Do you rule artists out?
 

Like I always start my threads; sorry if this has been brought up before, but the search function is screwing me over atm. :headache

Like the title says.

Do you ever totally rule out an artist?

Just now I saw a place where you could download Kuu's new single '好きで好きで好きで'. Honestly I've never liked her music much, and I don't have a single song of her's in my Spotify or Itunes library. But I'm still downloading it; somehow I just keep thinking that this might be it. The single released by Kuu that will rock my socks off.

I even downloaded Namie's latest album, though I swore I never would when I heard BODY FEELS EXIT on youtube. Now, I really learned my lesson there. Man did that music appeal to me!

So. Are there any artist you are certain you will never give 'another chance'?

probably artistes that're heavy metal , trance , techo driven as these 3 music genres are obviously not my fave

a little bit of them is OK but in general , I'm not a fan of these genres

Basically any boy band, though I have liked a couple songs by Tohoshinki. I feel it's all contrived, and I have given several chances to Jpop boy bands trying to be open minded but I still feel the same way.

That and Visual-kei.

hmm...i'm not really so picky with music, so i basically listen to anything. except visual kei because i feel like their image is too much for me. and maybe some rap artists here and there. but i find it funny how in jpop, i listen to R&B, techno, etc... but i would never listen to those genres if i was listening english music. to me it's all better in japanese :roflmao

i won't listen to the korean boybands or girlbands, though. i just don't find it appealing, along with kpop in general. i'd rather just stick to jpop. there's alot more diversity and i've been listening to it regularly for like..4 or 5 years. :yes so i feel the most comfortable listening to it.

@Edge: unless one knows what they're looking for its too hard to find avkei band they like as they're all too different and many subgenres.
Its only with the steadfastness of my best friend that I wa sable to accept vkei. And how much I love rock music
Although of course people not into rock are expected to dislike it. But some band (like some oshare-kei) are so pop rock moreso than ayu at times.
Its quite complex imo, finding the right band. Its full of lovely thought-provoking lyrics, vkei. And brings many emotions in me depending on the band.
But yeah. Totally glad I didn't miss out cuz it helped me realize how much I love rock music. Which helps with western rock.

Edit: on another note it does bother me a bit when people don't take vkei seriously or treat it jokingly. I don't see how that ever made sense.
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If I wouldve. I wouldn't have ayu (my dearest). I wouldn't have MUCC (my dearest band). And I wouldn't have my fav songs from random artists. U see.
I always feel like each artists has that ONE song I must love. So when I get the chance I try them again even if I didn't originally like them. I just don't wanna miss out

When I made a kpop thread for suggestions I had a hard time finding something but then someone (labello I belive) posted Loveholics. I wasn't totally in love but I downloaded the album and its some y fav music ever now. A different facet.
And there's always a few kpop songs I like. Like trying G-Dragons Butterfly. I didn't give up and I found that piece of beauty. Lovely song

There's only a few artists who can make songs I generally adore consistently (ayu, Eiko Shimamiya, MUCC, An Cafe)
But I never rule out other artists even if they're from a less preferred genre of mine like kpop. There's gotta be something and I hate missing out
Lots of these little fav songs here and there come from that ^___^

Another example was Perfume. I had heard some songs here and there but none I truly liked much. When I heard Fushizen na Girl this year I fell lin love with it. Its that perfect song I was looking for.
Even if the later and before I still don't love

Same with JASMINE (although I love it now) I used to not like Sad to Say. But I tried her again later. LOVE that girl :heart

I'd just be missing out. It works same for J-rock :yes so many bands. I just disregarded at first. My mistake totally

But it takes time. And I have to kinda stumble upon those things or its just perfect timing. I'm still trying to find a kuu ballad I love. Not with this single but there's still hope. But she can make some nice upbeat songs so why not?

I try not to completely rule artists out just because they may have a song that I really like once in a while like Perfume's 575~ I can't stand the rest of their music, but I do like this song.

