COUNTDOWN LIVE 2010-2011 A ~do it again~ Live Broadcast
 

CDL will be broadcasted online!!! :D :D :D

Suka Channel:


UStream:


How to buy tickets from UStream:

I think it's normal to pay as the CDL is broadcast on a paying channel....
I'll wait a DL link.

It's quite meaningless for us >_>

... :no

haha...well...i guess lesser people will have to stand outside the stadium now
i really love their spirit!

an antena? that's not for us... I hope what Ayu said doesn't mean that...

it would be cool if someone could link this stream with a ustream stream and we could all watch it...

IIRC, this is the usual broadcast satellite channel that we don't usually have access to. I think it was previously reported by AyUmIxX at the Ayu's Story blog a few weeks ago. I wonder why TeamAyu put it up now and not then? [http://ayusstory.blogspot.com/2010/1...countdown.html]

Sukachan is just a name for the SkyPerfecTV's TV guide-type thing. I think they've been airing CDL live since it started, actually... but we still don't have an online one! I wonder if Kome is still trying, haha.

I was hoping it would be international....

maybe this...

and this...

Maybe means... "wait cause there'll be good news (^_−)−☆" ??? xddd

I think it's normal you have to pay to see it ... you buy tickets for the concert, so why would you pay for them if you can watch it for free somewhere else? (don't say "it's not the same, I know that ... just try to see the logic in it...)

I thought she did a hikki free broadcast online but nooooo pfft

I was so excited to see ayu in live *sigh*

Aw, I was excited for a few seconds there. What a letdown.

don't give up yet~ we can be disappointed dec. 30th & 31st if it's not airing! not now!

^^I agree.

Well, it's the normal broadcast method for CDL. Sometimes programs on this channel are pay-per-view but I think Ayu's concert comes with the channel when you subscribe to the satellite service.

We usually get to see it a while after it airs in Japan anyway! I think in recent years we've gotten it even the day after it airs in Japan.

Wow, that's completely non-consequential to me. Guess we'll have to wait for the TV broadcast. =/

Maybe Ayu has something up her sleeve... just maybe.

OMG this is great

Utada Hikaru did this specially for her international fans with her concert on Dec. 8th. via Ustream.
was kinda really hoping that maybe, just maybe Ayu would do something like this too.

Well just wait and see i guess, maybe something will still change before the 30th

live and free, or I rather wait for the DVD :no

thanks for the info!

Well that means that someone awesome will record it. :D

When AHS crashes the video is probably up...

I'd be happy to pay for it if not for 2 things...

1) I'm at a party on NYE and can't watch the Dec 31 broadcast but could do for the 30th!

2) I don't know how to get to the purchase screen, nor what to do after xD Hopefully before CDL 2011-2012 they can get an English site up for purchasing! <3 and a Dec 30 broadcast too?

I'm super jealous of those who can view it though!!

I feel raped. DDDD:

*sadface* I was hoping for a Ustream

No, you most definitely do not.

Awwww :(

Not to mention it went really well, so many fans tuned in. I was hoping that it would get the attention of Ayu's people. And that little winky face she made when someone asked about a stream gives me hope :D

So it will air on USTREAM:

http://avexnet.or.jp/ayu/cdl2010-2011/en/

Without an encore.

The nerve, they actually want people to pay for that as well >_> Why can't avex be more like EMI.

i rather wait another 24 hours to get the HD quality from internet >.<

I lol'd SO HARD at their price to view it.. THEY WOULD.

Lol I will just save my $30 and just buy the TW press DVD :laugh

so,TA can buy the ticket at a cheaper price : 2,625円（税込） XD
http://avexnet.or.jp/ayu/cdl2010-2011/

Exactly 3.150 yen is almost $40 what were they thinking really? They are really desperately trying to earn the money on every single thing, as while they do have the right to charge for everything, I don't think that many people will actually be willing to pay for this when it comes to Overseas fans as we'll get the rip in the matter of hours and since it's not even a LIVE broadcast why bother?

I saw USTREAM and I got excited. Then, I saw the price and I got meh. >:( Not live, and without encore? Whaaaaatttt. Maybe if the price was lower, like $10, I would've considered it but this is such a rip-off. C'mon, Avex.

