a few people in Suju who actually have any real singing talent (Yesung, Ryeowook, Kyuhyun) while most of them just have... passable, listenable voices but can't actually sing. That's like, 3 or 4 people out of 13 (or now 11 or whatever since they're so scandalous).

Not trying to hate on Suju but they're so incredibly overrated and they're really not THAT talented to make up for it.

But seriously, why do you guys care so much about who was on what list? It's just a list made by people who think they're all-that and know everything about music. :rolleyes

Kingdom 17th September 2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Punks (Post 2490327)
lol @ everyone who thinks Super Junior doesn't deserve to be on the worst idol list.

I agree with what they said about Suju; Suju just don't have talent to match their popularity. :yes I mean, there's only a few people in Suju who actually have any real singing talent (Yesung, Ryeowook, Kyuhyun) while most of them just have... passable, listenable voices but can't actually sing. That's like, 3 or 4 people out of 13 (or now 11 or whatever since they're so scandalous).

Not trying to hate on Suju but they're so incredibly overrated and they're really not THAT talented to make up for it.

But seriously, why do you guys care so much about who was on what list? It's just a list made by people who think they're all-that and know everything about music. :rolleyes


I think most of us are laughing at them, not taking them seriously :laugh

It's the dumb people on allkpop who are freaking out.

Damita 17th September 2010 07:21 PM

#5 for DBSK is high enough for them, I never got their appeal...

Lizzyboo 17th September 2010 07:51 PM

so, i didnt read the article lol but I wonder why SNSD is ranked on the best list and Super junior is on the Worst list lol they are like boy and girl versions of eachother (to me anyway :P) kind of like Big Bang and 2ne1, which yay for my Bias Big Bang!! ^_^ Fans can be so scary!! :nervous

Ranma Matsuri 17th September 2010 08:23 PM

^Never thought of that. I always considered SNSD to be like Korea's answer to Momosu since around the time of their formation Momosu had exactly 9 members. xD

Are those twats at AllKpop still going at it? lol You'd think it was a list sent straight from the Gods themselves rather than a random group of critics.

Lizzyboo 17th September 2010 08:29 PM

^ lol that could be too ^_^ i was just saying that to me they were like the girl version :P momosu is morning musume right? i guess snsd is like them, except they dont get kicked out for aging :laugh

Kingdom 17th September 2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lizzyboo (Post 2490496)
except they dont get kicked out for aging :laugh

yet...

Lizzyboo 17th September 2010 08:40 PM

^ true o.o lol

Ranma Matsuri 17th September 2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lizzyboo (Post 2490496)
i guess snsd is like them, except they dont get kicked out for aging :laugh

:roflmao

I've said it before, but just wait a few more years and SNSD will be having their first "graduation". And the cycle will begin. :laugh

Btw, has anyone checked out the comments section on the JYJ drama? Fangirl meltdowns are effing hilarious I swear.

primavera♥ 17th September 2010 09:22 PM

Wait what happened with JYJ... Coming from school I'm out of the loop.

Lizzyboo 18th September 2010 01:13 AM

^ their company is accused of blackmail and other things so their activities are on hold (if im not mistaken, i dont follow them so i just heard this through the grapevine)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranma Matsuri (Post 2490526)
:roflmao

I've said it before, but just wait a few more years and SNSD will be having their first "graduation". And the cycle will begin. :laugh

Btw, has anyone checked out the comments section on the JYJ drama? Fangirl meltdowns are effing hilarious I swear.

i can imagine :rolleyes lol

Calico 18th September 2010 02:42 AM

Yeaaah this is why I feel like I can't have actual conversations about K-pop without death. :laugh

jkm444 18th September 2010 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by hearted (Post 2489986)
LMAO THOSE COMMENTS OMG :roflmao



but im seriously wtfing at HOT in the worst list! and also dbsk #5???? um okay

agree with you on HOT that group is such a huge influence on many of the boybands right now!!


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