I do, however, rule out Morning Musume and other Japanese girls groups similar to them. I tried to like them, but it will just never work :thud

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I feel the same way about Musume. I tried so desperately to find that one song that I really liked, but I never did >.<

Visuel kei bands is something I don't see myself in listening to as they don't appeal to me

then again with that said , everything they had going on are just images at the end of the day

I used to have that with DAIGO STARDUST . I really dislike the way & let alone various images DAIGO used to be like when he was solo

but after I discover that the way he sang & also the songs he did when he was DAIGO STARDUST is almost the same as BREAKERZ (there're some differences for both here & there) , I kinda grew to appericate his solo works & I guess he taught me something that doesn't mean someone looked o_o , you shouldn't give him/her a chance to listen to their music

Visual kei bands, H!P, and YUI are the three I absolutely completely totally really really really really really really hate.

I used to say that I didn't want to have anything to do with VisualKei, but then I got myself the world's best friend, and boy did she live for visualkei. I actually like (very few) visualkei artists now.

I'll list a few of those I'm not ever going to give a chance again. They are few, because curiousity always gets the better part of me, so to speak.

Kana (yes, the screaming one)
Gackt
Morning Musume
Yuko Ogura
C-ute

I'm not a fan of boy band, but I do have some songs that I like from NEWS or KATTUN even though I dont listen as much as my favorites.

I dont think I'll be listening to girl group like girls generation, momosu, and any other Korean girl band at these time. Not to mention visual kei isnt my cup of tea too. I've tried some miyabi's song since I thought his album cover is so cool, but sorry, his music is just too much for me

Boy bands, Girl bands and, Korean artists. That's pretty much it.

I usually tend to rule out all the visual kei bands. Their image just turns me off so I never bothered. Maybe some day.

I use to rule out kpop(w/ the exception of 2NE1 & BoA) but recently I've started to like it.

I try never to rule out people, but I also know what I don't like.

One thing I CANNOT stand, it's the super poppy, high pitched vocals, girl groups.

I just cant take it. So I've ruled out a lot of people, like the H!P, and like Ai Otsuka. I just can't stand her voice.

There are some other unique voices I can't stand either. Like Shiina Ringo. I have so much respect for her, but I just cant listen to the music.


But if they ever had a song I liked...I wouldn't just not listen to it right. But I don't pursue that kind of music, or really hold it in any high regard. Especially when sooo much of it is sooo overproduced and really generic.

It's not easy to find really amazing, unique people there...Ai Otsuka is interesting...but her voice :no

I never really pursued visual kei either...so I don't know about them. I'm kind of "out" of Rock mode though, so...that's sort of why.


the kpop disregarding here is really interesting. You know, you just have to dig deep enough past the mainstream stuff. There are lots and lots of gems in the Korean pop genre.

but generally, korean music is really similar to japanese, just, they have more bands in the mainstream dedicated to urban stuff...Their indie bands constantly blow me away though. imo, some of the best in the world.

amen to that :yes

mmm, i've never been a fan of girl groups. well, more so the idol-pop & cutesy ones. i just can't get past the whole pure, innocent, bubblegum pop image. like...i feel like the image just overtakes the music far too much with female idol-groups than the male ones.

but there are a couple female groups i like, such as Perfume, MAX, dream, etc. for me, it comes down to style and music. i also tend to like the more mature look.

visual-kei/anything related with it. None of them have good voices nor any kind of style or appeal, imo.

chris brown.

H!P is actually quite versatile with their music... especially compared to other asian idol companies. Well the old H!P was at least but that's another story :p


the live vocals here are perfection





as for artists angela aki rubbed me the wrong way ~_~ YUI too

@emiko: K-indie is love. Much better than kpop imo

@KarenPang: I honestly say its not just their image. I don't understand why many judge them solely on their image.
Its so close-minded and a bit ridiculous

But that may also be why many vke band tone down their image a lot when going more mainstream. But some have an issue of lacking in musical quality when going major. I had this problem with Ayabie. And Alice Nine

But I honestly don't understand vkei hate or so much disrespect for them. As they are talented artists. Some of which with unique voices. And artists who can write incredible amazing lyrics.

Though I understand some people are superficial enough to judge totally on image. I just feel bad cuz by the way they dress they get a bad name.