Lol laaaame. I'd think it's because TV viewers have to pay for the channel to view the CDL though, therefore trying to make it fair for everyone. But the wtf part is that it's not even live when we view it online lol.

exactly!it was delayed for at least 2 hours and still charging such sky high price =.="

but but but they're giving you an exclusive wallpaper with your ticket!! :rolleyes

I can understand why her management would be hesitant to broadcast something for free when there's so much value attached to the tickets themselves, but come on... This is like how they only have ~short versions~ of the PVs on the Youtube account. People who care enough to see the video ~to the end~ already bought the album. People who care enough to want to see the concert in all its HD glory already purchased tickets/premium satellite service. Crappy streaming video for free isn't going to cut into those sales. It might help sell the Ayu brand to new people internationally, however.

^ I think the only people who would pay for those tickets would be people that are already fans of Ayu~

If someone told me a big star I've never heard of is having a concert and I have to pay to watch it online...well I wouldn't pay X_X

Wow, I really didn't expect them to charge, not after Utada's WILD LIFE was streamed via Ustream for free. Or maybe, because that was so successful in views, avex saw it as being lucrative. Oh well, I was hoping for free, but I guess I'll just wait for a rip.

Exactly. Hence why they should just make it free. :)

If it was $10 I'd pay just to show Avex that there's a fan here in Australia who'd really like to see her albums on the shelves here :P

But not for $40. Sorry, I'll just wait for the DVD or a TV version :( So close, yet so far!!!

I think I feel that Ayu is overrated because of this...

Erm...I don't think that it's Ayu's fault. Avex is playing dirty once again...:no


I thought about buying a ticket for a moment, but then I read that it's not actually a "live stream", because it's says under "Caution":

•This is not a live broadcast. The recorded video of the performance on December 31st will be broadcasted.

I will wait for the DVD!!

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It's official and it will be aired live on Ustream!!

If i get it correctly it starts on 9 PM Japan's time (it says something about 3 hours before 1st Jan).

it will broadcast on ustream on 3am Japan Time.so,its not live broadcast

午前3:00 = 3:00am

Those are the opening hrs.

U know guys... Ayu doesn't produce music and performs cuz she loves humanity or wanna make the world a better place... it actually is her job =) It's where her money comes from...

Maybe u didn't know, so, just saying...

I think it might be because this is really last minute? I remember for Utada's concert, it was planned months in advance to be broadcast for free, but the Ayu concert is in like a week.

i'm happy coz overseas fans can watch it like few hours after the actual show..
but it's sad that we have to pay... if my internet connection is fast enough, i think i'm willing to pay.. but my internet *******s T__T so i can't..

Theres more info via her twitter in english. I dont have fast internet so i'm out.

Why would it be last minute mean that we have to pay? It's not like they just decided this a week before, someone asked Ayu on twitter weeks ago and she said Kome was working on it.

Exactly. In fact it was easier for them not to make us pay, as they had to look for a way to charge us ^^ There is really no excuse and while I'm aware that they aren't working for charity, they should also be aware that this isn't the way you're doing someone a favor, we'll just end up downloading it in the end :rolleyes as for almost $40 we can buy the actual DVD >_> and that's almost the price of an average concert ticket, so no matter how you look at it, it's too much for a streaming without an encore that's not even live.

^ AGREED!!

could be that avex is a the money sucker hahaha XDDD

I got up outta bed cause my phone kept vibrating with her twitter posts so I decided to check them to get rid of the damn noise and got all excited about being able to watch CDL, so I hopped onto my netbook to see more info.

Alas, fairly disappointed by this: no encore and it's not live and they're charging. :no I understand it's her job and all, but wouldn't common sense tell avex that we'd end up downloading it anyways if they charge. :grumpy

IMO,if we need to pay for it,we should watch it ON THE SAME TIME with the japanese.i don't see the need to pay for the 'delayed' live broadcast.furthermore it has no encore.just ignore how long did hikki spend to plan all these ustream stuff.
they mention this is for international fans too but it sound like abit insincere,IMO.if you want us to pay,why not broadcast it on the same time with the paid channel?what makes them different since WE do pay for the ustream also.

I got so excited at first, until I realized that you would have to pay...and no encore? Geez, Avex, thanks a lot. I really have nothing more to say, because you guys already said it. Oh well, I'll just spend my New Year with Kathy Griffin and Anderson Cooper. :)

^ kinda agree with that..
it's either pay but we could watch it live, and free if we have to watch it later than the original time..

sigh~ avex oh avex~~

It's probably because people may have already purchased the TV channel that will air the broadcast, and if all of a sudden they made it free online, whether it's live or not, some people might get angry?

Probably. They also probably aren't allowed to broadcast it for free while also having the live broadcast on SkyPerfecTV. It's either one or the other, I guess, and the TV one wins because it gets them more money than if they did it for free.

I mean, they're recording on the 31st for the people watching at home, for the DVD, and now for USTREAM. [probably using the TV footage, but still] I do wonder how many people will buy the tickets to watch it after the show has ended.