Vkei like any other genre is about more than what they dress. Some people always say ayu is just known for her style which fans just pay a lot of attention to also. But in the end of the day ayu fans are fans of her music

yeah I'm guilty of that , I'm not going to lie since I can be quick to judge someone based on his/her image on 1st impression

Thankfully in a way or 2 , I'm slowly losing this negative aspect in thinking as it's not healthy

doesn't mean someone looked like a freak , doesn't mean you shouldn't give him/her a chance to listen to their music

it's part of the package to deliver music , be it on the visual or audio side of things

I couldn't got into j-rock so I gave up on it. I like several songs from JE's artists and that's it. Japanese girlgroups completely don't appeal for me (I think I need some recommendations)... I really can't find gems in japanese music which isn't a popular female singer. :laugh I'm more into k-music obviously. Everyone has their own taste.
I try not to completely rule artists out, I even can give one artist one, second, third chance... At least I like one or more songs at last :laugh There are some singers and groups I'll never like though. No matter if they have looks, charisma etc. music stays as the most important.

I stay away from JE acts, but that's about it. I try rock, pop, male, female, groups, R&B, whatever. I just can't do JE, they feel like puppets to me, and I doubt I could enjoy their music for that reason.

^^you should try Perfume and Foxii MisQ :yes the only japanese girlgroups i like :P

i have really really tried to like Gackt, since he;s so damn hot, but his music is just... not my thing XD only song i like is vanilla :lech

I know both of them... I like several songs.

I have the same with Gackt... I like only Vanilla and that other song (Miserable?).

I can't get into boy bands also I refuse to listen to any bubble gum music or
an artist who does too many ballads.

It's just a matter of opinion :yes A lot of people here seem to dislike visual kei and it's not because we're superficial and judging on the image, a lot of the music is just noise to me with annoying vocals.

i will rule them out if they have bad personalities. that's basically the only thing. there's always a chance i could like a song by anyone so i like to keep an open mind, but if there is an artist who makes offensive comments 24/7 i can't let myself support them by listening to their music.

^ I understand where you're coming from

I have this issue with ex KAT-TUN's Akanishi Jin . There's no doubt I still feel he has 1 of the best voices in Johnny's & Associates & I do enjoy the stuff he put out when he was in LANDS mode

but it's his attitude which really annoys me a great deal :eviltongu

it's sad as I used to find him rather hot/good looking & I seen old pics of him where he used to look really good

now meh , he's so >_> & I'm still considering whether to support/listen to his solo works in due time when it's out

maybe I will but I will not focus on his face xD :laugh

Lol its funny because for my friends that don't like rock music at all that's basically what they say. Its just noise and screaming. :). Yeah I think it just takes certain taste to like that kind of music. Vkei and rock in general. And the vocals. And the emotion. I think since I've became an ayu fan I haven't minded anyones vocals much anymore lol. Although I never thought most of their vocalists were so bad (very lovely ones I found over time). XD

Sorry, I get like that sometimes. :yes I just talked to people that dislike vkei not for music but purely their image or just homophobia. And ignorance (ugh).

I try to not rule out anybody.

Sometimes artist just have really bad songs and that's the one you happen to listen to. If I hear a few of their songs and dislike them all, then I usually assume I don't like them. Even so, there are artists I don't like, but they can have one good song (like Eminem).

I posted this in the asian music chat, so I didn't consider any western artist ^^ But I don't listen to rap either, not even Eminem. I just don't like it.

yeah ditto

I'm surprised that a lot of people doesn't like her , like really why ? o_o

my younger sister has listened to YUI for 5 years & counting , since LIFE . Prior to me starting to listen to JPop proper , YUI was 1 of the 1st few artistes I started with , along with the more well known established ones like ayumi & Kumi

LOL haven't you heard? YUI is kicking everyone's ass (Ayu's included) in CDJapan's poll of favorite female artists :laugh So I guess that can be one reason.

I love YUI's voice, it's so cute.
I love most of her songs <3

Like others have said, I try not to, but I just can't get into any hardcore rock artists, or Kpop bands/groups. They just annoy me so much most of the time, mostly because they are so overrated.

YUI just... gets on my nerves so much. :l

For one, she always has this look on her face like "I'D RATHER DIE THAN BE TAKING THIS PICTURE ARWRAWRAR"

And her music bores me to death; every song I've heard by her was dull and they all sounded the same to me. And I really dislike her voice.