This sort of thing takes time (planning) and money to pull off. The tickets for CDL cost almost three times as much as the price they're asking for.

IMO, there's no reason for the attitude of "I'm going to download this anyway" when they've worked hard to try and get a stream up after having people request it. Yes, you can and will probably download it for free, but so what?

well,i think if they reduce the fee,the problem might solved.3000yen might be very small in Japan,but in some other countries like my country,3000yen is my 1-2weeks lunch @@
of course they didn't force me to buy the ticket,but sometimes,as an ayu fans,we feel like want to support her by purchase her stuff etc,but feel like its not worth because we will get the download links in 24hours after the concert.so,it end up that the fans is frustrated since they will not broadcast the encore;it will broadcast 3 hours later;it is expensive.
hope that my post is not annoying and irritates anyone here

Well, I told my mom about it, and we're going to pay to watch. <3 So excited!!

^ wow ur so lucky..and u have fast internet connection is it?

We have the fastest dsl our provider sells...I'll still check it out.

Btw, I may be lacking brain cells, but where is the DEMO video mentioned here? o.O It can't be the YT vid... Oh...the inquiry page. Dear Avex, please translate it all into English. x_x

Edit: Ah...maybe because the tickets aren't even for sale yet. Durrr...

I share your opinion! :cool

Nothing, when you try to charge someone for something like that you don't make it seem like you're doing them a favor... All I am saying is that they shouldn've bothered at all, considering that when people requested a live streaming I am sure they didn't have this in mind ^^ And thanks for all their hard work, but they are getting paid after all, so who cares if they worked hard or not, it's their job.

And I meant the average concert not average Ayu concert ^^ For $40 you can see many other people LIVE. It's over-priced regardless of all that. What tokyoxjapanxfan makes sense though.

So true. I for one think that they're probably going to do this uStream thing once, and never again. Why? Because 100+ people pester ayu and Max non-stop on Twitter about it, and when they realize they won't be getting it for free, noone uses the service. Sort of ungrateful, if you ask me.

Yeah $40 may be a tad expensive, but CDL is a very big deal afterall, people literally pay thousands to buy tickets to watch it live. I spent $600 last year just to get a STAND seat, not even ARENA.

Not to be rude, but people are asking too much, seriously. Yes, avex is a money-sucking machine, we knew that years ago, so get over it. You love ayu, fork out the money. You don't have the money, wait patiently for uploads. That's reality. It's just so unfair to the poor girl, she works her butt off for us and we want everything served to us on a silver platter, and still we nitpick and complain about every single little thing. Really pisses me off sometimes.

That's beyond the point. If EMI can do it, I am sure avex can do it too if they wanted ;) It doesn't matter though. As I said, when people asked for it, I am sure they had in mind the same thing Hikki's team did for her concert and not this. And they shouldn't pay just so it seems they're grateful, as no one is doing them any sort of favor :thud Also you can hardly pity someone who loves their work so much and I love Ayu to death, but I don't think people should take pity on her, as she is doing it for herself first and then for everyone else. That's reality as well.

IMO, it seems silly to expect such things to be free. Just because some other artist did it once, it doesn't mean Ayu/Avex has to do it too. Not that it wouldn't be nice, but considering, as Misa-chan pointed out, how expensive it is and how Avex loves money, did you really expect any different? :no TANSTAAFL

I think it should be free. First off, the tickets are overpriced. But it's the J-Pop Queen the fans are paying to see but it's also the experience. The experience of being not that far away from your idol, the experience of seeing all the special effects live, and the experience of hearing Ayu live in a stadium/arena.

Fans like me who can't afford to even by an album won't be able to dish out the money to have the experience. If I had the chance to watch CDL on the internet without a fee, I would be extremely happy. I wouldn't ask for anything more. But even though I would be watching on the internet at my home, I would be sad I wasn't there to experience it first hand like other fans are. So in the end, the people who are paying the money are not getting ripped off because it's streaming online for free.

And this isn't me being a selfish fan. This is me saying to other fans that there is no reason why streaming it live is a bad idea. CDL tickets will still sell out and fans will still purchase the DVD or download it illegally.

I think that they probably did the math with a free (but incomplete without an encore like now) broadcast vs. what they ended up with and probably figured that the latter was more profitable and made more sense to them from a business point of view.

IDEALLY, yes, a free broadcast would be best for everyone a la Utada's concert and Do As Infinity's CDL which will be broadcast on Nico Nico Douga without a fee, but there's probably some reason for charging customers for viewing the concert. What the reason is, I don't know, but I'm sure that it's a good one.