Plus, I had a friend who was all like "Ayu SUX YUI is so amazing" and it really fueled my dislike for her. :D

>implying visual kei takes talent
>implying every visual kei artist doesn't sound identical
>implying a huge part of visual kei isn't the visual


Ontopic: Hello!Project, Johnnys, and YUI

MEG and Ken Hirai.

yet you still listen to ayu.

^^
StrawbarisnowAyumi's definition/understanding of vk comes from what she's seen and heard. So... In other words: keep it nice. GRACE.

Oh, and while I love jazz music, I'm not a huge fan of japanese jazz, so I don't listen to that at all either.

It's not my fault her definition was wrong, thats why I was helping her out.

I'm perfectly aware of what vkei is. I'm simply addressing those who judge it completely on image. I never said it wasn't an important facet of the bands. But one can't judge their artistry on that
So I don't see where you find my "definition" (although I didn't even define it) wrong.

Is it...so hard to understand that yes visual-kei does take talent and like anything else there is a large spectrum

And yes every v-kei band does not sound identical which is something I could even show easily. I would think its quite obvious *sighs* :(

Obviously they are (most of them) characterized by an androgynous style (which can differ in style from sub-gend bands). That is the genre. What is to be understood is that if there music still plays a large part in their careers. Vkei fans I'm aware of do not base their fav bands on which looks best. But who has their faorite music.
:) being characterized by something doesn't mean that is all you are

Are you at all a visual-kei fan or somewhat or intensively listen to any variety of the bands?

I used to listen to some visual kei back in the day(A bit of Dir En Grey, bit of AnCafe, there was another band but I stopped caring). But then I began to realize that they all sounded the same, and most of their appeal came from shock value over talent so I stopped.

imo, visual kei bands are like gateway musicians for American weeaboos who want to be "cool and edgy." Like any other phase, they're eventually grown out of.

LEAH DIZON

I have severe irrational hatred for this woman beyond all comprehension.

MEG, some kpop girlbands I can't remember, LM.C and Dir en grey.

It's quite sad because LM.C and Diru were my favourites bands years ago (when I was a huge vkei fan). But I kinda agree with GRACE. 99% of them sounds almost the same and they're more concerned on their images than do good music nowadays. Except for Versailles, they're really talented. I may sound rude, but oh well it's just my opinion right? If some of you likes visual-kei music, it's alright for me ^^; no more drama please.

BTW I won't listen to Diru again because they disappointed me too much lately. I don't know why but they're not Dir en grey anymore. They sounds like a random american rockband now.
LM.C.. meh maybe I followed them just because I had a crush on Maya :roflmao
MEG & kpop girlbands: BOOORING

We could make a club!

I hate to say this, but I know its totally true of myself, I don't listen to singers that I deem ugly or plain. There is nothing worse to me. If I can't stand to look at them, I don't listen to their music. I also pretty much don't listen to any K-Pop, boy bands, visual bands and Namie Amuro. I do like the V-Kei bands SuG, The Kiddie and ViVid, but those are the only bands of the genre I like, and that's because I feel that they have something different about them. And, I also have a few songs by Namie in my collection.

EDIT: Oh, I totally forgot Utada Hikaru. I never like her music.

That's great, but the big diss of an image wasn't :P You could help without throwing that one out there. Although I'll admit Ayu's expression on it made me lol for a good minute or two :thud

I just really want to keep the mood in this thread good. It's that kind of thread that easily get's closed down, because here we are talking about things we dislike, which often goes wrong and down the trashcan...

EDIT:

I've NEVER listened to Leah Dizon. Now the question remains, should I? :P

lol well obviously you don't know YUI that well in the 1st place ~_~ :o

She's camera shy in real life & she said that she doesn't smile as often as she used to , as she has this complex thought in her mind that it = making her face look fat

I have that in me as well

I observe music a lot more deeply than to consider them all sounding the same. Diru, An Cafe, Versailles, Deadman, vistlip., The GazettE, 12012, Megamasso, Miyavi, SuG, Exist Trace, Serial Number, Glacier, Lolita 23q, Nightmare, Vidoll, Danger Gang, LM.C, Malice Mizer, D, etc etc. And the angura-kei MUCC all sound the same?
I definitely never realized this and probably never will. As easch band has its own characteristics etc etc that make them that band

A phase for you. I'm 15. idk what is a phase. I've only been listening to it for yrs. Bands come and go (ayabie). Members die (jasmine you). But this has not ended for me a bit
"American weeabos" makes it hard to take one seriously when they generalize vkei fans like that. Like any other artists I listen to them because I like their music. Their image has had a different personal affect on me.