The demo video seems to be linked to here, but there are no clickable links yet
http://avexnet.or.jp/ayu/cdl2010-2011/

IMO, people shouldn't complain since they were probably going to download the CDL ripped from the SkyPerfecTV broadcast anyway. It's terrible to say "Oh, you want me to pay that much? Never mind even though we begged for this. Downloading the concert illegally anyway!" when they (Kome) probably pulled a ton of strings to make the stream possible. Maybe next time it'll be available without a charge... or maybe even parts of AT10 will be online for free? But for now, this is what we have and it's a pretty good deal, I think. Kudos to anyone who will be watching the USTREAM live~ I hope it turns out well! I'll be around trying to get a setlist on the 29th/30th~

lol They're going to show music videos for two hours before the broadcast? Interesting.

Just because EMI did it doesn't mean every other company who does UStream will have to follow. The fact is that avex chose not to screen it free, and there's nothing we can do about it. Yea, people had Hikki's thing in mind when they asked for ayu to do UStream, they also assumed that it'll be free, which as most people who know avex will tell them, it's just wishful thinking.

I'm not saying the people who asked for this need to pay just to seem grateful. I'm saying it's ungrateful that the same people who asked and who doubtless caused much trouble for ayu and her team just to cater to them are the same ones complaining now because they assumed it would be free and are pissed off because it isn't, and will probably not bother paying for it. Nobody bothered asking if the service could be provided free, everyone just assumed it will be. This whole thing is going to fail spectacularly because of that one hopeful assumption, and I find it just sad.

Anyway, ayu doesn't need pity. It's just such a shameful waste that her efforts to please her fans just earn her more criticism. She could have just ignored all those requests for UStream, but she didn't. She's wonderful like that, and it's horrible how some people never seem to realize that.

Yeah, it's basically the same as the TV broadcast. I guess they're going to be airing a preempted-for-a-few-hours version of the SkyPerfecTV broadcast that generally has PVs playing and audience shots before the concert starts.

I wonder just how "good" your connection has to be for this... doesn't seem like anyone with DSL or higher should have issues though.

You know it, some ppl always find something to complain, they all want everything for free.
I personally won´t watch the stream, for me personally it´s too much money and my net is too unstable atm. I will just wait for the broadcast + the DVD (I´ll buy the DVD anyways, so I think there is nothing wrong downloading the TV Version^^)

IMO, it's a miracle that they managed to put this entire thing together despite not really being planned initially.

See, I usually watch this kind of thing once and then never again...so this is great. It's cheaper than the dvd, and I don't have to download a torrent. *shrug*

I wasn't really criticizing her ^^ she does what she can. It's avex's call in the end. I do agree that it's sad the whole thing will fail, I guess in the end it all will seem as a big misunderstanding and I am just afraid that in the future they will think twice before doing stuff for international fans.

I think that the Japanese users who generally want to see CDL might jump at this opportunity. Not many overseas fans will probably do this, but I think that there will be quite a few out there paying for the stream despite this initial "What? This isn't free?" reaction.

If TV version is paied, they can't just put it for free on the internet... they would be screwing it up with themselves and with the agreement they have with that TV channel...

It's the same thing as Ayu putting her album to download while it can be downloaded on mp3 services... She can't make something that will start an unfair competition with her own business...

It's not necessarily the case, I think. I mean all of her PVs are on sale in some way, shape, or form and every single one of them was put up in their entirety on YouTube at some point in late 2009 before being taken down.

That was before they started the whole short ver. thingy >_> While they do that for some other artists like AAA, the majority of other avex artists have their full PVs up, but I guess they still air the full versions on TV later. I think that it is because Ayu's PV tend to at least chart really well on iTunes and Recochoku in their respective categories.

I agree, hopefully there will be enough people from Japan tuning in to the broadcast to make up for the lack of OS fans.

But PVs are for promotional reasons... "promotional videos"...

i think the real problem with the broadcast is that its not LIVE. if it were live i think more fans would be willing to pay money to see it. :shrug

^ yeaa, i think it's true, if it's LIVE, fans would be willing to pay..coz we can enjoy the countdown at the exact same time with everyone in Japan and with Ayu..
but if it's played 3 hours after it's just weird...

I think there was probably an issue with streaming the concert along with showing it live on TV. Otherwise, it most likely would have been live.