Honestly considering its "rock" music and bands have a similar structure is the only way I can get that generalization of all bands

On another note. Non vkei rock bands would have to be just as similar sounding. All rock bands really
And if vkei bands are so similar I could honestly just say the kpop and jpop in general.

@koshka: can u really say they are more "concerned" with their image than many other artists? Its not like it really takes sooooo much thought and planning to have their image.
Considering were ayu fans here......anyway its sad u only followed them for your crush and not music. Maya is quite talented imo

@Kanzaki88: I apologize if the mood of the thread is sour. I don't no mean to come off so negatively. I'm in a very neutral mood right now really.
Its tedious discussing vkei in depth (or trying to) but I will reply to something I see if I find it necesary to share my opinion.

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No worries. I'm just paranoid that a big, bad mod will come down and blow down my little straw thread :(

Mostly JE. I just don't get their appeal; especially that of Arashi's music. I actually heard about 3 of their songs and then gave up on them for life. An Cafe, Vidoll and Alice 9 and the like. I flew to LA for Jrock revolution and ran out of the theater when Alice 9 took the stage. Oh and Anna Tsuchiya...my god don't get me started.

But this....


Dir en Grey sounds like An Cafe? Seriously? Did you actually listen to their music or are you just pulling names out of a hat to prove a point?

@Kanzaki88: ill be quite careful. If a mod needs to do cleaning here I request that they close the whole thread. Just what's unecessary.
It is a good thread topic really. :) so no more long replies. Polite and curt ones ill try

@Yumsushi: well there. More consise. I wonder too.

Hopefully I'm not being a shameful vkei fan lol.

well if you like VK bands & are real passionate in listening/supporting them , then sure continue to do so ! I don't find anything wrong if it's something that you enjoy listening to

I do admit that it's 1 genre that I don't plan to venture anytime soon but doesn't mean I don't listen to them , it gives me the right to shoot baseless comments on stuff that're not supported by evidence

she has a few good songs (and by good I mean passable) but imo her voice is pretty bad because she doesn't have a strong live voice or range/pitch. her songs are hit (passable) or miss.

I like alot of stuff that falls under the VK category but I actually don't like the style of dress. for example, I actually thought Dir en Grey's VK era was absolutely ridiculous. I do like what MUCC did, Angura Kei looked pretty cool and was unique. Apparently D'espairs Ray are also VK. I really don't think they fit the bill because they don't wear lipstick and eye patches. So in the end of it all, I don't really care about what category the band falls under so long as the music is good and they're not dressed like fools (to me), lol.

If she's that self-conscious, she shouldn't be a famous singer in the first place. :l

It's all good though, :yes I try to pretend she doesn't exist as much as possible.

I lol'd SO ****ING HARD. Give it a couple a years sweetie, you'll understand what I mean when you exit puberty

~_~

she doesn't want to be famous in the 1st place . She started out as a normal busker in the streets where she played her music while sitting down with her acoustic guitar before being discovered in an audition

you think everyone's able to deal fame & fortune so easily as it might seem ? obviously not

er yeah whatever ~_~

I probably shouldn't visit here anymore , I don't want to argue over trival matters

if she didn't want to be a famous singer she wouldn't be auditioning for a big label like sony in the first place... she can still sing and make music on the street corners if all she wants to do is sing and make music... maybe she wanted the money too

I don't like male artists that much...it's mostly their voices. OF course there are some that I love, but I never go out of my way to discover and listen to them. (So suffice to say I usually stay far away from JE)

I used to always rule out boy bands, girl bands, and k-pop singers. >.< I'm trying hard not to do it anymore though. but I don't think I'll ever accept SNSD, AKB48, and super junior (or in other words, bands with wayyyyyyyyyy too many members). I'm listening to Big Bang, TVXQ, lee hyori, 2NE1 right now, and they all have pretty good music. so I guess I won't rule out k-pop artists/bands as much from now on XD

how could I forget AKB48 and their 'liver! liver!' chant?

I will listen to any Japanese music and give it a try but as far as actually downloading it and listening to it regularly another thing unless I find something I really like that will make me want to hear their other music. However I refuse to listen to any boy bands both in asian and western music with the exception of GReeeeN I kind of like their music but I don't love it or anything.

Overall though I tend to listen to rock music more then pop however if the lyrics are really good then I'm more then willing to give it a try because I'm sick of all the stupid pointless pop songs in the US. Someone brought up rap earlier inthis thread and as far as that goes for western rappers I listen to a few Eminem songs, the only group I can fully listen to from start to end of a rap album is Fort Minor. For Asian rappers I don't really listen to any it just sound kind of different and I can't really tell that it's rap

Visual-Kei is just stuff I can't get into lol. I tend to listen to anything though. Just not them.

Do I rule artists out? No. I don't listen to boybands but I found at least 1 song I even slightly liked when it came to DBSK .

I probably wouldn't like AKB48 and would think all the music they put out is just high pitched and poppy if I hadn't heard songs like Blue rose, Kimi wa Pegasus and Bird etc.

I don't get the too many members argument as you don't have to focus on every person in a group just pick out someone that looks interesting to you. (That and there is a few "guides to AKB" around, but I also don't get this argument when it comes to other groups too)

and I noticed someone mentioned that if YUI didn't want to be famous why did she get a record deal? Maybe because she wanted her lyrics to reach a larger audience?

Anyway so much YUI hate in here, that just gives me a reason to love her more lol Although I don't always like her vocals and personally prefer when it's just her and her guitar...

but back on topic no I don't rule anyone out because that just limiting and you could find a song you like.

THIS :yes

I admit I always rule things in the beginning. I ruled JPop Groups and KPop music in the past, I dunno why but I guess they seem never interest me.

But my friend gave me some NewS mp3s, I listen to it and some of it are interesting, so I open my door wider for them. And that's the only JE boys I've ever listened to. While I never have any interest nor intending to listen to Jpop Girl Groups such as AKB48, Momusu etc I dunno my inner-self says I shouldn't :innocent :roflmao

After my sister hooked on KPop, the virus spreaded to me and I became more open to KPop ever since, still I mind some of the groups there especially the rookies :p

Yeah, ikr. I love their indie groups, they are so simple, mindblowing and epic. Not to mention most of them are quiet easy-listening imo :yes

The only thing I'm confused with is that I can't stand YUI...and I don't know why,, I just have this hate with her, although I know why she doesn't smile or etc but I just simply dislike her...like some people here LOL

Sorry but I don't think my mind operates in the same way as yours, hun. And that I'm not following things as a trend.
But its okay. :) but wait are u an adult?

lol, sure. and when you become an adult, like I am, you'll see my point.

I now officially rule out every little thing...I tried listening to their discography last night, and I just did not like it at all...

@GRACE You're 19 :/ Guys aren't through puberty until they're 46. True story :P

Um, what? That makes no sense at all. If she didn't want to be famous, why would she go to an audition and then sign a contract and release music? That'd be like saying "I'm really scared of flying so I'm going to an interview for a flight attendant position!" It makes absolutely no sense.

You really don't need to get so uptight just because I dislike someone you like. It's not like I frequent the YUI thread and talk about how much I hate her there. :/ After all, this is the thread for artists you don't like. :D

lol where did you learn about puberty? I think your education system failed you :yes

@Kanzaki: lol most peoples brains don't even fully develop until their mid twenties. ...puberty? 46? Interesting lol

When u said "every liittle thing" I though u meant u were ruling out every artists lol. Have u tried Sakurabito. That's like the one song I recall really liking from them.
I don't even remember her name. The girl. But I so love her voice even if I don't love them

@GRACE: Nothing is so concrete (I can't tell u can't either). But I'm sure ur a genius who knows me in and out. ^__~

Same place where I learned sarcasm.

This isn't related to asian stuff but... Disney stars... Nuff said. :yes

Agreed. They just don't do anything for me.

Japanese boybands are pretty much my least favorite type of music besides musicals and The Beatles. Arashi, News, KAT-TUN...any of those are just the worst if you ask me. Visual Kei is also really bad. Not only the style of their clothes or whatever, but the music itself is totally unlistenable.