I know right. :( Sometimes I feel we are demanding so much from her, but not as willing to give anything back unless every single thing is done to our liking (like the "I must have awesome covers and no fish lips anywhere and no interludes and not so many ballads and very cheap price and good free gifts or else I will just illegally download this album muaha" kinda thing). Hope this doesn't spoil avex's image of us on Twitter, they could very well ask her not to take anymore so-called "random" suggestions from fans, and that would suck, because good things still come out of that ie ayutrance 4.

Lol actually if I had to choose I would pick the later timing. That TV channel shows it live, true, but the editing is also really really bad. Just watch last year's CDL TV version. Her voice was actually pretty alright when I was there live, but she sounded darn atrocious on the TV version, I can't even bear listening to it. Not sure what they did (or didn't do), but I hope they don't do it again this year. :shakehead

I kind of feel like the online streaming will be of the TV version anyway since it'll mean that they can just use footage they've already broadcast/filmed for the TV... and I think last year was a terrible mixing board job or something. It was just like... what the heck happened?!

If the Japanese pay to see it live at the concert or on TV, I don't see why any foreign fan with a brain would think Avex wouldn't charge us as well just because Utada didn't. And yes, it takes time to pull strings to get a free concert because SOMEONE has to pay for it regardless. And I think within such a short time this is the best they could do. Stop looking to other artists as an example of what Ayu should do.

Utada is going on hiatus, she won't be back for a while, she's performed and released albums abroad (in English no less) and she had plenty of time to make a free stream happen so it would make sense for her to have it for her international fans. That doesn't mean Ayu/Avex should snap their fingers for their over-demanding international fans within weeks time to make everyone's wishes come true for free. (Yes, we can be demanding and you know it. We may not express it to them all the time but all the *****ing around here is enough to show how demanding we truly are).

I can agree with this, the show should at least be live. But since they didn't have a lot of time to put it together I don't think it's that big of a deal. If they know that this method is popular and Ayu's CDL's are in high demand overseas they'll make an effort to stream it live! :yes

I agree, I hope the selfishness of a few doesn't ruin opportunities for all in the future! :no Twitter has opened doors for us and if fans aren't careful those doors will shut back up again. -____-; Even worse, Avex may think foreign fans aren't worth the time because we're not willing to pay for what we ask for. I'm not saying we should all shove out the cash over every little thing but at the same time, when you ask for something be ready to pay for it one way or another. Nothing in life is free, especially with Avex xD;

To be honest, I think rather than time, Utada's free concert was partially thanks to her and daddy's (Teruzane's) wallets... it's one thing to be a successful artist with money, but I think it's another thing to have two hugely successful parents as well. As far as I know, he's the one who has been answering a ton of fan questions on Twitter regarding Utada's career and the material behind it as opposed to Utada herself. (which is kind of... odd imo)

Ah! I see... So it wasn't even her record company lol. No wonder xD;

I don't know for sure if it was EMI or her parents solely or anything, but it's been weird to me that Teruzane's been the one to answer all questions regarding when a DVD/footage will come out for some world tour or information about the different concerts and not Utada. Originally (according to him), the plan was to have a ton of small concerts in halls or something but it was way too late to do something like that so they decided on the two days at Yokohama AND the cinema screening AND the online streaming. Just speculation on my part, haha.

Either way it worked out nicely for them xD; Ayu should dump Mannie and get a rich sugar daddy! :roflmao

First post updated with instructions on how to buy UStream tickets!! :D

LOL, I'll never understand people like that. I've been pre-ordering Ayu's albums since Secret (or was it GUILTY) and have never canceled my order because of the covers or the number of interludes :dead2 And I pray I don't get any gifts cuz I don't wanna pay the customs/taxes :innocent but yeah I get what you're saying. If I was earning more atm I'd prolly pay for the stream just to support the cause (or if it was cheaper), but this way there isn't much I can do, bu wait for the TV ver. to be uploaded.

Thank you Misa-chan!! I bought my ticket.
I figure that if avex really sees an international interest in things they this, they will give us more options. Maybe an actual live show next time? Or something like that.
It could just be a waste of money, but I really want to support Ayu. Didn't we beg her for a Ustream show, and now we don't want it because it's not free and not live? I'm sure avex pulled a lot of strings for this to happen, and I want to make sure it's at least somewhat successful, so they won't feel like they're wasting time for Ayu fans.
Now I just need to figure out exactly what time it will air for me. If I'm in California, would it be 10:00am on New Years Eve? I'm not positive.

Edit: Never mind, got the time! Here's a really handy time converter: http://www.worldtimeserver.com/conve...1&d=1&h=3&mn=0

Thanks Misa-chan! I think I'm going to purchase a ticket, too. :)

If only all the pages were in English...oh well. XD Thanks, Misa!