I also agree with the person who said they don't like YUI. I just find her voice so annoying, and a lot of her songs really do sound the same to me. I do sort of like one song of hers (Goodbye days), but only because it was playing all the time when I was in Japan, so it's nostalgic for me.

I'm surprised so many people here can't stand K-Pop. It's been so much better than J-Pop for the past year or two.

^ how is that surprising? 90% of the mainstream artists over there are idols and if girl/boy groups aren't your thing then you're screwed. Once you take away the idols they really have nothing special to offer that you can't already find in America, Japan and Europe.

I also agree on this :)

But I've learned my lesson from ruling out entire genres. I never do that now. I think I've discovered something amazing and original within every genre. Even in asian music ;)

Well considering most people on this board like pop (they do like Ayu), I thought more would like it. What do you mean by "idols" though? Isn't that a Japanese thing?

Hmm, with everyone talking about YUI, I guess I rule her out too. I listened to a few of her songs and I didn't like them. Haven't bothered to listen to her since. But, I consider her one of those plain artists I don't like. I'm not really into the whole "just a guitar and singing" thing, you know? I like things to be grand and fabulous.

Nana Kitade - What is that voice? She sounds like a sheep.
Mika Nakashima - BORING. I'm sorry, could never get into her other than Glamorous Sky (which was composed by HYDE anyways) and Legend. Zzzz...
Aya Kamiki - one of the most gorgeous girls in the whole jmusic industry, but her music is AWFUL.
Berryz Kobou/C-ute - Yeah, I like H!P stuff (Morning Musume) but I could never get into Hello!Project Kids.
Ai Otsuka - I admit I like maybe 3-4 songs of hers; recently tried to listen to all of her albums and I just don't get it. Alot of her music sounds like stuff UNDER17 used to release.
Johnny's groups - Their music... it just doesn't appeal to me

I used to hate visual kei bands, but then I heard the GazettE's Filth in the Beauty and the rest is history XD I only like the GazettE and Shinkou Shuukyou Gakudan NoGod. I do agree, though, that alot of vkei bands sound the same, especially the singers.

As a Leah Dizon fan, I'm biased in saying yes but if you don't expect her to be a vocal maven and understand she is a pop singer firstly, then yeah.

Visual Kei. A BIG reason I stray away from it is there's this voice type that's heavily popular amongst male singers and when you're listening to several bands back to back, it gets hard distinguish just exactly who is singing, even what band. Though I must say there are bands that do have a sound of their own within Visual Kei.

Idol groups. I find the whole 'pure' image to be discomforting and overtakes what can be a good pop song. Like when I think of Morning Musume., I always picture the girls all overly smiley, acting cute, and being jailbait that I can't separate the image from the songs.

4minute... :no Just never. How jbrat feels for Leah, I feel for them.

Uhmm pretty much every boy band out there (Specially korean ones). I like male singers, but not the cheesy overdone backstreets boys image... At least the real backstreets boys had memorable and awesome songs back in the days lol


Girl bands or girl groups too... They're so forgettable to me, and cheesy once again.







LOL I love you for these :luv2:laugh

well, maybe Linkin Park and those heavy metal bands... :(
they're too noisy...

even GACKT! gosh~ he's so disgus**ng... =='

While I *try* to never completely rule out any artist/genre there are a few that I'm not too optimistic about ever getting into...

- It's hard to get into male artists and boybands because I'm not into the whole "boys who cry" thing.
- I don't like idol groups because I find their overwhelmingly cutesy images regressive and pandering to an outdated social standard.
- I don't see the point of listening to rock bands and singer-songwriters because a lot of them just sound like Western music and if I'm going to listen to something like that, I'd rather be able to understand the lyrics.

lol you clearly havent listened to lotsa kpop. i agree, some artists really are westernized, but the same goes for jpop..
the mainsong is almost always catchy and fun and doesnt showcase their talent. they do that so that they gain fans, cuz THIS is whats popular in korea. if you listen to their whole mini or album you hear some pretty amazing songs.
also Lee Jung Hyun is one of the most original artists i have ever seen. yes, even more original than gaga

Yeah, sometimes when I have a big dislike for the artist for something they did or their fanbase, I tend to rule they out...

Mika Nakashima is a good example... Annoying fanbase when she was at her peak

@Andrenekoi Hm, did Mika have an annoying fanbase? Do you have a specific example of what might have put you off her music, because of her fans? I'm not a fan of hers, but I'm interested in what that might be.

@SURREAL_RAINBOW lol! Glad to be of comedy service.

For the most part I rule out artists that don't have any input in their music, like composition or lyrics (special exception: Morning Musume). So boy bands, girl bands, pop stars like boa, etc, are out.

I can't listen to Japanese male artists at all. Their singing voices sound so.. goofy somehow. I can't get past it.

For the most part, I would agree with you... But Koshi Inaba has something that no other Japanese male vocalist have and that is a unqiue sound (and range)! :luv2 But for the most part, I tend to avoid male vocalist because they sound alike! :\

A lot of J-Rock. GACKT? No thanks. I still affirm that he sounds like a sports announcer.

I think some of it is also an acquired taste though, especially idols. I would have laughed if you told me I'd listen to JE & H!P a couple years ago..yet here currently I sit with a Sayu set. xD

Yeah, a mumbling sports announcer! lol He so soft spoken that nobody understands him! :laugh I think he's more like a voice-over you'd hear on a commerical! :D

I also rule out artists that have a constant instrument in their music. Like Angela Aki

"Hi. I'm Angela Aki. I know how to play the piano, so every song I have will feature a piano, every live performance of mine will feature me playing the piano, and every single/album cover will have something to do with me and my piano."

Yes, yes. We get it. You can play the piano. Stop shoving it down our throats in every song of yours. Same with Miyavi. "Hi. I'm Miyavi, I can play guitar." The rest is history.

Well, there are some genres that I avoid completly (like visual-kei) but most of the time, when I try to rule out a specific artist I end up regretting it :laugh

not trying to say that you're wrong or anything
Oh I used to do that too, my Jpop had so much diversity and great artists already and I thought it's totally satisfying, then I discovered SHINee and Girls' Generation :heart I've been more open to kpop idols since then, a lot of them are very talented, but the songs they're given to promote don't show that at all =( (except Miss A, zero auto-tune in their title songs <3) .. I really regret not discovering them before.


For me now, I avoid Jpop idol groups, Kpop idols made them look bad in my eyes (excpet NEWS, and I try squeeze some Arashi in my iPod) and Kpop solo artists since most of them release something once every 2 years, and I'm spoiled by Ayu and other Jpop solo acts who release singles regulary

I might (again) regret some decisions later, but I'm comfortable with the way my music library looks now :yes

I don't have a very versatile taste in music. I hate all kinds of rap, hiphop and heavy metal. I also have no kind of interest in r'n'b, though who knows, I could like it. And from the spectrum of pop and rock, I tend to avoid girl groups (as many have said, no interest in the hyper-actively cute image), boy bands (just... no) and male artists (no offense against them, but I just really prefer female voices).

Other than that, I try not to rule out anything until I've heard a sufficient amount. Some artists I've come to dislike despite trying: Mika Nakashima, Aira Mitsuki, Ai Otsuka and HIGH and MIGHTY COLOR.

Utada Hikaru, BoA, rap, hip-hop is not my music style :P
that's why I tried to get a admin to change my username, cause dont like Utada Hikaru anymore -.- she's was good before but not anymore it's same with BoA...

^:laugh I think it's the same with me and my love for Aya Kamiki. :P

lol that sucks that you're stuck with Utadayumi! I dunno what I'd do if I started hating Kuu (which would be impossible) but I've used all my name changes so I'm stuck as ero-kakkoii forever.

OMG HOW COULD I FORGET KALAFINA AND HINOI TEAM!!!!!! you should definatly check these two out :yes :yes kalafina's work is just gooooorgeoussss! though i wouldnt really call them a 'girlgroup' since they are all mature woman :P and their voices are so gospel heavenly-like its just wow :luv2

also these 2 songs are really awesome as well:
this is the only Bright song i like though :(


and this is the only song gyaruru has :P

oh yeah, so many, on jpop scene people I wont ever give another chance would be koda kumi, namie amuro, utada hikaru, ai otsuka, boybands (koreans as well), girlbands and rockbands... oh so many, im very picky

Now I really realize how much I hate most Korean boy bands, especially because they all seem so fake, superficial and all around boring.

And also because my friends won't shut up about them, and then make fun of my musical tastes.